chunsh

叫佢做警犬就褒獎咗佢，侮辱咗天下狗隻。

咁"鳩嗚"倒亂人地鋪頭嗰班呢？

ecwkwok

咁"鳩嗚"倒亂人地鋪頭嗰班呢？
chunsh 發表於 2014-12-6 02:24

如果你認為阻人做生意比執法人員故意攻擊女性胸部嘅罪行嚴重嘅話，我無野講。你認為鳩烏唔啱嘅，你咪開個帖少佢LOR，但咁係改變唔都香港警隊裡面係有無視法紀嘅仆街呢件事實㗎。

講起鳩烏，你咪睇吓究竟係示威者衝出馬路，定係比黑警拉出馬路？

ecwkwok

最近認識一個名詞「犬儒者」：

「他們生活在一個足以自我說服的環境之中，然後充耳不閒，卻自認知道事情的真相。政府的不公不義，他們看不見、議會的變態失衡，他們不清楚、警察濫權失去理性，他們視之為正常。這個城市經歷了這麼多事，也不足以引發他們思考問題所在，只是見到表面的報導便站在「繁榮安定」的高山上大聲責罵，卻不理解這是假象，空洞而無力。他們去接受，擁抱這現實，卻在不知不覺間對這現實妥協，低頭。」

以上轉載自「城市漫步者」。

chunsh

如果你認為阻人做生意比執法人員故意攻擊女性胸部嘅罪行嚴重嘅話，我無野講。你認為鳩烏唔啱嘅，你咪開個 ...
ecwkwok 發表於 2014-12-6 02:54

I didnt say 阻人做生意比執法人員故意攻擊女性胸部嘅罪行嚴重, dont put words in my mouth. I said both cases should be treated seriously. That is not simply
阻人做生意, but also some sort of harassment to the people who work on that shop.


你咪試吓對vancouver police or RCMP做同樣既野，睇吓香港警打得你傷o的定係呢度o的警察打／電得你傷o的
First, that black jacket guy was 挑釁警察 and try to creating 群眾情緒
second, watch this video from MingPao (starting from like 3:00), there is second viewing angle (recorded by one person in the crowd). The green t-shirt guy DID rush to the police and rush to the road and try to prevent his friend being arrested. Again, doing this in North America will cause you being beaten or tased

http://news.mingpao.com/ins/%E3%80%90%E5%90%88%E4%BD%B5%E5%BD%B1%E7%89%87-%E9%80%A3%E7%92%B0%E5%9C%96%E3%80%91%E6%97%BA%E8%A7%92%E7%94%B7%E9%80%94%E4%BA%BA%EF%BC%9A%E3%80%8C%E8%A1%8C%E7%B7%8A%E5%95%A6%EF%BC%81%E4%B8%8D%E8%A6%81%E6%8E%A8%E5%95%A6%EF%BC%81%E3%80%8D%20%E6%B6%89%E8%A5%B2%E8%AD%A6%E5%BE%9E%E8%A1%8C%E4%BA%BA%E8%B7%AF%E8%A2%AB%E6%89%AF%E5%87%BA%E6%8B%98%E6%8D%95/web_tc/article/20141206/s00001/1417877545389

chunsh

最近認識一個名詞「犬儒者」：

「他們生活在一個足以自我說服的環境之中，然後充耳不閒，卻自認知道事情的 ...
ecwkwok 發表於 2014-12-6 06:34

That, still a choice of those people, just like people chose to believe different religions, and in society that is matured to embraced democracy, opinions and choices from different people should be respected, as long as not breaking the law, no matter how stupid are those people in your point of view.

If people don't learn how to respect different opinions, they are not suitable for democracy

satil

實在無乜所謂，不同人的基本價值觀，就採用不同的所謂證據來支持。

啱㗎，連沒有實質驗證的宗教，UP吓都有人死心塌地去信，還有甚麼事，沒有兩極的取向？！

近日都同好多人拗過。

結果都係＂私利＂與＂公利＂價值觀的分別，又或者係對一些似是而非的定義誤解，如＂法治＂＂暴徒＂。
都好，可以看清一些人。

ecwkwok

同意「可以看清一些人」。

退一步來講，其實世事無所謂真正「對」與「錯」，只有唔同時間唔同觀點嘅成功與失敗。今日你成功捍衛你面前幾塊磚頭，明日你嘅子子孫孫世世代代見到香港警犬都要低下頭，誠惶誠恐咁遠遠避開。就好似日治時期，喺香港見到黃軍咁。

當然，參與呢個討論嘅 LYK 大部分都係已經移民並身在加拿大，隔岸觀火。將來無論香港變成點，可能都係只係茶餘飯後閑話一宗。
ANYWAY， 一陣就落灣仔參與反警暴遊行(12月7日下午2時）。不為甚麼，就只為將來百年歸老果一刻，少一件遺憾嘅事。

當然你若身在香港，亦都可以為同一個理由，戴條藍絲帶落來揼實我。

B2L2

U don't have to question whether I watched the clips that you posted.  I watched them the day it happened and watched many versions of the same scene.  Why don't u show the version that cleanly filmed who was on the stage ordering the other to charge forward?

U obviously have a different opinion and standard on this matter.  I respect that.