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作者: puZZle 時間: 2009-10-7 11:19 標題: 金庸版本一版二版新三版比較

本帖最後由 puZZle 於 2009-10-7 12:22 編輯

http://blog.ylib.com/butterfly

射鵰英雄傳

神鵰俠侶

倚天屠龍記

天龍八部

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-10-7 11:32

射鵰英雄傳-----我有，仲係一模一样的！

作者: puZZle 時間: 2009-10-7 15:04

射鵰英雄傳-----我有，仲係一模一样的！
CWong 發表於 2009-10-7 12:32

o wow
i thought they are almost "extinct"

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-10-7 16:47

3# puZZle

I read the 1st edition in 60's
I read all the 2nd. edition volume,
haven't seen the 3rd. edition except the one in Simplified Chinese, I do not appreciate them.
To me, Simplified Chinese maybe alright for science, but for classical literature, no way.
It took me a while to read the 4 articles

作者: puZZle 時間: 2009-10-8 01:25

4# somewhereintime

actually the first series i read was 書劍恩仇錄 and it was in simplified chinese

and YES i agree that traditional chinese gives a much better feel to it

I've skimmed through most of the articles on the site and all i can say is that there are some good changes and some quite unnatural ones..

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-10-8 03:24

也耒比較一吓

作者: meowmeowmeow 時間: 2009-10-8 09:21

本帖最後由 meowmeowmeow 於 2009-10-8 10:23 編輯

I have the 2nd Edition Sets. I dunt mind some of the changes, but sometime the imperfect makes things perfect. Just like 天龍八部新三版, they changed the ending as 段譽 didn't marry 王語嫣. 王語嫣's case is very realistic in 二版. She turned to段譽 after being 慕容復所棄. Which is quite reasonable, and it is not fair to compare 王語嫣 with 馬夫人 woh.

" 這一回是金庸改版史上，絕無僅有的一次藉由改版為男主角「換妻」。在這一回中，金庸將大加闡述，新三版為何將段譽的妻子由王語嫣改為木婉清、鍾靈及曉蕾諸女。

一、二版中，段譽苦戀王語嫣，終於以至誠感動佳人，苦盡甘來，抱得美人歸。金庸在新三版將這個「大圓滿」修改了，修改的原因，簡而言之，以王語嫣的角度而言，若王語嫣一遭慕容復所棄，便即轉投段譽懷抱，王語嫣未免太像馬夫人，水性楊花，金庸因此幫王語嫣安排最後仍回發瘋的慕容復身邊；又若以段譽而言，段譽本是因愛慕「神仙姊姊」才貪戀王語嫣的美色，對比起木婉清與鍾靈對段譽的真情，段譽好色勝於重情的性格太過明顯，因此金庸在新三版改說段譽戀上王語嫣是因「心魔」作祟，並在「心魔」減弱後，與王語嫣分手。

因為這個「愛情大翻盤」的結局太過驚人，幾乎等於《射鵰》中郭靖棄黃蓉而改娶華箏，或《神鵰》中楊過與小龍女分手改愛陸無雙，新三版《天龍》一出，二版讀者一片譁然。而關於這段改寫，記者陳宛茜曾於2006年8月15日「七年改版十五部，金庸說：減肥成功」一文中寫及金庸自己的看法，道：「自古英雄愛美人。然而新修版《天龍八部》中，段譽追到王語嫣後，受夠她的嘮叨與自戀，徹悟昔日執著容貌的迷思，打破傳統的神仙眷侶大團圓結局。金庸坦言，他對最後改法仍不太滿意，覺得表達手法『不夠空靈』，但讓男主角『打破心魔』的嘗試卻讓他相當振奮。」"

作者: puZZle 時間: 2009-10-8 10:18

by the way
does anyone know that 段譽 is 射鵰五絕南帝's grandfather?

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-10-8 10:22

段譽追到王語嫣後，受夠她的嘮叨與自戀，徹悟昔日執著容貌的迷思，打破傳統的神仙眷侶大團圓結局。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-10-8 10:46

I still prefer the 2nd edition that 段譽 and 王語嫣 ended up together. I do think it's reasonable for girl to change like that... (i mean 王語嫣 turn away her passion from her cousin to 段譽).
And 段譽 remains faithful and end up together is just the perfect 童話式 ending in girl's mind la..haha
I guess the 3rd edition is more for "guys perspective"...when they 得到手, then passion started to die down...haha

作者: puZZle 時間: 2009-10-8 12:05

10# fibbi

and the author deliberately changed 王語嫣 to fit the ending
王語嫣投井時，慕容復為擺脫表妹的柔情糾纏，一隻手伸了出去，卻不去拉王語嫣。

二版說王語嫣見此神情，猜到了他的心情，心想你就算棄我如遺，但我們是表兄妹至親，眼見我踏入死地，竟絲毫不加阻攔，連那窮凶極惡的雲中鶴尚自不如，此人竟然涼薄如此，當下更無別念，叫道：「段公子，我和你死在一起！」縱身一躍，向井中倒衝了下去。

新三版自是刪去了王語嫣叫道：「段公子，我和你死在一起！」將這段刪為：王語嫣見此神情，猜到了他的心情，心想你就算棄我如遺，但我們是表兄妹至親，眼見我踏入死地，你竟不加阻攔，連那窮凶極惡的雲中鶴尚自不如，我除死之外，更無別路，當下縱身一躍，向井中墮了下去。

因為金庸將要安排段譽拋棄王語嫣，新三版自也先要將二版王語嫣對段譽真情真意流露的部份悉數刪除。

http://blog.ylib.com/butterfly/Archives/2009/09/01/7846

作者: meowmeowmeow 時間: 2009-10-8 12:07

I feel sad for 木婉清 for the 2nd edition tho... but the 2nd edition's ending seems reasonable geh...

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-10-8 14:01

I thought they are all brother and sisters (same dad but different mothers)?

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-10-8 15:42

I thought they are all brother and sisters (same dad but different mothers)?
myversa 發表於 2009-10-8 14:01

They are not supposed to get married, all the girls are his cousins, he does not has any siblings

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-10-8 16:47

14# somewhereintime

Nah...all girls are "not related".

段譽 is from 刀白鳳，段延慶
other girls from 段正純 and his different lovers.

作者: puZZle 時間: 2009-10-9 10:22

I thought they are all brother and sisters (same dad but different mothers)?
myversa 發表於 2009-10-8 15:01

The girls have the same dad but different moms
段譽 is their 3rd or 4th or 5th or some very very loosely related relative

作者: puZZle 時間: 2009-10-9 10:29

段延慶刀白鳳 -> 段譽

段正淳王夫人 -> 王語嫣

段正淳甘寶寶-> 鍾靈

段正淳秦紅棉->木婉清

段正淳阮星竹 -> 阿朱阿紫

what a manwhore LOL

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-10-9 11:24

from baidu:
"段正淳的风流孽债实是情节发展的关键所在，许多意义非常重大的线索，都要从大理段二身上引出来。段正淳本人并没什么出众之处，但对此书却非常重要。段正淳的爱情是分段忠实式，并非全然勾三搭四。看他见了刀白凤，眼中全然是凤凰儿；见了秦红棉，又只知道世间上有一个红棉；见了甘宝宝，一心一意又只想着对宝宝好。这种精确划分的分段忠实的爱情，大有精彩之处。"

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