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作者: boss2007    時間: 2009-11-4 01:11     標題: 自閉症

article explained why @

http://www.naturalnews.com/02717 ... m_NaturalPedia.html
作者: cicilau    時間: 2009-11-4 22:46

OMG this is as worst as you can find with regards to misinformation! Numerous research studies have failed to find a connection between vaccination and autism. Before posting an article, you really need to consider its CREDIBILITY. An article from "NaturalNews.com"? Give me a break!

Here, just an example of a well-conducted, PEER-REVIEWED study, PUBLISHED IN A REPUTABLE JOURNAL (LANCET), which not only confirmed the lack of association between vaccine and autism through a case-controlled study, but also included a meta-analysis which is a quantitative review of ALL PREVIOUS RESEARCH on vaccine and autism, and STILL FAILED TO FIND A LINK.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/MMRUK.html

And here, a pamphlet from the National Institute of Health, the national medical research agency in the US, refuting the link between vaccine and autism:

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/upload/autismMMR.pdf

As a mental health professional working with children myself, it's disheartening to see misinformation like what you've posted inundating the internet. Please read these scientific studies before spreading misinformation.
作者: boss2007    時間: 2009-11-5 00:15

listen to CNN and  the victim family 's details @

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziJl7bwfbgA

my answer is : watch it with your own eyes.


作者: CWong    時間: 2009-11-5 00:47

本帖最後由 CWong 於 2009-11-5 00:48 編輯

病因

就自閉症的成因,仍未有定案,現有多種假說:

    * 自身障礙假說
    * 基因說
    * 腦雄性荷爾蒙過高說
    * 營養不足說
    * 消化功能不足說
    * 葉酸說
    * 疫苗說
          o 此學說首次提出,是在1988年2月出刊的刺針雜誌刊出由Andrew Wakefield為首的研究[3],表示自閉症可能和麻腮風三聯疫苗有關。但此研究有人批評可信性成疑。因為Andrew Wakefield有利益衝突。[4]二零零五年十月,考科藍協作網總結了31項有關自閉症和麻腮風三聯疫苗的研究,未有證據證明麻腮風三聯疫苗與自閉症有關。[5]
          o 1998年由Gillberg領導的研究,分析瑞典由1975至1984年的數據,發現加入麻腮風三聯疫苗於防疫計劃之前和之後,自閉症的發病率沒有統計學上的明顯分別。[6]Madsen等於2002年發表的研究,分析丹麥由1991年至1998年的數據,也發現有接種麻腮風三聯疫苗與沒有接種麻腮風三聯疫苗之兒童的自閉證病發率沒有統計學上的明顯分別。[7]
          o Kennedy首次發表Thimerosal(一種含有有機水銀的疫苗防腐劑)可能和自閉症有關。[8]他分析了水銀中毒和自閉症的病徵相似之處,也表示安曼教派兒童沒有接受防疫注射,自閉症發病率很低。此研究沒有任何流行病學數據支持。可是,美國疾病管制中心回應此研究,指Thimerosal不似是自閉症的原因。但基於公眾憂慮,疾病管制中心、食物及藥物管理局,及國家健康署共同於一九九九年發表聲明,要求藥廠停止使用Thimerosal作為疫苗防腐之用。
          o Geier等發表了十一份研究,指出自閉症和兒童接種疫苗有關。他根據美國Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)數據進行分析,指出美國防疫計劃使用沒有含有Thimerosal的疫苗後,美國兒童的自閉症發病率有所下降。美國兒科協會嚴重指摘此研究,表示VAERS的數據有偏頗,不能用於流行病學研究。Madsen的研究也發現,就算丹麥於1992年停用Thimerosal,自閉症的發病率也不跌反昇。
    * 腦創傷說
    * 細菌或病毒入侵說
    * 免疫系統失效說
    * 血型說
    * 神經元說
    * 心理障礙假說
    * 自然變異假說
http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E8%87%AA%E9%96%89%E7%97%87
作者: cicilau    時間: 2009-11-5 01:37

本帖最後由 cicilau 於 2009-11-5 02:55 編輯
listen to CNN and  the victim family 's details @

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziJl7bwfbgA

my answer is : watch it with your own eyes.


boss2007 發表於 2009-11-5 01:15


And my answer to you is: case study / anecdotal "evidence" from "victim family" does NOT count when it comes to establishing a causal relationship between A and B. Just because B occurs after A, does NOT mean that A has caused B. The diagnosis of autism is difficult for a family to swallow, and humans have an inherent need to find out a DEFINITIVE REASON for why something has occurred. When no one can tell a family why their child has autism, the family will go on a journey of attributing the illness to something. Research has found, however, that families' attribution / explanation of why an illness occurs is often ERRONEOUS AND UNSCIENTIFIC.

I have watched it with my own eyes. Didn't I tell you that I work with children in mental health? I also do research with families whose children have been diagnosed with serious illnesses, looking at how they explain the causes of the illness. What I can tell you is that: misinformation like "vaccine causes autism" creates MORE HARM to children because it has no scientific basis whatsoever, and parents, by blaming autism on something that isn't even a cause, will be misled into looking into treatment options that are totally not effective. It's unfortunate that AFTER TONS OF RESEARCH PROVING THAT VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM, THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE LIKE YOU PERPETUATING A MYTH, A LIE, OVER THE INTERNET, JUST BASED ON ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, which further put children at risk. So a link from Youtube documenting a NEWS STORY done by CNN is strong enough evidence to refute PUBLISHED, PEER-REVIEWED, EMPIRICAL RESEARCH from the past 20 years that disproved the "vaccine theory" ???

By the way, the increase in prevalence in autism has to do with better, more sensitive DIAGNOSTIC INSTRUMENTS, which simply were not available 10 to 20 years ago. At that time, people with serious autism were diagnosed with mental retardation or other forms of developmental disorders. Those who were higher functioning might be diagnosed with other stuff, or simply were not offered help because NO ONE KNEW THAT THEY HAD AUTISM. The conceptualization of autism in the medical field has greatly improved over the past 20 years, making it easier for clinicians like us to recognize, understand, and diagnose it. Just because the rise of autism COINCIDES with the use of certain vaccines, does not mean that they have any causal relationship in between. If this argument is correct, then in that case, the rise of autism also coincides with the stock market rising, increase in immigration and diversity in North America, the advance of the internet, etc......so are you gonna say that autism is caused by the stock market, that we should ban immigration cos' immigration causes autism, or that we should stop using the internet cos' obviously after more and more people begin to use the internet, more and more people are diagnosed with autism!

"Correlation does NOT imply causation", the first rule you gotta keep in mind when it comes to intepreting research and understanding causal relationships.
作者: boss2007    時間: 2009-11-7 01:02

I highly recommended to read this story - how the mom desperately save his own kid from autism @

http://www.doublex.com/section/h ... ear-old-pot-part-ii


作者: boss2007    時間: 2009-11-7 01:19

and part I  @

http://www.doublex.com/section/h ... e-my-9-year-old-pot
作者: cicilau    時間: 2009-11-7 10:58

I like how you ignore the scientific evidence we've posted and keep spewing your toxic, misleading so-called "evidence". This shows you're just a troll.
作者: Quest    時間: 2009-11-21 19:11

I like how you ignore the scientific evidence we've posted and keep spewing your toxic, misleading so-called "evidence". This shows you're just a troll.
cicilau 發表於 2009-11-7 11:58


Don't bother la! For boss 2007 is an anarchist known to waste bandwidth spreading misleading health-related information on LYK.

He's been known for that matter and with an agenda to boot.

He won't listen to you facts no matter how "right" you are (for he's pretty much wrong to begin with....

Q.




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