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作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-11 12:43 標題: 中國·攜母住宿舍遭校方驅趕·上海樓價高逼死女碩士

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中國·攜母住宿舍遭校方驅趕·上海樓價高逼死女碩士

（中國上海）中國樓價飆升，引發悲劇不斷。上海一名剛攻讀碩士的女生，因無力買樓或租樓安置單親母親，帶她同住校內宿舍，以盡孝心，不料遭校方驅趕。好不容易租房安頓母親，又被校方斥“沒錢不要讀書”。女生愧於無力養母，弔頸自殺身亡。

事件引起轟動，有網民慨嘆：“窮人沒資格活在這偉大的時代！”

上海海事大學法學院2009級女碩士楊元元在宿舍衛生間用兩條繫在一起的毛巾，將身體懸掛在水龍頭上，半蹲以一種極為痛苦的方式結束了自己的生命。

據悉，被校方驅趕出宿舍的楊母，前往學校宿舍探望女兒時，揭發女兒自行了斷生命的悲劇，眼前的一幕，幾乎讓她昏了過去。

現年30歲的楊元元，6歲就喪父，她與弟弟兩人一直靠當工人的母親供養。她今年考上碩士生，弟弟也考入北京大學。母親跟隨女兒相依為命。

多次申請校方態度冷漠

楊元元把母親帶上，本想邊讀書邊盡孝心。因無錢在校外租樓，更無力在上海買樓給母親住，她只好和母親偷偷擠在宿舍裡，將就度日。

其間，她多次向學校申請，希望校方能夠體諒她的特殊情況，讓母親暫住。但校方態度冷漠，稱“沒錢不應來讀書”，並揚言要楊母搬離。

上海持續高企的樓價，讓母女倆覓租艱難。後來終於租到一間便宜陋室，讓母親搬了出去，但校方明言禁止楊母再踏入學生宿舍，學校管理員以“鄉下人”辱罵楊母。

楊元元得悉，深感愧對母親，最終發生了慘劇。

樓價惹民怨媒體同討伐

事件引起網民熱議，指這是上海樓市發瘋的又一宗悲劇，“不要說學生買不起樓，租不起樓，連有正式工作的人，現在也是望樓興嘆。”

樓市飆升不但惹民怨，也引來媒體同聲討伐。

中央電視台“經濟半小時”欄目早前曾揭露港商李澤楷旗下盈科公司在北京炒地皮圖利後，近日再將炮口對準樓市，狂轟樓價飆升給普羅大眾帶來的痛苦。

一名北京市民當著央視記者，怒斥現時樓市飆升，“我兩輩子都掙不到這個房錢，你說這不是瘋了！”。

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-11 12:43

內地樓價飆升，引發悲劇不斷。上海一名剛攻讀碩士的女生，因無力買樓或租樓安置單親母親，帶她同住校內宿舍，以盡孝心，不料遭校方驅趕。好不容易租房安頓母親，又被校方斥「沒錢不要讀書」。女生愧於無力養母，吊頸自殺身亡。事件引起轟動，有網民慨嘆：「窮人沒資格活在這偉大的時代！」

瘋狂樓價逼死碩士孝女上海海事大學法學院 2009級女碩士楊元元在宿舍衞生間用兩條繫在一起的毛巾，將身體懸掛在水龍頭上，半蹲着以一種極為痛苦的方式結束了自己的生命。」據悉，上月 26日上午 8時 44分，被校方驅趕出宿舍的楊母，前往學校宿舍探望女兒，揭發女兒自行了斷生命的悲劇，眼前的一幕，幾乎讓她昏了過去。

現年 30歲的楊元元原籍湖北宜昌。 6歲喪父的她，與弟弟兩人一直靠當工人的母親供養。她後來考入武漢大學，畢業後一度工作，今年考上碩士生，弟弟也考入北京大學。但兩姊弟優異的學業成績，沒能給母親帶來好處，因工廠破產，又沒錢買下廠內提供的住房，母親只好跟隨女兒相依為命。

校方：沒錢不應來讀書

楊元元到上海讀碩士課程，也把母親帶上，本想邊讀書邊盡孝心。因無錢在校外租樓，更無力在上海買樓給母親住，她只好和母親偷偷擠在宿舍裏，將就度日。其間，她多次向學校申請，希望校方能夠體諒她的特殊情況，讓母親暫住。但校方態度冷漠，稱「沒錢不應來讀書」，並揚言要楊母搬離。

上海持續高企的樓價，讓母女倆覓租艱難。楊母一度瞞着女兒，坐在瑟瑟冷風中學校禮堂前過夜。後來終於租到一間便宜陋室，讓母親搬了出去，但校方明言禁止楊母再踏入學生宿舍，學校管理員以「鄉下人」辱罵楊母。楊元元得悉，深感愧對母親。有學生說：「找房沒有着落時，楊元元五天五夜沒有合眼，精神徹底崩潰，最終發生了慘劇。」

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-12-11 13:05

樓價高 here last few yr .. almost 逼死 me too ..

I have read, inflation in China, (big cities) is crazy too .. as much as here ..

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-12-11 13:14

點解讀咁多書都唔知道，死係解決唔到問題架。。。
學校唔比宿舍住多個人都無乜唔啱，但係講啲風涼說話就真係要不得。

作者: KittyLeung74 時間: 2009-12-11 13:59

死左都無用,佢阿媽仲慘!

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-11 14:27

窮人沒資格活在這偉大的時代！

That's right

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-11 14:37

A Master's degree is well beyond the basic education mandated by the consititution.

It really is a shame to persue your master's study without securing your basic needs first.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-12-11 14:38

窮人沒資格活在這偉大的時代！

That's right
快樂牛郎發表於 2009-12-11 15:27

sigh ..

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-12 16:33

杨元元告诉杨母，现在后悔当初上大学时没有报考师范类专业，那些当初成绩没有自己好的同学，师范学校毕业后在上海教书，收入很高，反观一直学习很好的自己现在却过得很不好，“努力有什么用？”杨元元还反复说觉得没让杨母过上好日子，自己很对不起杨母。杨母这时候觉得女儿反应反常，比较担心。

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-12 16:36

搞咁耐原來係一個精神病人
竟然都可以扯到同地價有關係
真係無風起浪

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-12 17:13

後悔入咗研究院，而無去做上班族就係精神病人？我話有精神病果個係你囉。

-力

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2009-12-12 18:01

WELL,精神病都係畸型社會迫出黎。

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-12 18:06

WELL,精神病都係畸型社會迫出黎。
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2009/12/12 18:01

社會只會越來越畸型

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-12 22:30

Too bad, even it's cruel but this is the realistic.
Poor people are everywhere, and laws and regulations are there too.
Can poor people eat free at any restaurant? Can poor people study free at any university? Can poor people live free in any deluxe house? Can poor people have free tickets on bus, train, and airplane?
If so, I really want to be one of them.

作者: yoursecret 時間: 2009-12-12 23:21

what's wrong with quitting and get a real job. No need to kill herself.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-12 23:41

what's wrong with quitting and get a real job. No need to kill herself.
yoursecret 發表於 2009/12/12 23:21

因為精神有問題

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-13 02:08

Too bad, even it's cruel but this is the realistic.
Poor people are everywhere, and laws and regulations are there too.
Can poor people eat free at any restaurant? Can poor people study free at any university? Can poor people live free in any deluxe house? Can poor people have free tickets on bus, train, and airplane?
If so, I really want to be one of them.
Ultraman 發表於 2009-12-12 22:30

講埋啲咁嘅野就證明你唔知良心同人性為何物。

你知唔知道咩叫做扶貧？你有無聽過咩叫做 student loan, grant, 同 bursary？你知唔知咩叫做 food bank？你知唔知道咩叫做社會安全網？

咁淺嘅野你都唔識，而背後嘅理念又唔曉，真係枉你為加拿大人呀... （當然，我更加懷疑人個無良心、無人性嘅人仲算唔算係一個人...）

-力

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-13 11:13

Too bad, even it's cruel but this is the realistic.
Poor people are everywhere, and laws and regulations are there too.
Can poor people eat free at any restaurant? Can poor people study free at any ...
Ultraman 發表於 2009-12-12 23:30

But it is happening in Vancouver

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-13 11:18

講埋啲咁嘅野就證明你唔知良心同人性為何物。

你知唔知道咩叫做扶貧？你有無聽過咩叫做 student loan, grant, 同 bursary？你知唔知咩叫做 food bank？你知唔知道咩叫做社會安全網？

咁淺嘅野你都唔識，而背後嘅 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-12-13 03:08

佢一定識
佢係唔甘心佢交既稅
係0甘樣用啫
佢交既醫保
係醫同保佢自己
所以佢反對奧把鬼嘛既全民醫保

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 11:23

講埋啲咁嘅野就證明你唔知良心同人性為何物。

你知唔知道咩叫做扶貧？你有無聽過咩叫做 student loan, grant, 同 bursary？你知唔知咩叫做 food bank？你知唔知道咩叫做社會安全網？

咁淺嘅野你都唔識，而背後嘅 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-12-13 02:08

Yes, this is so simple, as you said. But you don't even understand for what you said!
Everything has a needed procedure, people have to apply for it. Can you steal the teacher's money as student loan? Can you steal food in supermarket as taking food from food bank? Even your feeling and anger is understandable, doesn't mean you can be that brainless and naive.

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 11:25

But it is happening in Vancouver
sheep 發表於 2009-12-13 11:13

Nope, not just China and Vancouver, it's everywhere in the world.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-12-13 12:04

16# 快樂牛郎

哎呀，人都去咗咯，就唔好咁講啦。我就唔相信佢有精神病，最多都係唔識諗嗟，生活迫人，真係好易令人轉牛角尖架。

作者: chunsh 時間: 2009-12-13 12:15

講埋啲咁嘅野就證明你唔知良心同人性為何物。

你知唔知道咩叫做扶貧？你有無聽過咩叫做 student loan, grant, 同 bursary？你知唔知咩叫做 food bank？你知唔知道咩叫做社會安全網？

咁淺嘅野你都唔識，而背後嘅 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-12-13 03:08

do u know the interest rate for paying back the student loan

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-13 12:38

23# chunsh

What is the interest rate? can't be higher than credit card.
It is investment for the future, the medical and dental students get $300,000 line of credit(Dr. KK Wan keep
talking about it on the radio), Prime Plus 2% is very reasonable

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-13 13:33

do u know the interest rate for paying back the student loan
chunsh 發表於 2009-12-13 12:15

Do you even know what bursaries and grants mean? They are sums of money that you do NOT have to pay back. The institution or government body just gives it to after they've evaluated your financial situation and need. Usually, they don't amount to a heck of a lot ($100 to $500 per grant or bursary), but when it comes to free money to assist students, every little bit helps.

And then there are government loans. Some people certainly abuse the system, and these guys really need to be cut off from the program. But in Canada and in HK at least, the loan is completely interest-free while you are still in your studies. And even after you graduate, the interest rate is quite reasonable. There is certainly a problem when people stay in school for too long and racking up a huge amount of student loan debt, but that's another matter for another thread.

None of this talk changes cruelty and cold bloodedness of the way the Chinese university handled the situation. And nothing you said changes the lack of humanity in you either.

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-13 13:49

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-12-13 14:51 編輯

Do you even know what bursaries and grants mean? They are sums of money that you do NOT have to pay back. The institution or government body just gives it to after they've evaluated your financial si ...
Lik 發表於 2009-12-13 14:33

You stupid moron, China is still a developing country. Their resources need to be allocated equitably to the most needy people.
BTW, please change all your light bulbs at home to LED, rather than wasting energy.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-13 13:56

本帖最後由快樂牛郎於 2009-12-13 13:58 編輯

你知唔知道咩叫做扶貧？你有無聽過咩叫做 student loan, grant, 同 bursary？你知唔知咩叫做 food bank？你知唔知道咩叫做社會安全網？

Lik 發表於 2009/12/13 02:08

貧係要扶
但係唔係盲目地扶
更加唔係係人等錢使都叫做貧

呢個女碩士生叫貧?
咁中國咪11億人都叫貧?

你係咪去扶晒佢地?
有錢都俾D細路上小學先啦

社會安全網係應該有
但係只可以停止在維持溫飽既基本條件
如果人人既無理要求都要滿足
最後結果就係更多無理要求

一個碩士生連維持生活都未做到就走去讀書
係咪應該覺得羞恥呢

經常路上見到有人問人要錢去買McDonald's, Subway
我屌
如果我冇錢我會買條French toast甚至sliced bread算
仲有閑錢去食Subway?

當然佢最後係想食Subway定其他野你無從知曉
但係起碼呢D人絕對唔需要同情

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-13 13:59

成日咁多人滿口仁義
究竟係咪紙上談兵呢

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-13 14:25

I'm a do-er, not a preacher.
I help out whatever and whenever possible within my ability.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-13 14:43

有錢都俾D細路上小學先啦
快樂牛郎發表於 2009-12-13 13:56

好一句「有錢都俾D細路上小學先啦」！但我想問吓你，國家又係咪將呢樣野放響比較優先嘅地方呢？而更重要嘅係，響成件事裡面，我覺得校方果份麻木不仁嘅態度先至係最大問題嘅所在囉。

其實你所講嘅野，我響某個程度上都認同。但我覺得無需要講同做到咁冷血同絕情囉。

-力

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-13 14:51

好一句「有錢都俾D細路上小學先啦」！但我想問吓你，國家又係咪將呢樣野放響比較優先嘅地方呢？而更重要嘅係，響成件事裡面，我覺得校方果份麻木不仁嘅態度先至係最大問題嘅所在囉。

其實你所講嘅野，我響某個程度 ...
Lik 發表於 2009/12/13 14:43

資源錯配係大部分國家都有既問題

我最經常講既例子就係

一個90幾歲已經死得既人
政府可以浪費幾十萬
就係要吊住佢條命

果頭治安同教育都經費不足
於是日日有人俾槍打死
中小學教師不足

但係民主社會就係咁
你理都唔理得咁多

反正幾十年後個個都會死
其實都冇咩分別

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-13 14:54

其實你所講嘅野，我響某個程度上都認同。但我覺得無需要講同做到咁冷血同絕情囉。
Lik 發表於 2009/12/13 14:43

要做事
就一定要決絕

而家連奧巴馬都唔敢做決定
所以響民主社會
最緊要自求多福

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-13 14:57

The CCP could spend less on military and space project and use the fund
on education. 50% of the budget is more than adequate for defending the country.
There is only 1 potential enemy(US) and it is bankrupted already.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-13 15:06

資源錯配係大部分國家都有既問題

我最經常講既例子就係

一個90幾歲已經死得既人
政府可以浪費幾十萬
就係要吊住佢條命

果頭治安同教育都經費不足
於是日日有人俾槍打死
中小學教師不足
快樂牛郎發表於 2009-12-13 14:51

In your example, I would say that to a certain extent, medical professionals already take age, probability of survival and relapse into account. They are already less likely to recommend invasive procedures and stronger medications with greater side effects. I don't want to speculate whether this comes from a purely humanitarian consideration, or whether it is the result of pure efficiency / cost-benefit analysis. But at the end of the day, unless a person decides to give it all up himself, everyone deserves to live and die in dignity. And thus you have to strike a balance between humanitarian considerations and stone cold efficiency.

-Lik

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-13 15:15

The CCP could spend less on military and space project and use the fund
on education. 50% of the budget is more than adequate for defending the country.
There is only 1 potential enemy(US) and it is bankrupted already.
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-13 14:57

The sad truth is, from the 60th anniversary parades, you can easily see that the leaders still have their mindsets dead set on military prowess and hard influences. Certainly the mindset is deeply ingrained in the structure of both the CPC and the PLA -- the power and influence of every successful CPC leader is intimately linked to his control/support of the PLA. The 槍桿子 itself is at the very core of how the current government is found.

I can only hope that in time, Mainlanders and the government will grow to become more civilized, and emerge out of their primitive military power-based mindset.

-Lik

作者: kipposhi 時間: 2009-12-13 15:22

Why didn't the daughter get a job to support her mother at the first place?

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 15:26

No need to relate to deeper politics. It's very simple. Regulations are there!
If poor students can bring their families to 宿舍, why richer students cannot? So it's a special authority and privilege to poor ones? Doesn't make sense. Once one case is allowed to do so, everybody can do the same, then all regulations will become meaningless (same to laws). Do you think all regulations and rules and laws shouldn't even need to exist in the first place?
Nobody 逼死 her. It's her own problem. She chose how her life ended. Why blame on others, why it was others' responsibility?! Be mature.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-12-13 15:43

阿超人大佬，唔該你用吓腦啦。

無人話過大學宿舍應該俾個阿媽響道住喎？叫佢阿媽搬走咪叫佢阿媽搬走囉，使唔使講埋啲「無錢就咪鬼來讀書」呢啲咁賤架嘅說話呀？唔俾人地阿媽踏入學生宿舍亦都有啲過份。你唔俾佢留宿，咪搵人去 check 佢有無犯規囉，又使乜辱罵人地係鄉下人？家吓你自己無鄉下咩？你響城市裡面住，有多果幾個錢就好巴X閉喇咩？

又一次證明我之前話你無良心同無人性係無話錯你㗎...

-力

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 16:24

阿Lik大佬, one thing is one thing, two things are two things. Please don't mix them up.
Please don't tell me she jumped down all because of this sentence "無錢就咪鬼來讀書". Then her heart was so fragile, will commit suicide sooner or later anyways even she can't catch a bus or something. Again, it's her problem. Why blame the school?
If you are that 有良心同有人性, go take her mom and all dependents to your home and you raise them all lor. Don't just talk here on the paper!

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-13 16:30

But at the end of the day, unless a person decides to give it all up himself, everyone deserves to live and die in dignity.
Lik 發表於 2009/12/13 15:06

Everybody "deserves" to live
but there is not enough resources to let everybody live

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-13 18:22

Too bad, even it's cruel but this is the realistic.
Poor people are everywhere, and laws and regulations are there too.
Can poor people eat free at any restaurant? Can poor people study free at any university? ...
Ultraman 發表於 2009-12-13 14:30

超人兄,
小弟就係one of the poor people who nearly studied FREE at HKU...
有一年full grant full loan, 另外兩年就差少少咁law.
世事無絕對既. ^^

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-13 18:24

do u know the interest rate for paying back the student loan
chunsh 發表於 2009-12-14 04:15

小弟非常清楚!!!
當年小弟用d loan 去炒股票... 絕對可以cover 2.5%p.a 既利息啦~ ^^

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 18:44

超人兄,
小弟就係one of the poor people who nearly studied FREE at HKU...
有一年full grant full loan, 另外兩年就差少少咁law.
世事無絕對既. ^^
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-13 18:22

So, you didn't apply for it but the money went into your bank account miraculously?! Amazing!

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-13 19:13

So, you didn't apply for it but the money went into your bank account miraculously?! Amazing!
Ultraman 發表於 2009-12-14 10:44

超人, 你近排係唔係心煩意亂?
你係話"Can poor people study free at any university?"
我就答你"I did it."
咁你仲乜抽插我話我有冇apply?

大佬, 我係話左比你"有一年full grant full loan, 另外兩年就差少少咁law", 你係唔係咁都唔明白係imply 左要申請架? 你唔係唔燥得濟多左眼屎, 所以比d 眼屎遮住左隻眼所以睇唔清呀?

如果係心煩意亂既話, 睇下有冇潮熱, 話唔定太太靜心幫到你.

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 19:27

超人, 你近排係唔係心煩意亂?
你係話"Can poor people study free at any university?"
我就答你"I did it."
咁你仲乜抽插我話我有冇apply?

大佬, 我係話左比你"有一年full grant full loan, 另外兩年就差少少咁la ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-13 19:13

Then please don't mistaken my meaning by chopping off the whole passage. My key concept was focused on "application". Cuz someone sounded no regular procedure is needed.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-13 19:30

Then please don't mistaken my meaning by chopping off the whole passage. My key concept was focused on "application". Cuz someone sounded no regular procedure is needed.
Ultraman 發表於 2009-12-14 11:27

咁你好心講清楚d 個重點啦! 小弟完全睇唔出你篇野有重點的... sorry.

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 19:35

咁你好心講清楚d 個重點啦! 小弟完全睇唔出你篇野有重點的... sorry.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-13 19:30

That's OK. I wasn't challenging you so you might not understand the hidden wisdom.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-13 19:44

That's OK. I wasn't challenging you so you might not understand the hidden wisdom.
Ultraman 發表於 2009-12-14 11:35

小弟又點知道超人兄既wisdom 多到仲有咁多可以hidden woh...
你明知我唔明你up 乜, 你仲乜話人"Amazing!" woh... 好似o係度單打我咁.
你明玩我jel, 定係借我既無知去單打其他人呀?

-- 比較鍾意雙打既MJJ

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-13 19:51

小弟又點知道超人兄既wisdom 多到仲有咁多可以hidden woh...
你明知我唔明你up 乜, 你仲乜話人"Amazing!" woh... 好似o係度單打我咁.
你明玩我jel, 定係借我既無知去單打其他人呀?

-- 比較鍾意雙打既MJJ ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-13 19:44

Honestly, do you know why people say LYK is like a pond of dead water?
Quiet is boring, serious discussions lead to fight, making jokes mean 單打 or inch....... sigh. Really, it's no fun here.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-13 20:10

Honestly, do you know why people say LYK is like a pond of dead water?
Quiet is boring, serious discussions lead to fight, making jokes mean 單打 or inch....... sigh. Really, it's no fun here.
Ultraman 發表於 2009-12-14 11:51

耶~~ 你唔係唔知我同你玩緊丫麻? 衰鬼~

開開心心, 又唔傷害到人既野, 小弟一向都贊成的!

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-13 20:57

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-12-13 22:01 編輯

好一句「有錢都俾D細路上小學先啦」！但我想問吓你，國家又係咪將呢樣野放響比較優先嘅地方呢？而更重要嘅係，響成件事裡面，我覺得校方果份麻木不仁嘅態度先至係最大問題嘅所在囉。

其實你所講嘅野，我響某個程度 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-12-13 15:43

You stupid moron, please ask your government to spend borrowing money like crazy. People are disagreeing with you in this thread.

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-14 16:11

小弟非常清楚!!!
當年小弟用d loan 去炒股票... 絕對可以cover 2.5%p.a 既利息啦~ ^^
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-13 19:24

loan are for poor people use it for study, and you use it to speculate, that means you are not the one who is in need.
Shame on you MJJ

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-14 16:35

loan are for poor people use it for study, and you use it to speculate, that means you are not the one who is in need.
Shame on you MJJ
sheep 發表於 2009-12-15 08:11

shame 唔shame 就見人見智啦~
我依足程序申請, 如實申報小弟既財政狀況, 咁學生資助辦事處就批左咁多grant 同loan 比我.
交完學費仲有錢剩, 而我又有四周圍幫人補習, 都叫做搵到d 生活費, d loan 就可以用黎做其他野.
冇理由擺o係銀行收息丫, 咁就拎去買股票law~
loan 係比窮學生, 如果我唔係去補習搵錢, d loan 應該唔夠用. 我解釋完喇, 你點諗就由你啦~

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-14 17:12

shame 唔shame 就見人見智啦~
我依足程序申請, 如實申報小弟既財政狀況, 咁學生資助辦事處就批左咁多grant 同loan 比我.
交完學費仲有錢剩, 而我又有四周圍幫人補習, 都叫做搵到d 生活費, d loan 就可以用黎做其他 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-14 17:35

解釋即係掩飾

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-14 17:15

交完學費仲有錢剩, 而我又有四周圍幫人補習, 都叫做搵到d 生活費, d loan 就可以用黎做其他野.

loan 係比窮學生, 如果我唔係去補習搵錢, d loan 應該唔夠用. .
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-14 17:35

自相矛盾

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-15 01:21

自相矛盾
sheep 發表於 2009-12-15 09:15

唔講你唔知, 有grant 同 loan 架! 兩樣野來的~

係解釋又好, 係掩飾又好. 閣下令小弟睇清楚一樣野, 呢樣野就係"我仲乜野要同你解釋咁多?"

算啦, 羊羊, 玩針對唔係我地呢個年紀玩架喇. 之前有乜得罪, 就請你原諒吧! 小弟都唔想搞到LYK唔和諧啊~

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-15 08:43

唔講你唔知, 有grant 同 loan 架! 兩樣野來的~
係解釋又好, 係掩飾又好. 閣下令小弟睇清楚一樣野, 呢樣野就係"我仲乜野要同你解釋咁多?"
算啦, 羊羊, 玩針對唔係我地呢個年紀玩架喇. 之前有乜得罪, 就請 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-15 02:21

你唔好話
李超人都有權攞生果金
幫係希望幫果的真係有需要既人
培養佢回饋社會既品格
唔係走精面既牆頭草

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-12-15 09:49

57# sheep

呢個簡直係社會嘅錯啦，啲student loan批得唔夠嚴謹。

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2009-12-15 09:49

school admean staff

didnt handle it properly

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-15 10:01

57# sheep

呢個簡直係社會嘅錯啦，啲student loan批得唔夠嚴謹。
fibbi 發表於 2009-12-15 10:49

揾咗着數
低調D
仲咁周維唱

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-12-15 10:12

57# sheep

呢個簡直係社會嘅錯啦，啲student loan批得唔夠嚴謹。
fibbi 發表於 2009/12/15 09:49

Compared to EI, student loan is a very minor issue

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2009-12-15 10:26

揾咗着數
低調D
仲咁周維唱
sheep 發表於 2009-12-15 11:01

人地想你話佢 ur so smart

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-12-15 10:27

61# 快樂牛郎

That's true. EI is another issue.

作者: chunsh 時間: 2009-12-15 10:32

57# sheep

呢個簡直係社會嘅錯啦，啲student loan批得唔夠嚴謹。
fibbi 發表於 2009-12-15 09:49

u mean in Canada (specifically BC)?

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2009-12-15 10:33

sheep sheep,
你處理不當, mjj 會自...　

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-12-15 10:42

64# chunsh

My comments was based on MJJ's case. But also, I have heard stories here (in BC) as well...

作者: chunsh 時間: 2009-12-15 10:43

64# chunsh

My comments was based on MJJ's case. But also, I have heard stories here (in BC) as well...
fibbi 發表於 2009-12-15 10:42

oh, did u borrow student loan

作者: samsung 時間: 2009-12-15 11:13

點解讀咁多書都唔知道，死係解決唔到問題架。。。

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2009-12-15 13:47

shame 唔shame 就見人見智啦~
我依足程序申請, 如實申報小弟既財政狀況, 咁學生資助辦事處就批左咁多grant 同loan 比我.
交完學費仲有錢剩, 而我又有四周圍幫人補習, 都叫做搵到d 生活費, d loan 就可以用黎做其他 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-14 17:35

try apply for 綜援金, maybe you will get approve 2

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-15 14:35

63# fibbi

The social security net in Canada is so loose, many many people are abusing the system in different ways.
can you imagine how many thousands rich Asian families  claim to be below poverty ?
In fact, Richmond is considered  the poorest community in Lower Mainland, why? a lot of families
claim to have very low income, despite they live in multi-millions house, and hire servants. The
men declare non-resident status and do not pay income tax, while their wives and children are
using the public system. The dependents never pay income tax because they never  need to work.
Other scenario is, someone I know lease a 4 acres farm land with a house for $10,000 a year,
he rent out the house for $15,000, grow and sell the Chinese vegetables for cash, declares business loss
and gets subsidize from the government year after year.  It is funny that some people do not even know that we have to pay MSP.

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-15 16:27

try apply for 綜援金, maybe you will get approve 2
habitrailspace 發表於 2009-12-15 14:47

加智障傷殘津貼

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-15 17:40

加智障傷殘津貼
sheep 發表於 2009-12-16 08:27

呢樣你應該申請開啦, 教下我點申請law~

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-15 22:14

呢樣你應該申請開啦, 教下我點申請law~
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-15 18:40

我係批得多
你我會查下你有冇遺傳

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-15 22:17

我係批得多
你我會查下你有冇遺傳
sheep 發表於 2009-12-16 14:14

你批薯仔就批得多...

拿, 你講架乍, 麻煩哂你幫我查woh!!! 反正我家冇族譜, 我都唔知自己有乜野血統.
君子一言既出, 駟馬難追!

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-15 22:32

你批薯仔就批得多...
拿, 你講架乍, 麻煩哂你幫我查woh!!! 反正我家冇族譜, 我都唔知自己有乜野血統.
君子一言既出, 駟馬難追!
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-15 23:17

薯仔同番薯
真係有分別
睇你
番薯真係有咁大兜

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-15 22:38

薯仔同番薯
真係有分別
睇你
番薯真係有咁大兜
sheep 發表於 2009-12-16 14:32

唔好兜圈扮冇野woh. 幾時查完我既遺傳? 講得出做唔到就正番薯~~~

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-15 22:42

唔好兜圈扮冇野woh. 幾時查完我既遺傳? 講得出做唔到就正番薯~~~
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-15 23:38

真係要爆你D私隱?

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-15 22:48

真係要爆你D私隱?
sheep 發表於 2009-12-16 14:42

你唔想爆我私隱既話, 你可以PM 我同我講個result, 我真係好想知我既血統!!!
難得羊羊兄你肯幫我尋根啊!!!

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-16 09:59

你唔想爆我私隱既話, 你可以PM 我同我講個result, 我真係好想知我既血統!!!
難得羊羊兄你肯幫我尋根啊!!!
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-15 23:48

你有間歇性腦麻痺遺傳基因
抗拒性自我麻醉傾向
要有24小時加護照料
否則危害公眾

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