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作者: mollinbaggio 時間: 2010-3-17 00:24 標題: 加國海關惡整台女泣遭遣返

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【張麗娜、陳郁仁、何哲欣╱台北報導】台中婦人李春花昨向《蘋果》泣訴，她本月10日單獨赴加拿大旅遊探親，在溫哥華機場遭海關三度翻行李、兩度搜身，甚至被逼問：「來10多天為何帶10幾件內衣？」「你丈夫一個月才賺10幾萬元，你居然花5萬多元買機票出來玩？」海關最後恐嚇她：「若不簽（離境同意書），就拘留1、2天。」她歷經5小時多折磨後，在半逼迫下簽署自願遣返同意書，遣返回台。

對此，外交部長楊進添昨晚說：「加拿大海關這麼不尊重我們國人，如果真有其事，我們一定要向加國政府抗議。」
東吳政治系學生詹子儀說，海關當然有裁量權，但只因日常用品、內衣褲帶太多就遭質疑，「加拿大海關實在太過分了！」淡江大學美國研究所教授陳一新說，加國政府質疑簽證過期，若證實沒這回事，「政府應協助控告加國政府，或是要求道歉！」
「我們國家不起眼嗎」
加國海關質疑李春花為何只買單程機票，但李婦昨出示文件證明她是買來回機票。

加國海關質疑李春花為何只買單程機票，但李婦昨出示文件證明她是買來回機票。

李春花（50歲）昨說，被遣返時，加國海關告訴長榮航空人員指她「加簽過期」遭遞解出境，但她本月9日才拿到加簽，怎可能過期？她泣訴：「我沒帶任何違禁品，既非妓女也非走私販毒，為什麼要這樣對我？難道只因為我們不起眼的國家嗎？」
李春花說，這是第一次赴加國自助旅行，本月10日搭長榮晚上11時25分班機，因住表姊溫哥華家中，也幫表姊帶兩大箱共46公斤行李，在當地時間晚上6時 10分抵達。通過海關入境與護照都沒問題，但出關時將入境表格遞給機場人員，海關卻要她往關卡作行李檢查，還問她為何只買單程機票。由於她不諳英語，因此要求翻譯。
李春花向海關表示來溫哥華旅遊度假15天，住表姊家，並出示來回機票。但海關不斷盤問，也打開她兩個行李箱檢視，將行李翻得亂七八糟，包含內衣、鍋子、食物，鞋子及衣服等。
不自願遣返就要拘留
加國海關說李婦是「加簽過期」遭遞解出境，但李婦本月9日拿到加簽，9月7日才到期。

加國海關說李婦是「加簽過期」遭遞解出境，但李婦本月9日拿到加簽，9月7日才到期。

李春花給海關表姊電話及住址，並指表姊在出境大廳等候，但海關打電話後卻告知沒人接聽。她拿筆記本要對照電話是否有誤，對方搶走筆記本，並要她不准碰任何東西，手機也沒收。她再給海關台灣姊夫及丈夫的手機號碼，海關事後指電話都是虛構，最後翻譯人員與她先生通上電話後拿一張表格給她，給她兩選擇，一是簽同意書馬上搭機回台，二是不填就要拘留她，「這樣的情況下，我能不簽嗎？」
之後李春花被女海關搜身，不准碰任何東西，連上廁所拿衛生棉也不行，翻譯解釋後才讓她拿1片。經過3小時，海關押著她登機返台。她說，由於加拿大簽證遭到註銷，也擔心變成不良紀錄，未來出國也會遭到關切，希望外交部能給她一個解釋。
李春花女兒謝小姐昨在網路上貼文痛批，並指媽媽被加國海關盤問：「為什麼單獨前來加拿大？」媽媽連在機場外的表姊都沒有見到面，只能簽名返國。《蘋果》致電謝小姐，她說：「媽媽說不會再去加拿大了。」
加拿大駐台北貿易辦事處公關經理嚴文君昨說，不清楚此案細節，無法評論。熟悉加國領事業務人士研判，加國擔心旅客帶奢侈品到加轉賣，對某些行李的檢查較嚴謹，可能造成誤會。
外交部在本月14日收到李春花女兒的投訴信函後，昨與她聯繫，要求傳真加拿大海關所發的官方遣返文件，並發電報給我駐加辦事處，要求了解情形。
加國海關曾電死旅客
溫哥華街景。資料照片

溫哥華街景。資料照片

加拿大移民局發給李春花要她立刻離境的文件上指，是依據加拿大《移民及難民保護法》第42條規定；該規定是指入境申請者有家人被加拿大列為不得入境，無論此次是否隨行，申請者都不得入境。對此，李說，她是全家人中第一個到加拿大的。
我駐加代表處服務組組長邱育汕表示，加國移民官權力很大，會依問答過程判斷，決定是否讓旅客入境，國人如碰到類似情況，應要求致電辦事處求助。
加拿大海關過去對旅客也有不良紀錄，2007年10月，一名波蘭男子在溫哥華機場因加國警方執法過當，慘遭電擊而死。

作者: mollinbaggio 時間: 2010-3-17 00:26

來十幾天帶十幾件內衣有何出奇?老公賺十萬不讓人用五萬買機票?唔比人有私己錢或者自己出黎打工meh?加拿大幾時變左共產國家?

作者: maclover 時間: 2010-3-17 00:34

if this is true, no matter how many good olympic they hold, is useless

作者: posouth 時間: 2010-3-17 04:37

「你丈夫一個月才賺10幾萬元，你居然花5萬多元買機票出來玩？」

我也試過被海關問過類似的問題, 但每個人都有自己的saving, 自己的錢怎麼花又跟他們有什麼關係? 那次被查行李的隊伍, 有2/3就是有色人種, 沒有歧視我打死都不信.

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-17 06:50

customs rookies are always a hole
sometimes we're no better than 共產國家

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-3-17 07:31

一個月才賺10幾萬元，你居然花5萬多元買機票出來玩 ...

That is the AIR LINE problem .... with high ticket price wor ..

10幾萬 in TW is not bad income la..

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-17 08:19

they are so stupid and naive, some caucasian co-workers told me that they don't know where is Taiwan

big or not big country is not a problem, it's their ignorance I would say

$50k TWD is nothing, everybody can have their own savfings or even inheritance, it's none of their business...

what's wrong if I spend my whole month's income for travelling? everyone has their right on how to spend their own $$$ wor

these studpid Canadian thought everyone is so eager to immigrant here

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-17 08:21

50k TWD ~= 1.5K CAD

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-17 08:33

i think its just another case of miscommunication due to language barrier....but as we all know..our customs like to target moms with several pieces of big luggages.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-17 08:41

【李春花向海關表示來溫哥華旅遊度假15天，住表姊家，並出示來回機票。但海關不斷盤問，也打開她兩個行李箱檢視，將行李翻得亂七八糟，包含內衣、鍋子、食物，鞋子及衣服等。
不自願遣返就要拘留
mollinbaggio 發表於 2010-3-17 00:24

she brought 鍋子、食物?

maybe that makes her looked suspicious too... does she think Canadian is Zombia?

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-3-17 08:43

what a stupid question from the custom...
I would say a lot of people in canada makes about 3000 dollars after tax. So we should all be treated like criminals when we buy tickets to fly to asia rofl.
Even those air ticket to BC interior can be quite expensive (some even more expensive than going HK)... sigh...

作者: superberry 時間: 2010-3-17 08:53

本帖最後由 superberry 於 2010-3-17 08:54 編輯

Whenever a person brought too many luggages, it will trigger the immigration. Seems like this lady brought too many luggages! The rule of thrumb of passing the immigration is:

1. always dress like a refugee........ carrying expensive purse or bags is a big no no
2. Never put more than 2 luggages in the cart.

There's one time, my family and my aunt's family came back to Vancouver at the same time. We had 4 luggages seaprated into 2 carts, and we were fine. My aunt had 4-5 luggages putting in the same cart, she had to be checked by immigration!

Canadian & US immigration are always sensitive to girl/women who travel by themselves.......

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2010-3-17 09:42

There are tones of Chinese people going in and out of Canada everyday, if she got picked on, there must be a reason.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-3-17 10:09

回復 13# siumaibb

One reason is that she travels single and is a "visitor"...
I saw a couple times custom just pick on single female traveler to check...

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-17 10:11

SEX WORKER?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-3-17 10:14

SEX WORKER?
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-17 10:11

李春花（50歲） ...

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-17 10:17

李春花（50歲） ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-3-17 10:14

maybe she looks like 林青霞﹖50 yrs old but still pretty?

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-17 10:20

李春花（50歲） ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-3-17 10:14

林青霞ok ma?

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2010-3-17 10:30

Some people earn CAD$2000+ per month but buy handbags or cameras for $1000+ each. People can have freedom and different value to spend their own money, is it a big deal?! I think language problem is a bigger issue this time.

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-17 10:34

個急又亂又有隻鑊。。。似著草過嚟？所以比海關抖佢？ LOL

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-17 10:38

maybe she looks like 林青霞﹖50 yrs old but still pretty?
samsung 發表於 2010-3-17 10:17

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-17 10:38

個急又亂又有隻鑊。。。似著草過嚟？所以比海關抖佢？ LOL
B仔發表於 2010-3-17 10:34

& have M gan

(I thought 50 yrs old doesn't need M gan tim)

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-17 10:40

myversa 發表於 2010-3-17 10:38

do you think she looks like sex worker?

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-17 10:51

& have M gan (I thought 50 yrs old doesn't need M gan tim)
samsung 發表於 2010-3-17 10:38

ohhh... so that's why she's suspicious! lmao

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-17 10:51

回復 21# myversa

Thanks for the pic....
but no thanks

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-17 11:25

video news:

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作者: RXKEN 時間: 2010-3-17 11:39

Source: http://van.worldjournal.com/view ... tance=bc_bull_left1

台經文處關切加：李婦答話不實
溫哥華訊March 17, 2010 12:00 AM | 511 觀看次數 | 4 | | 駐溫哥華台北經濟文化辦事處雙邊業務組長林起文與秘書黃國盛16日前往溫哥華機場，向主管海關檢查業務的加拿大邊境服務署（CBSA）瞭解台灣女子李春花遭遣返經過，並就當事人所受待遇向加方表達嚴重關切。

林起文表示，昨天值班的CBSA機場督導正是10日當天值班的同一人，對方表示，由於此一事件日前才發生，因此「記憶猶新」，並調出當天卷宗說明事發經過。

該位督導指稱，海關關員會懷疑李女此行目的，最主要是因為她在回答問題時陳述前後不一，起先說是來自助旅行，會有「朋友的朋友」來接機，但海關撥打李女提供的電話號碼，無人接聽，也無法留言。此外，該位督導也指出，海關起先在詢問李女職業時，她回答「家庭主婦」，但後來海關與她丈夫聯絡上，他卻指李女的職業是「診所行政人員」（medical clinics administrator），來加拿大是來找她「表姊」。

該位督導也表示，由於李女前後說法不一，加上行李中還有兩個鍋子等物件，也不是一般自助旅行遊客會攜帶的物品，海關因此認定她有所隱瞞，才讓她選擇自動離境，或是交付移民法庭裁審，則需留此二三天。至於搜身、檢查行李等，他表示「都符合正常處理程序」。

該位督導也表示，當時已透過翻譯員，清楚向李女解釋。在李女簽署自動離境表格後，即讓她在機場離境大廳一帶活動，並未把她限制在海關拘留區（holding area）內。

林起文表示，他們在拜會過程中，也一再向加方強調當事人在這一過程中受到不公平待遇的感受。

林起文也指出，領務局印製有所有駐外館處的地址、電話及緊急求助電話，這項小冊子在領務局、機場都可取得，旅行社也多會提供，也可在領務局網站上查詢。

由於CBSA海關督導在說明李女案例時也指出，基於對個人隱私的尊重，除非當事人主動提出，否則海關不會主動聯絡當事人所屬國家的館處。林起文呼籲，台灣民眾若在海外通關遇上問題時，可直接致電駐外館處，或要求海關協助聯絡，駐外人員必會提供協助。

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-17 11:43

I just don't understand why needed to 兩度搜身? first time a woman, 2nd time a guy?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-17 12:13

How come this could happen?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-17 12:17

they are so stupid and naive, some caucasian co-workers told me that they don't know where is Taiwan ...
samsung 發表於 2010-3-17 08:19

Most people didn't look at the world map. Just like most Americans do not know where Canada is.

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-17 12:21

Most people didn't look at the world map. Just like most Americans do not know where Canada is.
peter236 發表於 2010-3-17 12:17

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作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-17 12:23

she should explain that the 鍋子 is for the "tea bags"

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-3-17 14:13

Source:

台經文處關切加：李婦答話不實
溫哥華訊March 17, 2010 12:00 AM | 511 觀看次數 | 4 | | 駐 ...
RXKEN 發表於 2010-3-17 11:39

Sounds reasonable. However their conclusion seems overly stringent and premature. Bringing 2 wok is really no big deal. There ain't that much choices for woks here. Maybe they are made in China version of Le Cruset, who knows LOL. Besides even if she plan to illegally stay here, if those were cheap wok, might as well buy them here, only $10 a piece or less.

The worse they they did is denying access to phones, toilet paper, etc? wtf? They should've focused on the inhumane detention during the interview, rather than why the customs suspected her and turned her away.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-3-17 14:51

i think it was either miscommunication or she tried to hide something at the beginning.  so her answers were not consistent.
the questions they asked are ok, i have been asked similar questions by us custom.
normal thinking, how often will you bring two big luggages for vacation.
i don't surprise of this kind of story, but just wonder what is the catch.  and similar story just happens anywhere

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-17 14:53

I always ask my dad to bring lots of stuff here when he comes here for vacation.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-3-17 15:00

we will ask our friends to bring as much as they can when they come to vacation.
but when you go to japan, europe or ... for vacation, will you bring two packed luggages with you. i think this is something that the main culture won't understand.

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-17 15:09

I always ask my dad to bring lots of stuff here when he comes here for vacation.
myversa 發表於 2010-3-17 14:53

如果你帶隻鑊比人，你會話比人聽係"GIFT"
如果你帶M巾，你會話係"ME USE ME USE"

如果你個急D衫好亂，你咪話係飛機碌到亂哂囉 "FALL DOWN FALL DOWN"～ LOL

點解探朋友D朋友邊左做探表姐？就算英文唔好，未有翻譯到，唔識講COUSIN，都食講FAMILY& not FRIEND掛。。。

不過算啦，唔好搞到我地手指拗出唔拗入咁

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-17 15:52

that's why I seldom ask my friends to bring things for me from HK. esp when they are visiting as tourists. It's ok if my friends are visiting HK and coming back tho. (but that eats up their duty free qouta)

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-3-17 15:59

駐溫哥華台北經濟文化辦事處發言人賈慧說，CBSA答覆指出，李春花說要到溫哥華找朋友的朋友，但移民官致電李春花在台灣的丈夫，丈夫說她要來找表姐；至於李春花的工作，李春花告訴移民官她是家庭主婦，但丈夫說她從事行政工作，兩者不同，因此拒絕她入境。

賈慧表示，如只是因她和丈夫對「要找的人，以及工作」的說法不同即拒絕李的入境，做法並不合理，辦事處已向CBSA表達關切。賈慧說，台駐加代表處亦向聯邦移民部，對有台旅客入境過關遭無理對待一事，表達關切。

據台灣傳媒報道，50歲的李春花9日拿到加拿大核發的觀光簽證，10日隻身搭乘長榮航空飛往溫哥華，探視移民加拿大的妹妹。她不會說英文，但認為溫哥華機場有華語翻譯，還有妹妹接機，應不會有問題。沒想到通關時，被海關人員帶進小房間，質疑她簽證過期、僅持單程機票，懷疑有逾期停留「企圖」。李春花立即出示簽證和回程機票，證明自己單純是觀光探親，卻引來海關人員一連串無理對待。

如只是因她和丈夫對「要找的人，以及工作」的說法不同即拒絕李的入境，做法並不合理... why not? how can we trust you if you can't even answer these simple questions. a friend of friend, cousin & sister are quite different wor.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-3-17 16:03

I can't say 李春花 is 100% right but no doubt that the custom attitude is pretty bad....佢哋同你講嘢嘅態度係審犯嘅語氣, in the first place.

作者: prelude318is 時間: 2010-3-17 20:01

I agree it is a miscommunication incident.

I also agree the CBSA is very rude in general. I remembered once I went to Pt. Roberts to pick up a parcel i bought on ebay.  On my way back to Canada, the custom officer asked me the value of goods i was bringing home.  I handed him the invoice and paid the duty/ gst / pst with a good attitude.  I was very cooperative in the entire process but he searched my whole car over. He didn't find anything of course and then he told me "you are free to go" after 10mins of searching and just walked away.  I followed him and questioned him " Do i look like a smuggler?  I declared everything to the exact of what i was bringing over.  Why searched my car?"  He answered he has the right to search any suspicious vehicle and it is normal procedure.  Then he kept walking back to the office.  He didn't explain what was the reasonable ground for him to suspect i was hiding something in my car.  It wasn't just a pop the trunk quick check.. it was a complete search over....

I think they are abusing their power in some situation......of all the CBSA i have deal with, about 50% had very bad attitude.  They like to question you as if you are a criminal.

作者: superberry 時間: 2010-3-17 20:52

My friend's friend had a similar story. Her background is similar to this TW lady, except she is younger and prettier

Again, CBSA said there was problem with her airline ticket, blar blar blar.......... However, she was able to reach my friend, and my friend 擔保 her. So everything was fine at the end.

If this lady could have reached her friend/cousin, she wouldn't have been expelled.

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-17 21:28

I agree it is a miscommunication incident.

I also agree the CBSA is very rude in general. I rem ...
prelude318is 發表於 2010-3-17 08:01 PM

well, they may have a list to check for a certain type of car and we don't know it.
And they have the right. My car had been search and I had no problem with it.
just don't take it personally. let them search since you have nothing to hide.

作者: Rainy 時間: 2010-3-17 21:57

Their 態度 is okay, not bad at all. I think as long as you are being honest with them, you would not be treated as 審犯嘅態度! Each time I come back from Asia, they are nice to me. I just answer what they question me and, YES, I do have lots to bring back to Canada each time!!! They just let me go with no doubts. Maybe it's that woman's 態度有問題 at the beginning? I thought most TW people are famous for 好夠火氣...? Each time when I turn on that Mandarin TV, all I see is TW politicians shouting and yelling at each other . Maybe she was 火氣太大, and 關員們 didn’t like it? lols

作者: Rainy 時間: 2010-3-17 22:07

I agree it is a miscommunication incident.

I also agree the CBSA is very rude in general. I rem ...
prelude318is 發表於 2010-3-17 20:01

其實有D人, 真係drive theirs cars to the states for services. ie. 改裝, change tires, etc. 所以其實佢想睇下你有冇做以上既野, 又唔講佢知囉. We go down to the states all the time and they always ask us if we take our car for services. 不過有次幾搞野, 佢問我地, 你車尾箱有邊個0係度, 我咪話 "excuse me?" 佢又問 who? 之後我 bro 多口...頂左佢一野... 話 "You should use the word 'what", not 'who'... 個關員係pause 左幾秒囉...... 幾驚以後冇得再順順利利過美國關啊.... ai~

作者: prelude318is 時間: 2010-3-17 22:08

well, they may have a list to check for a certain type of car and we don't know it.
And they have ...
布小熊發表於 2010-3-17 21:28

O.. i have nothing to hide obviously. I let him do his work and i was very cooperate in the process like I said.

I didn't take it personally , I was just trying to share my experience and feeling with CBSA. I agree it is their job to search all suspicious vehicles. This part is completely understandable. I totally respect them to be responsible for their job. I have crossed the border hundreds of times and I would say approx 50%(not all, I have seen some very nice one too) of the CBSA I have met had very bad altitude. In my example, I was just mad at them because they made me feel like a was a smuggler right at the beginning. They asked for my car key then called me to wait in the office and they just started to search my car. I went out to witness the search but i got called back to the office. After the search, they didn't apologize of having me waiting. Instead, they just gave me the key back. Told me I was free to go and just walked away.....They didn't explain anything in the whole time.

作者: superberry 時間: 2010-3-17 22:23

全世界的海關都係甘惡架啦

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-18 08:39

http://van.worldjournal.com/view ... ance=bc_bull_right1

一名台灣旅客在溫哥華機場遭加拿大海關遣返，堅稱加國海關故意找碴，海關則說是旅客說詞不實，處理並無不當，各執一詞。其實出入海關只要誠實以對，多可避免不愉快事件發生。

很多人埋怨海關官員「晚娘面孔」，其實將所有人當壞人，正是其工作寫照。畢竟在「國家安全」及「非法移民」的衝擊下，身為第一道防線壓力很大。

對稅務居民而言，由於多了稅收考量，海關當然另眼相待。「出境多久？」、「目的為何？」、「帶的東西值多少？」等，都是常見問題，再核對申報單，無非想知道是否說謊、能否課點稅。

至於遊客，海關問話的主要用意是確認入境目的與簽證相符，並會在限期內離境。只要海關官員認為旅客說法前後不一或有所隱瞞，即可拒絕其入境。

溫哥華機場每天入境的旅客數萬人，海關官員其實平均只有幾秒鐘就得做出判斷，究竟是允許其入境，還是做進一步盤查。

台籍婦女李春花現年50歲且不諳英語，卻聲稱來加拿大「自助旅行」，不免啟人疑竇，如果她能告訴海關有親人在加拿大，或許情況就不至於演變至此。

根據海關的說法，李春花最初表示「朋友的朋友」會來接機，後來又改口是到溫哥華找表姊，對自己職業的說法也前後不一。

平心而論，不管李女是基於什麼理由有所隱瞞，也許她認為並無惡意也無傷大雅，但海關官員心態很簡單，只要起疑，不能錯放一人，否則出事誰負責。

要避免類似事件，還是「誠實為上策」，並坦然面對所有問題，無論海關官員的問題多麼的「無厘頭」，其用意無非是想「引蛇出洞」，觀察旅客反應，看看旅客是否會心虛而露出破綻。

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-18 08:53

O.. i have nothing to hide obviously. I let him do his work and i was very cooperate in the ...
prelude318is 發表於 2010-3-17 10:08 PM

well, I know that you understand but just don't feel bad. They really don't have to explain to you why and how because in that case, the real smuggler will know how to "escape" being picked for search.

I used to cross the border everyday (yes, every work day) for a few years. I actually NEVER had problem with the Canadian custom and I mean real problem. Being asked and being searched is just part of the routine.

Rule of thumb is to tell the truth, answer all questions even thought it seems unrelated to your trip and report everything. (e.g. a loaf of bread, some left over cotton candy I picked up after office party, balloons...etc)
Many times, they just rolled their eyes when I told them. LOL

my car was search twice in a week one time, I asked (jokingly) if they are looking for a black car and they just smiled back. (I don't think they can tell me)

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-18 08:55

Yes, just report the truth. If you spend 150, report it, most likely they would not charge you; my friends bought clothes from outlets and wore them; the custom still found out and charged them duties.

作者: jimmyche 時間: 2010-3-18 09:34

my friends bought clothes from outlets and wore them; the custom still found out and charged them duties.
myversa 發表於 2010-3-18 08:55

Mind sharing how your friend got caught?

thanks.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-18 10:08

Yes, just report the truth. If you spend 150, report it, most likely they would not charge you; my ...
myversa 發表於 2010-3-18 08:55

haha... did she wear 6 coats?

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-18 10:10

Mind sharing how your friend got caught?

thanks.
jimmyche 發表於 2010-3-18 09:34

I was not there when this happened otherwise I would tell them to report honestly.

According to her, a group of 4 went down to outlet. They bought a lot of clothes so they took out some tags and wore those clothes. They did declare some of the clothes but not all. Canadian custom might find them wearing too much so asked to search their car.

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-18 10:16

I was not there when this happened otherwise I would tell them to report honestly.

According to h ...
myversa 發表於 2010-3-18 10:10

remind me ppl wearing 2 pants

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-18 10:21

remind me ppl wearing 2 pants
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-18 10:16

如果佢地帶兩個PUSH UP BRA，烏低身 i o係車窗度同海關哥哥講野。。。。我諗會過到關掛～ LOL

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-18 10:31

如果佢地帶兩個PUSH UP BRA，烏低身 i o係車窗度同海關哥哥講野。。。。我諗會過到關掛～ LOL ...
B仔發表於 2010-3-18 10:21

林青霞 ok gei

作者: Bikki 時間: 2010-3-18 10:57

haha.. one of my fds wore few new panties and few bras crossing the border before.. LOL..

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-18 11:21

haha.. one of my fds wore few new panties and few bras crossing the border before.. LOL..
Bikki 發表於 2010-3-18 10:57

and did not get caught?

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-18 11:29

the customs are not trained to be friends with you...like one of the article said..they r the first line of defense on our boarder...so its not unusaul sometimes that their tones and actions are 'harsh'

also..sometimes you just have to give sympathy to all the sht they hv to deal with everyday ..its not an easy job to do...jsut let them to do their job...u hv nothing to hide right?

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-18 11:44

之前有朋友嘅朋友做CUSTOM。佢話，如果你去見工，你笑，NICE ＆ FRIENDLY ＆ OUTGOING。。。你一定比人叮走。

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-18 11:46

之前有朋友嘅朋友做CUSTOM。佢話，如果你去見工，你笑，NICE ＆ FRIENDLY ＆ OUTGOING。。。你一定比人叮走 ...
B仔發表於 2010-3-18 11:44 AM

haha I have a friend who is a custom officer (not at borders but only at postal service).
I just LOL when I see your post... she is none of the above.

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-18 12:05

我咁大個女只有一次，見過識笑，識同你講笑嘅CUSTOM。
就係。。。。。
我細個嗰時，係機場做PART TIME，有RESTRICTED AREA PASS嘅。我做嘅崗位係YVR嘅INTERNATIONAL DEPARTURE入面。咪得閒有D行嚟行去嘅海關，專門CHECK你有冇帶多過一萬蚊出境嘅？個兩個哥哥，CHECK人只會好嚴肅嘅EXPRESSION，唔係黑面。同埋，佢地次次行過都會同我SAY HI，又同我講笑架～（都OK靚仔架 LOL

）

我想講嘅係，對住佢地嘅JOB （TARGET PEOPLE），我諗係佢地係需要好SERIOUS，因為佢地嘅責任都好重大。對其他人（IN THAT SITUATION 係我，因為我唔係旅客），佢地都係人一個姐～

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-18 12:28

haha... did she wear 6 coats?
samsung 發表於 2010-3-18 10:08

Why do people have to do that? We have so many shopping facilities in Canada.

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-18 12:32

Why do people have to do that? We have so many shopping facilities in Canada.
peter236 發表於 2010-3-18 12:28

peter, is bed time la~

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-18 12:37

the customs are not trained to be friends with you...like one of the article said..they r the first line of defense
news 發表於 2010-3-18 11:29

lol. if u rmb few years back, a guy from the state carrying a gun and soon arriving the canada border, what u call this "1st of defense" fled in no time. what a shame!

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-18 12:42

Why do people have to do that? We have so many shopping facilities in Canada.
peter236 發表於 2010-3-18 12:28

Let me be kind to answer you; because it's much much cheaper than here.

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-18 12:45

lol. if u rmb few years back, a guy from the state carrying a gun and soon arriving the canada bord ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-18 12:37

yeah i remembered..tht was hilarious..but hey..they hv no firearms like the states...so it was reasonable

作者: meowow 時間: 2010-3-18 13:42

感覺上沒有這麼離譜, 但人傳人越傳越亂... alot like 炒新聞...
however, 我也很討厭海關的態度... 跩的258 萬

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-18 13:46

Let me be kind to answer you; because it's much much cheaper than here.
myversa 發表於 2010-3-18 12:42

But why do you still stay here if they are so cheap in the US?

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-18 13:47

But why do you still stay here if they are so cheap in the US?
peter236 發表於 2010-3-18 13:46

Let me ask you, why you still stay here when you love China so much?

geeezzz..

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-18 14:09

Let me ask you, why you still stay here when you love China so much?

geeezzz..
myversa 發表於 2010-3-18 13:47

So you are saying you and I are the same? LOL
I just ask you a question, you just answer it, regardless of when I may go back to Hong Kong.

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-18 14:28

So you are saying you and I are the same? LOL
I just ask you a question, you just answer it, regard ...
peter236 發表於 2010-3-18 14:09

No need to fight. You have ignore many of my questions while I almost answered all your questions in the past. I do not need to tell you the reason why I stay here and so do you. I just want to show you people do not have to move to the states just because the stuff is cheap there just as you think China is great but you do not have to move back to China. Period.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-18 14:31

No need to fight. You have ignore many of my questions while I almost answered all your questions ...
myversa 發表於 2010-3-18 14:28

As usual, I was just joking with you, don't be so serious.
I asked you many logical questions before, but you just deflected most of them without answering.

作者: Guy 時間: 2010-3-19 04:49

"表姊溫哥華家中，也幫表姊帶兩大箱共46公斤行李"

I used to work in the airport doing baggage service with airlines and customs at arrivals.
Single oversea traveler carry two full load (specially over-weighted) luggages is always a red flag.

Majority of them will get search.
Fail to explain( without a decent answer) and uncooperative attitude will get deported for sure.

It happens in the airport every week.

From what i see here, too many clothes, and for sure not for herself, need to declare in the custom declaration card.

I have a feeling that she lied to customs. about the clothing is for herself use at the begining.
Lie to customs when they already suspect your intention, will get a bigger penalty then telling the truth.

Tell the truth, you pay taxes and you enter.
Tell lies (or fail to comply correctly), you violated the customs law, and you get deported.

Trust me, the customs knows very well about asian culture about bringing things around.

if you in the carousel area everyday, you will see many asian has been tag to have "special clearance" just because they have over amount of luggage.

作者: superberry 時間: 2010-3-19 08:52

回復 74# Guy

thanks for sharing the info! So I was kindda right........ never load too many luggages in one cart, ha ha

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-19 09:37

本帖最後由布小熊於 2010-3-19 09:38 編輯

被拒入境台婦表姊現身「內衣是幫我帶的」
http://www.mingpaovan.com/htm/News/20100319/vaba.htm

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5082-eng.html#s2x4

Personal baggage
As a visitor, you can bring certain goods into Canada for your own use as "personal baggage." Personal baggage includes clothing, camping and sports equipment, cameras and personal computers. It also includes vehicles, private boats and aircraft.

You must declare all goods when you arrive at the CBSA port of entry. Border services officers do conduct examinations of goods being imported or exported to verify declarations. If you declare goods when you arrive and take them back with you when you leave, you will not have to pay any duty or taxes. These goods cannot be used by a resident of Canada or on behalf of a business based in Canada, be given as a gift to a Canadian resident or disposed of or left in Canada.
The border services officer may ask you to leave a security deposit for your goods, which will be refunded to you when you export the goods from Canada. Should this occur, the officer will issue a Form E29B (PDF, 497 KB), Temporary Admission Permit, retain a copy and give you one for your records. When you leave Canada, present your goods and your copy of Form E29B to the officer who will give you a receipt copy of the form and your security deposit will be refunded by mail.

Gifts
You can import gifts for friends into Canada duty- and tax-free as long as each gift is valued at CAN$60 or less. If the gift is worth more than CAN$60, you will have to pay duty and taxes on the excess amount. You cannot claim alcoholic beverages, tobacco products or business-related material as gifts.

Looks like she mixed up gifts (even tho they are used and old as claim by the cousin) with personal baggage. She may not need to pay tax but she has to declare it or at least tell the truth when being questioned by the officers.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-19 10:39

what did we learn from this incident? next time if anyone come to visit you, don't ask him or her to bring you anything or she will be in trouble!

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-19 10:40

本帖最後由 news 於 2010-3-19 10:43 編輯

nice..she makes way into the english media now!

this is becoming a joke

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Taiwan+furore+after+woman+turned+back/2699424/story.html

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-19 12:04

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-3-19 12:19 編輯

what did we learn from this incident? next time if anyone come to visit you, don't ask him or her to ...
samsung 發表於 2010-3-19 10:39

Why ask someone to come and visit if it is so much hassel? Who would want to come to an unfriendly country anyway?

作者: B仔 時間: 2010-3-19 12:12

講真，如果佢老老實實咁答呀，就算GIFT OVER＄60，你估海關真係唔比佢咩？就算係講到明帶比人用，D海關都唔會話唔比啦。。。只要你照實講。去旅行，我地都有話買咗D GIFT，衫褲送比人，咪一樣咁照過。
我買多咗野，報多過＄750 FOR LONG TRIPS，去SEATTLE ONE DAY我話買左成＄300幾蚊野，D海關都照比我過，仲冇叫我比DUTY。。。我諗好多人都試過。又唔見D人讚？

From new's link @ Vancouver Sun:
" Lee, who speaks Mandarin, said a translator was brought in to help with communications, but she said the conversation went only one way, with her own questions to the English-speaking border agents going ignored. Information she did provide was also lost in the translation, she said, and she was denied the opportunity to phone her Canadian contacts for help"
又話唔識講唔識聽？佢點知個翻譯冇ACCURATELY幫佢表達清楚呀？CUSTOMS話有打過比佢表姐架喎，又有打過比佢老公，唔算DENY TO CALL FOR HELP啦。

你個女人好有問題。

唔知呀。。。見到佢搞咁多野，真係影到D TW女人更巴辣。掉架！

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-19 12:58

I think they came from places that hiding the truth will give them more benefit...
Her cousin said she suggested the woman to tell custom that she is "just a friend" so it's "easier" for her to enter. @ @
Here, we are educated to tell the truth.
I crossed the border many times reporting all my purchases and not being taxed. I did get taxed a few times. But when I buy something in the States, I always assum that it will be taxed. When it's not, then I felt like extra bonus.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-3-19 13:00

I think they came from places that hiding the truth will give them more benefit...
Her cousin said ...
布小熊發表於 2010-3-19 12:58

mine is
海關請食飯

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-19 13:01

I think they came from places that hiding the truth will give them more benefit...
Her cousin said ...
布小熊發表於 2010-3-19 12:58

Are you kidding, people here are educated to tell the truth? Countries like Canada and the US are based on lying about history.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-3-19 13:04

Are you kidding, people here are educated to tell the truth? Countries like Canada and the US are b ...
peter236 發表於 2010-3-19 13:01

so you came from a country that denies the truth

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-19 13:12

Are you kidding, people here are educated to tell the truth? Countries like Canada and the US are b ...
peter236 發表於 2010-3-19 13:01

peter 仔, bed time la~
i read u a bed time story
how about peter pan?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-3-19 13:19

peter 仔, bed time la~
i read u a bed time story
how about peter pan?
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-19 13:12

I believe I can fly,

I believe I can touch the sky..........

我要聽歌我唔要聽故仔
我唔制。。。。。。。。

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-19 13:33

I believe I can fly,

I believe I can touch the sky..........

我要聽歌我唔要聽故仔
我唔制。。。 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-3-19 13:19

好~好~
唱歌就唱歌
快 d 瞓

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-3-19 13:39

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-3-19 13:40 編輯

Z Z Z Z

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-19 13:54

At least Canada did not filter out what we can read and say over the web.. geezz...

I just cannot stop laughing whenever I read Peter's comments.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-3-19 14:02

Are you kidding, people here are educated to tell the truth? Countries like Canada and the US are b ...
peter236 發表於 2010-3-19 13:01

lying about history
japan - second world war
china - 64

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-3-19 14:17

lying about history

china - 64
tofu 發表於 2010-3-19 14:02

WHAT ?? WHAT 64 ??

NO NO NO .. NO SUCH a thing!!

Us, Great China, is the MOST HONEST country in the world .. ONLY country never lie ...

COME ON!

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-3-19 14:33

dun talk too loud he is asleep

作者: 羽山 時間: 2010-3-19 14:38

1. 海關態度很差這我想大家都贊成
2. 海關都把所有人當作罪犯恐怖份子對待 (只要是人類聽到他們那種問題以及藐視的語氣態度誰不生氣??)
3. 一個五十歲的女人能在加拿大做什麼?? 鳥不生蛋的地方恐怖份子連炸都不想炸憑什麼懷疑他入國動機不當???
4. 不管說謊或是海關自己為自己辯護兩方各說各話 (但至今拿出證據的只有李春花加拿大則都是官方回答)
光是不給姊姊進去海關找人 ,不肯打第二次電話 , 沒收李春花手機
這根本全部都是太過偏激的海關所為
5. 海關至今沒有拿出任何證據他是恐怖份子或是對加拿大有害的證據就直接作出遣返動作

6.波蘭電死人事件''被掩蓋事實''落幕，死者家屬只能自認倒楣？？
相信警察單純白人把影片拿去給警察投訴, 影片被警察''保管''起來維護自己人
投訴的人發現情況不對才找上記者鬧大事情把影片取回並公諸於世
入海關種種的爭議其實一直都有, 但從來沒看見(加拿大海關) 有提出""任何""有利證據來證明清白

7.相同情況也反映在警察上自稱黃家騎警的白豬撞死人不被起訴權力過大等等都是爭議話題從未停過
8.相信80%在入關期間被問過不少低能至極的問題
9.加拿大海關被世界雜誌評為前三名愛刁難人的國家之一歐洲加拿大澳洲
10.相同情況再不同國家會不同反應，如果在亞洲我看那個海關隔天不用來上班或記五十個大過處分
11.妳這樣對一個女子大作文章，怎不見你們的效率抓過任何恐怖份子？？交出成績單??
12.911之後各種機場警戒都提高, 但這樣已經到了歇斯底里自己下自己的狀態有何用處????
13.據我所知來加拿大朋友來玩的下飛機幾乎50%臭臉
其中有80%不會想再來加拿大

華人意識要抬頭
加拿大視個不錯的國家生活
當然種種問題再各種國家都會出現的
試比較妳回香港中國台灣返回自己mother country還受到李春花這種對待你不告上法庭才怪
但是亞洲國基本上不太問你"低能"問題並且禮貌

那亞洲人要更團結有種你們白人就不要來亞洲給我們刁難到!!!!

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-3-19 15:04

1. 那亞洲人要更團結有種你們白人就不要來亞洲給我們刁難到!!!!
羽山發表於 2010-3-19 14:38

The fact is.. ALL ASIA COUNTRIES .. THEY LOVE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-19 15:46

The fact is.. ALL ASIA COUNTRIES .. THEY LOVE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!
Catpiano 發表於 2010-3-19 15:04

i think you meant all asian girls..haha

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-19 16:03

回復 93# 羽山
disagree. They didn't allow her entry not because she is supect to be a 恐怖份子.
btw europe is NOT a country.

作者: Guy 時間: 2010-3-19 17:10

本帖最後由 Guy 於 2010-3-19 17:17 編輯

講真，如果佢老老實實咁答呀，就算GIFT OVER＄60，你估海關真係唔比佢咩？就算係講到明帶比人用，D海關都 ...
B仔發表於 2010-3-19 12:12

Yes That's ture, really ture.

a year ago, My gf and I went crazy shopping in the states. My gf reported $1000+ of clothes (mine is $900+) and voluntary hand in the detail item list and value to the officer (before the automated custom check-in begins), we expected to be taxed. But at last honesty get us thru without any trouble.

CBSA所提供拒絕李春花入境的三項理由包括：李春花與丈夫在李春花來加目的方面的說法不同；李春花與丈夫在李春花職業方面的說法不同；以及，李春花行李中的個人衣物與鍋子，不符合觀光人士旅遊用途。

Totally deserve being deport. We don't like liars here.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-19 20:53

lying about history
japan - second world war
china - 64
tofu 發表於 2010-3-19 14:02

North America is based on the looting of native Indians lands. The invaders claim they treat the natives well when they are still living in poverty.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-19 20:56

The fact is.. ALL ASIA COUNTRIES .. THEY LOVE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!
Catpiano 發表於 2010-3-19 15:04

That is why you came here to become a cowboy in Alberta benefitting from the environment polluting Avatar oil sands.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-3-19 21:14

Asian countries love white people .. and cowboy..... ??

I don't get it ..

Um .. you mean brokeback? BBP? brokeback pete??

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