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作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 09:41     標題: 婚宴不食翅 遊埠或免費

本帖最後由 布小熊 於 2010-3-26 09:59 編輯
婚宴不食翅 遊埠或免費 一對新人更可與鯊魚暢泳
組織鼓勵華人保護瀕臨絕種魚類 2010年3月26日
【明報專訊】名為「鯊魚真相」(Shark Truth)的保護鯊魚組織，以即將步入禮堂的華裔新人為目標，勸告他們在婚宴中放棄吃魚翅，支持該行動的新人有機會贏取免費到墨西哥旅遊及與鯊魚暢泳。

「鯊魚真相」組織發起人Claudia Li指出，一碗魚翅最貴可能要100加元，在利益當前下，要求超過500家中餐廳不提供魚翅，或是要客人拒絕吃魚翅，可能難有效果，因此該組織呼籲即將結婚的華裔新人們，能夠拿出愛心保護瀕臨絕種的鯊魚，最簡單及直接的做法，是在選擇婚宴的菜單時不再加入魚翅，讓一對新人帶頭改變長輩們吃魚翅的習慣。

Claudia Li說，有其他組織宣傳不吃魚翅，但其方法好像說教，以及缺乏對中餐美食文化的了解，很難引起共鳴，這次以新人為宣傳目標，希望能夠奏效。

凡在今年5月10日至12月31日結婚及舉行婚宴，年齡在19歲以上的大溫地區新人，只要提交婚宴上不用魚翅的證明及相關資料，便有機會被投票選中，獲得旅遊墨西哥及與鯊魚暢泳的機會。

若是大溫以外的參加者，會被列入國際組別，有機會贏得水底數碼相機及領養一條鯊魚。

該行動得到食評家以希(Stephanie Yuen)的支持，她認為華人是時候改變吃魚翅的文化。

查詢詳情可瀏覽網址﹕www.sharktruth.com。


http://www.mingpaovan.com/htm/News/20100326/vas1h.htm

Save Harry please!!!
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 09:42

Also news from the Province about Shark Truth and Ken's Chinese Restaurant taking sharkfin out of their menu!!! yeah!!!

http://www.theprovince.com/techn ... /2723873/story.html
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2010-3-26 09:54

Good wor ...

By the way, how come chinese people love shark fin so much?

Is it healthy somehow?
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 09:56

Definitely good  news!

I also notice the Chinese restaurant inside HK Jockey Club already substitute 發菜 with something else. Good for the environment!
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 10:00

Good wor ...

By the way, how come chinese people love shark fin so much?

Is it healthy somehow? ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-3-26 09:54 AM

no... it's just to show that they can afford expensive dishes...
If the soup base is done right soup can be as tasty without shark fin. Shark fin doesn't really add any favor to the soup.
作者: daimo    時間: 2010-3-26 10:06

to make this whole thing to work ... the restaurants need to invent the next $$$ dish which is environmentally friendly to replace sharkfin soup.  if it's not $$$ then it's a shame for a lot of Chinese families.  May it be the King Crab?

it's the "you are cheap without sharkfin soup" perception we need to battle against.
作者: news    時間: 2010-3-26 10:07

若是大溫以外的參加者，會被列入國際組別，有機會贏得水底數碼相機及領養一條鯊魚。


where can you actually pet your shark? hahah
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 10:17

回復 6# daimo
good point!!!
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-26 10:18

Also news from the Province about Shark Truth and Ken's Chinese Restaurant taking sharkfin out of th ...
布小熊 發表於 2010-3-26 09:42


Feel so proud of Ken's restaurant's owner! Not many Chinese restaurants are willing to give up such profit making opportunity! Just for that, I will be giving them more of my business!
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2010-3-26 10:18

support!
作者: daimo    時間: 2010-3-26 10:23

and the next thing is to lobby TV food show producers NOT to show any sharkfin soup in their shows.  

you will be surprised how much of the general public's value system is set by the TV.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2010-3-26 10:27

I am thinking the other way ..  

If willing to spend more, can use birdnest to replace sharkfin for soup ...  taste better too ..
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-3-26 10:28

just curious. next time if you happened to go to one of ur best friend chinese style wedding and they offered shark fin soup in front of u, will u eat it?
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 10:36

just curious. next time if you happened to go to one of ur best friend chinese style wedding and the ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-26 10:28 AM

NO!
I haven't been eating shark fin soup at wedding banquets for quite a few years already.
No one will force me to eat it. And I get a chance to explain it to guests at my table as well.
BTW! I am so happy that my bf and recently my best friend has decided not to eat shark fin as well. (my family did that 2 years ago!)
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-26 10:36

Really good! Support!!
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-26 10:38

just curious. next time if you happened to go to one of ur best friend chinese style wedding and the ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-26 10:28

Me? Nope! I know maybe many people will think "Oh well, since I paid for the banquet..." or "The bowl of shark fin soup is already been served...", so they eat it finally. But my principle is principle.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2010-3-26 10:41

just curious. next time if you happened to go to one of ur best friend chinese style wedding and the ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-26 10:28



   
Well, if it is there, I will eat ... but I won't order la..
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-3-26 10:42

fibbi, im NOT challenging u here. for some occasions like wedding maybe just once in ur life time. im trying to see this from a different perspective.
http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/re ... 7415&ptid=13271
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-3-26 10:48

i dun think ALL chinese try to show off but may consider it as one of the 美食
as a friend/family, they just want to treat you nice.
作者: daimo    時間: 2010-3-26 10:52

i dun think ALL chinese try to show off but may consider it as one of the 美食
as a friend/family, t ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-26 10:48



it's more of a peer pressure, IMO.
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-26 11:02

回復 20# daimo

Yes, peer pressure. Actually, at a wedding, it's more like parents pressure. Just like with other things such as using chinese style or wester wedding or using rounds or long tables, we don't often have a saying on...
Parents, even they support your decision not to eat shark fins, they will have to face their family friends/guests' questioning and possibily be the talk for many years to come! So i totally understand for most traditional chinese families how hard it is to give up this tradition....

Maybe another decade ba?
作者: samsung    時間: 2010-3-26 11:02

與鯊魚暢泳? what an idea!!!
so we dun eat shark and give the sharks a chance to eat us?
作者: samsung    時間: 2010-3-26 11:04

Definitely good  news!

I also notice the Chinese restaurant inside HK Jockey Club already substitut ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-26 09:56

I just attended a birthday banquet.. they served fake shark fins (of course they won't tell u it's fake), so it's also supporting this idea in a certain way?
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-26 11:04

I think it's more like a combination of culture, peer pressure, and maybe show off too. More or less having shark fin in wedding banquet is a "must" in many Chinese people's mind. It's something like our traditional tea ceremony, it seems like a "must" too. That's why they try to educate the younger generations now, hope it works.
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 11:07

回復 18# habitrailspace


    Yes my mom loves shark fin. But as I said, I don't order it if I go out dining on my own. And I'm happy to see people become more aware of impact on over-eating shark fin.

I guess you think there is a problem displaying a picture of it? Just like...if you are veggie if I show a picture of meat dishes then there is a problem? hm...
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-26 11:13

fibbi, im NOT challenging u here. for some occasions like wedding maybe just once in ur life time. i ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-26 10:42


ouch!
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-26 11:24

本帖最後由 tofu 於 2010-3-26 11:31 編輯

Ken's restaurant 南軒- what a joke, how many will order shark fin at ken's restaurant.  it is not a place to eat shark fin.
it is not even a place for chinese style big  party
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-26 11:27

回復  habitrailspace


    I guess you think there is a problem displaying a picture of it? Just like...if you are veggie if I show a picture of meat dishes then there is a problem? hm...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-26 11:07

Hmm.... My guess, what he wanted to say was, if you support people not eating shark, then you yourself shouldn't eat it, no matter the dish is ordered by you or not?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-26 11:27

Ken's restaurant - what a joke, how many will order shark fin at ken's restaurant.  it is not a plac ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-26 11:24



where is ken's restaurant? or what is its name in chinese ?
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-26 11:28

回復 25# fibbi

just wonder will you tell your mum not to order your portion since you don't want to eat it.  and then explain to your mum not to have it?
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 11:31

Ken's restaurant - what a joke, how many will order shark fin at ken's restaurant.  it is not a plac ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-26 11:24 AM

I think it's a good start regardless. Stop it one bowl and one restaurant at a time... It will take years to get it but... every bowl counts!
I just hope this will eventually get to bigger Chinese restaurants. And I am hoping that famous chefs will create tasty and exquisite dishes to replace that "position" of shark fin soup.

btw... shark doesn't really like to eat ppl... They attack some ppl (which the rate isn't really high...) cos they mistaken them as fish or seal. I don't know why we think that human being is tastier than other meat.

Personally, it was harder for me to give up bluefin tuna (which I did) than shark fin.
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 11:37

Just to clarify, I do start the topic with parents that eating sharkfin is not good...And you don't want to know how badly the conversation ends. But I do tell her to order less portion. Picture shows my mom's "bowl", which I had a spoon of it.
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-26 11:40

for me this is just their marketing strategic.  the % of  revenue from shark fin should be relatively small?  none?  make such big announcement for removing an unpopular item from your menu
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 11:41

I agree that blue fin tuna is just yummy~~~~that I already give up~~
But shark fin...is like part of the culture and it's hard to change what parents or older generation thinks. All I can do is that I don't order it myself, and then to tell my kid (if I have) to not eat it as well.
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-26 11:42

Ken's restaurant 南軒- what a joke, how many will order shark fin at ken's restaurant.  it is not a  ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-26 11:24


You're right! Their food are only so-so.
I don't even recall they have shark fins in the menu. Maybe they did but I didn't notice. If they don't sell a lot of it, this may even but just a publicity for them. However, I hope this will trigger others to do the same. Nontheless, it's a good start.

Sorry, out of topic:
I just want to make it clear that I believe in Choices. Encouragment is prefered over Enforcement. I don't eat lamb but I am not against others who do. So I hope people who prefer not to eat fins won't make others feel inadequet.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-26 11:46

You're right! Their food are only so-so.
I don't even recall they have shark fins in the menu. May ...
zuesel 發表於 2010-3-26 11:42



Maybe the next restaurants who gonna declare that they will give up shark-fin soup from their menu are 九記, 麗都 or MacDonald
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 11:51

Just to clarify, I do start the topic with parents that eating sharkfin is not good...And you don't  ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-26 11:37 AM

believe me, it took YEARS before I can convience my mom to stop buying, cooking, ordering and eating shark fin.
So I understand. But do little baby steps to change them actually worked for me! So it may work for you too.
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 11:57

本帖最後由 fibbi 於 2010-3-26 11:59 編輯
believe me, it took YEARS before I can convience my mom to stop buying, cooking, ordering and eatin ...
布小熊 發表於 2010-3-26 11:51



    I don't see my parents as often now. Whenever I see them (like once a year) and when they want to treat me a nice meal (or vice versa), I don't want to begin a topic that I'm not going to eat this or that ..or...eating sharkfin is not good.....And getting reply like " 我仲食得幾多年。。。"...
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 12:00

Maybe the next restaurants who gonna declare that they will give up shark-fin soup from their men ...
chunsh 發表於 2010-3-26 11:46 AM

Take a look at menus around. I was surprised that so many small restaurants actually DO serve shark fin. And so many restaurants include shark fin in their set menu as well....
(well not McD or No. 9 or congee noodle house la... )

I also respect ppl's choice. A lot of my friends still eat shark fin and they are actually happy that they got my extra bowl from sitting next to me at wedding banquet. I just want them to know (slowly) and hopefully make their choice.
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 12:08

I don't see my parents as often now. Whenever I see them (like once a year) and when they wan ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-26 11:57 AM

well... I understand. If you only see them once in a year....there is no way that you can change their mind at the 1 single meal.

May be easier to influence your friends!
作者: B仔    時間: 2010-3-26 12:08

我愛人嘅婆婆仲誇張。。。
出街食飯一定要食翅架～
我唔係講緊SPECIAL OCCASSION／晚宴／婚宴。。。
係如果你同佢出街食餐便飯，佢都要食翅～

就算唔係PART OF 挽救鯊魚團體嘅人都好，我諗起都想爆一爆粗 WTF
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 12:10

回復 40# 布小熊


    Well at least I made an effort to try bringing that topic w/ parents. But I don't want to force them la (I can't too).
作者: daimo    時間: 2010-3-26 12:20

[quote]我愛人嘅婆婆仲誇張。。。
出街食飯一定要食翅架～
我唔係講緊SPECIAL OCCASSION／晚宴／婚宴。。。
係如 ...
B仔 發表於 2010-3-26 12:08 [/quote

tell her that mercury in the sharkfins can kill her ...
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-26 12:27

If just talking for the taste, anything could taste better than shark fin cuz it's simply tasteless.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-26 12:32

回復 2# 布小熊

Good PR job for Ken's
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-26 12:52

回復  布小熊


    Well at least I made an effort to try bringing that topic w/ parents. But I don' ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-26 12:10

Yes, good that at least you tried. I also agree encouragement is better than enforcement.

I successfully convinced my parents stop buying and eating shark fin some time ago. Yeah it takes time but worth to try!
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2010-3-26 13:49

just curious. next time if you happened to go to one of ur best friend chinese style wedding and the ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-26 10:28


I didn't eat it in my friend's wedding....and it is a good time to educate others (but seems like not all of them will be convinced)
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2010-3-26 13:53

Good that my whole family (parents) are not that into Shark Fin anymore ... (grand parents .. may be!)

作者: siumaibb    時間: 2010-3-26 13:59

You're right! Their food are only so-so.
I don't even recall they have shark fins in the menu. May ...
zuesel 發表於 2010-3-26 11:42


zuesel, it is not about taste and it is beyond 愛護動物 too, it is about 生態環景, shark is at the top level of their food chain, if we over hunt sharks, the food chain will be broken. ALL living creatures depends on the ocean to survive (directly or indirectly) if the food chain broken, the ocean will be screwed, so it is a bigger problem then you can imagine.

more info
http://www.sharkwater.com/
http://www.savingsharks.com/
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-26 13:59

I didn't eat it in my friend's wedding....and it is a good time to educate others (but seems like  ...
siumaibb 發表於 2010-3-26 13:49


be honest, a stranger from the same table keeps talking about how bad is eating something while i am enjoy that thing, i will be really mad because i will believe that person is try to embarrass me.  then i will have"black face" for the rest of the wedding dinner.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-26 14:03

本帖最後由 chunsh 於 2010-3-26 14:04 編輯
be honest, a stranger from the same table keeps talking about how bad is eating something while i  ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-26 13:59


no need to get mad, if someone do that, go ask "ok so u dont drink shark-fin soup. Great!! Can I haz your bowl of soup????"
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-26 14:11

be honest, a stranger from the same table keeps talking about how bad is eating something while i  ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-26 13:59



I agree it's not the right timing to preach the people while they are enjoying their food. It's like if a vegetarian keep on telling me how bad eating meat is when I am eating my steak, I am sure I want to kill him too!

I support not eating shark fin, but we have to work on it step by step, don't be aggressive. What I can do now:

1. I don't eat shark fin, I don't order anything with shark fin
2. I kindly refuse to eat food contains shark fin if someone order it
3. Tell my friends and family I don't eat shark fin and the reason why
4. Showing support for friends who don't eat shark fin.
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-26 14:14

If more and more people don't eat shark fin in wedding banquets, people can see it. In a long run there will be more couples stop serving shark fin because it's just a waste if you pay for shark fin but your guests are not touching them right?
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-26 14:17

回復 49# siumaibb

huh? i didn't say anything about taste of food wor.
I think you misunderstood la.

I am simply stating IMO, Ken's restaurant's food isn't great but I will go to support NO shark fin being served there.
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-26 14:23

本帖最後由 布小熊 於 2010-3-26 14:26 編輯
I agree it's not the right timing to preach the people while they are enjoying their food.
khaki 發表於 2010-3-26 02:11 PM

Yes, I don't usually go on and on about not eating shark fin.
I just tell the server to scoop one less bowl or put mine up in the lazy susy (not sure if that's the name or the round rotating thing) and tell ppl that there is an extra bowl.

If someone ask, I will just tell them that I don't eat shark fin cos they are near extinction.
The only time that I had a longer chat about it was because another friend of the bride and groom whom happened to sit next to me didn't eat shark fin too. So we had some conversation about it among the 2 of us... (not trying to annouce it to the whole table)

embarrassing guests isn't really my goal...

btw... shark fin soup at most restaurants is MSG loaded. I used to feel sick after eating it.
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-26 14:26

Actually I have no interest on shark fin soup since I was a kid, I always gave my bowl to mom and dad.

I agree to Catpiano, substitute shark fin to bird's nest, I will be very happy hahaha
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 14:31

Substituting shark fin to bird nest isn't that good either...number of bird goes down because they got no where to stay... (no nest)...
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-26 14:34

Substituting shark fin to bird nest isn't that good either...number of bird goes down because they g ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-26 14:31


really? I thought those birds live in 人工燕窩山???? oops.... good I am not filthy rich enough to eat them often
作者: Prelude    時間: 2010-3-26 14:42

I have no special preference on eating the shark fin. but I think extinction of species are part of the nature.  The world ends is part of the nature as well.  Extinction of one specie might help other species to grow as well.  You should only do so much to interfere the nature.

If you are really into the idea of eating responsibly, then you should only eat farmed stuff, instead of anything natural.   Like, you should only eat farmed(chemically enhanced) salmon instead of other kind of salmon.  Everything you eat should be farmed.  But at the same time, you should think about these farmed food, they should be let go as well, they have their will to live instead of being stuck in a small tank or area.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-26 14:43

回復 57# fibbi

Not the cultivated one,
in Indonesia and Thailand, people build special giant house
for those swallows, it is getting very expensive, $1,500 a pound wholesale price
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-26 14:52

Substituting shark fin to bird nest isn't that good either...number of bird goes down because they g ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-26 14:31



provided that some environmental protection group mentioned that eating Red meat will harm the world (when peeople who ate lots of red meat fart, the fart contains the substance that harm the world, rise up the temperature of the world), and provided that  if we are only eating crops, the price of the corps will rise and the people in the third world countries will have not enough $$ to eat and survive.


there is only one way to solve the problem, we quickly evolve in a stage that we can do photosynthesis
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-26 14:56

回復 58# khaki


    I never heard of 人工燕窩山 ... dunno about bird nests can be cultivated too...In that case I guess it's ok to eat?
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2010-3-26 15:05

回復  siumaibb

huh? i didn't say anything about taste of food wor.
I think you misunderstood la.

...
zuesel 發表於 2010-3-26 14:17


umm, I was just replying to your lamb example. Anyway, I am not going join this discussion further, 咁多位打搞晒。
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-26 15:24

回復 63# siumaibb

It's ok. Discussions can get very heated. Everyone has their own viewpoints and opinions. Arguments happen when people try to be convincing while the other party doesn't welcome it. I leave without comments sometimes too, especially religious related topics.
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-26 16:05

回復 63# siumaibb

i don't mean 'you'.  i just try to say what will my reaction be in a general case.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-26 16:45

回復 62# fibabi

Bird's nest is more a "belief" remedy,
it is true that it is high in protein, but you can get protein elsewhere.
The University of  Boston Medical School has done a 5 years study on
Chinese medicine, and the result is that the contain very little nutrient
other than protein. A standard dose of bird nest would be equivalent to
the protein from 3 regular eggs without the cholesterol.
Yes, the rich C9 would claim that eating  it would keep them young
作者: biggie    時間: 2010-3-26 21:16

I was in hk for Christmas. During the time attended lots of banquets and they served shark fin soup every time. I just gave my to other people to eat and other people look at me weird..
作者: Sakura    時間: 2010-3-28 16:55

Yes!! I support!!!
I stopped eating shark fin after watching Shark Water~
My bf and I r planning to get marry and we said we won't be serving shark fin soup..
We were so worry that our parents and relatives would think we're not 大體 or 冇錢..
So we decided to maybe just serve western even tho it's more expensive...
Maybe now we will just say we can get a ticket to go swim with sharks~ lol~

Altho I reli dun think I would want to do that..
I just wanna support not eating shark fin~ lol~
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-28 17:02

回復 68# Sakura


   Not if you are serving All Bird's Nest Feast,
   will cost you $3,000-$4,500 a table easily;
   and no one will dare to call you cheap
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-28 19:52

回復  Sakura


   Not if you are serving All Bird's Nest Feast,
   will cost you $3,000-$4,500 a t ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-3-28 17:02



    Then all LYK will be willing to be invited lol
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-29 15:49

woo!! Just read from the Shark Truth FB page that:
Couples can send in their photo/video pledge to Stop the Soup. The entry with the most votes will win a trip to Mexico to swim with whale sharks - the biggest fish in the world!

OMG OMG I love whale sharks. They are beautiful and they don't bite. They live on plankton.
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-29 16:04

回復 66# somewhereintime

I consulted my Chinese Dr. about this. He said they are good for women in promoting female hormone.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-29 16:06

回復 72# zuesel
   
So you can eat more
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-29 16:08

回復 72# zuesel


   ho ho...I just had big bowl of bird nest last week! haha
Wish I can have it everyday ! dreaming~~~
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-29 16:12

回復  zuesel


   ho ho...I just had big bowl of bird nest last week! haha
Wish I can have it ev ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-3-29 16:08


Try to make us envy?
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-29 16:14

回復  somewhereintime

I consulted my Chinese Dr. about this. He said they are good for women in promoting female hormone.
zuesel 發表於 2010-3-29 16:04

As I thought, guys don't need to eat bird's nest. Unless......... they want to be........... LOL
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-29 16:23

Actually, I don't eat bird's nest regardless of its benefit.
Do they even taste good? I find it tasteless. Maybe I should try some of fibbi's!
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-29 16:28

回復 77# zuesel

It is rather bland, most rich C9 steam it in papaya for breakfast
everyday.
Or make a soup with Chinese ham
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-29 16:43

回復 77# zuesel
I found it taste like bird.. I acutally don't like the smell of bird from it.
May be the one I had wasn't high quality enough. (never eat those from the jar)
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-29 16:58

回復 77# zuesel


    I think bird nest has no taste. That's why need to go with almond or coconut juice or with papaya.
I just "hope" to have good skin gee mah!!!  

I don't cook it myself la...my friend does. He said that the "cooking" part is easy...the "cleaning part" (i.e. picking the feather) is not difficult either...just time consuming.
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-29 17:01

Let's get back to reality la!

How about discuss:

What can we substitute if we don't want to serve shark fin soup at wedding banquet? You know, it gotta be something "not too cheap" and presentable la lol
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-29 17:02

woo!! Just read from the Shark Truth FB page that:

OMG OMG I love whale sharks. They are beautiful  ...
布小熊 發表於 2010-3-29 15:49



    Get married lor kekekekekekekeke I will vote you
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-29 17:10

How about abalone black chicken soup or abalone water duck soup? In which everyone has a whole 4-headed abalone in their own bowl. lol
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-29 17:10

Get married lor kekekekekekekeke I will vote you
khaki 發表於 2010-3-29 05:02 PM

gum do duk
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-3-29 17:30

Let's get back to reality la!

How about discuss:

What can we substitute if we don't want to s ...
khaki 發表於 2010-3-29 17:01

You can replace it with blue fin tuna. The Japanese like it, hahaha.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-29 17:40

回復 83# chowB

Roast Free-Run Chicken Stuffed with Dried Abalones
Thank you for $1,000 a chicken
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-29 18:22

Or shrimp paste crab claws coated with gold leaf, look like golden lollipops kakakaka
作者: khaki    時間: 2010-3-29 18:24

Seriously if I were the bride I will serve cheaper soup and upgrade other dishes.... maybe a whole sea cucumber each table
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-29 22:22

How about abalone black chicken soup or abalone water duck soup? In which everyone has a whole 4-hea ...
chowB 發表於 2010-3-29 17:10



yes we don't care about much about if abalone has nerve or not and abalone doesnt have red blood like sharks, but if all chinese, eventually or sudden, switch to eat abalone in wedding banquet............
let me ask u something, is abalone part of the food chain?
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-30 01:28

yes we don't care about much about if abalone has nerve or not and abalone doesnt have red blood  ...
chunsh 發表於 2010-3-29 22:22

Did you watch any movie or video about shark fining before you comment ah? People cut off all the fins from the sharks and throw the leftover bodies back into the water and let them sitting on the bottom of the sea wait to die. Do people take the abalone off from the shell and cut off the skirt of the abalones and throw them back into the water?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-30 06:17

本帖最後由 chunsh 於 2010-3-30 06:19 編輯
Did you watch any movie or video about shark fining before you comment ah? People cut off all the f ...
chowB 發表於 2010-3-30 01:28



I know how they did to the shark. Let me ask you a question, do u eat beef/pork/lamb?
People killing them in the so-called 仁慈 way, but if u like eat those meat, will u still like to observe how does a goat, pig, cow have their throat got cut-off?


I wonder if anyone here eat geese liver. the way the farmer treat the geese for their livers are not any better than people treating the sharks. I feel strange that no 食肉的愛心人士 here come out and speak for the geese
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-30 06:24

回復 89# chunsh

Back in 80's, live abalone was so cheap($4.00 per pound) in Vancouver,
the Chinese cleared the market, lead to the almost extinct of the species
and it became illegal to catch abalone in BC.  30 years elapsed and the
damage has not recover. It was caused by Asian, mostly Chinese.
In fact, I think Chinese is the only race obsessed with abalone, Japanese
use few abalone for sashima. The rest of the world? most people never
try in their lifetime.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-30 06:57

回復  chunsh

Back in 80's, live abalone was so cheap($4.00 per pound) in Vancouver,
the Chinese cl ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-3-30 06:24


maybe u didnt join the last "battle" about shark fin last time so u may not know what I prefer. let me tell u, I dont agree that we should get the shark-fin in that cruel way. what about.....keeping the shark as live-stock? or consume the whole shark and give them a "quick one" when we take them?
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-3-30 07:34

what about.....keeping the shark as live-stock? or consume the whole shark and give them a "quick one" when we take them?
chunsh 發表於 2010-3-30 06:57


agree. then shark fin might not be that expensive anymore. just like regular fish and anyone can enjoy. happy ending.
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-30 07:50

本帖最後由 布小熊 於 2010-3-30 07:52 編輯
maybe u didnt join the last "battle" about shark fin last time so u may not know what I prefer. le ...
chunsh 發表於 2010-3-30 06:57 AM

Do you guys know that part of the problem is about the rate they catch and kill the sharks? (cos they only take the fin, so one boat can hunt hundreds of shark vs less than 100) And how slow shark grows? Because of lack of regulation/re-enforcement, some boat even hunt in the ocean reserve area. So if "free" hunting is an option, do you think anyone (if that's even possible) would consider farming them?

Studying of shark is still limited and because of their scary image, it's harder to get funding to study and protect them. (vs Panda and dolphins)

Yes, I don't like how cruel they cut the fin and let the shark drown and die. But the problem is about how wasteful this fining process is. And catching rate vs shark growing and recover rate.
Think of sea turtles legs.... what if they suddenly becomes a popular cuisine.

If they can farm abalone without seriously damaging the enviornment, I don't mind having that at wedding banquet.
作者: daimo    時間: 2010-3-30 08:07

i can imagine such a scene:

my grandson is in school, and the teacher shows a video in school telling them these are now extinct spieces.

then one non-chinese kid yells out:  The Chinese ate them all!
作者: chowB    時間: 2010-3-30 10:56

本帖最後由 chowB 於 2010-3-30 10:59 編輯
I know how they did to the shark. Let me ask you a question, do u eat beef/pork/lamb?
People kill ...
chunsh 發表於 2010-3-30 06:17

chunsh, cool down sin la. The way fining shark fin is different to killing other animals for meat, people just cut off the fins from sharks and leave them to die in hours and days, cow & sheep & chicken etc die in seconds. Another thing is the food chain, for how many shark being killed will break the chain, and for how many cow and chicken being kill will? People only challenge those people feel passion and mercy on particular species of animals but not others. But they don't think about it in another way, actually it's for our own human sake, we want to keep our earth in shape longer. People have freedom to keep eating shark fin, not turning off power in earth hour day, keep paying dollars for buying plastic bags at shop instead of BYOB etc. I cannot do anything, I just do what I feel it's better, to myself and to the earth jeh.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-30 11:04

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-3-30 11:09 編輯

What happen to the grizzy bears,
they get killed for their galls then left for other animals' feast
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-3-30 11:13

What happen to the grizzy bears,
they get killed for their galls then left for other animals' feast
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-3-30 11:04 AM

I think we have hunting restriction for that. But I am not sure how good is the re-enforcement done.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2010-3-30 11:14

chunsh, cool down sin la. The way fining shark fin is different to killing other animals for meat,  ...
chowB 發表於 2010-3-30 10:56



Thats why I suggest "farming" the sharks
but people just blindly say "no shark fin! no shark fin" LOL



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