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作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-30 21:54     標題: 毒奶粉維權家長無辜被控 

現年 37歲的趙連海,曾任記者。他的兒子前年食用含有三聚氰胺的三鹿奶粉後患腎結石,讓他走上維權路。他組織結石寶寶之家網站,並帶領受害者家人抗議,並在去年 11月被公安帶走,控以尋釁滋事罪。但當局昨日的指控,隻字未提毒奶粉事件。控方的起訴書指出,趙連海於 2008年 9月至去年 9月期間,先後在河北、北京等地的公共場所,呼喊口號、非法聚集,嚴重擾亂社會秩序;去年 8月,藉安徽上訪女子李蕊蕊在北京被強暴一案,與民眾到北京市公安局大門東側聚集。趙連海在自辯書中強調,他是毒奶粉事件的受害者,出面維權、保障兒子生命健康是「合理合法且理性文明」,控方所指控的「非法聚集,呼喊口號,起哄鬧事,都是無中生有的事情。」至於被指藉李蕊蕊案聚集,趙稱他只是協助李女到公安局報案,並認為這是「極其正常並屬於見義勇為的報案」,竟被指控為「煽動糾集多人起哄鬧事」,讓他心痛。他堅信所做的一切都是身為一名公民應擔當的一份責任,希望他的努力能讓社會有進步。而當日與趙一起維權的劉沙沙昨到法院聲援


「爸爸!爸爸!」「趙連海!趙連海!……」內地三鹿毒奶粉受害家長聯盟、結石寶寶之家的創辦人趙連海,被當局控以尋釁滋事罪,案件昨在北京市大興區法院閉門審理,其間趙的妻子李雪梅和 5歲大兒子,與他分隔逾四個月後,因仍無法與他見一面,情緒十分激動,隔着欄杆向囚車裏的趙連海大喊,趙妻更一度想衝入法院,被公安阻止。趙妻慨嘆,不明白為何受害人會變被告!

除趙連海的妻兒,昨日有近 40名支持者到場聲援,他們身上都綁有象徵支持的黃絲帶,高舉結石寶寶照片、以及「法律!?!」「正義!?!」「民生!?!」等標語支援趙。趙的 5歲兒子更拿出一張只有 A4紙大小的標語,寫着「我愛爸爸」、「爸爸回家」。

法院昨日戒備森嚴,除法院外圍停滿公安車輛,法院大門也拉上鐵閘,一批戴着頭盔的公安看守築起人牆,不准任何人進入。法院亦以案件涉及女訪民李蕊蕊被強姦案和涉及個人隱私為由,閉門審理。李雪梅及支持者均要求入庭旁聽,都被職員阻止,也不准她與丈夫見面。李雪梅怒批:「我很質疑不公開審理,因為毒奶粉事件發生了很長時間,這是一個事實,我不知道他們怕甚麼,在迴避甚麼!」其間母子二人曾追着押送趙連海的囚車,邊哭邊喊,情緒相當激動。李更喊得上氣不接下氣,放聲大罵當局無良:「你們太殘忍了,你們這麼對待受害者,喪盡天良」。她一度想衝入法院,但被公安趕回法院外。激動的支持者更怒罵在場公安:「你們是集團幫兇!你們是犯罪分子!」「我們是受害者,挺難過的,現在那麼多孩子,問題還未有解決,他們(當局)根本就不正視問題,卻還來打壓我們,不理解。」李雪梅對當局禁止他們一家人見面,感到十分不滿。

中共領導層並未真正追究與三鹿毒奶粉案有關高官的政治責任,遑論法律責任。引咎辭職的國家質檢總局局長李長江已復出,擔任全國掃黃打非領導小組專職副組長;三鹿毒奶粉氾濫之際主政河北的省長胡春華,已升任內蒙古區委書記。高官們都沒有錯,反而希望為孩子們討回公道的趙連海等結石寶寶的家長們就有罪?雖然當局百般壓制報章、網絡對趙連海事件的報道,但是,良心不死,民心不死,輿論不死。湖南《瀟湘晨報》在北京開庭審訊趙連海前夕,專訪結石寶寶的家長,披露他們為醫治女兒結石一年花了 9萬元的慘況。這位家長談及趙連海時說:「通過趙,自己懂得了很多東西,希望他能夠沒事。」相比傳媒的隱諱聲援,網絡上力挺趙連海的文帖、網誌,更顯得理直氣壯,還有不少能夠避過論壇版主的刀斧。維權人士劉沙沙在天涯社區的文帖〈一個結石寶寶父親──趙連海這一年〉,自周日上傳後,網民一直擔心被刪,但直至昨晚仍倖存。網民不斷地頂帖:「為了良心,頂!」「為了下一代,頂!」「為了正義,頂!」這種發自內心的呼聲,豈是當局所能封殺的?趙連海這類良心犯,豈是當局所能抓得完的?
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-30 21:57

回復 1# tofu


    Try to search it in Baidu
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-30 22:00

回復 2# somewhereintime

i am not that stupid, i won't waste my time to do this impossible job ar.
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-3-30 22:14

要清算的人,太多太多了。
良心何在?
作者: AAC    時間: 2010-3-31 05:27

埋沒良知, 與民為敵的政府 ?
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2010-3-31 08:41

Too high profile? Chinese government is like those 死要面老人家, if you make them look bad, no matter what you do, you will get punished anyway.
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-3-31 09:25


作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-3-31 10:25

看到这个起诉书,我不禁流泪!三聚氰胺奶粉事件,政府一直没有给出一个让人信服的答复,上百万受害儿童和家长因为没有得到治疗和赔偿一直在哭泣!而这个坚强的北方汉子一直坚强不屈的带领大家做理性而合法的抗争,没有想到,千年以后的中国,毋须有的罪名还是如此“光明正大”!李长江大人复出了,三聚氰胺奶粉也复出了,而赵连海却进去了!我操~
   
    而李蕊蕊案件已经查明审理,施暴者已经被法律制裁!什么叫“寻衅滋事”!难道见到这样的事情,作为一个公民就不应该过问一声吗?我也是李蕊蕊事件的参与者,如果赵连海有罪,那么我也是有罪的!如果没有赵连海的介入,李蕊蕊冤案会得到昭雪吗?我操!
   
   
   
    有人说:有什么事应该向管理部门反映,向国家机关反映或者报案,不要如此杰斯底里的搞!
   
   
   
    我操:要是理性合法的建议或者反映能够得到回复,我们需要这样往死里折腾自己吗?上千万访民难道吃了饭没有事做,有病?
   
    赵连海大哥,历史会记住你的,同时也不会忘记“它们”!
   
   
   
    你今天被邪恶可耻的法律光荣的审判,这是你的荣光!
   
    明天,正义有效的法律将把施恶者绞清算,这是历史的耻辱!中国的耻辱!
(2010/02/04 发表)

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Another download from Baidu
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 15:27

回復  tofu


    Try to search it in Baidu
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-3-30 21:57


I am 100% sure that you did not try to search it onBaidu before BS here.

Go to search it and see what you get..... Coward.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 15:29

回復  somewhereintime

i am not that stupid, i won't waste my time to do this impossible job ar. ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-30 22:00


You should try it out and make your own judgement.
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-31 15:31

yes,  you are right, i didn't search it.  but this is the news that i read today, do you think i still need to search it.


藝人梁詠琪( Gigi)的個人微博慘被「河蟹」。梁詠琪昨日在內地個人微博轉貼毒奶粉案維權爸爸趙連海被無理控告的報道,旋即被要求將文章刪除。梁詠琪事後留言說:「不公平的事還是不想再看到……尤其發生在平民百姓身上。」有學者相信,梁詠琪的微博瀏覽量高,內地官方擔心敏感報道會被大量轉載,所以急急封殺。

河蟹事件發生在昨日中午 12時許,剛度過 34歲生日的梁詠琪,原本在內地新浪網個人微博(微型博客、 micro blog),轉貼《蘋果日報》昨日關於內地毒奶粉受害家長維權代表趙連海被控的報道,但旋即被勒令「刪文」。然後在下午約 1時,梁在微博上貼文說:「內地有內地的規矩……好,我刪!但不公平的事還是不想再看到……尤其發生在平民百姓身上。」

刪文後梁詠琪心情無法平靜下來,高呼很有「火」。(上紅框)梁詠琪昨日中午在個人微博轉貼趙連海被控的報道後被要求刪文,她其後留言「不公平的事還是不想再看到……」。(下紅框)

梁詠琪的微博有接近 47萬名網民訂閱觀看,事件震撼中、港、台網民,瞬即引起廣泛討論,不少網民指「河蟹」出現,強迫她將毒奶粉的報道刪除。不少網民說:「 Gigi被河蟹了」、「還是慢慢適應這裏的規矩吧,我們都很悲劇了。」、「我也被限制了,只要提到『言論自由』四個字就被杯具(『悲劇』普通話諧音)了。」至昨晚 11時已有超過 800段留言,幾乎全部力撐梁詠琪及炮轟內地沒有言論自由。梁詠琪沒有就是否被河蟹進一步解釋,下午 2時許她再在微博貼文說:「我一向是個默默做事,默默耕耘,默默悲,默默喜的人。可現在的心情卻無法默默的平靜下來…不囉唆啦!約了人打球!我的對手今天應該不是我對手,因為我現在很有『火』,哈哈!」

中文大學政治與行政學系副教授馬嶽相信,梁的微博被刪文,主要是因為她轉載的新聞報道敏感,加上其微博瀏覽量太高,為免文章廣泛流傳,所以當局要急下殺手,「如果等多一日請示上司先刪,可能已經轉載咗唔知幾多次,負責網上監察嘅人唔想孭鑊,梗係刪咗先講。」他認為若梁拒絕就範,可能影響其內地演藝事業,「呢個世界唔係咁多間 Google公司,就算梁詠琪唔肯刪,佢唱片公司都會出手。」不過,梁詠琪經理人王小姐為事件降溫,她昨晚向本報說,主要是為免網民擔心而主動刪文,「 Gigi寫呢篇文章純粹抒發情緒,無政治動機,後來有歌迷叫佢唔好喺微博表達政治立場,佢咪順應民意刪除咗囉。」
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 16:12

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-3-31 16:15 編輯
yes,  you are right, i didn't search it.  but this is the news that i read today, do you think i sti ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-31 15:31


These are two different issues.

First, I did not deny the censorhip within China. You know about it and I certaintly know about it as well.

Second, I only point out what 阿Some哥 said about Buidu is just simply BS.

By the way, I still suggest you to do a search and find out what you get first before making further comments. I don't want to see you being like what the Some哥 did - BS on things and does not what he is BSing about, and made judgments on things that he does not know.
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 16:25

These are two different issues.

First, I did not deny the censorhip within China. You know about ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 16:12


你收嗲啦
呢度只有 SORRY 同 PETER 同你一擔擔
冇人會聽你支笛
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 16:29

你收嗲啦
呢度只有 SORRY 同 PETER 同你一擔擔
冇人會聽你支笛
sheep 發表於 2010-3-31 16:25


Why don't you put up the facts in front of me to make me 收嗲?

羊小丑,今晚上邊套節目? 洗唔洗送個花牌到場?
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 16:36

Why don't you put up the facts in front of me to make me 收嗲?

羊小丑,今晚上邊套節目? 洗唔洗送 ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 16:29



    你咁熟嘅?
啱啱響上便落泥呀
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 16:38

Why don't you put up the facts in front of me to make me 收嗲?

羊小丑,今晚上邊套節目? 洗唔洗送 ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 16:29



Fact? Is already there.  冇人會聽你支笛
got it?


唉

作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 16:43

Fact? Is already there.  冇人會聽你支笛
got it?


唉
sheep 發表於 2010-3-31 16:38


怕要面對現實?

鴕鳥政策,醒目!

作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 16:45

怕要面對現實?

鴕鳥政策!
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 16:43



    你講緊你自己
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 16:50

喂  講野喇
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-31 16:55

回復 12# rockypath

what i try to say is if they don't allow people to post or talk about it online, i don't believe they will let people to search for any information.  why don't you do some search and tell us what you find.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 16:57

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-3-31 17:00 編輯
回復  rockypath

what i try to say is if they don't allow people to post or talk about it online, i ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-31 16:55


I did, and did you?

Right, don't forget to search for the news about GiGi you just posted as well.

Don't make judgment on things based on what other people told you especially when they are biase on certain topics.
作者: news    時間: 2010-3-31 17:01

nice..way to ruin the thread again
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 17:06

I did, and did you?

Right, don't forget to search for the news about GiGi you just posted as well ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 16:57



    hey idiot, if you want to say something, say it to me
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 17:09

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-3-31 17:11 編輯
nice..way to ruin the thread again
news 發表於 2010-3-31 17:01


Unfortunatly, no one is able to stand up and challenge me.

I just put up the facts in front of people. Why cannot they take it? It is because they can only accept what they are willing to accept, read and hear what they are willing to read and hear?

They had claimed they are the Crusader of Truth and how true is that?

What about yourself?
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-31 17:09

ok. i just searched 趙連海. and here is the first link, take a look.  i do believe you will able to find somethings different than mine, but just because they don't act fast enough.  or those forums are not popular enough?  


http://bbs.cqupt.edu.cn/wForum/d ... naNews&ID=45138
作者: soli    時間: 2010-3-31 17:10

回復 17# rockypath

rockypath 君﹐如果你係想討論既話﹐建議你唔好回應sheep任何離題或人身攻擊既言論。
一條屎虫﹐雖然討厭﹐但你若打它﹐只會“越o禁越出屎”﹐整到周圍污糟晒。
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 17:10

hey idiot, if you want to say something, say it to me
sheep 發表於 2010-3-31 17:06


Haha, what do you expect me to have anything to say to a 小丑 who is mentally disabled.
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 17:12

Haha, what do you expect me to have anything to say to a 小丑 who is mentally disabled.
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 17:10


叫你講野 你就講
乖 真聽話
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 17:16

回復  rockypath

rockypath 君﹐如果你係想討論既話﹐建議你唔好回應sheep任何離題或人身攻擊既言論。
一 ...
soli 發表於 2010-3-31 17:10



    你知死哩
屎蟲係響屎裡邊搵到 同黐到
如果你唔係屎 唔會有蟲黐到
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 17:17

ok. i just searched 趙連海. and here is the first link, take a look.  i do believe you will able to  ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-31 17:09


Sorry, tofu. I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. I am just upset on those guys but not you. If they can put up facts to show me I am wrong, I will admit my mistake immediatly which I have always done on this forum if you have seem those poses in which I admited my mistake.

Back to the topic. Here is the link shows the serarch results.

http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%D5%D4 ... C&f=3&rsp=1
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 17:21

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-3-31 17:22 編輯

回復 25# tofu

By the way, we are expecting the Chinese government will take actions to block and clean up those forum or news.

I want to make it clear to you and other people on this forum is -- it is not because of Baidu cannot produce the search results and it is because of the censorship of China and its firewall.

Those guys who had attached on Baidu and BS about Baidu with no any ground on facts at all and this is another point I want to make. What you posted here actually proved what I said about Baidu, China firewall and censorship in China.
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-3-31 17:45

回復 31# rockypath

but baidu is the one who is willing to cooperate with china govn't to make china govn't easier to do their job.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-3-31 18:33

回復  rockypath

but baidu is the one who is willing to cooperate with china govn't to make china g ...
tofu 發表於 2010-3-31 17:45

China and Baidu are doing a good job to filter out things that will have negative effects on the society.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-3-31 18:34

叫你講野 你就講
乖 真聽話
sheep 發表於 2010-3-31 17:12

You stupid moron, just stop your nonsense.
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 19:45

You stupid moron, just stop your nonsense.
peter236 發表於 2010-3-31 18:34



     冇叫你講野 你搭咀
你真係買板唔知訂
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 20:01

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-3-31 20:03 編輯
Haha, what do you expect me to have anything to say to a 小丑 who is mentally disabled.
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 17:10



  
回復  rockypath

rockypath 君﹐如果你係想討論既話﹐建議你唔好回應sheep任何離題或人身攻擊既言論。
一 ...
soli 發表於 2010-3-31 17:10
呢 此君 EQ 就高過你 石仔路啦
SORRY 你唔狗噏 我唔會招呼你嘅
得閒 我唔好同老婆仔打情罵俏?
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 20:14

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-3-31 20:19 編輯
I believe they will challenge me again and it should keep me entertained for another two days.
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-30 23:42


Sorry, tofu. I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. I am just upset on those g ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 17:17



   Sorry, tofu. I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. I am just upset on those guys but not you
一陣又話你響我地面前有超然嘅感覺
一陣又話你好 UPSET BY US
夠竟 你知唔知你自己係思覺失調呀
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-3-31 20:39

Sorry, tofu. I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. I am just upset on  ...
sheep 發表於 2010-3-31 20:14


sheep, u must be very bored. where is purple heart?
wasting time here la
he didnt read the title & article properly
even grade5 can bypass those firewall as long as port80 is opened
dun talk 2 much, i cant go back to china (lol. sounds like MoJerJer)
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-3-31 20:45

sheep, u must be very bored. where is purple heart?
wasting time here la
he didnt read the title & ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-31 20:39



   講番啲開心野
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 21:21

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-3-31 21:24 編輯
he didnt read the title & article properly  ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-3-31 20:39


I would like to know whether you had read the article carefully.

You had quoted the article and emphasized that – “谷歌的聲明強調,提供未經審查的中文搜索內容,這種做法「完全合法」,但「中國政府已經非常明確地表示,審查是一項沒有商量餘地的法律要求。」谷歌唯有把搜尋服務轉至香港。”  

My question is – “based on the law of which country Google made that claim”? When you answer my question, then you will realize there is something wrong with this statement.

Just put your biases away and learn how to read what is written between lines. This is my 4th time to ask this question and you also don’t have the gut to answer it?
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-3-31 21:34

What's "river crab"?
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-3-31 22:06

回復 41# zuesel


    「河蟹」是一網絡用語,「和諧」的諧音,是出自並經常出現在中國大陸網絡上的網絡用語。由於中國共產黨推行「和諧社會」政策,並經常因此把中國大陸的負面消息或負面報道強行移除,或者是把其認為不良的、色情暴力的信息強行移除,例如整治互聯網低俗之風專項行動。於是大陸網民就以「河蟹」一詞代指封鎖、掩蓋負面消息、控制新聞和言論自由的行為,同時也有螃蟹「『橫行』(語帶雙關)霸道」的意思。[1]「水產」有時意思和「河蟹」相同。河蟹亦有抓捕之義,如河蟹你,指中國大陸用有關部門等相關權利將說出真相,或中國大陸不想公布的信息公布出來的人抓捕起來並給予莫須有之罪。[來源請求]

在中國大陸的部分論壇,「和諧」一詞本身已成為被封禁的關鍵詞。為了繞過這一屏蔽,網民以「河蟹」或者其他諧音代替。

From: http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hk/%E ... 7%94%A8%E8%AA%9E%29
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-3-31 22:17

呢條八公真係好撚煩
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-3-31 22:45

Well, since no one is able to face my challenge, I will explain why I asked this question.

First, if Google said it is based on the law of China, then it is impossible to claim its act of not complying with the censorship is legal.

Second, if Google said it is based on the law of America, then how would the law of America is applicable to China and the operation of google.cn is within China and under the jurisdiction of Chinese law.

The American law can only regulate what cannot be done overseas according to the American law since Google is an American company, but it cannot determine what can be done overseas since that is under the law of the country which Google operates within.

I just 以事論事, and I don’t understand why Google said that. At the meantime, I also welcome challenges.
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-3-31 23:12

中國法律。
中國沒有「新聞法」,filter唔filter完全係灰色地帶。
呢家用國安惡法夾硬乜都要filter。
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-4-1 07:37

Well, since no one is able to face my challenge, I will explain why I asked this question.

First, i ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 22:45



   番去問你阿媽
瞎子摸象呢個故事係講咩
唔識 我講比你聽
作者: zuesel    時間: 2010-4-1 07:53

回復 42# fibbi

sigh~ No freedom! basically it's dok choi jui yi! No wonder so many Chinese like to immigrate or "tau doe" out for the country for a better life la! It seems they are not being protected by their country as a citizen. If you can't even trust your governer to help protect you when you've been vitumized, how can you trust it for anything else? I think covering up the negative or concealing the truth doesn't mean problem won't exist anymore. Education and awareness is more effective.
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-4-1 07:57

Well, since no one is able to face my challenge, I will explain why I asked this question.

First, i ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-3-31 22:45

i "gift" u 4 words "朝令夕改" regarding that post
i dun want to reply to that thread. too many of ur personal attack (digging up somewhereintime's private life; not cool)
discussion is fun makes u think
there is no right or wrong but POV
grow up man. we're all lyk here.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-4-1 10:48

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-4-1 10:52 編輯
there is no right or wrong but POV ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-4-1 07:57


Now you said it is just point of view (POV). That is fine if you guys don’t claim what you said are the facts and attacked people who have a different POV.

Did you guys realize there is a big and powerful filter and firewall in your mind and only received the information that fits your personal preferences and made up judgment based on personal biases?

So don’t claim you guys are “正義衛士” again since you guys are NOT.
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-4-1 10:56

So don’t claim you guys are “正義衛士” again since you guys are NOT.
rockypath 發表於 2010-4-1 10:48

我從來都無諗過我自己係衛道之士;但從你所講果啲狗屁歪理,我只係知道石仔路你呢啲甘願為極權主意作奴才傀儡嘅類人賤過狗屎。

-力
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-4-1 11:05

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-4-1 11:17 編輯
我從來都無諗過我自己係衛道之士;但從你所講果啲狗屁歪理,我只係知道石仔路你呢啲甘願為極權主意作奴才 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-4-1 10:56


Did I say a word to defend CCP? I just put the facts in front of people so that they don't just listen to what you guys said. They should look at an issue from different perspectives and make their own judgments.  

What you said here just a confirmation of what I just posted above. You guys cannot face a different POV and attack poeple who have a different POV.

If what I said is 狗屁歪理, why don't you stand up and point out and correct my 狗屁歪理?
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-4-1 11:40

我從來都無諗過我自己係衛道之士;但從你所講果啲狗屁歪理,我只係知道石仔路你呢啲甘願為極權主意作奴才 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-4-1 10:56

hahaha, you just go back to your UK.




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