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作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-4-30 10:16 標題: 世博會大比併，中國落伍世界

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作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-4-30 10:45

Amazinc China

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-4-30 10:49

回復 1# mukmuk2

Do you mind to provide the reference of which media this article is from and who wrote tihs article?

This article sounds very biased and written with prejudgments.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-4-30 11:19

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作者: totori 時間: 2010-4-30 12:02

回復 3# rockypath

I don't think it is that bias or prejudge, unless what was said about 中國館 in the article is not true. I think it is good in a way that some Chinese do see where the problems are and hopefully it is wake up call for other Chinese.

作者: chunsh 時間: 2010-4-30 12:06

is that article implying that some people still dreaming that the country will become a big kingdom like in Tong Dynasty that they can invade the other countries (again)?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-4-30 13:08

mukmuk2 發表於 2010-4-30 11:19

這些網站
用BAIDU SEARCH 唔到咩？

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-4-30 13:12

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-4-30 13:14 編輯

正如李潔芝所講
APPLE 在美國設計
   在中國製造
   在美國推銷
   在中國銷售
中國人係為人地服務
繼續以世界工廠自居而驕傲

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-4-30 13:19

回復 3# rockypath

Why don't you and peter post some un-biased articles?
how are they different from the official press-release?

作者: soli 時間: 2010-4-30 15:02

雖然中國只是發展中國家﹐但其他人卻愛將中國跟發達國家相比。
某程度上這亦係好事。

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-4-30 15:21

but if you think this way.
every country presents her best. japan - technology, robot. china - artworks. if china is presenting a robot but it is not as good as the japanese one, will it be even worst? china just want to play safe.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-4-30 16:24

but if you think this way.
every country presents her best. japan - technology, robot. china - art ...
tofu 發表於 2010-4-30 15:21

display the American bonds, RMB castle and everyone entering China Pavilion will have a $10 RMB利是 WOW
That's China

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-4-30 16:26

正如李潔芝所講
APPLE 在美國設計
   在中國製造
   在美國推銷
   在中國銷售
中國人係為人 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-4-30 13:12

So what does Canada provides the world? Potash fertilizers from Saskatchewan?
What is your contribution to Chinese advancement? nothing?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-4-30 16:36

So what does Canada provides the world? Potash fertilizers from Saskatchewan?
What is your contribu ...
peter236 發表於 2010-4-30 16:26

起二乃村

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-4-30 17:33

So what does Canada provides the world? Potash fertilizers from Saskatchewan?
What is your contribu ...
peter236 發表於 2010-4-30 16:26

顧左右而言他。

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-4-30 17:40

係發展中國家就請用資源繼續發展，搞面子工程係一種倒退。

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-4-30 17:50

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-4-30 18:03 編輯

回復 rockypath

I don't think it is that bias or prejudge, unless what was said about 中國館 in th ...
totori 發表於 2010-4-30 12:02

I would not expect a creditable 新聞評論員 who are knowledgeable about China would write an article like this. Therefore, I asked for the source of the article and I was right. It is just a personal opinion someone posted on a public forum.

Why did I say this article judgemental with biases? There are more examples I can give but I just list two for demonstration.

First, the author expects China must demonstrate its technology advances in Expo like that Japan and US do; otherwise, China is looking backward and 在歷史廢墟中打轉. It is true that Expo has been a place for countries to display its technologies and national power and it was especially true 100 years ago when it was more a private party for powerful and advanced western countries.

Expo today contains a much broader contents than what it used to be. It is more a party for countries around the world to showcase themselves and let people to know more about them as a county and technologies is only one part of it along with arts, history, and culture.

Expo is like a party and attended guests decides what they want other people to know about them. Some can choose to show off its wealth and strength and some might choose to let people appreciate their beauty and talents.

Second, the author said the Chinese Center focuses on displaying Chinese history and arts and it indicates that 中國太在乎歷史的光輝，總在故紙堆裏翻找所謂的先進文化. I would like to ask the author whether he has knowledge about what “soft power” is and why the Chinese government recognizes it as an important piece to its strategy to establish its international influence.

I would take articles like this for entertainment reading only.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-4-30 17:55

SO call "soft power" is the weakest part of China, in fact.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-4-30 18:00

SO call "soft power" is the weakest part of China, in fact.
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-4-30 17:55

Can you explain what you mean?

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-4-30 18:23

do your own research, or ask MJJ

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-4-30 18:26

do your own research, or ask MJJ
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-4-30 18:23

I was expecting this kind of response from you.

I just gave you a chance to embarrass yourself in front of people. You speak nonsense and do not even know what you are speaking.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-4-30 18:30

go search for yourself what "soft power" is.
China is lagging behind on all catalogue.

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2010-4-30 18:36

"當然，中國人也不乏創造力，石灰麵粉、問題疫苗、毒奶粉、頭髮醬油等一系列「先進食品」，便是中國領先世界的「專利技術」。如果舉辦一次有毒食品世博會，中國館肯定能讓世界目瞪口呆."

LOL this is what I always say

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-4-30 18:45

go search for yourself what "soft power" is.
China is lagging behind on all catalogue.
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-4-30 18:30

Why does China establish 孔子學院 around the world?

You are just 只知其一，不知其二.

I understand articles like this make you feel excited and satisfied, but it also reflects the lack of knowledge and the ability for making objective judgments.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-4-30 18:46

嘩哈哈哈哈~~~~~~~~~笑死我了~~~

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-4-30 19:57

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作者: tofu 時間: 2010-4-30 22:24

阿倫狄龍昨日上午約 11時，乘坐專車到達法國館，而為該館出任魅力大使的中國知名影星鞏俐緊隨其後出現。 74歲的阿倫狄龍雖已一頭花髮，但風度、魅力依然；一襲黑褲、低胸上衣出現的鞏俐則散發高貴、優雅氣質。兩大國際巨星互行貼面禮，相談甚歡，並攜手參觀法國館的「鎮館之寶」──來自奧賽博物館（ Orsay Museum）的名畫和雕塑揭幕。
是次七件國寶全部均首次在法國境外展出，包括六幅印象派繪畫大師的作品，塞尚的《咖啡壺邊的婦女》、博納爾的《化妝間》、梵高的《阿爾的舞廳》、米勒的《晚鐘》、馬奈的《陽台》和高更的《餐點》（又名《香蕉》）；另外一件是羅丹的雕塑《青銅時代》。七件展品總值超過一億歐元（約 10.3億港元），投保超過 10億歐元（約 103億港元）。此前，因為冰島火山灰問題一直遲遲未能付運，最後趕及在世博開幕前到達上海。法國總統薩爾科齊昨日由北京轉抵上海，他接受內地傳媒專訪時稱，自己 2007年一上任就啟動法國館的建設，希望透過是次展覽向觀眾展現一個勇於創新、熱愛自己的文化、熱愛生活藝術的法國形象。他也希望世博會後，法國館能永久保留，作為中法友誼的見證。

so the above article can apply to france too?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-4-30 22:31

Why does China establish 孔子學院 around the world?

You are just 只知其一，不知其二.
rockypath 發表於 2010-4-30 18:45

Hahahahaha~

真係枉你連孔子學院呢啲咁垃圾嘅野都夠膽死儸出來講話當係 "soft power" 喎？難怪梅佬笑到甩肺啦～

-力

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-4-30 22:45

部份展館更精髓盡出，大派紀念品，包括法國香水、英國神奇植物種子、意大利 Salvatore Ferragamo皮鞋，參觀者隨時可以免費拿回家。

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-4-30 22:54

Hahahahaha~

真係枉你連孔子學院呢啲咁垃圾嘅野都夠膽死儸出來講話當係 "soft power" 喎？難怪梅佬笑到甩 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-4-30 22:31

I expect you do not like 孔子學院 at all.

My question is – “why does China establish孔子學院 around the world?”. So, what is your opinion on this? Do you any idea at all?

You are not making a legitimate discussion but just try to challenge me. If that is your purpose, I would suggest you to be more prepared. Otherwise, it is just another chance for you to embarrass yourself.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-4-30 22:59

I expect you do not like 孔子學院 at all.

My question is – “why does China establish孔子學院 a ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-4-30 22:54

What do you expect from him? That idiot is ashamed of his culture root, largely because of the western media. He should remove his Chinese name and paint his face white.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-4-30 23:18

My question is – “why does China establish孔子學院 around the world?”. So, what is your opinion on this? Do you any idea at all?

You are not making a legitimate discussion but just try to challenge me. If that is your purpose, I would suggest you to be more prepared. Otherwise, it is just another chance for you to embarrass yourself.
rockypath 發表於 2010-4-30 22:54

If you have a brain, try to use it and think about what soft power really means. Which countries in the World today has the greatest amount of soft power? (Hint: Who's our neighbour, and which country did the de facto international language come from?) Do you see them establishing unofficially official language and cultural institutes in attempt to brainwash other people?

-Lik

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-4-30 23:34

If you have a brain, try to use it and think about what soft power really means. Which countries in ...
Lik 發表於 2010-4-30 23:18

So that is all you got in term of knowledge and understanding? It is certainly disappointing.

Question 1: Which is the country enlightens China to realize the power and importance of “soft power”? (Hint: our neighbor)

Question 2: Do you understand why “soft power” is important for China to establish itself on the stage of world politics and for the development of itself as a country?

Other than the craps such as “brain wash”, can you tell people something that are more meaningful and show you are knowledgeable on what you are saying?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-4-30 23:40

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-4-30 23:54 編輯

真係笑到嘔

Lik is just a piece of crap, with no credibility at all, LOL,

The British has established the British Council around the world to promote the English language and British culture.
Even in Hong Kong there are British Council where students can attend English classes. The British Council was established to increase British soft power around the world.

http://www.britishcouncil.org/new/

Lik is a British agent, and yet he is not aware of the British Council?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-4-30 23:56

British Council 又有無共匪式嘅洗腦課程呢？要比嘅話，又邊到有得同孔子學院相比呢？

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-4-30 23:58

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-4-30 23:59 編輯

British Council 又有無共匪式嘅洗腦課程呢？要比嘅話，又邊到有得同孔子學院相比呢？

-力 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-4-30 23:56

you moron, why don't you just admit you forgot about the British Council?

Just admit it, and prevent further embarrassment.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-1 00:07

British Council 又有無共匪式嘅洗腦課程呢？要比嘅話，又邊到有得同孔子學院相比呢？

-力 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-4-30 23:56

Can you say something that can at least show you have some 基本理性和深度? Can anyone force you to take any “洗腦課程”?

Don’t try to avoid answering my question. Do you agree “soft power” is important for China?

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-1 00:22

你仲未明白乜野係軟實力....
孔子學堂你都敢攞出黎講~~

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-1 00:25

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-5-1 00:28 編輯

你仲未明白乜野係軟實力....
孔子學堂你都敢攞出黎講~~
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-5-1 00:22

So can you tell people what your understanding for 軟實力 is?

Just answer my question - do you agree 軟實力 is important to China regardless of what your understanding of 軟實力 is?

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-1 00:26

仲有~~銀包係唔夠中國厚，
但我可以講大陸個個有錢既都係會想過歐美既生活。
三樣野，齋得經濟「好似」贏緊~~~

慢慢自瀆大國勃起啦~~~

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-1 00:28

Dude,

Did I ever say soft power was unimportant? But force-feeding it through official means does NOT work. (Do you ever see the US or UK do that?) But more importantly, does the official propaganda appeal to others, or even make sense?

I suppose they can always teach 石灰麵粉、問題疫苗、毒奶粉、頭髮醬油, etc. at the Confucius Institute ge. I'm sure it'll be quite popular as a chemistry course instead of a language/arts course, and it may also do well as a propaganda case study course for psychology and political science.

-Lik

p.s. Funny how you always question others, but never show the same courtesy to produce any meaningful input...

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-1 00:30

本帖最後由 MoiRhapsody 於 2010-5-1 00:36 編輯

唔好再搬D似是疑非既論點出黎，
勃起大國係軟/硬食力各輸一半，先要用銀彈大鳩全世界咋~~~

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-1 00:43

Dude,

Did I ever say soft power was unimportant? But force-feeding it through official means does N ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-1 00:28

真係笑到嘔
Lik is just a piece of trash, LOL

The British has established the British Council around the world to promote the English language and British culture.
The British Council was established to increase British soft power around the world.

http://www.britishcouncil.org/new/

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-1 00:47

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-5-1 00:49 編輯

Dude,

Did I ever say soft power was unimportant? But force-feeding it through official means does N ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-1 00:28

It is good that you at least admit that soft power is important to China.

Whether you like the way Chinese government to establish its soft power domestically and internationally, it is your own opinion and decision. However, the whole purpose of establishing soft power is for ITS OWN benefits and the development of itself as a country regardless it is China, US or UK.

Does the US or UK do any better? The flip side would be more probably true. Sorry to ask you another question – Why are there so many developing countries complain about US forcing its own value, politics and cultures to them?

P.S. Do I have the courtesy to produce any meaningful input? I believe I certainly do especially when people like you try to mislead other people and tell people what you guys said are the truth when they are actually not.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-1 00:49

嘩哈哈哈哈~~~~~~
喂~~夠囉~~
你地兩個搞笑能手再黎真係會笑出人命~~~~

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 05:52

回復 46# MoiRhapsody

相聲??

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 06:01

It is so funny that they keep saying that they are un-biased and
yet they never dare to post anything negative about China.
They keep  posting how advance the Chinese Railway and
constructions are and yet  they stuck in  poor Canada,
While  they call others  hypocrite and they are indeed hypocrite
themselves.
I thought  they were  supposed to be cheering  at the Grand opening of
Shanghai expo and yet they keep fighting  hopelessly with LYKS here, sigh

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-1 08:19

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作者: mucc1928 時間: 2010-5-1 09:22

It is unfair to compare China to the deveoped countries like US and UK.  It is like comparing hyundai and toyota.  They are both cars, but apparently they don't run in the same systems.

Besides showing off their technologies and power, countries in the Expo want to attract professionals living in thier countires.  What attracts foreginers into our current China are buisiness opportunities and sightseeing.  Hence, it makes scene that Chinese government is using tourism to be the theme in their pavilion.

Furthermore, China does not hi-tech world brand, such as Apples, Asus, sony and so on.  Not going in the tech route is a safe play.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-1 09:35

It is so funny that they keep saying that they are un-biased and
yet they never dare to post anythin ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 06:01

Do we need more people to post negative news and comments about China? I guess probably it is not necessary. You guys are 人多勢眾 enough and Peter is probably the lonely one who would post positive news.

You guys enjoy showing one side of the story, and I just sometimes showed the other side of the story and allow people to have a rounded and balanced view of the same issue. How would people interpret the information and make judgment? It is up to them.

I believe people on LYK would appreciate having a both-side view of a story or issue.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-1 09:51

Huh? I only post negative news and make negative comments about China? Which alternative universe do you live on? I just post stuff out as they come. I celebrated the Chinese athletes' victories when they won their Olympic medals, and I mourn for the earth quake victims as much as everyone else. Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is, there is a lot more shxt coming out of Mainland China than there are good news.

-Lik

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 11:31

Do we need more people to post negative news and comments about China? I guess probably it is not necessary. You guys are 人多勢眾 enough and Peter is probably the lonely one who would post positive news. .
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-1 09:35

如果中央領導有人話
我唔出席世博開幕我去青海指揮救災
我相信力哥會係第一個響呢度話比大家聽

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 14:54

Do we need more people to post negative news and comments about China? I guess probably it is not ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-1 09:35

Both you and peter agreed that revealing the sad truth of China
would actually help China to improve and modernize, but unfortunately whoever
dare to speak the truth in China were either put in jail or under
serveillance. Only you two would love to spend time promoting the
Chinese achievements but mute on those unjust reality in China.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 15:10

Let us not forget, building a better country and improving
the standard of living is the duty of any legitimate government.
And the citizens are allowed to monitor and criticize the government
without fear of adverse consequences, that is the very basic
civic right for a modern country; tell me it is the case in China.
The Chinese gov't has been dreaming to become a major world power,
there is still a long, long way to catch up.
Maybe when I get old( in 40-50 years) I may be able to see the progress,
if the communist still in power

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-1 15:28

Both you and peter agreed that revealing the sad truth of China
would actually help China to impr ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 14:54

Revealing the positive progresses and achievements of China also help China to improve and modernize. Why are you and your friends not willing to do that as well?

As I said, I just sometimes pointed out the other side of a story or issue to provide a rounded and balanced view to people. You list your points and I list mine. People will have their own judgment.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 15:36

Revealing the positive progresses and achievements of China also help China to improve and mod ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-1 15:28

Revealing the positive progresses and achievements of China also help China to improve and mod ...
The problem is that the people in power are so satisfied with these achievements and would not want to hear anything negative.
Just like the BC Liberal has done some good deeds for the province and then they got carried away and became arrogant , they deserved to be unseated.
Unfortunately, people in China do not have this kind of right, which was robbed from them in 1949

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-1 15:58

回復 57# MAXIMUS

Only revealing the negative side of China and painting a negative picture of hopeless ness to people will give them the impression that there is no hope and future for China and themselves. Some of your friends on LYK even went to extreme and cried out loud to overthrow the CCP and that is what I do not agree with.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 16:06

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-1 16:09 編輯

Announcing the good news is your job;and you dare not to reveal anything adverse.
My parents had enough shxx from CCp and
I was forced to leave HK and my friends with my
family just to escape from the Red regime

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 17:17

回復 58# rockypath

The reason my parents try to stay away from the Red regime
is that he was forced to witness his uncles being interrogated and
tortured to death for "crimes" that never exist.
Our  heritage  property was seized and family broken, just because
my father's family was intellectual,  the communists assumed that
they were evil and greedy,  for a crime called exploitation.
The stats show that 30,000,000 innocent Chinese died in vain since
the communist rule China.
You will not be so optimistic about the rising Sun if such terrible thing
ever happen to your family.
BTW, if everything look so rosy and promising in China, why don't you
go back and make a fortune instead of idling and whining  here?

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-1 17:41

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作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-1 17:43

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作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-1 17:56

回復 rockypath

The reason my parents try to stay away from the Red regime
is that he was forced t ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 17:17

There are many more families in China had gone through the similar agony as your family did in culture revolution. It is the Dark Age in Chinese history and it will be recorded in the history book till the end of this world.

However, should we focus on Now and the Future or the Past? Learning from the past is to build a future but not to deny a future.

What should we do to CCP? Should it be the payback time and kick it off from the throne? Is this a practical, meaningful and feasible option to take? Will you be satisfied if we kick the CCP off from the throne?

In my opinion, I believe it is the call of mainland Chinese people to say whether CPP should stay in power, but not the people who are living outside of China.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 17:59

回復 63# rockypath

Some wound never heals,
I've drawn the line.
Future? more fat red cats

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 18:01

The communist did nothing to ease the trauma, and expected
to be forgiven?

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 18:20

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-1 18:22 編輯

「你們不要再讓中國人丟臉！」上海世博會昨日正式開園，國人首先粉墨登場，上演一場醜態騷。數以萬計遊客湧往中國館索取預約券，場面失控，派券警員遭圍搶，有警員被箍頸及推倒在地。搶票期間，有民眾跌倒、對罵、打架，搶不到票者鼓譟、推倒花盆及垃圾桶發洩。工作人員怒喊：「你們不要再讓中國人丟臉！」網民慨嘆：「這是發生在所謂偉大的文明古國嗎？」

放大圖片
「衝呀！」「大家不要擠，慢點慢點，不要跑……」世博園區昨早九時甫開園，在門外守候多時的民眾立即搶閘開跑，希望取得中國館預約券。當局吸取試運行的經驗，改用人手派發中國館預約券，但又擔心遊客哄搶，索性派出穿上制服的警員負責派發，但秩序一樣失控。

遊客甫見手持預約券的警員，即一哄而上，圍人搶券。被圍警員大叫：「不要搶！守點秩序！」但遊客未有理會，繼續推撞，最終將其中一名警員推倒在地。警員好不容易站起來，隨即又被人箍頸扯衫，狼狽至極。有警員持券派發未幾，看見人群開始失控，隨即掉頭逃離。

箍頸搶飛

推倒垃圾桶
預約券10分鐘搶空
搶票期間，有老人被推倒在地，有人假髮被扯甩，遊客互罵、推撞，甚至打架。有遊客連不是派券的工作人員亦不放過，包圍他要求派券，工作人員連番解釋仍未能脫困，情急下大聲責斥：「你們不要再讓中國人丟臉！」但遊客未有理會，繼續包圍他及怒斥當局安排失當。

小孩嚇到喊

警察逼埋牆

阿伯被推倒地
中國館預約券不夠十分鐘就被搶空，搶不到票的遊客推倒花盆及垃圾桶洩憤，有遊客指凌晨已排隊，未能取得預約券，滿腔怒火：「我五點鐘就來了，排在前面幾個，都沒拿到預約票。」有遊客則質疑當局扣起大部分預約券：「我進園是九點零三分，這個預約券就沒有了，你說這個算甚麼？」中國館每日只發放五萬張預約券，但大部分是分給旅行社，故昨日入中國館的，大部分都是團客。

當局估計昨有二十萬遊客入場，除中國館逼爆外，日本館、美國館等排隊亦要排上最少三小時。由於人太多，遊客均只能走馬看花，有參觀完美國館的遊客表示：「不看挺遺憾，看過更遺憾。」他解釋，因為展館內人頭湧湧，逛得很不爽。網民對於世博開園首日即變成國人醜態展大感丟臉：「讓人失望的國人！太丟中國人的臉了！」

第一手消息請瀏覽on.cc《即時新聞》
This is for master moron, how orderly and educated the crowd could be

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 18:26

回復 63# rockypath

More Negative news for you, try to defend it, if you still have good conscience:

為網民辯護閩律師樓解散

本文重點
疑當局報復性執法
【本報訊】備受爭議的福建福州三名網民因言獲罪案，其中一名被告的辯護律師林洪楠，其律師事務所上月中被當局責令解散。因該案日前剛結束審判，外界質疑當局打擊報復。曾任福州司法局律管處處長的林洪楠慨嘆，以往自己管律師時首要考慮就是保護律師，而今卻遭懲戒。
疑當局報復性執法
福建閩清縣居民林秀英年前對女兒嚴曉玲死因存疑，多次上訪無果，福州網民范燕瓊、游精佑及吳華英幫助林將材料和視頻發到網上，引起國內外關注。結果被福州公安拘捕，並控以誣告陷害罪，林洪楠擔任吳華英的辯護律師。經多月審訊，三名網民上月十六日分別被以誹謗罪判監一至兩年。至上月二十一日，林洪楠任職主任的福建法煒律師事務所突然收到福州市司法局責令解散通知，指律師事務所合夥人不足，違反《律師法》，須十五天內解散。

同為福州網民誹謗案辯護的律師劉曉原稱，當局速度之快全國罕見，質疑是報復性執法。

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 19:55

I read Sing Tao, Ming Pao West Canada Edition in print
Oriental Daily and other HK Chinese newspapers on line,
those are the news I come across everyday.
I don't know what kind of papers you read, People's Daily,
Dai Kung Pao maybe?
And you think all the non Pro-CCP press in HK are traitors

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-1 19:55

如果中央領導有人話
我唔出席世博開幕我去青海指揮救災
我相信力哥會係第一個響呢度話比大家聽 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-2 03:31

我就覺得應該係Peter仔第一個講...

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 19:57

我就覺得應該係Peter仔第一個講...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-1 19:55

How bout you?

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-1 20:00

How bout you?
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-2 11:57

呢度係人都知我係一棵牆頭政治冷感草, d 呢野有乜好講woh.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 20:06

I read Sing Tao, Ming Pao West Canada Edition in print
Oriental Daily and other HK Chinese newspap ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 19:55

石仔路啲廢話
慳番啖氣好過

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 20:08

回復 72# sheep

So Uncle Sheep, do you have smt to share?

作者: soli 時間: 2010-5-1 20:17

回復 rockypath

The reason my parents try to stay away from the Red regime
is that he was forced t ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 17:17

原來如此﹐難怪閣下對中共任何新聞也難以理性評論﹐仇人嘛﹐明晒~

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 20:21

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-1 20:22 編輯

原來如此﹐難怪閣下對中共任何新聞也難以理性評論﹐仇人嘛﹐明晒~
soli 發表於 2010-5-1 20:17

Just because I do not read People's Daily,
I'm immune from brain-wash.
Why you stay in rotten capitalist imperialism North America then?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 20:21

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-5-1 20:41 編輯

原來如此﹐難怪閣下對中共任何新聞也難以理性評論﹐仇人嘛﹐明晒~
soli 發表於 2010-5-1 20:17

你咁幫大陸
係佢餵奶養大你嘅
有奶便是娘
我都明晒

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 20:27

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-5-1 20:28 編輯

回復 sheep

So Uncle Sheep, do you have smt to share?
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 20:08

我阿爺就帶住我老豆走難落香港
我要多謝大錄俾機會我嚮香港成長
IF NOT，I WON'T BE HERE

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 20:30

回復 74# soli

為匪張目，搖旗吶喊

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 20:31

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-1 20:34 編輯

回復 77# sheep

You are lucky uncle sheep,just wondering why Rocky and Pete  decided to emigrate to Canada?
They would not have left HK because of the  Great Return,
or they should return  to build more High Speed Railway?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 20:36

原來如此﹐難怪閣下對中共任何新聞也難以理性評論﹐仇人嘛﹐明晒~
soli 發表於 2010-5-1 20:17

我哋響呢道講吓一啲對大陸嘅不滿
都令你感到我哋好似十惡不赦咁
咁有人害你親人斷估你都唔會認賊作父掛

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 20:39

回復 80# sheep

中華新景象，人人向錢看

作者: soli 時間: 2010-5-1 21:02

我只知毛澤東已死三十幾年﹐鄧小平也非毛澤東接班人(直情係毛既死敵)﹐中共權力核心也換左幾屆﹐也沒再奉行共產主義。在我看來﹐大陸自鄧小平上台後﹐已經算是改朝換代﹐仲掛住個中共名都只係權宜之計而已。
不過﹐掛住中共個名﹐就預左類似MAXIMUS既人會不斷翻中共舊帳﹐不過在我看來﹐也只是無理指控﹐因為對象錯了。
今時今日﹐罵中共的人﹐大都只針對六四事件﹐再翻文革舊帳已經無巿場啦。

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 21:06

回復 82# soli

因著生仔冇 PET PET

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 21:07

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-1 21:08 編輯

It is about current news, not history.
I posted what happened within a week.
As long as they are still posting Mao's picture high,
Mao will continue to haunt them.They have to bear the yoke of Mao's fault

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 21:09

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-5-1 21:11 編輯

仲掛住個中共名都只係權宜之計而已。
soli 發表於 2010-5-1 21:02

即係繼續愚民政策

無知並不是罪﹐ 真正的罪是以無知為榮
YOUR SIGNATURE
BEST DESCRIBE YOU YOURSELF

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-1 21:13

回復 soli

因著生仔冇 JJ
sheep 發表於 2010-5-1 21:06

因著生仔冇 JJ

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-1 21:15

因著生仔冇 JJ
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 21:13

唔得
佢話生女你吹呀

作者: soli 時間: 2010-5-1 21:30

即係繼續愚民政策

無知並不是罪﹐ 真正的罪是以無知為榮
YOUR SIGNATURE
BEST DESCRIBE YOU YOURSE ...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-1 21:09

如果愚民政策可以令人民生活得更好﹐這就是好政策。
至少比侵略他國來令本國得益(eg 美國)來得更好。

羊仔﹐你連我個signature 都睇唔明﹐你程度太低﹐不足與論。

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-1 23:17

我只知毛澤東已死三十幾年﹐鄧小平也非毛澤東接班人(直情係毛既死敵)﹐中共權力核心也換左幾屆﹐也沒再奉行共產主義。在我看來﹐大陸自鄧小平上台後﹐已經算是改朝換代﹐仲掛住個中共名都只係權宜之計而已。
不過﹐掛住中共個名﹐就預左類似MAXIMUS既人會不斷翻中共舊帳﹐不過在我看來﹐也只是無理指控﹐因為對象錯了。
今時今日﹐罵中共的人﹐大都只針對六四事件﹐再翻文革舊帳已經無巿場啦。
soli 發表於 2010-5-1 21:02

仲掛住個中共之名都只係權宜之計？你任何一代領導人承繼得共產黨呢個衣缽，就一日都要為老共昨日所作嘅孽或多或少咁咩上自己嘅膊頭上面。試問有邊個國家唔係咁樣？

隨住文革嘅直接受害者慢慢老去同歸西，繼續因文革而插老共嘅人自然係越來越少。但咁樣卻唔代表文革嘅遺禍會隨住老一輩嘅人而進入棺材。文革對中國人嘅文化、歷史實在帶來太大嘅傷害，而其中最大鑊嘅就係佢接近完全撕毀晒中國人嘅傳統倫理關係同人性。仔鬥老竇、老公鬥老婆、學生鬥老師；文革之中死唔去果啲人，人性好嘅一面幾乎完全被毀滅，而最壞嘅一面卻就無限放大。你夠膽話呢個影響唔會延禍幾代落去？響中國大陸裡面，如果唔係人性嘅滅絕，試問點解會發生咁多毒奶粉、假成藥／疫苗、同無數咁多偷呃拐騙嘅事情？

國內外去鬧老共嘅人，你估淨係追究六四呀？全國咁多地方民怨沸騰、咁多人要上訪，你認為老共又真係做得好好咩？

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-1 23:19

如果中央領導有人話
我唔出席世博開幕我去青海指揮救災
我相信力哥會係第一個響呢度話比大家聽 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-1 11:31

The Chinese leaders have already visited the earthquake areas.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-1 23:30

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-5-1 23:36 編輯

I read Sing Tao, Ming Pao West Canada Edition in print
Oriental Daily and other HK Chinese newspap ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 19:55

hahaha, when people post some messages about China, people like you just jump out and bash the Chinese indiscriminately.

This is very interesting here. It is not even about whether China is right or wrong. As we all know China has lots challenges that need to be solved. But it is clear that you hate anything Chinese and your cultural heritage.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-2 00:23

The Chinese leaders have already visited the earthquake areas.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-1 23:19

盲丙，唔識中文就返去小學讀書啦。之前又發雞盲睇錯我寫果個 post，依家一句咁簡單嘅句子又睇唔明。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-2 00:33

盲丙，唔識中文就返去小學讀書啦。之前又發雞盲睇錯我寫果個 post，依家一句咁簡單嘅句子又睇唔明。

-力 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-2 00:23

hahaha, where is the problem here?
The Chinese leaders have visited the earthquake areas. The efforts are still ongoing to deal with the affected regions. Of course, the Chinese leaders gave orders to the officers.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-2 01:54

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-5-2 01:57 編輯

回復 rockypath

Some wound never heals,
I've drawn the line.
Future? more fat red cat ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-1 17:59

Living through the history means every family would suffer one way or the other.

We have family members that were killed by the Japanese during the war (we have relatives who witnessed the killing still alive today). So what do you expect us to do to Japan and the Japanese today?

We lost all of our properties when the communist party took power and relatives (not immediate family members) died in culture revolution. So what is the right way for us to do to China and the CCP today, in your opinion?

It is true that we used to be very scared of CCP and could not find the future of China. We felt very sorry for people who live in mainland and we could never imagine what China is today both economically and politically. Did you expect what China is today? No, you did not.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-2 06:05

回復 91# peter236

you silly moron, I'm always proud of Chinese culture and being
a Chinese Canadian.
What is communist regime compare to 5,000 years Chinese
civilization?
They are merely rubbish in history,  Chinese had experienced
dark age many times, the Mongols ruled China for almost 100
years but they were drove away, the Manchurian ruled China
for 200 years and overthown. read some more chinese history
instead of kissing your master's feet.
Challenges for China? the communist created problem so big that
   they are unable to deal with.
   My parent chose to emigrate to Canada because they had no
confidence in  Red regime,  why you left your great motherland and
never return to contribute more?

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-2 06:06

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-2 06:08 編輯

回復 91# peter236

you silly moron, I'm always proud of Chinese culture and being
a Chinese Canadian.
What is communist regime compare to 5,000 years Chinese
civilization?
They are merely rubbish in history,  Chinese had experienced
dark age many times, the Mongols ruled China for almost 100
years but they were defeated and driven away, the Manchurian ruled China
for 200 years and overthown. read some more chinese history
instead of kissing your master's feet.
Challenges for China? the communist created problem so big that
   they are unable to deal with.
   My parent chose to emigrate to Canada because they had no
confidence in  Red regime,  why you left your great motherland and
never return to contribute more? You are the true self-hating hypocrite

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-2 06:15

回復 88# soli

你咁自以為是係你嘅悲哀
你定我一樣唔會放生你
你一開聲就自討苦吃

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-2 06:33

hahaha, when people post some messages about China, people like you just jump out and bash the Chin ...
peter236 發表於 2010-5-1 23:30

"hahaha, when people post some messages about China, people like you just jump out and bash the Chinese indiscriminately."
Wrong again, when you flood the forum with those nonsense pictures, I don't give a damn. I get my info from the HK press, which I believe to be much more trustworthy than People's Daily, and do you dare to say that the news articles I posted yesterday
are false?
Smart up, use your brain, just think why you are so isolated in here, not all the LYK are British spy , we are just not as naive and simple as you guys: trust everything the party says

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-2 06:41

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-2 06:53 編輯

回復 94# rockypath
"We have family members that were killed by the Japanese during the war (we have relatives who witnessed the killing still alive today). So what do you expect us to do to Japan and the Japanese today?"

I join the campaign to fight Japanese for War-crime justice

"We lost all of our properties when the communist party took power and relatives (not immediate family members) died in culture revolution. So what is the right way for us to do to China and the CCP today, in your opinion?"

Instead of demanding compensation for your family, you chose to sympathize the communists and defend them, what can I say?I'm not old enough to teach you what to do

"It is true that we used to be very scared of CCP "

We don't scare them , we despise them

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-2 07:15

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