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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-20 19:00 標題: 中國遊客罵納粹德國擬閉館

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2010-5-20 19:02 編輯

又一單～

http://hk.dv.nextmedia.com/templ ... 14053060&page=1

中國遊客罵納粹德國擬閉館

上海世博出現外國展館封館暗湧。繼捷克館強烈不滿園區管理而揚言閉館後，德國館首席專員也向上海世博局提出嚴厲抗議，指中國遊客因排隊不耐煩，多次強闖展館，並出言侮辱德國人是「納粹」，甚至推撞工作人員，情況「令人不可容忍」。他稱，若員工等安全問題未能得到保障，德國館將「無限期關閉」。

德國《南德意志報》引述德國館首席專員施米茨（ Dietmar Schmitz）指，由上海世博 5月 1日第一日開園至今，德國館就出現多宗不愉快的事件。以開園第二天為例，由於遊客要進入德國館排隊需數小時，當中包括一些坐輪椅的參觀者，但部份脾氣暴躁的遊客排得不耐煩便開始鼓譟，從花壇裏拔出鮮花扔向德國館，並試圖從貴賓通道衝入展館，被工作人員阻止後，他們便以普通話大喊德國人「納粹」，其後推撞工作人員，甚至發生打鬥。

施米茨在 5月 2日致上海世博局的投訴信中表示，上述情況「令人不可忍受」。「我親眼看到我們的工作人員在展區內被人出言侮辱和人身攻擊。」他在信中要求世博加強展館保安，保障人員安全，否則德國館將「無限期關閉」。

「並不是所有的中國人都圍着展館喊納粹，只是小部份人。」德國館發言人孔然蒂（ Marion Conrady）昨日接受香港電視媒體採訪時說：「大家一對德國不高興，就很容易想起我們的歷史，例如就我們過去歷史說『納粹』這個字眼。」她稱，當日發生衝撞事件後，館方立即要求世博緊急服務中心支援，武警到場後平息打鬥事件及控制人群。

「我們不是唯一憤怒的」

孔然蒂稱，類似的混亂情況在園區內普遍存在，「我們並不是唯一憤怒的一個（館）」。據悉，同樣位於 C區的英國館和瑞士館也曾出現推撞情況，英國館因此曾一度短暫關閉。她表示，德國館的工作人員大多能說流利的普通話，為免遊客排隊煩悶，工作人員也經常和他們聊天說笑。二次世界大戰時期，希特拉領導德國納粹黨專政獨裁，當時德國被稱為「納粹德國」，因此「納粹」一詞成為後人批判冷血、獨裁的字眼。

上海世博開幕至今問題多多。除中國遊客爭先恐後、不守秩序等最為人詬病外，園區管理錯漏百出。
德國《南德意志報》

上海世博亂況
•德國館不滿中國遊客辱罵德國人「納粹」，並不滿遊客推撞工作人員
•捷克館投訴園區多項管理問題「令人不可接受」，問題不獲解決，揚言閉館
•有義工為阻記者採訪負面新聞，打爛亞洲電視攝影記者的攝影機
•中國遊客參觀世博園期間，一度大肆破壞館內和館外的設施
•世博開幕前後，發生多宗民眾瘋搶中國館預約門票，圍打武警的情況（圖）

資料來源：《蘋果》資料室

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-20 19:47

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作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-20 19:57

what would peter said about it?
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-5-20 19:47

What will he say?

Are you serious? those news are fake, made by american and western, only news from GREAT MOTHER COUNTRY can trust.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-20 20:04

If what the news said is true, I wish couple pavilions would shut down for a week and make headline news on every Chinese news paper. I believe it will be a good opportunity for a nationwide 國民教育.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-20 20:54

If what the news said is true, I wish couple pavilions would shut down for a week and make headline ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-20 20:04

Whoa~ You never cease to surprise me, Rocky dude~ "If what the news said is true"?

-Lik

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-20 21:26

so embarrass

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-20 21:39

Whoa~ You never cease to surprise me, Rocky dude~ "If what the news said is true"?

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2010-5-20 20:54

Lik, what is the problem with you?

Do you understand english? "If what the news aid is true" is the condition for what I said after it, but not a statement to deny the news.

It looks like you need to upgrade your English.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-20 23:05

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2010-5-20 23:06 編輯

Gee... between the two of us, I wonder who is in a greater need to upgrade their English. And while you're at it, you might as well try to upgrade your logic a bit. It shouldn't be hard to see any improvement since yours is so poor to begin with~

It is true that you did not deny the news as false, and I never said you denied it either. But by having the conditional clause there, it is plainly obvious to anyone with any sort of common sense that you are questioning the truth of the news report, that you are suggesting it might be false. And that is what I was mocking and ridiculing you about.

Now, is your English so poor that you couldn't see that?

Borrowing a page from you, I'm gonna say this -- just answer me plainly and simply -- a "yes" or a "no" would suffice. Do you think the news is true?

Cut the crap, man.

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-20 23:10

Gee... between the two of us, I wonder who is in a greater need to upgrade their English. And while ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-20 23:05

Lik, please immigrate to the UK. Then remove your Chinese name.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-20 23:22

In case you have forgotten, Peter, Canada is part of the Commonwealth. Our country (again, not yours, obviously) even pledge our allegiance to the Queen Her Majesty, as she is the highest figure head of Canada. Have you ever wondered why Her head is stamped on the back of our coins?

Moron~

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-20 23:38

In case you have forgotten, Peter, Canada is part of the Commonwealth. Our country (again, not yours ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-20 23:22

Lik, I think it is far better for you to immigrate to the UK. That way you can totally enjoy your British culture.
Here, in Canada it is nice, but still we are made up of English and French culture.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-21 00:05

And while you're at it, you might as well try to upgrade your logic a bit. It shouldn't be hard to see any improvement since yours is so poor to begin with~ ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-20 23:05

I agree with you that my strength is never on logic. Therefore, when I express my opinions, I always state my points clearly and back up with facts and evidences while you back up your statements with “fancy” logics instead of facts and evidences. That is the reason you always failed to challenge me and defended yourself.

But by having the conditional clause there, it is plainly obvious to anyone with any sort of common sense that you are questioning the truth of the news report, that you are suggesting it might be false. And that is what I was mocking and ridiculing you about....
Lik 發表於 2010-5-20 23:05

Using conditional clause is a very common way and style in English expression. If your understanding of the usage of conditional clause is “questioning” something, I would seriously recommend you to upgrade your English since you would very likely cause a lot of misunderstandings when you communicate with people in English.

Borrowing a page from you, I'm gonna say this -- just answer me plainly and simply -- a "yes" or a "no" would suffice. Do you think the news is true?...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-20 23:05

Is this news true or not? Honestly, I don’t know. However, it doesn’t matter. The important point is that I had made my position very clear – if it is true, I wish it can make headlines on every Chinese news paper and it can be beneficial to China as an opportunity for a nationwide 國民教育. Haven’t I made myself clear? Do I need to restate it in Chinese instead of English?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-21 00:21

Is this news true or not? Honestly, I don’t know. However, it doesn’t matter. The important point is that I had made my position very clear – if it is true, I wish it can make headlines on every Chinese news paper and it can be beneficial to China as an opportunity for a nationwide 國民教育. Haven’t I made myself clear? Do I need to restate it in Chinese instead of English?
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-21 00:05

呢啲咪叫做死撐囉～

作者: Prelude 時間: 2010-5-21 00:46

Lik is just a troll. Don't feed him. The only way for non-admin to kill them is to ignore them.
I wish we have troll killer in this forum.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-21 00:53

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100518-27261.html

真珠都冇咁真。
德國不嬲都唔妥中國，鐵路火車賣俾你中國，中國就屈尾十照炒出黎唔洗俾專利。

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-21 01:33

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-5-21 01:48 編輯

真珠都冇咁真。
德國不嬲都唔妥中國，鐵路火車賣俾你中國，中國就屈尾十照炒出黎唔洗俾專利。 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-5-21 00:53

You moron, is it that easy to copy a train? China's highpseed trains are now Chinese designed and made. Chinese designed highspeed trains are now as good, if not better than German or Japanese trains.

If it is that easy to copy a train, like you claimed, then it is much easier to copy a German car.
These Germans better treat their BMW customers better.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-21 07:18

Lik is just a troll. Don't feed him. The only way for non-admin to kill them is to ignore them.
I wish we have troll killer in this forum.
Prelude 發表於 2010-5-21 00:46

唔...我係 troll 嘅話，你又係乜野呢？

同埋，我又想請教吓你，我 post 出來啲 news 係堅定係流嘅呢？

-力

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-21 08:25

I always state my points clearly and back up with facts and evidences while you back up your statements with “fancy” logics instead of facts and evidences.
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-21 00:05

你響邊道幾時見過
中國人會從錯誤中學習倒？
佢哋只會變本加厲

my position very clear – if it is true, I wish it can make headlines on every Chinese news paper and it can be beneficial to China as an opportunity for a nationwide 國民教育.
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-21 00:05

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-21 09:26

Yes wor .. China copy german car .. so .. no surprise to copy german train ..

well .. copy anything .. lol ..

Still, hard to believe, but will see tons of AAA "BMW" AAA "Benz" in china...

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-21 09:29

你響邊道幾時見過
中國人會從錯誤中學習倒？
佢哋只會變本加厲

...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-21 08:25

Sad, but so true ... even in Canada, go to mall .. etc ..

Just not too long ago, when I went to the car show, one little kid flipped his popcorn .. so .. popcorn all over .. I expected his parents will do the clean up, or at least, do soemthing etc .. but the mom just said "RUN! RUN! run fast NOW! why stand there? dumd son .. " of course, in mandarin ....

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-21 10:31

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-5-21 10:36 編輯

Yes wor .. China copy german car .. so .. no surprise to copy german train ..

well .. copy anyth ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-5-21 09:26

Is it that easy to copy a train? The Chinese designed their own new model highspeed train.

Like I said, if it is that easy to copy a train, why not copy a German car?

If you think about it, those so-called copied German cars, are just similar in appearance, but the parts and car performance are not the same.

But these highspeed trains in China are all high-quality. They are running reliably and smoothly. Their performance are among the best in the world. Clearly, these trains are designed by the Chinese as it is very difficult to copy a train.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-21 10:36

If you think about it, those so-called copied German cars, are just similar in appearance, but the parts are not the same.

But these highspeed trains in China are all high-quality. They are running reliably and smoothly. Their performance are among the best in the world.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-21 10:31

LOL~

真係想唔讚你啲厚顏功都唔得～

Of course the Chinese clone cars are only similar in appearance, but not the same in parts la. They are inferior ar mah~

If you think the 河蟹號 is ging reliable, you are obviously turning a blind eye to all their malfunctions~

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-21 10:38

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-5-21 10:43 編輯

LOL~

真係想唔讚你啲厚顏功都唔得～

Of course the Chinese clone cars are only similar in appearance ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-21 10:36

You actually understood my point. An improvement from you, hahaha.
Trains are not easily copied. Clearly, these Chinese trains are designed by the Chinese.

Like you said the clone cars cannot match with performance.

But these Chinese trains are among the best in the world in terms of reliability and performance. The Chinese now has the most advanced highspeed railway network in the world. The design of the stations, the railway tracks, the signal systems implementation are all leading the world.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-21 10:51

But these Chinese trains are among the best in the world in terms of reliability and performance. The Chinese now has the most advanced highspeed railway network in the world. The design of the stations, the railway tracks, the signal systems implementation are all leading the world.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-21 10:38

The biggest and most extensive in terms of coverage, yes. The most reliable mechanically and service-wise? I am quite certain that honour goes to the Japanese. I remember reading that their bullet train's QoS is so consistently excellent that their actual arrivals and departures are always within a very narrow margin of their advertised schedules.

I wonder if I should go look up some 河蟹號 failure incidents... I remember seeing quite a few all over the new just a few weeks (or months) earlier...

-Lik

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-21 13:19

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作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-21 13:24

Like our moron. Always have thick face to say China invented everything and Every other countries ...
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-5-21 13:19

but he is not wrong, China invent the "train connect joint" and every train is using it.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-21 13:27

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作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-5-21 13:32

你響邊道幾時見過
中國人會從錯誤中學習倒？
佢哋只會變本加厲

...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-21 08:25

What should I say to you, 羊仔?

It doesn’t worth my time to talk to a 不學無術的白丁.

If China didn’t learn from the history and its painful sufferings in the past, how would it be able to achieve the position it is at right now?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-21 14:18

What should I say to you, 羊仔?

It doesn’t worth my time to talk to a 不學無術的白丁.

If China ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-5-21 13:32

do you really want toknow why?

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-21 18:28

but he is not wrong, China invent the "train connect joint" and every train is using it.
sheep 發表於 2010-5-21 13:24

詹天佑鉤
I learned it in Elementary school in HK

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-21 19:03

詹天佑鉤
I learned it in Elementary school in HK
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-21 18:28

oh yes

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-21 20:09

回復 31# sheep

So Uncle Sheep, do you like my 陽具叔叔叔 joke that
I posted few days ago?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-21 20:52

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-5-21 20:55 編輯

The biggest and most extensive in terms of coverage, yes. The most reliable mechanically and servic ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-21 10:51

The Japanese trains are reliable. They claimed they are always on time for decades. But it is very suspicious. Most likely, the Japanese are just hyping.
Even here, our well-maintained skytrain break down before, causing delays. The Hong Kong subway, among the best managed in the world, also break down before, so did the European highspeed railway.
The sections of Chinese highspeed railway systems that are newly opened, still have some teething problems. More new sections will be opened every year. But the reliability and quality are still top notch.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-5-21 21:03

The Japanese trains are reliable. They claimed they are always on time for decades. But it is very suspicious. Most likely, the Japanese are just hyping.
...
The sections of Chinese highspeed railway systems that are newly opened, still have some teething problems. More new sections will be opened every year. But the reliability and quality are still top notch.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-21 20:52

Hmm... so Japanese reliability is all just hype, eh? Exactly like how Toyota reliability is, right? As I was saying before, I really need to learn this 厚顏功 from you~

And now you're saying the Chinese highspeed trains have some "teething problems"? In an earlier post, I just read this wor:

But these Chinese trains are among the best in the world in terms of reliability and performance. The Chinese now has the most advanced highspeed railway network in the world. The design of the stations, the railway tracks, the signal systems implementation are all leading the world.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-21 10:38

Do you know what self contradicting means? Do you have any sense of what credibility means?

-Lik

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-21 21:04

Peter,

No la..  Japanese trains are not always on time wor ..

Everytime we go Japan, always big delay from those hi speed train ..

But most the time, because of accident ..

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-21 21:06

Peter,

No la.. Japanese trains are not always on time wor ..

Everytime we go Japan, always big ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-5-21 21:04

I didn't say Japanese trains are always on time. It was Lik who claimed that.
Now, like you said if Japanese trains are delayed by accidents, I don't know how Mr Lik is going to defend the Japanese.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-21 21:11

Hmm... so Japanese reliability is all just hype, eh? Exactly like how Toyota reliability is, right? ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-21 21:03

I don't see any contradiction here. There are teething problems for the new sections of the railway, but the Chinese highspeed network is still the most advanced highspeed railway network in terms of railway station design, track design and signaling system implementation.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-21 22:07

aiya ... dont OT to china highspeed railway la..

It is common sense, newer tech/system is better ..

RX78 Gundam, wont' beat Z Gundam la....

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-22 07:57

回復 sheep

So Uncle Sheep, do you like my 陽具叔叔叔 joke that
I posted few days ago?
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-21 20:09

都好好笑
不過我這位UNCLE
叫鉅祥係好有心思嘅

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-5-22 08:10

小朋友飲得多毒奶飲到shortshort地

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-22 08:14

小朋友飲得多毒奶飲到shortshort地
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-5-22 08:10

定係腎結石
塞咗縮埋？

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-22 11:14

回復 40# habitrailspace

I'm post 80's not that young.
I was raised in HK so no toxic formula for me

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-22 11:16

回復 39# sheep

So still 陽具叔叔叔

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2010-5-23 09:14

Lik is just a troll. Don't feed him. The only way for non-admin to kill them is to ignore them.
I ...
Prelude 發表於 2010-5-21 00:46

agreed!!

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-23 09:48

本帖最後由 MAXIMUS 於 2010-5-23 09:51 編輯

回復 14# Prelude

You do not have to agree with him,
but I think LIK is a man with integrity, and well-educated guy; despite the fact
that he dislike the HK SAR muppet  government.
Tell us why the former British colonist AO are much more popular among
average HK people compared to the Donald T's gang? Because the SAR gov't
only serves their 2 masters, 1. the China , and 2. The rich Tycoons    but not  the  middle and lower class people.
   We do not need  more Chinese gov't promoter here

作者: playingtoy 時間: 2010-5-23 10:03

都好好笑
不過我這位UNCLE
叫鉅祥係好有心思嘅
sheep 發表於 2010-5-22 07:57

陽具長

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2010-5-23 11:02

叔叔叔

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-23 20:22

叔叔叔
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 11:02

羊叔叔冇問題丫
UNCLE 羊都好聽
千其唔好叔羊就得喇

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