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標題: 防止絕對民主的弊端 [打印本頁]

作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-6-6 16:00     標題: 防止絕對民主的弊端

Educational information for people who love to talk about Democracy but do not know what Democracy is (including the "UBC girl" who claimed having studied political science for 2 yeras).

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防止絕對民主的弊端
「全民公投」決定、「一人一票」選出,是全民民主,也是絕對民主,在公民社會的政治生態中,容易產生弊端。例如,在近代史中,一些國家的極端勢力通過全民民主的體制取得政權, 1922年墨索裏尼在意大利上台和1933年希特勒在德國執政,給全人類帶來巨大的災難。再如,台灣立法會中的藍綠對打,泰國紅衫軍與黃衫軍的街頭暴力,絕對民主造成政局不穩、經濟受損、社會動蕩、民心惶惶。

觀察一些歐美國家的政治制度的設制,可防止絕對民主的弊端。例如,英國議會的上、下議院制度。上議院曾是一個世襲的貴族議院,雖然目前英國正在對上議院進行重大改革,但現時的上議院成員仍有部分還是世襲貴族,其他則是委任議員。上議院有權審查下議院通過的法案,並通過必要的修正案,還可以要求推遲它不贊成的立法。下議院全是分區直選產生的議員。英國議會存在著選民政治權利的不平等。

再如,美國國會的參、眾兩院制度。兩院議員均由民主選舉產生。參議院議員100名,來自50個州,每州2名。眾議院議員435名,按人口比例選舉產生。兩院制是人口多的州與人口少的州之間利益的平衡,也是美國制憲會議代表對全民民主的不信任。這表明美國國會存在選民政治權利的不平等。英、美議會制度設計者的高明之處在於,在民主政治的大前提下,在上議院中增加了委任議員和在參議院中增加了州選議員,來制約「一人一票」的全民民主,提高了民主的質量和效率。
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-6-6 17:04

I stopped reading the moment your stupid passage referenced Mussolini, Hitler, and the current Thai government as "democratic".

So who doesn't understand what democracy is, huh?

-Lik
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-6-6 17:16

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-6-6 17:26 編輯
I stopped reading the moment your stupid passage referenced Mussolini, Hitler, and the current Thai  ...
Lik 發表於 2010-6-6 17:04


First, I wasn’t the person who wrote the article.

Second, if you didn’t read the article, why would think you have the ground to criticize it because you don’t even know what it is about?

Third, if you think you know about democracy and the author of this article just BS, why don't you point out which part of the article is wrong (other than your comment on the "Thai" government)?

P.S. - why don't you ask the "UBC girl" to explain to you what "絕對民主" is and the problems with it since "she" claimed to study political science for 2 years. If you still couldn't see the problem, just ask yourself, do you understand what "絕對自由" is and the problems with it?
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-6-6 20:09

回復 1# rockypath


   一人一票
互相制衡
防止一黨獨大
你重未明
作者: samsung    時間: 2010-6-6 22:00

what about Japan? Is Japan good, changing their govt all the time?
作者: soli    時間: 2010-6-7 00:26

所以(普選)功能組別應該被保留﹐作為對民粹議會既制衡。
不過組別分配又會係一難題。
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-6-7 00:42

所以(普選)功能組別應該被保留﹐作為對民粹議會既制衡。
不過組別分配又會係一難題。 ...
soli 發表於 2010-6-7 16:26

小弟覺得, 以而家香港市民既民智, 都應該可以一人一票, 咁樣會公平d.
如果真係要分功能組別, 可唔可以分齡呢? 20+, 30+, 40+, 50+, 60+, etc
作者: Prelude    時間: 2010-6-7 00:51

   一人一票
互相制衡
防止一黨獨大
你重未明
sheep 發表於 2010-6-6 20:09


一人一票 = the party with the most money will win most of the time when the citizen sees money more important than anything else, for example, in China.




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