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作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-14 10:29 標題: River Green

We are thinking of buying one, anyone bought? Please share your opinon.

作者: news 時間: 2010-7-14 11:08

i love the location but i think its overpriced

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-7-14 11:13

$1000 a sq feet ... I suppose you get get a house in Richmond for less than $500 a square feet.

rumor says that the East of the Oval will also become River Green.

disclaimer applies.

作者: starbug 時間: 2010-7-14 11:21

做市.

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-14 12:27

is there a presentation center yet?

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-7-14 13:03

Is that a concrete building with air-condition? I used to live in the area and the noise of float planes landing and taking off was unbearable. Esp on weekend mornings in the summer when I had to leave the windows open.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-14 13:13

is there a presentation center yet?
Arlui 發表於 2010-7-14 12:27

yep, we've been there and like it, it opens from 10-5 daily.

and yes, the whole area (surrounding Oval) is going to be River Green.

my only concern is, too many mainland Chinese ppl lives there and someone might pee along the street

作者: news 時間: 2010-7-14 13:53

回復 7# samsung

"you moron chinese ppl don't pee on the street!!! you self hating anti chinese!!!"

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-14 14:15

本帖最後由 samsung 於 2010-7-14 14:17 編輯

Is that a concrete building with air-condition? I used to live in the area and the noise of float pl ...
布小熊發表於 2010-7-14 13:03

thanks for your input, it's really something that we should discuss about.

and yes, it's a concrete building with air-con., however, we will need to open window for fresh air.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-14 14:16

回復 samsung

"you moron chinese ppl don't pee on the street!!! you self hating anti chinese! ...
news 發表於 2010-7-14 13:53

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-7-14 14:16

For this price I think there are many other options. Personally, I don't like the area, especially that I'm sure it will be all mainlanders.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-14 14:40

yep, we've been there and like it, it opens from 10-5 daily.

and yes, the whole area (surrou ...
samsung 發表於 2010-7-14 13:13

It is the Japanese who pee on the streets. I don't know where you got that idea that Chinese may pee on the street.
If you like it, just go to Surrey and live among the Indian villagers.

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-14 16:07

$1000/sqft really is pricey!

作者: tapioca 時間: 2010-7-14 16:23

There is a Taiwanese Village in Surrey too

作者: kelrich 時間: 2010-7-14 16:23

Over-priced (you even have to pay for parking to visit the presentation center). The gimmick is Coal Harbor quality which the developer has been known for Harbor Green developments. However, thought there are water views (can argue about quality of it) and you can get the same quality of interior just to renovate other condos with alot less.

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-14 17:35

As for price, it is like yaletown, but this is no yaletown... it is right next to river and also a commercial/industrial zone.

Also, i believe that u have to sign a waiver for the possible noise that you may experience.

In terms of engineering for the crappy soil underneath, i won't comment too much (due to liability issue). I just won't buy even if the price is fair.

作者: liksook 時間: 2010-7-14 18:12

My engineering friend told me that the Richmond Ov@l already sinking a bit into the ground earlier than expected because of softness. The city has or will take off the ice sheets to reduce weight but may be already too late. It will become a badminton court eventually but he definitely doesn't recommend River G because it will have the same fate with the Richmond Ov@l. You will probably face a huge lump sum repair $$$, if it can be repairable, just like some of the newer condo now experiencing along Garden City (Cook and Westminster)

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-14 19:49

Er... the sinking problem you are talking about is a static problem. This could be forseen and taken care of if proper engineering assessment was done before construction. This is actually a very easy problem to deal with, esp. with the experience encountered at the oval.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-14 20:27

wow... your inputs are very valuable, I will have to discuss more with my parents before signing the contracts, you guys are AWESOME! Thanks!!!!!!!!

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-14 20:44

My engineering friend told me that the Richmond Ov@l already sinking a bit into the ground earlier t ...
liksook 發表於 2010-7-14 18:12

The developer said they already take this into account and claim that the whole project will be built on a platform like base that even it sinks, it won't lean to either side. the whole platform sink. I wonder if it's really works?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-14 22:05

Is Aberdeen center sinking we well?

作者: liksook 時間: 2010-7-14 23:04

回復 20# sheep

Everything can be in the plan. But the question is whether you want to take the risk. They can do all kinds of engineering assessment and predictions but at the end, the condo still sinks. It may not lean to either side but the walls and poles will crack over time. If you get a chance to see some of those condo (less than 5 years old) along Garden City and Katsura, some cracks are already visible on the first floor with the heaviest pressure. I know the whole Richmond is built on soft soil, but there are some particular area that should not be the locations for high apartments.

Buying a property is a gamble these days anyway but I won't want to be a part of that sinking problem.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-15 07:42

回復 22# liksook

Buying a property is a life time investment, better think twice

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-15 08:35

Haha....so now it will still sink but evenly....

Yeah the edges of Richmond have really really soft soil - my engineering friend told me soil in the city center is actually not that bad. But places like Steveston and where the Oval is will be a lot softer just because the water next to it is still running into it.

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-15 09:59

WTF... how does water keep running into it? Do you even know what you are talking about?

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-15 10:34

because the land is close to the river, the water flowing from the river constantly hits the soil on the side of the river, so it causes the soil to be "softer"...
hey i'm only the messenger, my friend told me about this.

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-15 11:30

Your friend is wrong on this then

作者: Eddie6 時間: 2010-7-15 15:54

Uh-oh... I actually live around Katsura & Garden City. Should I sell & move ?????

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-15 16:25

because the land is close to the river, the water flowing from the river constantly hits the soil on ...
Arlui 發表於 2010-7-15 10:34

Does the river bring sand and sediments and then deposit them on the river side? If this is the case, then the land near the river should be getting stronger over time.

作者: billleevanchi 時間: 2010-7-15 17:38

So many people worry about the soil of richmond but they still choose to live there becasue of the cheaper price and the Chinese environment.

作者: liksook 時間: 2010-7-15 17:45

Does the river bring sand and sediments and then deposit them on the river side? If this is the ca ...
peter236 發表於 2010-7-15 16:25

River will deposit sediments and rocks to the end of the delta stream which is now Richmond but it takes years or decades to stabilize the foundation. That's why center of Richmond is safe with a lot of developments whereas places near the water are still soft, relatively.

作者: liksook 時間: 2010-7-15 17:50

Uh-oh... I actually live around Katsura & Garden City. Should I sell & move ?????
Eddie6 發表於 2010-7-15 15:54

Look around ...

Northbound garden city road near that area - the right side of the road significantly sank as you can experience (way over developments in a short period of time)

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-16 08:22

River will deposit sediments and rocks to the end of the delta stream which is now Richmond but it ...
liksook 發表於 2010-7-15 17:45

Thanks liksook, you can explain it better than I can

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-16 13:56

Sounds like I shouldn't even consider Richmond... anyone has comments about South Survey's new houses? We are looking at those at the same time, but probably we will go for those ones near False Creek at the end, can't decide yet as my parents don't have good impression about downtown or False Creek, at first they like Richmond because easier to get food, but after all your comments about the soft soil I think we should consider it, anyone second this?

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-7-16 14:10

I second that and that's why I live at Burnaby. But I would still pick Richmond over Surrey.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-16 14:19

I like living in false creek. very convinent in getting around, especially w/ the canada line.

作者: liksook 時間: 2010-7-17 10:04

False Creek and Burnaby is good.

Burnaby is always known for one of the best run municipalities in Canada - go do a research on it. Good area planning, good council with minimal property tax increase each year (compared to vancouver

) and the best thing is that Burnaby is located at the center of everywhere ...

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-17 10:42

睇今日報紙
咁上下呎數西區同佢爭五十萬
地區, 屋 VS APARTMENT
自己諗

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-17 13:18

睇今日報紙
咁上下呎數西區同佢爭五十萬
地區, 屋 VS APARTMENT
自己諗
sheep 發表於 2010-7-17 10:42

so in your opinion, is 西區 better than Burnaby?

作者: biggie 時間: 2010-7-17 16:07

so in your opinion, is 西區 better than Burnaby?
samsung 發表於 2010-7-17 13:18

dude learn to read.
He's implying that houses in the west side are comparable in prices to these condos, which means these condos are over priced. I agree with him as well.

作者: billleevanchi 時間: 2010-7-17 21:07

pick a used apartment in central richmond, the pirce is more reasonable and more choices as well

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-18 00:06

Look around ...

Northbound garden city road near that area - the right side of the road signific ...
liksook 發表於 2010-7-15 17:50

wow... care to explain how the developments in that area affect the road surface?

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-18 00:12

btw... just FYI, some area in burnaby has something that is even softer than the organic silt/clay found in Richmond ROFL

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-18 13:30

btw... just FYI, some area in burnaby has something that is even softer than the organic silt/clay f ...
MSN04 發表於 2010-7-18 00:12

oh really? I never heard of it, mind to share whereabout? I'll try to avoid that....

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-18 13:31

pick a used apartment in central richmond, the pirce is more reasonable and more choices as well
billleevanchi 發表於 2010-7-17 21:07

but isn't it very noisy? those were too crowded wor...

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-18 13:32

dude learn to read.
He's implying that houses in the west side are comparable in prices to these c ...
biggie 發表於 2010-7-17 16:07

oic... I personally doesn't like West Side too much, we chose Richmond for the convenience of eating out (for parents)... what other options do we have?

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2010-7-18 23:19

本帖最後由 kingkong123 於 2010-7-18 23:22 編輯

river green 买唔过，买的人估计个脑入左水

oval都下沉啦，何况一个重oval甘多的建筑物，到时候五楼边一楼就过瘾了

发展商保证等于放屁，没保障的，除非他发展商够胆白纸黑字写明唔会下沉，唔会出现结构问题

家下的warrenty都是最多十年，十年后沉左点办？

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-19 08:55

because phase 1 is expected to be completed in 1 or 2 years? A lot of people still think that the market will go up, esp. when they made the purchase few months ago. (Yes, some people were able to get into deals before it was open to public.) These people are trying to sell before completion to make a profit.

But, I don't think we should comment on the settlements. There are a lot of reason why the oval settles more than expected. May be, the construction schedule did not allow enough surcharge duration. May be, they underestimated the foundation load. My point is, with good engineering, the long-term settlement can be minimized. And very likely, the engineers working on River Green will look at the data obtained from Oval to further calibrate their settlement model.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-7-19 15:26

btw... just FYI, some area in burnaby has something that is even softer than the organic silt/clay f ...
MSN04 發表於 2010-7-18 00:12

Second one what to know more details. Would that be along the Frazer river?

作者: biggie 時間: 2010-7-20 12:21

btw... just FYI, some area in burnaby has something that is even softer than the organic silt/clay f ...
MSN04 發表於 2010-7-18 00:12

very surprised

I thought Burnaby is mostly a mountain so the ground below is hard rock?
Unless you are referring to the patches of farm area near the river on marine drive.

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-20 21:17

Second one what to know more details. Would that be along the Frazer river?
B2L2 發表於 2010-7-19 15:26

Not along Fraser river.

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-20 21:23

very surprised

I thought Burnaby is mostly a mountain so the ground below is hard rock?
Unless yo ...
biggie 發表於 2010-7-20 12:21

Why are u surprised?  It is pretty well known.
Also, the ground below is not hard rock.  Where you get this info from?

This is what I find a bit stupid in this society.  People who does not have the background/knowledge always spread wrong information, such as Richmond is liquefaction paradise, Richmond has soft ground.  At one instance, I almost wanted to laugh when I heard some comment from a structural engineer regarding foundation.

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-7-21 09:32

http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca/MINING ... /Pages/geology.aspx

作者: biggie 時間: 2010-7-21 16:15

本帖最後由 biggie 於 2010-7-21 16:19 編輯

MSN04: Before you start ripping on others why don't you refer to the map. Isn't all of Richmond a "red" area, which mean it has soft soils?

Green: compact or stigg soils <15m thick and bedrock. Yellow: compact or stiff soils >15m thick; and loose or soft soils <15m thick. Red: Loose or soft soils > 15m thick. (Adapted from Ministry of Environment report, 1979).

Guess the person spreading wrong information is you?
/thread

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-7-21 22:15

MSN04: Before you start ripping on others why don't you refer to the map. Isn't all of Richmond a " ...
biggie 發表於 2010-7-21 16:15

Learn to read first, before you start bashing me.
RED means 15 m or more soft or LOOSE soils.
Loose soil is totally different from soil soft.

How am I the person spreading wrong information when I know, and you don't?

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-7-22 14:01

本帖最後由 B2L2 於 2010-7-22 14:05 編輯

People who does not have the background/knowledge always spread wrong information, such as ...Richmond has soft ground.
MSN04 發表於 2010-7-20 21:23

RED means 15 m or more soft or LOOSE soils.
MSN04 發表於 2010-7-21 22:15

Not sure who can't read.  The map said "Red: Loose or soft soils > 15m thick. "
Yes, loose soil is totally different from soft soil, but isn't loose soil even worse??  LOL.

MSN04, it could be very possible that you know more than any of us in this topic (from the way you express yourself).  However, why wouldn't you want to share what you know with LYK.  Is that some kind of secret that you can't share in the public??

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