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作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-20 23:47 標題: 最低工資系列毓民麵店員工被揭時薪低

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【最低工資系列】毓民麵店員工被揭時薪低，與自由黨同道，「狼狽為奸」
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自由黨及其相關人士過去對最低工資（時新）的取態如下：

* 張宇人－－$20-24

* 自由黨－－$24

* 田北俊－－$25

* 香港總商會－－$25

社民連、梁國雄及黃毓民曾炮轟自由黨，亦在人前瞓身力撐最低工資33元，言詞堅定，說$33時薪已是「退無可退的最後底線」，多番重申最低時薪33元是「絕不妥協」，僱主絕對有能力比得起，拒絕靠嚇，拒絕賴貓，言猶在耳......

不過近日有傳媒踢爆，黃毓民經營的麵店，卻離奇地「接納」了自由黨人士的方案，用他們建議的時薪聛請員工，廉恥黨有多廉恥，繼長毛鬧人瞓覺聲大大事件後，大家又再大開眼界。

最低工資「任我行」？自由黨「無間道」？

最低工資「任我行」，日月神教「黃幫主」

昔日長毛梁國雄一句「吸血食堂」，今日大家見到的「毓民屠房吸血麵店」。

蘋果日報踢爆，黃毓民麪店的員工時薪少於 33元，被指講一套做一套。

【蘋果日報】特稿：黃毓民麪店　被踢爆時薪低

為毓民麵店時薪低的事件護航，黃毓民的辯解內容如下：

1. 強調日後最低工資水平實施後，一定依法辦事，市民可以放心

2. 他沒有改變或轉軚，重申自己依然力撐最低工資時薪 33元，但妻子反對工時33元

3. 斷言「政府又點會畀 33蚊你？」又補充說「如果 27、 8蚊，我老婆應該 ok嘅」

4. 重申租金上漲「最攞命」，最低工資殺傷力不算很大

5. 明言「基層工人嘅權益一定要保障」

做戲在後頭，下回分解！請大家繼續留意本站！

再評：
此君反口覆舌的程度令人側目，比二五仔更為「反骨」，以後大家可以稱呼他做二五黃！

另外他看來已經「投自」（投奔自由黨），大家以後可以稱呼黃毓民為「自由黃」！

社民連可能已「暗道陳倉」，與自由黨有「枱底交易」，建議大家要求社民連提交一份報告，以釋公眾的疑慮。

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-7-21 00:12

$33不會通過的，掙取下有何妨？
就像HST一定通過，反對下有何妨？

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-7-21 00:15

33, who is willing to pay a 33 meal?

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 00:18

香港人既創作力真強.
如果可以將創作力用o係一d 正面既地方, 香港應該前途一片光明.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 00:21

$33不會通過的，掙取下有何妨？
就像HST一定通過，反對下有何妨？
ricrick 發表於 2010-7-21 16:12

你唔好同我講話$33蚊不會通過, 爭取一下又何妨... 我係全力支持$33蚊最低工資的!
低過33蚊我係唔會接受, 我唔會向阿爺妥協! 我唔會出賣香港既打工仔! 少一毫子我都唔會比個方案通過的!

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-7-21 00:28

喂，顛狗要爭取，點會吾七情上面大龍鳳交足戲
你小憂

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-21 00:32

This mad dog wong yuk man refuses to pay minimum wages to his workers. What is Lik going to say about this abuse incident?

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-21 00:34

This mad dog wong yuk man refuses to pay minimum wages to his workers. What is Lik going to say abou ...
peter236 發表於 2010-7-21 00:32

BINGO!!! This is the whole point! whatever he fight for, he hasn't acted as an example, just yelling is useless, if he cannot do it, how dare he say anything about it?????

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 00:35

總之我一定要$33蚊最低工資! 少個"崩" 我都唔支持!
七情上面大龍鳳交足戲? 我唔要交戲, 我要見血! 見血先至係革命!

(咁夠唔夠激)

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 00:37

BINGO!!! This is the whole point! whatever he fight for, he hasn't acted as an example, just yelli ...
samsung 發表於 2010-7-21 16:34

支持, 都有分身體力行上既支持, 同埋精神上既支持...

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-7-21 01:02

請人時25，吾可以無啦啦+ 35%人工，你公司有無加你甘多？
e+爭取$33，立左法略，米有理由law

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-21 01:04

首先，同麥記、大家樂、美心呢啲只係肯出 $18 - $19蚊嘅大企業來俾，毓民出 $25係高咗 4成咁滯。當成個行頭嘅市價都係咁低，而佢舖頭已經相對地高人工過其他咁多，咁究竟毓民係有定係無良心？唔好忘記，老麥、大家樂、美心等等呢啲佢哋嘅 economy of scale 其實令到佢地嘅營運成本遠遠咁低過小本經營嘅家庭生意。響無最低工資嘅立法之下，要可以響大企業嘅壟斷之下生存，夥計薪金高人地 4成其實已經相當唔容易。

而且，既然佢自己都係老闆，但都依然要爭取最低 $33，法例實施之後難道佢自己唔使加夥計人工咩？

響佢人工已經高過人地咁多嘅情況之下，我又真係唔覺得佢出 $25 同佢去爭取 $33 有咩關係囉？啲賤人要屈佢，咩臭屎都講得出口架啦？

同呢啲賤人，我只會講，你去「不該」啦～

-力

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 01:04

請人時25，吾可以無啦啦+ 35%人工，你公司有無加你甘多？
e+爭取$33，立左法略，米有理由law ...
ricrick 發表於 2010-7-21 17:02

如果我講, 我試過一炮加50%人工, 會唔會比人打?

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-7-21 01:08

如果我講, 我試過一炮加50%人工, 會唔會比人打?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-7-21 01:04

無啦啦+就一定比人打

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 01:13

首先，同麥記、大家樂、美心呢啲只係肯出 $18 - $19蚊嘅大企業來俾，毓民出 $25係高咗 4成咁滯。當成個行頭 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-7-21 17:04

力兄, 其實毓民間鋪o係邊一區? 如果係旺區, 人工係會高d, 尖咀既麥記既人工都會比天水圍麥記高 (當然, 我唔知尖咀麥記人工係幾多...) .25蚊一個鐘, 我估應該係洗碗呀姐, 樓面應該唔只呢個數既. d 傳媒係衰d, 專搵d 最低既野黎講, 麥記18-19蚊一粒鐘, 都應該o係天水圍果邊. 我覺得市區一定唔只呢個數, 佢地就偏偏針對人地既最低黎插.

點都好, 支持最低工資33蚊! 不妥協, 冇台底交易, 少個崩都唔通過~

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 01:15

無啦啦+就一定比人打
ricrick 發表於 2010-7-21 17:08

我諗最大既原因應該係我靚仔...

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-7-21 01:41

我諗最大既原因應該係我靚仔...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-7-21 01:15

甘米係law，無理由樣衰有得+ ga ma

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-7-21 02:11

為毓民麵店時薪低的事件護航，黃毓民的辯解內容如下：

1. 強調日後最低工資水平實施後，一定依法辦事，市民可以放心
點解毓民唔可以身先士卒立個榜樣給大家看？費那麼多口水不如以實際行動來證明時薪 33元是完全可行。

2. 他沒有改變或轉軚，重申自己依然力撐最低工資時薪 33元，但妻子反對工時33元
竟然無恥到要拿老婆出來當擋箭牌。將老婆擺上台－說自己老婆不明大義，扯他的後腿。如果毓民真是一個憂國憂民為民請命的人，相信他的老婆不會真的如此不明大義；毓民也不會真的能被老婆扯後腿！

3. 斷言「政府又點會畀 33蚊你？」又補充說「如果 27、 8蚊，我老婆應該 ok嘅」
又將老婆擺上台。如果老婆ｏｋ27、 8蚊，點解種唔係比27、 8蚊？

4. 重申租金上漲「最攞命」，最低工資殺傷力不算很大
既然最低工資殺傷力不算很大，為什麼不身先力行？廢話講多無益。

5. 明言「基層工人嘅權益一定要保障」
「基層工人嘅權益一定要保障」，支持！！！請毓民既時實行時薪 33元最低工資！

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-7-21 02:23

作者: KittyLeung74 時間: 2010-7-21 09:00

黃毓民,口水民,
講一套,做一套,
攪亂擋,出風頭,
得把聲,做新聞,
廢話多,無謂人!

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-21 09:46

力兄, 其實毓民間鋪o係邊一區? 如果係旺區, 人工係會高d, 尖咀既麥記既人工都會比天水圍麥記高 (當然, 我 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-7-21 01:13

Companies like Mcdonalds, Maxim, Cafe de Coral etc hire a lot students and part-time workers, therefore the wages are lower. But mad dog wong hires experienced full-time workers, so what he pays is just normal, not higher than what the others pay.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-21 11:47

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2010-7-21 11:50 編輯

點解毓民唔可以身先士卒立個榜樣給大家看？費那麼多口水不如以實際行動來證明時薪 33元是完全可行。
rockypath 發表於 2010-7-21 02:11

Yiu, stupid BS Rocky idiot. When his employees' wages are already a good 40% above what the big restaurants pay, how do you expect his business to survive if he is the only one paying $33/hr?! The fact that a $33/hr wage will affect him drastically while he still continues to actively advocate it shows the kind of character he is.

When the playing field has been leveled throught he min wage law, then of course Yuk Man will gladly go along la.

The rationale is so simple that I find it impossible for you to grasp. But of course, your intent has always only been to smear and badmouth the good guys. So to you I will say this -- go to hell la, PK.

-Lik

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-21 11:49

Companies like Mcdonalds, Maxim, Cafe de Coral etc hire a lot students and part-time workers, therefore the wages are lower. But mad dog wong hires experienced full-time workers, so what he pays is just normal, not higher than what the others pay.peter236 發表於 2010-7-21 09:46

LOL~

[Rocky mode]
Where's your evidence for this? Show us the proof! Show us the proof!
[/Rocky mode]

-Lik

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-7-21 11:55

But of course, your intent has always only been to smear and badmouth the good guys. So to you I will say this -- go to hell la, PK.

well at the same time you also defend these "good guys" relentlessly no matter what they do.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-21 12:04

支持, 都有分身體力行上既支持, 同埋精神上既支持...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-7-21 00:37

good... then he can support whatever, it's so easy, if the only thing he need to do is talk, no need to act:

1) he can fight for "no chicken in hk" but he calls chicken everyday
2) he can fight for "democracy" but himself is a dictactor if he is in the position one day (via voting, LOL)
3) he can fight for "no more shark's fin" but he eats shark's fin everyday
4) he can tell every other country to disarm but he owns weapons and keep developing & owning new weapons
etc etc etc

MJJ, I really like your statement, everyone can say: "I spiritually support it, but I will still do whatever I like", I think everybody loves this statement and support, it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy to do

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-21 12:06

well at the same time you also defend these "good guys" relentlessly no matter what they do.
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-7-21 11:55

good guys?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-21 13:34

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-7-21 13:37 編輯

LOL~

[Rocky mode]
Where's your evidence for this? Show us the proof! Show us the proof!
[/Rocky mo ...
Lik 發表於 2010-7-21 11:49

Where is your proof that mad dog wong is not hiring more expensive full-time workers? It is well-known that Mcdonalds hire students all over the world.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-7-21 16:34

The rationale is so simple that I find it impossible for you to grasp. But of course, your intent has always only been to smear and badmouth the good guys. So to you I will say this -- go to hell la, PK.
Lik 發表於 2010-7-21 11:47

Lik, when will you stop making a fool of yourself? Haven’t you embarrassed yourself enough?

不肯給３３元最低工資，總有千萬個理由來辯解。給３３元，只需要一個理由：

Do what he claims he has been doing and believes in what he said he has been believing in - 言詞堅定，說$33時薪已是「退無可退的最後底線」，多番重申最低時薪33元是「絕不妥協」，僱主絕對有能力比得起，拒絕靠嚇，拒絕賴貓.

Lik, please don’t talk about YOUR democracy in front of us. 你不配！Because you are truly a 如假包換的反民主份子。

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-21 17:27

well at the same time you also defend these "good guys" relentlessly no matter what they do.
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-7-22 03:55

呢d 應該係愛國愛黨愛人民既表現...

作者: csg836 時間: 2010-7-22 12:31

如果冇記錯, 上次新聞講, 大家樂, 美心好似有$23, $24 一個鐘. 唔係得十幾蚊. mcdonalds 就唔知啦.

i very super extreme dislike the Mr. Wong and Mr. Long Hair.

作者: csg836 時間: 2010-7-22 12:37

truly a 如假包換的反民主份子
rockypath 發表於 2010-7-21 16:34

[/quote]

MR. Wong and MR. Long Hair, if you agree with what they say, it is 民主. if you disagree, whatever u say is not 民主.
你唔同意佢就唔係民主.
民主何在? I dont see any from these people.

作者: Prelude 時間: 2010-7-22 12:49

本帖最後由 Prelude 於 2010-7-22 13:00 編輯

Let me rephrase:

To lik's logic, ANYTHING that Mr. Wong and Mr. Long Hair say is 民主.
If we don't agree to whatever they say, we are dog, pk, and not 民主.

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To be honest, Mr. Wong is a politician, 99% of politician lies. So, there is nothing wrong with that, I haven't nothing against Mr. Wong on this case, I am neutral. It's just the anti Mr. Wong media make this a such big deal (probably due to Mr. Wong's strong aggressive statements about min wage).

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On the hand, McD and other big brand name chain fast food do usually pay lower wage than everyone else. That's just economic common sense, which I can explain if Lik wants to learn respectably.

If anybody care about math, another thing is that EVEN IF Lik's number is true about the wage, $18 to $19 vs $25 is not 40% difference.
1. 25 - 18 = 7 difference. 7 / 18 = 38.9% which can be called 40% casually.
2. 25 - 19 = 6 difference. 6 / 19 = 31.6% which usually called 30% casually.
So, with both differences average out, it's around 35%.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-7-22 14:51

There are people Who will stand up to blindly defend 陳水扁的貪污枉法, and there will be people like Lik who would blindly support and defend whatever 黃毓民 and Long hair do!

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-22 15:05

There are people Who will stand up to blindly defend 陳水扁的貪污枉法, and there will be people like ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-7-22 14:51

yeah... Thanks Rocky, you helped me to understand Lik more day after day, before I'd liek to introduce a rich & pretty Taiwanese girl to him but after all these, I'll hold off

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-22 15:54

There are people Who will stand up to blindly defend 陳水扁的貪污枉法, and there will be people like Lik who would blindly support and defend whatever 黃毓民 and Long hair do!
於 2010-7-22 14:51

Blindly? LOL~

If you actually knew how to read, you would have saw my full explaination of why I do not see any conflict of interest between Yuk Man supporting $33/hr at the legislative level and his own $25/hr practice at his noodle house at this point.

The most important thing is -- knowing full well how the $33/hr wage will affect him, he is still fully in support of it. The functional constiutency dogs continue to propose/insist on anything between $20 - $27.

As to the dirt slinging, bad mouthing dogs here on the forum, I'm just gonna repeat what I've said before -- go to hell la, PK~

-Lik

作者: Prelude 時間: 2010-7-22 16:28

Blindly? LOL~

If you actually knew how to read, you would have saw my full explaination of why I d ...
Lik 發表於 2010-7-22 15:54

What if I say support $100/hr min wage? Then can I say You go to hell too?
If you don't agree my propose $100/hr, then you are China dog.

How do you like the same logic that you are proposing?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-22 16:47

If you were a business owner yourself AND that you are fully prepared to pay $100/hr to your employees, then by all means, you are totally free to call other people dogs as well when they don't support $100/hr.

The only problem is, you'd be called an idiot as well because $100/hr is unrealistic.

On the other hand, $33/hr is entirely acceptable.

-Lik

p.s. As an aside, LYKs are all aware of how you and Rocky's only intent are to smear dirt on Yuk Man, Mo Gor's good name. You have zero real intention to look at the heart of the matter for what it is. So as I was saying, go PK die la~

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-7-22 16:49

As Wong said, there's very little chance to have $33 established as min wage. As a result, he could go all out and vocally support this wage range for his political advantage.

作者: Prelude 時間: 2010-7-22 16:53

本帖最後由 Prelude 於 2010-7-22 16:56 編輯

If you were a business owner yourself AND that you are fully prepared to pay $100/hr to your employe ...
Lik 發表於 2010-7-22 16:47

Of course I will pay 100/hr if that has been passed, just like what Wong said. It's the law.
Do you support $100/hr?

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-7-22 17:39

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-7-22 17:40 編輯

Blindly? LOL~

If you actually knew how to read, you would have saw my full explaination of why I d ...
Lik 發表於 2010-7-22 15:54

Lik, you enjoy making a fool of yourself and I would not mind to be entertained.

First, I would like you to confirm to everyone on LYK – “Did 黃毓民 ever say he would be out of business if he gave his employee $33/hr?”

Let me teach you how to read what other people posted. 黃毓民 never said his business would go under if he raised the rate and said the raise would only have MINOR IMPACT on his business. The reason he did not give $33 is because his wife objected him to do so. Read the post again Lik. Lol

Second, when you accuse other people do not have business sense, would you mind to tell us whether you have any business experience at all?

I will tell you what I would do if I was黃毓民. I would raise the minimum pay to $35/hr right away ($2 higher than $33). Why I would do so and what 黃毓民 will gain by doing so?

First, he will 搶先佔領道德高度. 毓民面館變成“毓民良心面館”。黃毓民will become a 為民請命的英雄 and all Hong Kong people will know the name of his restaurant. Not only the local residents will 幫襯, people from distance as well. The business will prosper more than ever and 黃毓民 can even turn it into a franchise business.

Second, because黃毓民 sets an example and proves it is viable. Business owners, government officers and politicians will face stiff pressure and it becomes even more difficult to justify their recommendation of anything less than $33. The chance of passing $33 will increase dramatically.

Third, once the $33 becomes a law. 黃毓民 only pay $2 higher than the minimum wage and he continues to 佔領道德高度. “毓民良心面館”will become one of the biggest brand representing Hong Kong and the most successful franchises.

How do you feel, Lik?

Did I show why you have a poor defence of your case? Did you learn anything from what I showed you?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-22 17:53

做生意唔可以偏離現實

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-22 18:21

其實都冇乜好拗, 人地又冇犯法, 你吹得佢漲咩...

只係如果黃毓民一早行先一步, 將自己店舖既員工既人工加到最低時薪$33, 就可以搶先一步佔領呢個道德高地. 今次只係棋差一著, 比人捉到痛腳, 失策失策.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-7-22 18:24

做生意唔可以偏離現實
sheep 發表於 2010-7-23 09:53

咁閣下言下之意係唔係想講喊口號就可以偏離現實?
莫非你想講果d 支持最低33 只係一d 偏離現實既口號?

-- 一頭霧水既 MJJ

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-23 09:18

回復 43# mcjohnjohn

口號係理想
事實歸事實

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-7-25 12:40

Lik, when will you stop making a fool of yourself? Haven’t you embarrassed yourself enough?

不 ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-7-21 16:34

Nothing much to say but 101% Agree

Support!!!

Especially "Lik, please don’t talk about YOUR democracy in front of us. 你不配！Because you are truly a 如假包換的反民主份子。"

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-7-25 12:48

Lik, you enjoy making a fool of yourself and I would not mind to be entertained.

First, I would l ...
rockypath 發表於 2010-7-22 17:39

100% agree to your point 黃毓民 bull**** all the time. He and lik should suck his own dick for it.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-7-25 20:25

lik should suck his own dick for it.
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-7-25 12:48

Wah .. how do u know Lik has a LONG dick??

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-25 21:38

Wah .. how do u know Lik has a LONG dick??
Catpiano 發表於 2010-7-25 20:25

You know better?

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-7-28 14:56

Wah .. how do u know Lik has a LONG dick??
Catpiano 發表於 2010-7-25 20:25

i said he should suck his own dick.
how do you know Lik has a dick anyway you suck for him everyday?

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-28 15:04

Wah .. how do u know Lik has a LONG dick??
Catpiano 發表於 2010-7-25 20:25

long is useless if it's soft

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