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作者: chobit 時間: 2010-7-23 03:14 標題: Bye Bye STi, Hi Hi C4S

http://www.pbase.com/freelancerfoto/image/126767763

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-7-23 04:00

nice 911
the guy is you?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-7-23 06:42

U really like Blue car wor .. ^_^ not going to see much Blue 911 in Canada ....

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-7-23 08:31

nice rides!!

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-23 08:38

Looking good, but I thought you were trading the STI in?

-Lik

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-7-23 10:03

本帖最後由 BiscottiGelato 於 2010-7-23 10:04 編輯

aiya... u really bought the convertible one.... to carry baby....
and... u really bought the 4S... to drive this in snow.....

u should watch Top Gear S15E3...

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-7-23 10:47

本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2010-7-23 11:08 編輯

aiya... u really bought the convertible one.... to carry baby....
and... u really bought the 4S... t ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-7-23 10:03

Ok ga .. as long as using snow tire ..

Carry baby .. not really possible in Canada, as 911 Cab can't mount infant's seat.. (or you have a 5'2 wife)

You can order Porsche child seats & booster from Porsche US .. but they won't sell to Canadian ..

作者: celeron_266 時間: 2010-7-23 12:12

wow how can you guys earn so much money for these crazy cars....are you guys all professionals like doctors/accountants etc etc?

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-7-23 13:42

wow how can you guys earn so much money for these crazy cars....are you guys all professionals like ...
celeron_266 發表於 2010-7-23 12:12

You all? Only chobit and CP ja ma... Definately not me anyways.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-7-23 14:20

You all? Only chobit and CP ja ma... Definately not me anyways.
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-7-23 13:42

Way way .. why pull me to water?? I am just answering question and giving advice ja wor ..

I didn't announce what car I drive nor posing photos wor ..

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-7-23 14:46

本帖最後由 BiscottiGelato 於 2010-7-23 14:50 編輯

Way way .. why pull me to water?? I am just answering question and giving advice ja wor .. ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-7-23 14:20

No, just correcting celeron that a lot of you are just bling. But not me la

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-23 15:06

I didn't announce what car I drive nor posing photos wor
Catpiano 發表於 2010-7-23 14:20

Aiya C Hing, there is no point in denying it la. I've seen you in your Veyron, Murciélago, Carrera GT, Enzo, LF-A, and Bentley mah~

-Lik

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-23 16:26

回復 11# BiscottiGelato

Your car is good car too la..

Congrats to chobit! This blue is very unique!

作者: celeron_266 時間: 2010-7-23 17:23

本帖最後由 celeron_266 於 2010-7-23 17:33 編輯

mr. lik is rich too!! MX-5 is definitely not a cheap car!!

mr. CP: i think you used to have an STI too right?

作者: kits013 時間: 2010-7-23 18:01

nice car

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-7-23 18:53

Mr. H's car is faster than your car.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-7-23 21:19

本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2010-7-23 21:21 編輯

Aiya C Hing, there is no point in denying it la. I've seen you in your Veyron, Murciélago, Carrera ...
Lik 發表於 2010-7-23 15:06

And my Lada ? lol

Wah ... even remember my STi .. 6 yr ago la wor .. old LYK time ..

it was a good car la... I still like it.

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-7-24 00:05

Yeah, that was me in the photo. They actually trailer the car to my home, and they let me took a picture before the sti went into the trailer.
And I am not rich, just crazy. It is a used car, and us car is always a lot cheaper than Canada la.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-7-24 06:55

Wah ..  transport the car to your home .. and pick up your trade tim? So good service wor ..

Won't even get that service if you are trading in a F430 to F458 in Canada la..

Aiya, should sell the STI to us ar ma ..  US price is so much cheaper!

^_^

作者: celeron_266 時間: 2010-7-24 18:21

ahhh will i ever be like everyone here, driving crazy cars..(personally i would LOVE to have an STI ahahaha)

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-24 18:57

If you don't insist on buying new, there are a LOT of excellent cars a typical person can buy ga. The STI is definitely one of them.

-Lik

作者: celeron_266 時間: 2010-7-24 19:05

If you don't insist on buying new, there are a LOT of excellent cars a typical person can buy ga. Th ...
Lik 發表於 2010-7-24 18:57

hahaha i am BELOW typical la...spending every penny for school now

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-24 20:37

hahaha i am BELOW typical la...spending every penny for school now
celeron_266 發表於 2010-7-24 19:05

And that is perfectly fine. When you're in school, you're supposed to be investing in your future instead of blowing your $$ on some fancy car. You should be driving the cheapest POS you can afford right now.

-Lik

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-7-25 00:48

Yeah, that was me in the photo. They actually trailer the car to my home, and they let me took a pi ...
chobit 發表於 2010-7-24 00:05

how much is the new one you got?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-7-25 09:39

how much is the new one you got?
yayaya 發表於 2010-7-25 00:48

Mud gum ga .. ask $$$ / price again ..

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-7-26 21:50

Don't know, because I didn't buy a new one =P

how much is the new one you got?
yayaya 發表於 2010-7-25 00:48

作者: jj123van 時間: 2010-7-29 21:10

Congratulations!

I seem to have met quite a few people who also moved from an Impreza to a 911 (including myself

)

It's definitely a fun car, enjoy!

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-4 03:17

how much is the used C4S? thought you said you're trading in your STI??
You should try the new PDK before you brought this old c4s imo but anyways since you already got it.
Enjoy

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-8-4 13:35

Price is alright, and I am sure you an find lot of info online.

While the PDK is awesome, it just isn't something as compariable to the experience with the stick.

My guess is I won't be driving a stick forever, so when the time comes.. I will be back to some kind of semi-auto.

So far, I have quite some fun with it.  My car has the PASM and Sport and PSM.

The PASM makes the suspension stiffer, which does provide me with more feedbacks, but then when it's in normal mode, it is so much more confortable than my STi.  The sport button change the throttle response, which make your car feels faster.., I can't say it's good to have it on all the time, but it makes the car more fun to drive with it on as well.  I tested with PSM off (Porsche Stability Managerment) this morning taking a slow speed corner which I do with my STi daily.  Finally, I can gain back the fun from my STi, which allows the back ends to losen a little.

Honestly speaking, I am not a good enough driver to share like those who track & autoX their cars monthly or at least few times a year.  But those are my experiences so far..!  And I plan on putting out a mini review once I get to know my car a little more.

how much is the used C4S? thought you said you're trading in your STI??
You should try the new PDK b ...
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-8-4 03:17

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-8-4 15:20

nice ride, waiting for your review.

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-4 17:02

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-4 17:03 編輯

Price is alright, and I am sure you an find lot of info online.

While the PDK is awesome, it just i ...
chobit 發表於 2010-8-4 13:35

My frd has a turbo 08 with manual and i drove his car for a day before i brought my C2S 09' PDK.  I would say PDK is a faster transmission and feels a lot better.  I used to drive a E46 M3 with manual was quite tired with it and very often i stuck in traffic.
My car has PASM too when PSM is off is a little scary since my car is not all wheel drive. It feels like the car was a little off balance when comes to corners.  But generally i think PDK is alot better than the old tiptronic and even the manual imo.
Maybe you should try the PDK sometimes and tell me how you feel about it. I think i'll go for a C4 or C4S when the new 911 comes.  Would be nice to have a C4S/turbo/turbo S with PDK. Anyways i think the manual wasn't too bad but not a everyday car for me.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-4 17:07

PDK is better then manual and tiptronic ..

However, not mean the "best" fit tranny for everyone, just like 911 is not the best overall car in the world, people buy them since they want it.

For richmond C9, then auto (pdk) is good .. almost a must .. lol!

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-4 20:05

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-4 20:11 編輯

PDK is better then manual and tiptronic ..

However, not mean the "best" fit tranny for everyone, j ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-8-4 17:07

Other than style can you name any other sports cars that has better performance/handling than the porsche 911 at its price?

Manual is good so as PDK but PDK is new and faster transmission. PDK is similar to the F1 transmission and gives better respones compare to the standard transmission. Also it's more ideal for everyday driving.

I'll only recommand people who can affort a PDK 911 to try it before they decide getting the standard transmission.

For stupid people who thinks PDK is "almost a must" for C9. Thats probably the funniest sh1t i've ever heard. I know many C9 at the age of 50-60ish are still driving standard transmission. Since automatic wasn't popular back 30+ years ago and peopke get used to the standard transmission. The funny thing is that very often you see kids at age 17-25 have more speeding tickets/car crush than those C9. What a shame

If porsche mainly target PDK for C9. I guess it would be a shame to get the new GTR that comes with a STANDARD double clutch transmission.

Since you said (pdk) auto is "almost a must" for C9

Please tell me more about PDK when you actually have a "chance" to drive a 911 PDK.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-4 20:29

Sigh ..  suen ba la..

This is EL's thread ..

I said "AUTO" is almost a must for C 9  .. not said PDK is a must for C 9, but since PDK/DSG/F1 shift etc is the only kind of "automate" tranny for sports cars .. so if a C 9 is buying a M3 or Porsche, they HV to pick DSG/PDK. (no TRADITIONAL auto now)

Again, I do agree PDK/DSG is a better/faster tranny, but is it more fun?  it depends, look at GT3/GT3 RS/GT2/GT2 RS, NO PDK! even with PDK, same car can be 0.2-0.3 sec quicker on straight, and 5 second quicker at the ring....

Just like C4S vs C2S, some prefer C2S, some prefer C4S.

Anyway, pass this back to EL, I dont want to steal his thread ..  even he doesn't mind.

Again, most people buy 911 is not for speed. ( ie: used 993 is MORE/AS expensive as used 997, and it is not faster, a good RS, still worth ~ $200K)

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-4 21:02

Other than style can you name any other sports cars that has better performance/handling than the porsche 911 at its price?
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-8-4 20:05

How about something that is cheaper than the 911?

The Corvette ZR1 is much, much cheaper than the 911, but it is every bit as fast, and probably easier to handle at the limit than the 911 b/c of the 991's inherent imbalance.

Also, don't forget that the Cayman is a car intentionally crippled by Porsche to not beat out the 911. Equipped with an LSD, a Cayman S would be easily faster than a rear drive 911 in tighter courses.

Don't be a badge snob and think that Porsches are the be-all-end-all sports cars la~

-Lik

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-4 21:10

LIK,

I think u mean ZR1 is cheaper then 911 Turbo and GT3 ... but not cheaper then NORMAL 911... (about same as C2S / 4S loaded ) Z06 is something cheaper and faster then 911.

U don't need much on a Cayman S, for you and me, with Cayman S will hv better lap time ....

911C2S used to be faster then C4S on track .. but not anymore la...

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-8-4 23:22

Yes, I don't mind at all.  I rather we have more LYK actively talking & sharing...!
Now back to my own topic.
I m not a car expert like many of you are, and speed is not the only factor I look at.  It all about driving experience, and to be able to enjoy driving it each time I enter into the car.  The C4S works for me.
For total performance, I can easily spend another $10-$15K on my STi, and turn it into a AWD beast.  Don't forget that I already had good aftermarket suspension on it.  But no matter what I do, I can't turn my STi into a convertible.  So, in order for me to find AWD, Convertible, 4 seated with relatively good performance (Handling, but not just), I think the C4S has it all.

Now, back to the PDK vs 6-speed.  I kind of know what to expect on the PDK, cuz my wife RDX has paddle shift, and I have been in my friend's Ferrari with F1 2 years ago.  It's not so much about speed, but it's too video game feels.  Driving a stick is all about perfecting my shifting, and heel-toe, rev match.  it's the involvement in driving.  I know I will have more fun driving a 200HP stick than a 400HP auto.  So, no GT-R for me.
It's true that I do get the bonus here in Seattle, where I do get to have alot more fun driving , instead of getting stunk in traffic.  I actually have a good mix of Hwy speed, on/off ramp, local roads with some twisty + up/down hills in my 30 mins driving To & From work.

Like I said before, I know I will eventually have a car that would be using some sort of advance auto tranny, but the time is not right now...!

My Wish:  I will have a daily drive stick or auto inexpensive fun car to drive, the 2nd would be a Ferrari with F1

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 02:10

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-5 02:13 編輯

$130000 Corvette ZR1 is much much cheaper than 911?

Porsche has better stability/handling/connection between the road and driver which ZR1 can never achieve. For high performance sports cars are not just about the "speed". Even a low price STI can be really fast but thats totally different when compare with the 911 series.

911 customers are paying for the quality not just the " Porsche badge " not just the speed and not just the appearence. Is the "Overall driving experience" we're talking about. For its price i think only GTR might be more close when comes to handling and quality of driving experience.

Simply watching videos/playing video games won't give you the actual feeling of a Porsche.

The people who own a 996/997 before should know what im talking about and for those who never drove a 911 before can never understand the "driving experience"

Cayman S is more than a poor man's 911.
So talk to me when you have money for a used Cayman S.

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 02:24

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-5 02:29 編輯

Yes, I don't mind at all. I rather we have more LYK actively talking & sharing...!
Now back to my o ...
chobit 發表於 2010-8-4 23:22

Didn't check your last post anyways we have similar thoughts.
Porsche - Quality driving experience.

PDK is different than just paddle shifting and don't get me wrong i like the standard too but thats not an ideal everyday drive for me. I would like to have a manual for my Second car and PDK/similar transmission for everyday drive.
Anyways all im saying is try out the PDK when you have time and see how it feels maybe you'll like it or maybe not. Thats a very personal preference but many of my frds with manual cars likes the PDK after driving my car around.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-5 07:00

Cayman S is more than a poor man's 911.

Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-8-5 02:10

That part, yes, totally agree, 911 is a RR car to start with, can hardly touch MR layout .. it is amazing how Porsche's engineer can make the 911 "right".

I already explain for Lik about the ZR1/Z06 pricing, and you are right, 911 is not just about speed nor track performance, but the overall experience, that is why, some people pick manual, some pick PDK. (Tip before)

It is very true that Vancouver market, MCL sells more PDK 911 then manual 911 now, don't get me wrong, and again, PDK/DSG etc are great gear box, not just because it is quicker to do 0-60mph, but super fast downshifting as well, but will get boring soon compare to manual. (esp with short shift)

Again, doesn't matter if Lik is driving a Miata, he may or may not be able to afford a used Cayman, no big deal. I do know someone who has few Ferrari & Porsche, (430 Scud, 599) and his daily driving car is a Camry Hybrid.

Just my 2 cent.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-5 08:57

So talk to me when you have money for a used Cayman S.
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-8-5 02:10

What good does your Porsche do when the driver has no idea of how to take it anywhere close to its limits? Driving is so much more than straightline acceleration and street racing. If I were your car, I'd be crying and bemoaning of how my driver has no idea of how to tap into my potential~

-Lik

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-8-5 09:57

Davidcopperfeel: Don't assume Lik doesn't have the $ for a Cayman S. Able to afford and wanting to spend are 2 diff things. Maybe he got better cars, who knows. We all know there are many rich lurkers in the LYK forums pretending that they are poor LOL.

Lik: Don't assume Davidcopperfeel doesn't have performance driving experience. I'd say more Porsche owners (as a percentage) hit the track than most Japanese car brands' owners. The statistics is against you.

Stereotype is just nasty stuff. Get back to the cars guys.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-5 11:00

BG,

Yeah .. I know Lik is actually a big baller!

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-5 12:46

BG,

Yeah .. I know Lik is actually a big baller!
Catpiano 發表於 2010-8-5 11:00

Ya, didn't you know my other ride is a white Escalade riding on 25" bling bling wheels?

But CP is the one with 20 super cars hidden in his high tech underground garage la~ It's just that he likes to keep a low profile gum je~

-Lik

作者: jj123van 時間: 2010-8-5 13:11

Don't assume Lik doesn't have the $ for a Cayman S. Able to afford and wanting to s ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-8-5 09:57

I definitely agree.

Don't judge people by what they wear or what they drive. For me, I loved Porsches since I was a child.... because of the unfair stereotyping for people who owns pricier cars... I made myself waited until last year to finally buy my first 911 (being afraid of being judged as a spoiled kid or farmers) . I'm a big fan of cars, doesn't matter if it's Tata or Bugatti, I just really enjoy studying about each car.

Can't we just keep this forum clean and friendly, where car guys and gals come and talk about car stuff.

And..... stop giving Porsche owners a bad reputation! Majority of Porsche owners I met are just genuine, down-to-earth car nuts.

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-8-5 15:59

Not sure if I am dead wrong.. but buying a relatively luxury car in North America is actually not that difficult...! You just have to work hard, and not over spend...!

Average low level income is probably around $35,000-, if you would to save $750 a month for 5 years. You have a saving of $45,000-

That's probably enough to lease/finance yourself many high performance used cars

If you start this at age of 24, you should archive your goal before 30 years old.

So, honestly speaking, you don't have to be rich to do so, just matter of priority.

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 16:19

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-5 16:22 編輯

What good does your Porsche do when the driver has no idea of how to take it anywhere close to its ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-5 08:57

I never said Lik can't affort a used Cayman S, but please go get yourself a porsche before talking sh1t here.

Lik , You can never judge the car when YOU NEVER EVEN SIT ON IT.

While we disscus the driving experience of porsche here. I don't get why a Miata owner is trying to be Porsche Professional.

I'm happy to race with you on a race track . Name me the place and time. Just don't cry when you lose because you don't have a Cayman S.

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 16:24

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-5 16:37 編輯

Not sure if I am dead wrong.. but buying a relatively luxury car in North America is actually not th ...
chobit 發表於 2010-8-5 15:59

Agree but some people can't even save that $750 every month eventually they started the "hate" because they can never get what they wanted.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-5 16:32

I'm happy to race with you on a race track . Name me the place and time. Just don't cry when you lose because you don't have a Cayman S
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-8-5 16:19

August 26, 2010 -- UBCSCC Track Day #3
September 27, 2010 -- VCMC Track Day #2

Both track days are held at Mission Raceway, but they are just that -- track days, so it isn't about racing. But if you want to try your hands at a timed event, you are more than welcomed to try your driving out at the VCMC or or UBCSCC autox events.

I'll very likely be at the September VCMC event. So I'll see you there? (Don't talk shxt and chicken out now wor?

)

-Lik

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 16:37

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-5 17:01 編輯

I definitely agree.

Don't judge people by what they wear or what they drive. For me, I loved ...
jj123van 發表於 2010-8-5 13:11

Lik likes to pretend a PRO for everything. He attacks 90% of my posts no matter what i wrote he'll chase me like a dog. He'll reply anything just to attack for no reason.
Myself never attacked him but defencing his replies. I really hope he can get over it since i never started the conversation with him. What he does is making 20+ posts everyday trying to be Pro/Attack people here but nothing else. I wonder if he has a job or still in high school.

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 16:40

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-5 16:48 編輯

August 26, 2010 -- UBCSCC Track Day #3
September 27, 2010 -- VCMC Track Day #2

Both track days are ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-5 16:32

What kinda car do you drive? Model Year? Color?

I'll video record your face.

My frds would love to know how you look like.

PLEASE DONT TELL ME IS NOT FAIR BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A PORSCHE

I won't be proud just because kicking your ass but please don't cry because you don't have a damn good car to race.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-5 16:58

Well, you said it yourself. I drive a POS 90's Miata ar mah. Come show up and whoop my a$$ law.

-Lik

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 17:07

Well, you said it yourself. I drive a POS 90's Miata ar mah. Come show up and whoop my a$$ law.

...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-5 16:58

WHY Don't you tell all of us What kinda car you drive

Which Model and year? What color? I don't know if someone is gonna rent/borrow another car just to show me on that day.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-5 17:22

Aiya .. a faster car, not always faster on track ga ...

Even u give me a lambo ... vs a pro driver with a miata ... can beat me!

EL: your "average" income can drive luxury car is correct in USA .. not in Canada la.. (ok, western Canada)

Payment for a Boxster can be as long as ~ $600US/month, vs $1200/month in Canada.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-5 18:02

The purchase price of used Boxsters aren't very expensive at all. High $20k to $30k-ish can already get you a recent model (2005-ish?) la. Older ones are even cheaper.

But, as with everything Porsche, maintenance costs are pretty expensive. Bigger maintenance jobs will require having the engine dropped, so even when you don't consider the costs of replacement parts, labour alone won't be cheap la.

-Lik

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 18:23

Well, you said it yourself. I drive a POS 90's Miata ar mah. Come show up and whoop my a$$ law.

...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-5 16:58

WHY Don't you tell all of us What kinda car you drive

Which Model and year? What color? I don't know if someone is gonna rent/borrow another car just to show me on that day.

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-5 18:37

The purchase price of used Boxsters aren't very expensive at all. High $20k to $30k-ish can already ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-5 18:02

2005+ boxsters at High $20k to $30kish???

err Please tell us where you can find 2005+ boxsters at $20k to $30k in Vancouver BC???

Maintenances costs are pretty expensive?

Actually i do agree to your point than why bother dreaming of having a porsche if you Can't even affort the maintenance fee?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-5 21:00

$30k-ish 2005 Boxsters:
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/1881552611.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/1877503444.html
呢兩個係叫價，成交價就點都有多少鬆動，亦即係我所講嘅 high $20k - $30k啦？

盲丙，唔撚知價就唔該你自動收口，咪出來獻醜啦～

Boxster, Cayman, 911做親大 service 都要釣副偈落來，再裝返上。咁樣搞一搞唔知要幾多個鐘呢？而就算唔返原廠做，出面街啲整 Porsche 嘅車房做 Porsche 嘅時候一般都會收貴啲。再加波子特貴 parts（佢連換油都要 9-10L synthetic，而唔係一般車嘅 4-5L 恐龍油），條數不如你計俾我睇仲好啦？

同你講咁多真係教精咗你。不過我諗就算今次袋咗錢入你袋，下次你都會繼續講啲戇車野來再次出醜嘅。

-力

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-5 21:19

Lik gor .. high 20K range .. is a bit low la.. may be in US, or high km one ..

But $30K range does make sense, (private deal, no warranty, may be grey import US car)

As you said, buying one isn't hard, some late 90's Boxster are under $20K, and they are still great car, however, service cost can be high, but good thing for living in Vancouver is, if you want to save $ from your pocket, you can drive to US for service, (and do shopping etc in the same time) ie: oil service is only ~ $300US, vs $500Cad, tire/brake etc are all 20-40% less down south ..

Depends what you compare la.. compare to Ferrari/Lambo .. still much much more "reasonable", even compare to Lotus/AM/Bentley etc .. most service, no longer need to "釣副偈落來" ga la.. most the work can be done from UNDER, just take both rear wheel/penals off .. service cost probably same or slightly more then M6/M5.

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-8-5 23:53

I know I will stick with my Porsche with warranty only at this point.  MY CPO is going to offer me a good 2 years, then I'll make sure to pay $3-4K for extended warranty (3-4 years).

I don't quite know how much it is for service.., but I know tires will cost me a lot...!  I am expecting it will cost me 2x as much than my STi.  Afterall, I spent so much on my STi tires, and aftermarket parts...  Since I won't be mod. the Porsche, I think I am pretty safe in the area..!
Honestly, I kind of lost track on how inexpensive it is to service some cheaper cars.... !  My wife RDX is still service at the dealership, and it's does cost about $250ish each time.  My Subaru cost about $200 average as well, and that excluding bring my own Amsoil oil and filter which is close to $100 in expenses.
A side note.  My trade-in my Subaru knowing that I need a new clutch works, which will cost me about $1.6K, then I'll be doing my 60,000miles service probably next year.., I take that as a saving picking up my Porsche.. (My excuse to my wife haha)

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-6 00:37

When it comes to high performance cars, you can't avoid the tire costs la. First of all, their sizes and dimensions almost automatically mean they're gonna be more expensive. Secondly, you want to get the most out of your high performance car ar mah, so it makes sense to get some sticky summer rubber. The best ones certainly don't come cheap ga.

-Lik

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-6 02:09

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-6 02:23 編輯

$30k-ish 2005 Boxsters:

呢兩個係叫價，成交價就點都有多少鬆動，亦即係我所講嘅 high $20k - $30k啦？
...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-5 21:00

Ohh damn you're talking about the 05 boxsters on "Craigslist"???????

the 2 boxsters that don't even have xenon lights?? hahaaahh OMFG is that where you bought your crappy 90s Miata?? Poor Lik

Then where are the $20k-ish 05+ boxsters??

Where did they go??? huh??

and Ohh i'm so sorry i've never checked "Craigslist" for USED cars and by the way i've never own any USED cars in my life.

By the way did you said Lik: "Boxster, Cayman, 911做親大 service 都要釣副偈落來，再裝返上????

OMFG you're a TRUE Porsche Engineer

- you win

Is that why you said 袋錢入我袋???? Lik: "同你講咁多真係教精咗你。不過我諗就算今次袋咗錢入你袋，下次你都會繼續講啲戇車野來再次"出醜"

I really don't know who is 出醜 here while people here discussing about Porsche 911 and Miata Lik is trying to give us a Porsche lesson here

For someone who can't even affort the Maintenances fee of a car is trying to TEACH ME how PORSCHE ENGINE WORKS ????? and Lik make sure you do some research about Porsche next time before 出醜 again damn i can't stop my laugh

Hope you will get your 05 boxster SOON on Craigslist

Gratz

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-6 06:49

本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2010-8-6 06:54 編輯

I know I will stick with my Porsche with warranty only at this point. MY CPO is going to offer me a ...
chobit 發表於 2010-8-5 23:53

Anyway... another plus for you, as you are living in the US ... paying ~1/2 price for tire compare to us! say a 305/30/19 performance tire, ~ $600 plus here, plus $200 labour to install (4) vs ~ $300-350 in US, and $80 to install ...

Davidcooper: I already addressed what Lik said, older RR Porsche do need to drop down the engine for most the work, but not newer one, same as Older Ferrari/Lambo. By the way, don't STEP on people with miata, no matter you drive Porsche, Lambo or Bentley, Miata is a damn good car.

作者: jj123van 時間: 2010-8-6 09:15

By the way, don't STEP on people with miata, no matter you drive Porsche, Lambo or Bentley, Miata is a damn good car.
Catpiano 發表於 2010-8-6 06:49

Can't agree more!

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-6 09:40

Ohh damn you're talking about the 05 boxsters on "Craigslist"??????? the 2 boxsters that don't even have xenon lights?? hahaaahh OMFG is that where you bought your crappy 90s Miata?? Poor Lik Then where are the $20k-ish 05+ boxsters?? Where did they go??? huh??
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-8-6 02:09

Moron,
Your original challenge (albeit a stupid one) to me was that a high $20k - $30k Boxster wasn't available in Vancouver at all, and my two postings have clearly dispelled your ignorance. If you still want to come back and talk crap about Craigslist, go right ahead. In this day and age, Craigslist is an extremely popular and effective form of classified ads. To discredit it the way you did only further shows how ignorant you are.

Rich bastards with no class will always have no class. You are a living proof of what it means to be 窮得只剩下錢. Oh well~

To CP:
Tires in the States are certainly much, much, MUCH cheaper than what we have here in Canada. Heck, a (Canadian) tire retailer once said that for many tires, their invoice prices are already HIGHER than the US retail price. Fortunately for many of us that live close to the border, we can still enjoy the benefits of cheap US tires by buying there.

-Lik

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-6 17:14

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-6 17:28 編輯

Moron,
Your original challenge (albeit a stupid one) to me was that a high $20k - $30k Boxster wasn ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-6 09:40

What is 窮得只剩下錢?

I don't get you Mainland China Moron. I know you love Mainland china alot but sorry i can't understand your China language. 窮得只剩下錢?? We hongkong people will never write/speak like that.

Don't always try to pretend a honger when you write sht like that 窮得只剩下錢.

hahhahahahhaaaa very funny when i see you write stuffs like that. You made me laugh all the time China Lik

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-6 17:15

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-6 17:23 編輯

Moron,
Your original challenge (albeit a stupid one) to me was that a high $20k - $30k Boxster wasn ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-6 09:40

Hey you WANNA-BE boxster owner. You know very little about cars but trying to sound like a Porsche engineer and that really disgust me.

Any retarded can private sell their basic(no xenon light) 05 boxster at 30-ish price.

Seriously Private sells are bullsh1t when you're buying a " Porsche " a real car not talking a "cell phone" here.
They could be scammers/US import cars/way too many unknown Mods/have no idea what they've changed and what they've done to the car/no warranties after buying from them/could be lots of damage inner of the engine/suspenion when you bring your car to servies.

Didn't wanna explain this thought everyone KNEW IT

(Thought you should knew the basics when you moron is trying to be a PORSCHE ENGINEER)

I'm not saying "Craigslist" is bad for buy/selling cars but thats not my taste. Go Enjoy buying your 05 boxster from "Craigslist"-  Mr Lik

Last i never said Miata was bad or anything but its just not a porsche alrite. Is very hard for me to stop my laughs when you retard never own/drive a porsche is telling me what porsche is like and many of your informations you've said weren't even correct.

I don't give a sh1t to your Miata/whatever car you drive really but before trying to be a PRO on a " Porsche 911 thread " Please do some research first. Or AT LEAST DRIVE THE CAR FIRST BEFORE Leaving COMMENTS.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-6 23:08

Oh well... a person with no class will always be a person with no class~ I guess it's my fault after all to expect a classless person to have any sort of depth or personal sophistication

And honestly, it's really difficult to read and understand your posts because your grammar is so poor. Nobody expects you to write perfect English here, but at least make it less difficult for others to read, you know?

than, then
disgust, disgusts
it's, its, is
you is
informations

-Lik

作者: jj123van 時間: 2010-8-6 23:33

DISCLAIMER!!!

Not all Hong Kong guys who drives a Porsche is a butthole.

Please do not give me dirty looks if you see an innocent White 997.2 driven by a friendly Hong Kong guy. (....Me! )

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-6 23:37

Oh well... a person with no class will always be a person with no class~ I guess it's my fault after ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-6 23:08

What is 窮得只剩下錢? I don't get you Mainland China Moron. I know you love Mainland china alot but sorry i can't understand your China language. 窮得只剩下錢?? We hongkong people will never write/speak like that.

Don't always try to pretend a honger when you write sht like that 窮得只剩下錢.

hahhahahahhaaaa very funny when i see you write stuffs like that. You made me laugh all the time China Lik.

Can SOMEONE PLEASE TRANSLATE THIS FOR ME?? 窮得只剩下錢??

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-8-6 23:40

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-8-6 23:48 編輯

Oh well... a person with no class will always be a person with no class~ I guess it's my fault after ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-6 23:08

Thanks for reminding me that i'm not at your level/class. I've never worry about the maintenances fee before buying a car. Sorry for not able to understand your 90s Miata level. I wish i can drive a 90s Miata like you everyday. It's such a nice car. Is quite hard to find one at it's age nowadays. I wish i can drive your car everyday LIKE YOU.

Please don't tell me you're at age 30 or above. Or i will be way too jealous of your SUCCESS AT YOUR AGE. How successful you're to own a 90s Miata and give me a free lesson on how Lik: "Boxster, Cayman, 911做親大 service 都要釣副偈落來，再裝返上." You know what i can't be more jealous of you but too bad i know we're at different stages

damn i wish i have a 1990s Miata like Mr Lik

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-8-7 02:05

Hey cool down guys.. or gals....!
I really doesn't matter what we drive, and what we do, being a better person is far more than that..!  I know I can't stop this from happening on a public forums.., but I do get tire seeing all these name calling.  It was alright at first... but it gets old pretty quick...!

As for Lik, you comparison with a Porsche to other performance cars or Cayman, does seem to show your lag of personal experience with these performance cars.  It's like I can tell you how great Kobe beef is all day long, but it still impossible for you to get it until you actually try it first hand...!

BTW, Cooperfield, don't forget I had a 99 Miata (and my best friend had a Miata for a couple of years too).  We love Miata, and they are some of the best japanese handling car available which are very capable for racing.  Check out some of the spec Miata racing here in the US.  It's actually very fun to drive a Miata because of it low weight, smaller size.  You can toss it around like no tomorrow, and it's very forgiving, and easy to drive..!  And it is very very cheap to keep up the maintain. with them.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-7 06:55

Well said EL .. every car has different character ... a 599 is better looking and better performance then a Camry, but to some people, Camry is a better car..

Something like 370Z, 335iS etc, are great value sporty car, and they are not bad on track, can keep up with 911, 430 etc, but laps after laps ..  can see why Porsche/Ferrari cost more la...

Anyway, keep this thread peaceful la.. some people just drive a RSX, some people drive 911 .. mojority people, car is just transportation..  ^_^

Just like some girls don't mind to use Coach handbags, some can afford H bags ... no gid deal wor!

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-8-7 19:26

I really doesn't matter what we drive, and what we do, being a better person is far more than that..!chobit 發表於 2010-8-7 02:05

I can't agree this line anymore.

I'm over 30 and I do own a 92 Miata which I never consider as a POS. You could said whatever you want, but still nothing make you a better person than anyone else.

If a person need to show his expensive ride to prove his status, it only means he doesn't have other better quality to show. Mr Davidcopperfeel, I don't think you're such a person, so please don't act like that.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-7 19:40

Well said EL .. every car has different character ... a 599 is better looking and better perform ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-8-7 06:55

Chinese should use Chinese designed and made handbags.

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-8-7 19:57

How come nobody mention GTR? It beats or ties with 911 turbo on track bor...according to some reviews.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-7 20:14

How come nobody mention GTR? It beats or ties with 911 turbo on track bor...according to some revie ...
shutterbug 發表於 2010-8-7 19:57

Different class ar c hing .. I have chatted to you about that before ga la..

Actually, I did mention Z06 and GTR, 2 good value high performance car ..

If you want to be HOT White CHICKS magnet? --> Vette

Wanna be south east asian girls magnet? --> GTR

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-8-7 21:15

No wonder Aaron Kwok always drives his matte black GTR

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-7 22:31

Different class ar c hing .. I have chatted to you about that before ga la..

Actually, I ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-8-7 20:14

How about a Chinese high performance car?

作者: spoonek4 時間: 2010-8-7 22:57

I can't agree this line anymore.

I'm over 30 and I do own a 92 Miata which I never consider as a ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-8-7 19:26

同意

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-8-8 01:29

Hey.. nice seeing you here Spoonek4 =P

同意
spoonek4 發表於 2010-8-7 22:57

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-8-8 08:10

No wonder Aaron Kwok always drives his matte black GTR
shutterbug 發表於 2010-8-7 21:15

He can drive whatever la....

作者: spoonek4 時間: 2010-8-8 19:20

Hey.. nice seeing you here Spoonek4 =P
chobit 發表於 2010-8-8 01:29

你真係客氣喇師傅

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