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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-3 09:04 標題: 中國富豪怕捐款拒見蓋茨

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中國富豪怕捐款拒見蓋茨 (12:07)

微軟創辦人蓋茨和股神巴菲特邀50名中國富豪出席聚會，但部分富豪擔心當場被要求承諾捐款，婉拒邀約。

蓋茨和巴菲特將於9月29日到訪中國，游說中國富豪加入他們的「慈善聯盟」。

據《重慶晚報》報道，負責籌辦聚會的蓋茨中國基金會表示，聚會將在北京的豪華酒店舉行，屆時約50名受邀的中國富豪，將參加蓋茨和巴菲特的「閉門私人聚會」。

蓋茨基金中國項目主任葉雷表示，在發出邀請後，「有一小部分人最後拒絕了參加聚會」。近十天以來，受邀請的人反應不一，「但絕大多數人都打來電話確認，是否會在現場被要求作出捐贈承諾。」

葉雷說，「他們最擔心的恐怕是在現場感到難堪。」

據指出，獲邀出席聚會的中國富豪名單中，絕大多數是財富排名靠前，且對慈善事業態度積極或正在做相關慈善事業的大陸富豪，也有部分是沒有出現在財富榜中的「隱形富豪」。

蓋茨和巴菲特今年6月發起「捐身家」運動，勸使美國億萬富豪公開承諾，在生前或身故後捐出部分財產。

之後，巴菲特和蓋茨親自游說「福布斯」排行榜上400名美國億萬富翁。截至8月初，40名美國億萬富豪承諾，將至少一半身家捐出做善事。

巴菲特和蓋茨的游說雄心未歇，兩人計劃於本月前往中國，繼續游說大陸富豪捐款。

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-9-3 09:33

Those 中國富豪 are "SUDDEN RICH" ga ma .. so they may not want to donate ..

(or they make money from DONATION! lol)

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-3 09:47

how much to donate is a personal choice

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-3 10:21

簡單講句，西方世界嘅富豪發咗財就會立品，但中國大陸裡面嘅富豪發咗財之後就只會諗點樣運啲錢出國，又或者自己可以點樣出國～

從呢個 mindset 裡面，你就可以睇到中國大陸係一個點樣嘅世界。

-力

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-9-3 11:13

西方世界嘅富豪發咗咁耐, 要嘆要洗都玩女都玩夠啦. Of course think it's time to leave a good name in history

中國大陸發咗都唔會過得十分好, 又要討好 D 官, otherwise as you say, gotta smuggle their cash out to the free world to spend.

西方世界發咗, 食好著好 waste the world's resource for the whole past century. Chinese people merely got started, and you tell them to donate their life's worth of sweat away. 問心講, 叫你 donate half your net worth out 又好唔好? Different story if you have been living well your whole life, got a couple Billion in the bank account for as long as you remember, and then donate half of your net worth out... esp since you wont' be able to spend all of the money despite the best effort anyways...

Gate and Buffet 又係既. Forbes top wealthiest 都到過, 要 D $ 都無用啦, of course donate it and leave an even greater name. 未到 Forbes top 既, wanna keep their money to get a higher placement 一 D 都唔算過.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-3 11:25

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-3 11:35 編輯

You stupid moron~~

People in western countries got rich and enjoyed for a long time already. The Chinese just got started and should be allowed to enjoy as much as they want. These western tycoons should stop imposing their own standards on other people.

Even in the US only a small percentage agreed to Bill Gates's proposal to donate half their money. What type of mindset is this?

How about the Canadian tycoons and those in India, Russia etc, are they supporting Bill Gates proposal?

Mr. Lik, looks like another failed bashing attempt by you la.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-3 12:00

唔係阿化？大陸嘅官同富商會無玩女？你咁 imply 嘅話去搵邊個信？

而且，響大陸有錢嘅話，過嘅絕對係帝王式享受。無錯，你係要出去同啲官應酬，但應酬嘅話就點都有酒劈、有女扑，自己點都叫做有份玩埋一份。

可以俾 Warren Buffett 同 Bill Gates叫得出來嘅，身家都一定係天文數字，自己同屋企人用十世都用唔完啦？換咗係我有佢地咁疊水嘅話，捐一半出來又有乜所謂？

孤寒就孤寒，只顧私利就只顧私利啦～

-力

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-9-3 12:01

em...

蓋茨基金會在中國?

or

蓋茨中國基金會?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-3 12:17

These western tycoons should stop imposing their own standards on other people.peter236 發表於 2010/9/3 11:25

Unfortunately many ppl here like to impose their standards on others.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-9-3 12:26

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2010-9-3 12:27 編輯

You cannot force someone to act the same way. And it's not immortal if they don't follow.
I believe in most Chinese millionaires' mind, 10% is the max... And they think it's "ultra" generous already.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-3 13:06

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-3 13:07 編輯

唔係阿化？大陸嘅官同富商會無玩女？你咁 imply 嘅話去搵邊個信？

而且，響大陸有錢嘅話，過嘅絕對係帝王 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-3 12:00

Maybe you should ask your Jim Pattison to donate half his money. Even in the US only a small number of tycoons agree to Bill Gates's proposal, as mentioned in your article. Please read your own article again.
How about the tycoons in Canada, India, Russia. Mexico, and Europe? Are they donating half their money?
Your fixation on Chinese tycoons only, shows you are self-hating and anti-Chinese.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-3 13:30

10% is the max... And they think it's "ultra" generous alreadylo_pak 發表於 2010/9/3 12:26

10% is indeed very generous
because even 1% is more than what Lik would ever hope to make in his life and he's keeping all of that to himself

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-3 13:39

because even 1% is more than what Lik would ever hope to make in his life
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-9-3 13:30

So what? Life is so much more than just $$$.

Of course, you'd never understand that ga la~

-Lik

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-3 13:45

So what? Life is so much more than just $$$.Lik 發表於 2010/9/3 13:39

since this is the case
what's the point of making any donation at all?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-3 13:58

since this is the case
what's the point of making any donation at all?
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-9-3 13:45

Are you really asking me that question, Cowboy? Because if you are, it means you have a comprehension disability wor?

My comment was a direct reply to your post, and it is supposed to mean that I don't give a damn even if I make less than 1% of what those ultra rich tycoons make because at the end of the day, life is so much more than just having money. The tycoons in HK can't go out without their bodyguards forming a 五筒 formation around them. I question the kinds and sincerity of relationships they have with their family and friends. My "Life is so much more than just $$$" comment is not really related to the reasoning behind donations.

-Lik

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-9-3 14:01

本帖最後由 yayaya 於 2010-9-3 14:19 編輯

我觉得哪怕肯捐一半身家的富豪，有很多都是为了出名，为了带来更多的生意，如果答应死后捐身家的10%，而这则新闻对自己的生意增长多于捐出去的，无坏。等于用承诺买一个投资，而且，死了之后虽然财富可以传给后代，不过其实人死了后咩都无意义了，钱也带不走。

不如现在承诺捐出部分身家，一来可以声明大振，二来可以激励后代不要靠老豆。一举两得，反正捐也是死了后的事。。赚钱是生前的事，why not?

d生意人最o力就系maximize profit，边有善心可言架，以前未做生意时d人叫我捐钱扶贫我都稍为捐几蚊，而加我都识直接say no啦

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-9-3 14:14

"但中國大陸裡面嘅富豪發咗財之後就只會諗點樣運啲錢出國，又或者自己可以點樣出國～"

"響大陸有錢嘅話，過嘅絕對係帝王式享受。"

I guess 中國大陸裡面嘅富豪 seriously don't want to 過帝王式享受...

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-9-3 14:17

"但中國大陸裡面嘅富豪發咗財之後就只會諗點樣運啲錢出國，又或者自己可以點樣出國～"

"響大陸有錢嘅話， ...
daimo 發表於 2010-9-3 14:14

why not?

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-9-3 14:44

個個人既background都唔同

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-3 14:49

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-3 14:50 編輯

So what? Life is so much more than just $$$.

Of course, you'd never understand that ga la~

-Lik ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-3 13:39

You moron~~
You should ask Jim Pattison to donate half his money. Even in the US only a small number of tycoons agree to Bill Gates's proposal, as mentioned in your article. Please read your own article again.
How about the tycoons in Canada, India, Middle East, Russia. Mexico, and Europe? Are they donating half their money as well?
Your fixation on Chinese tycoons only, again shows you are self-hating and anti-Chinese.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-3 15:01

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2010-9-3 15:02 編輯

響大陸裡面，就算物質上過嘅生活再奢華、再聲色犬馬都好，你都難保今日撐緊你、做你後台果啲官僚唔會響聽日就俾人拉落馬，又或者當局唔會聽日就走來雙規你、鬥臭你、拉鬼咗你。係鬥你而你果派又失咗勢嘅話，要隨便搵樣野來搞你、告你又有幾難？

生命誠可貴、自由價更高，響呢兩樣野面前，錢財又算得係啲乜？

-力

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-3 15:04

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作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-3 16:29

I would let the people to decide when to donate and how much to donate.

They don't need to join Gate's union in order to prove anything.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-3 19:44

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