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作者: utopia 時間: 2008-2-5 12:52 標題: 無印良品售假再造紙

在香港亦有分店的日本著名品牌「無印良品」，因為有七十款產品所含的再造紙成分與標籤不符，決定停售當中十五款完全沒有含再造紙成分的產品。無印良品的母公司良品計劃昨日發表聲明，表示由於供應該公司生產再造紙產品的日本王子製紙、日本製紙等公司，被揭發偽造回收廢紙再造比率，因此全面檢查一百八十七款產品，發現七十款的含再造紙比率與標籤不符，當中十五款更完全沒有再造紙成分。此外，顧客在無印良品內購物時得到的購物紙袋，其內含再造紙的比率亦與生產商聲稱的不符。 15款產品停售
良品計劃因此決定，停售十五款完全沒有再造紙成分、但標籤上卻有標記使用再造紙的產品，包括多款信封、便條、明信片、紙製手提袋，又會盡快更改問題產品的標籤及說明書。良品計劃對事件表示抱歉。醜聞在日本被揭發後，先後有多家大型製紙商，如王子製紙、日本製紙、三菽製紙等十八家製紙商被揭偽造生產再造紙內含有廢紙的比率，各家公司紛紛搬出「難以回收高品質的廢紙」、「技術不足」、「國內廢紙都賣到中國，令原料不足」等原因自我辯解。日本環境省昨日決定再次調查涉及的製紙商，以了解其偽裝廢紙含量的意圖、未符合標準的產品的生產過程及流出市面的情況等。業界組織日本製紙聯合會決定設立「廢紙與環保檢證委員會」，分析問題癥結所在。

p.s. This news prove that NOT only China have bad quality and fake product. So does Japan~~~

作者: peter236 時間: 2008-2-5 13:27

We all know the Japanese have their own faking problems.

作者: Alcoholic 時間: 2008-2-5 13:27

good finding Twin~

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-2-5 13:42

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-2-5 13:27 發表
We all know the Japanese have their own faking problems.

but majority in the world look highly on Japanese problem and switch full attention on China's product; on one hand, I'm glad this news show the world that China is not the only one

作者: hoshi 時間: 2008-2-5 18:14

In this case Japanese were just producing "fake" products but not necessarily "lower quality" products.

But for China's productions, usually if they are fake they are bad in quality.

作者: puZZle 時間: 2008-2-5 19:14

原帖由 hoshi 於 2008-2-5 18:14 發表
In this case Japanese were just producing "fake" products but not necessarily "lower quality" products.
But for China's productions, usually if they are fake they are bad in quality.

that's so true

作者: yyj 時間: 2008-2-7 12:40

"無良印品" ??

作者: puZZle 時間: 2008-2-7 12:51 標題: 回復 7# 的帖子

when i was a kid that's what i thought it's called!

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-2-7 12:53

原帖由 puZZle 於 2008-2-7 12:51 發表
when i was a kid that's what i thought it's called!

HEY, that's what I called this brand when I was a kid in HK.
I always reverse the word, and now they are really being "mo leung"

Guess my prediction in childhood is right wuahahahah

作者: peter236 時間: 2008-2-7 13:29

原帖由 hoshi 於 2008-2-5 18:14 發表
In this case Japanese were just producing "fake" products but not necessarily "lower quality" products.
But for China's productions, usually if they are fake they are bad in quality.

That's not true at all. China has a whole range of products from expensive to cheap. Those cheap products are for those who can't afford. So there is always a demand and supply.

作者: hoshi 時間: 2008-2-7 18:28

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-2-7 13:29 發表
That's not true at all. China has a whole range of products from expensive to cheap. Those cheap products are for those who can't afford. So there is always a demand and supply.

I was talking about fake products from China wor...

作者: big_tooth 時間: 2008-2-8 03:47

原帖由 hoshi 於 2008-2-5 18:14 發表
In this case Japanese were just producing "fake" products but not necessarily "lower quality" products.
But for China's productions, usually if they are fake they are bad in quality.

If paper is not made from recycle product, then it is from virgin material, which is higher cost especially for countries like Japan. And the quality of the paper is actually better(the fibre string is longer with virgin material thus making the paper stronger).

作者: peter236 時間: 2008-2-8 04:07

原帖由 hoshi 於 2008-2-7 18:28 發表

I was talking about fake products from China wor...

Fake products from Japan are also inferior. You can see a lot of faked stuff in Japan when you go there. Chinese people like to support their own quality brand name products.

作者: kipposhi 時間: 2008-2-8 06:51

But many China fake products are harmful to people.

作者: hoshi 時間: 2008-2-8 07:57

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-2-8 04:07 發表
Fake products from Japan are also inferior. You can see a lot of faked stuff in Japan when you go there. Chinese people like to support their own quality brand name products.

I think you misunderstood my original statement.

First, I was saying in this case, the "fake" paper from Japan might not necessarily mean a "lower quality" product. It has nothing implying the availability or quality of other fake products from Japan. Second, I was stating usually (i.e., in common cases, but not all) fake products from China are lower quality products. It has nothing implying the ability of China to produce high quality products.

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-2-8 09:39

原帖由 hoshi 於 2008-2-8 07:57 發表

I think you misunderstood my original statement.

First, I was saying in this case, the "fake" paper from Japan might not necessarily mean a "lower quality" product. It has nothing implying the avai ...

exactly, true, there are some "high quality" products in China but the ratio of high quality and low quality + Fake is relatively extreme. On top of my head, I can't think of anything is high quality products in China. Please name the so called "high quality" products to me, so next time I can comfort myself when I heard news about China mocking others or harmful products. Thank you very much

p.s. When mentioning high quality products, I hope you don't mean by the new recent VII nor the "Red Berry" that mock Blackberry from Canada.

作者: peter236 時間: 2008-2-9 00:56

Chinese people are very smart people. They always produce high quality products. If you think they are not good enough and you are talented, maybe you should try to make some contribution towards Chinese products development, rather than giving all these anti-China comments.

[ 本帖最後由 peter236 於 2008-2-9 00:57 編輯 ]

作者: kipposhi 時間: 2008-2-9 01:45

祖國崛起!

作者: hoshi 時間: 2008-2-9 08:38

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-2-9 00:56 發表
Chinese people are very smart people.

0拿, 我從來冇否定過呢樣0野呀.

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-2-9 00:56 發表
They always produce high quality products.

講到咁實牙實齒都要俾0的例子先有說服力喎, 話晒閣下都係想糾正大家0既錯誤觀念嘛.

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-2-9 00:56 發表
If you think they are not good enough and you are talented, maybe you should try to make some contribution towards Chinese products development, rather than giving all these anti-China comments.

唔好意思, 睇唔到兩樣0野有乜關連.

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-2-9 10:48

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-2-9 00:56 發表
Chinese people are very smart people. They always produce high quality products. If you think they are not good enough and you are talented, maybe you should try to make some contribution towards Chin ...

Like I said, provide me the list of high quality products. I do agree Chinese people are very smart but they just use their smartness on the wrong direction. I rather to be convinced. How should I put it? It's like, keep telling me the naked photos on internet are photoshoped and fake but then there are more and more photos releasing, how convincing is that?

I'm not starting a war here, just give me examples of high quality products that you think China has been producing?

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-2-9 10:57

原帖由 hoshi 於 2008-2-9 08:38 發表

0拿, 我從來冇否定過呢樣0野呀.

講到咁實牙實齒都要俾0的例子先有說服力喎, 話晒閣下都係想糾正大家0既錯誤觀念嘛.

唔好意思, 睇唔到兩樣0野有乜關連. ...

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It's like kids arguing with adult, and they lose their argument and end up telling people "if you are so good, do it yourself"

I don't know what kind of contribution you want to provide, but at least, as a Chinese I am not anti-China or else I won't pity the one who died in Naking war. As a Chinese, I try hard to demonstrate to the world that I'm educated and will be well behave in front of westerner so they won't mistake all Chinese are like that.

Like I said in the other post, blindly support our so called motherland without providing solid example. It just make your arguement weak.

There is nothing wrong with Patriotism but don't just blindly support your motherland. If we Chinese, never face our real problem and weakness and continues lying to us and the world that we are the elite. We will always be an international joke.

作者: big_tooth 時間: 2008-2-9 11:27

Quality Products from China:
Hospital equipments such a MRI scanner, imaging printer etc (namely GE and Kodak).

Many household electronics such as TV, DVD players, laptops, Wii, Xbox etc

Many high quality clothing stores is selling clothes that are made in China.

作者: peter236 時間: 2008-2-9 20:05

The Chinese are very smart people. Of course we all know that. It is just a matter of avoiding all these useless squabbles and doing something more constructive. One thing to learn from the Japs is that they don't bash their own country. Most of the time they think about ways of contributing. Anyone who has the talent should contribute with their effort.

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