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作者: fy789 時間: 2010-9-15 15:01 標題: 李嘉誠捐 3億改形象 [AppleDaily]

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作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-9-15 15:28

Can't blame corporations for '賺到盡'. If the real estate sales practices are deemed unfair, and perhaps anti-competitive, maybe something should be done in terms of policies?

"商界的政治特權、立法會功能組別、不公平售樓手法" should be addressed by policies and law. Telling businesses to not make profit and care for the society instead counters the purpose of their existence, doesn't it?

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-15 18:15

李嘉誠捐 3億, 當佢只係想改形象, 起碼佢都只做肯捐啦.
呢3億係support 關懷社會活動, 扶貧只係其中一個部分, 筆錢唔係只係用去扶貧的... 真正扶貧, 3億又點會夠, 亦唔應該將扶貧呢個任務比一個人承擔, 扶貧人人有責的!

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-9-15 19:18

Can't blame corporations for '賺到盡'. If the real estate sales practices are deemed unfair, and per ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-9-15 15:28

exactly!!! we should blame this weak government & leadership, if we have a strong leadership liek the iron woman in UK, things will be different, how can those rich man leads HK? this is ridiculous!!!!!

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-15 20:23

李嘉誠捐 3億, 當佢只係想改形象, 起碼佢都只做肯捐啦.
呢3億係support 關懷社會活動, 扶貧只係其中一個部 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-15 18:15

梗係唔夠啦
不過
好似矮仔鄧話霽
先讓一少拙人富起來
李超就扶起一少拙貧
其他
自己搞定

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-9-15 20:26

人地60億俾左呀爺啵...
3億留俾港人咁小家？？

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-15 21:09

梗係唔夠啦
不過
好似矮仔鄧話霽
先讓一少拙人富起來
李超就扶起一少拙貧
其他
自己搞定 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-9-16 12:23

乜唔係應該令一少拙人更加貧, 咁就可以令冇咁貧既人感覺良好少少?...

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-15 21:09

when you laugh at people donating 300M, maybe ask yourself how much you have given to society

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-15 21:36

Can't blame corporations for '賺到盡'. If the real estate sales practices are deemed unfair, and perhaps anti-competitive, maybe something should be done in terms of policies?

"商界的政治特權、立法會功能組別、不公平售樓手法" should be addressed by policies and law. Telling businesses to not make profit and care for the society instead counters the purpose of their existence, doesn't it?
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-9-15 15:28

The problem is, there is no democracy in Hong Kong -- the current game is simply controlled by the tycoon-government-Grandfather bloc. Until full democracy is achieved, there is no chance for the current practices to be broken up via government policy. But given all the links and associations and relationships that exist between the rich tycoons and those in the government, why would they ever want to give up their exclusive benefits?

This is why LSD continue to take up their fights and protests both from within the legislature and out there on the streets.

-Lik

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-15 21:37

when you laugh at people donating 300M, maybe ask yourself how much you have given to society
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-9-15 21:09

三億係大數目
對李超來說
係九牛一毛
對於我哋小市民
三百
好可能係一個月嘅買飯菜錢
佢嗰三億
聽日個樓盤開高一文一呎都返來啦
小市民要挨一日都未必有三百蚊

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-15 22:03

三億係大數目
對李超來說
係九牛一毛
對於我哋小市民
三百
好可能係一個月嘅買飯菜錢
佢嗰三億
聽日個樓 ...
sheep 發表於 2010/9/15 21:37

咁冇錢係你地既事
唔代表三億唔係錢
就算佢捐3萬都好過其他攤大隻手等政府救濟既人

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-15 22:05

This is why LSD continue to take up their fights and protests both from within the legislature and out there on the streets.
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 13:36

DP and Civic Party also continue to take up their fights and protests both from within the legislature and out there on the streets...

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-15 22:13

Total BS la, MJJ.

The Pigeon Party has already been assimilated into Grandfather's camp. What more can they do other than further selling Hong Kong democracy out? The Lawyer's Party will only seek their gentlemanly protests within the confines of the rules, but these rules were set out by the Establishment to be unfair in the first place.

-Lik

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-15 22:14

咁冇錢係你地既事
唔代表三億唔係錢
就算佢捐3萬都好過其他攤大隻手等政府救濟既人 ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-9-16 14:03

佢捐3萬都好過其他攤大隻手等政府救濟既人???
我相信, 一個人好唔好, 唔係用咁既準則去量度的.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-15 22:16

Total BS la, MJJ.

The Pigeon Party has already been assimilated into Grandfather's camp. What more ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 14:13

DP and Civic Party also continue to take up their fights and protests both from within the legislature and out there on the streets...

Lik, 你只懂美化你既社民連, 而去抹煞其他為香港民主出力既人, 始乃掛除異己, 對香港既民主進程毫無裨益! 來吧, 我們一同手牽手, 心連心, 全心全力去為香港既民主打拼吧~

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-9-15 23:54

Lik is moron, I agreed. He is like those 迷信盲毛 anything about democracy is good, non democracy is bad, where is his brain?

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-9-16 02:35

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-9-16 02:36 編輯

三百hk currency??
好可能係一個月嘅買飯菜錢???

Good for you then
i think maybe $70 hk currency can get you 1 week's 買飯菜錢
$10 each day very good

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-16 02:42

三億係大數目
對李超來說
係九牛一毛
對於我哋小市民
三百
好可能係一個月嘅買飯菜錢
佢嗰三億
聽日個樓 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-9-15 21:37

Why don't you ask your local tycoon Jim Pattison to donate more money?

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-16 06:09

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作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-16 07:27

三百hk currency??
好可能係一個月嘅買飯菜錢???
Good for you then
i think maybe $70 hk currency can ...
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-9-16 02:35

你撩事鬥非？

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-16 07:30

咁冇錢係你地既事
唔代表三億唔係錢
就算佢捐3萬都好過其他攤大隻手等政府救濟既人 ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-9-15 22:03

唔係錢唔錢嘅問題
係嗰舊錢對捐嗰個人
相對嘅能力係唔係負擔得起

收嗰個係另外一個問題

作者: nabeyaki 時間: 2010-9-16 08:08

300 M for Mr Lee will be just 300 dollar for him. I really agree that

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-16 08:17

三百hk currency??
好可能係一個月嘅買飯菜錢???
Good for you then
i think maybe $70 hk currency can ...
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-9-16 02:35

你把口話自己搵自己食
眯又係洗你老豆錢
有乜咁巴閉
有錢
都要識洗
好似你咁ON9
錢就洗咗
得個吉

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-16 08:54

DP and Civic Party also continue to take up their fights and protests both from within the legislature and out there on the streets...

Lik, 你只懂美化你既社民連, 而去抹煞其他為香港民主出力既人, 始乃掛除異己, 對香港既民主進程毫無裨益! 來吧, 我們一同手牽手, 心連心, 全心全力去為香港既民主打拼吧~
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-15 22:16

If what you claim is true, why can I not find a single example in the last few years when the Pigeon and Lawyer Parties stood up for democracy and challenge the government head on? Unlike you naive self, calling a few party lines at demonstrations, and going home afterwards to enjoy their air-conditioned office doesn't cut it in my books.

-Lik

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-16 09:05

300 M for Mr Lee will be just 300 dollar for him. I really agree that
nabeyaki 發表於 2010/9/16 08:08

ok, say it is "just like" 300 dollars
so you should get laughed at when you donate 300 dollars?
how many people donate $0 and get thousands of dollars from the government?

and, what is the rationale behind this idea of looking everything in terms of %s?
so if a person only has 10 dollars and he donates all 10 dollars, he makes a bigger contribution that a guy who has 10,000 and donates 1,000, even though the benefits to the society are 100 times greater?

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-9-16 09:55

ok, say it is "just like" 300 dollars
so you should get laughed at when you donate 300 dollars?
ho ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-9-16 09:05

I think most ppl's POV is:

A. Mr Lee's donation of 300M is relatively a drop in the bucket for him. The primary reason why is that the donation won't affect his lifestyle one bit, and thus is lesser of a sacrifies compared to an ordinary dude donating $300 (which would impact one's discretionary spending, if not even core spending, more so than 300M in affecting Mr Lee's spending/lifestyle)

B. It is not so much a sacrifice for Mr Lee when the donation is more for PR purpose. It's more like buying an image, not a 'donation' Comparitively, I think an ordinary dude is making a greater sacrifice than Mr. Lee if he/she donates $300.

If every ordinary dude donates $300 in HK, it'll probably benefit society more than Mr. Lee donating $300M.

Having said that, since not every ordinary dude will donate $300 in HK, what Mr. Lee does is still better than nothing for the society.

When we are comparing $300 with $300M and considering that an ordinary dude donating $300 is a greater sacrifice... it only shows nth other than that the rich/poor disparity in HK is plainly ridiculous...

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-16 09:56

回復 26# 快樂牛郎

捐錢係出自內心同能力
相對嘅意義有啲唔同
有人出三億
係沽名釣譽當做生意一個買賣
有人捐三百
係出於心意
代表一份愛或關懷
唔係買賣

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-9-16 10:09

回復 27# BiscottiGelato

yes, he's still better than most ppl in this world... better than those ppl left most of their money for their children/grandchildren to spend and made them a piece of "shxt/junk" in the world, like 趙X曾's parents for example...

as for Chau Yun Fat, he's also good, at least he promised "after his death", even better than ppl never thought of doing anything for the society.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-16 10:40

to me, a dollar is a dollar

that's why I always laugh when I see someone trying to save 50% on a $10 item but overpays 10% on a $1000 item

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-9-16 14:14

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-9-16 14:33 編輯

你撩事鬥非？
sheep 發表於 2010-9-16 07:27

撩事鬥非？

i just repeat a stupid moron's words
Sheep: "三百好可能係一個月嘅買飯菜錢"

so thats $10hk a day

if you think repeating stupid sheep's words is 撩事鬥非 then you should slap her face
that's what she said

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-9-16 14:24

本帖最後由 Davidcopperfeel 於 2010-9-16 14:26 編輯

你把口話自己搵自己食
眯又係洗你老豆錢
有乜咁巴閉
有錢
都要識洗
好似你咁ON9
錢就洗咗
得個吉 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-9-16 08:17

繼續妒忌啦

窮畜牲

不招人妒是庸材

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-9-16 14:36

to me, a dollar is a dollar

that's why I always laugh when I see someone trying to save 50% on a $1 ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-9-16 10:40

to the end receiver, a dollar is a dollar.
when judging the giver, it's a diff thing.

so it's better to not save the 50% on the $10 item and overpay 10% on the $1k too? If you like to call people stupid, just say so. Steering wide doesn't hide the mockeries.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-16 18:41

If what you claim is true, why can I not find a single example in the last few years when the Pigeo ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 00:54

大家行既路線唔同, 可幸既係, 大家都正在為香港既民主出力!
何必分彼以? 何不求大同, 存小異? 都係果句, 來吧, 我們一同手牽手, 心連心, 全心全力去為香港既民主打拼吧~

-- 等著力兄歸隊既 MJJ

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-16 18:44

有人出三億
係沽名釣譽當做生意一個買賣
有人捐三百
係出於心意.
sheep 發表於 2010-9-17 01:56

咁又唔好話人地係沽名釣譽, 當做生意一個買賣.
人地未必係咁諗既, 當未了解件事既時候, 你就夾硬套呢個惡名o係人地身上, 對人好唔公平.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-16 18:46

繼續妒忌啦
窮畜牲

不招人妒是庸材
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-9-17 06:24

邊有人會妒忌一個咁既人丫, 師主你諗多左了.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-16 19:46

繼續妒忌啦
窮畜牲

不招人妒是庸材
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-9-16 14:24

你妒忌我可以一日洗十蚊都咁開心
你洗你老豆嘅錢住佢嘅屋開佢嘅車
妒忌你係二世祖？
你未入流啦

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-9-16 20:31

咁又唔好話人地係沽名釣譽, 當做生意一個買賣.
人地未必係咁諗既, 當未了解件事既時候, 你就夾硬套呢個惡 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-16 18:44

最好係發財立品啦

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-9-16 21:17

你妒忌我可以一日洗十蚊都咁開心
你洗你老豆嘅錢住佢嘅屋開佢嘅車
妒忌你係二世祖？
你未入流啦 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-9-16 19:46

我真係好妒忌你無車無樓, only can spent十蚊港紙一日都咁開心

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-9-16 21:30

邊有人會妒忌一個咁既人丫, 師主你諗多左了.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-16 18:46

同你講野呀﹖

師主﹖﹖﹖咩師主呀﹖﹖

你個腦無能野呀麻﹖

你條智障甘ON9﹐又點會明咩叫做妒忌呀~

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-16 21:33

最好係發財立品啦
sheep 發表於 2010-9-17 12:31

其實李+x 都算係咁架喇. 有好多有錢佬好"姑航"的...

希望佢可以多d 做公益既事, 我相信香港既小市民係會知道邊個對佢好既~

-- 凡事先向好既方面看既 MJJ

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-16 21:36

同你講野呀﹖

師主﹖﹖﹖咩師主呀﹖﹖ 你個腦無能野呀麻﹖

你條智障甘ON9﹐又點會明咩叫做妒忌呀~ ...
Davidcopperfeel 發表於 2010-9-17 13:30

小弟完全明白閣下對妒忌一詞了解之深.
通常被妒忌既, 係唔會知道乜野係妒忌; 只係時常妒忌人既人, 就係最明白妒忌既真諦.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-9-16 23:58

to the end receiver, a dollar is a dollar.
when judging the giver, it's a diff thing.

so it's bet ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010/9/16 14:36

so the moral is
don't even donate a penny

if u don't donate
then u wouldn't be ridiculed for donating too little

that's how ppl learn 少做少錯

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-9-17 19:57

回復 43# 快樂牛郎

haha

not 少做少错，should be 唔做咪无错

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 19:59

回復 44# yayaya

Very smart girl

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