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作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-8 17:31     標題: ENGINE DYING! NEED A SKILLFUL, RELIABLE MECHANIC!!!

make: lexus
model: RX300, yr 2000
mileage: ~87000km

Problems:
engine problem since Nov08!
parts replaced
Nov08- Idle gas control valve
Jan09- Oxygen sensor (heater circuit?)
Aug09- Oxygen sensor and
          - Idle control motor
Feb10- Engine light on => Idle control malfunction

The shop helped me clean out the throttle body in Feb, and said the car will be functioning better.
But no law..
now engine light is on again!!!

Anyone know reliable mechanic that's not expensive please tell!!

Thank you velly much!!! ><
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-8 17:41

回復 1# 車人


    I know one @ Victoria Drive and Powell St  E Vancouver.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-10-8 18:36

Your buddy?
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-8 20:44

Your buddy?
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-10-8 18:36



    no, I take my cars to them for services, price is good and he will give recommendations whether it is necessary to change anything or not.
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-8 21:51

回復 4# sheep


    Sheep, is it Tong Yan or Gwai Lo place~?
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2010-10-9 07:33

do you surf the rx's forum?
i found that most cars common problems/solutions are available on their own dedicated forums...

for my 06 civic: http://www.8thcivic.com/

not sure about your rx...
http://clublexus.com/forums/rx-first-generation-182/   ?
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/fo ... 7d&showforum=96    ?

make: lexus
model: RX300, yr 2000
mileage: ~87000km

Problems:
engine problem since Nov08!
parts rep ...
車人 發表於 2010-10-8 17:31

作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-9 09:19

now engine light is on again!!!

買/借部code reader 機check下係咩事先囉﹐可能好小事自己都整得返呢。
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-9 09:56

買/借部code reader 機check下



there's a place i called,
they said it's $70 just to help me check下!!

it'd be interesting to know where u can 借code reader..
but me won't be able to fix la..
作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-9 10:14

http://www.autorepairmanuals.biz/site/573683/product/EQUUS3030

之前canadian tire 特價賣$50一部之嘛
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-9 10:19

之前canadian tire 特價賣$50一部之嘛
soli 發表於 2010-10-9 10:14

乜都以為自己整倒
修理吓自己個腦先喇
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-9 10:21

回復  sheep


    Sheep, is it Tong Yan or Gwai Lo place~?
車人 發表於 2010-10-8 21:51



   唐人
佢好忙
最好預約
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-9 10:21

回復 6# yuusaku


    Thanks, yuusaku,

i just checked out the forums and saw people posting questions with the check engine light codes they got.
too bad i won't be able to follow the steps to fix my car.. but i can see how people try to interpret codes..

my last mechanics probably have been trying to do the same with my car. i believe they really wanted to help, but car is still not fixed..
i'm planning to try with another shop, but it seems like the process will have to start all over again.. and the new shop might/ might not have a solution..
i'll bring my car's expensive 病歷紀錄 to them and hope they'll understand..


I got a question -
Are there different code readers for different cars, or it is all the same?
would there be some codes that only the dealership's reader can see but not other car shops?

Hoping to find a 唐人car shop this time..
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-9 10:26

買/借部code reader 機check下係咩事先囉﹐可能好小事自己都整得返呢。
soli 發表於 2010-10-9 09:19



   再買套結構拆解DIY嘅書
再買套稼生
做完唔掂先可以拖去整
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-9 10:48

回復 12# sheep

Thank u Thank u~
will call them and see see!
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-9 10:50

回復 14# 車人


    T.E.J.   BOB
need the number?
作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-9 10:54

回復 13# sheep

好少問題﹐甚至係油缸個蓋無扭實個engine燈都會著﹐咩都另去車房盞益D車房佬。
睇車人架車換左兩次oxygen sensor 就知個車房佬玩野。
唔自己check下咩事盞任人魚肉。
作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-9 11:03

engine 燈著即係排氣有問題﹐唔代表個engine壞。 個engine 燈既存在只係for環保purpose。
大概得兩種code reader, 一種for係舊野OBDI(1995年前既車)﹐另一種係新野OBD2.
而加買到既reader 實read 到OBD2既車﹐而個code 係一樣既。
作者: Prelude    時間: 2010-10-9 12:27

engine 燈著 doesn't must mean engine has problem, but it can.
Most car can be checked for code meaning in some way without OBD2 reader.  But of course, it's better to have OBD2 reader, a decent one can cost $150+.

Any noise?  Any stutter acceleration?  Change spark plug?  Oil change?
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-9 13:17

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2010-10-9 13:20 編輯
engine 燈著即係排氣有問題﹐唔代表個engine壞。 個engine 燈既存在只係for環保purpose。
大概得兩種code reader, 一種for係舊野OBDI(1995年前既車)﹐另一種係新野OBD2.
而加買到既reader 實read 到OBD2既車﹐而個code 係一樣既。
soli 發表於 2010-10-9 11:03

本來我睇到個 post 都費事出聲窒你架喇,但真係估唔到你可以低能成咁。

家吓嘅車咁多電子野,着 engine 燈你估淨係排氣可以有問題咩?由 intake 到 throttle body 到 engine oil 到 coolant 到 sensor 到 cat 到 exhaust,再數返去 fuel rail、coil pack、spark plug、到部腦同其他野,9000幾樣野都好以壞咗然後着 CEL。「個engine 燈既存在只係for環保purpose」都講得出,我真係 O晒嘴~

以福士同 Benz 來講,無錯佢係會出 ODB II 嘅 code,但係用原廠部 diagnostic 電腦來 check 嘅話就會話多好多野俾你聽。Toyota/Lexus 會唔會咁樣,我就唔知。

無知並不是罪﹐  真正的罪是以無知為榮。


回樓主阿哥:
知唔知道之前換咗果兩個 oxygen sensor 係唔係同一個 sensor 呢?因為如果無記錯嘅話,ODB II 嘅車通常最少會有兩個 oxygen sensor (pre cat 同 post cat),而你 V6 偈就好可能每邊排嘅氣缸都各自有自己嘅 catalytic converter。其實 8、9年個 oxygen sensor先死,我都唔會太奇怪,但始終如果無啦啦個 oxygen sensor 自己死嘅話,我估佢係表面 symptom 嘅機會始終高啲。

另一個可以諗諗嘅方法係換車。架車其實都成 10年,開始多野壞就預咗架喇。如果來緊頭預計得到仲會有多野煩嘅話,其實換新車亦未嘗唔係一個更簡單嘅方法。Trade in 嘅話,你架車大若會值 $7500 -- $10k 到。

-力
作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-9 15:24

本帖最後由 soli 於 2010-10-9 15:25 編輯

回復 19# Lik

講多晒氣﹐由其是係同賣國力講。
自己睇link
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-20002489-48.html
   
日本車仲要係2000年既toyota﹐閒閒地可以渣20-30萬公里﹐個engine邊有o甘快壞。
不過響度講乜都無用﹐至少要知道個code係咩。
有D車房佬賤到reset左盞engine燈就話整左 (eg 話換左oxygen sensor)﹐過一陣盞燈又著番又要整過。
如果唔自己check個code真係俾人搵笨都唔知。
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-9 15:34

我都廢鬼事逐樣駁你。車同人一樣,唔係邊間出廠同邊個人種就大Q晒,維修保養一樣咁重要,而且車齡越大,maintenance 做得勤唔勤、足唔足就相對地變得越來越重要。如果係親 Toyota 就無問題嘅話,咁 Toyota 廠啲大偈就個個唔使開飯,樓主架車一開始亦唔會出事啦~

白黐~

-力
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-10-9 16:43

last time my engine light on becoz its the catalytic converter melt down (can see through from 1 end 2 the other end) screwed up 1 of the sensor
作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-9 18:24

一開始就唔係個engine 有事。
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-9 21:36

一開始就唔係個engine 有事。
soli 發表於 2010-10-9 18:24

咁我又請問你憑乜野咁肯定呢?就因為你又唔係 mechanic,又唔係 automotive engineer,定係因為你連呢句「check engine light只係for環保purpose」都講得出口?

汽車維修呢啲野,怪起上來有時連 certified mechanic 都唔搵唔到原因啦。但係我哋阿 Soli哥就唔同,一句「一開始就唔係個engine 有事」就搞掂~

-力
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-10-9 22:23

IM NOT A MECHANIC
most of the time when u c the engine light on the engine was running. lol
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-9 22:40

對於我哋呢啲完美主義嘅人來講
有啲咩唔妥 就心有戚戚然
話之佢係乜 最緊要啲 WARNING燈唔好著
SOLI當然會由得佢啦
無事嘅 一陣去拎番好佢 就冇事
作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-10 08:53

咁我又請問你憑乜野咁肯定呢?就因為你又唔係 mechanic,又唔係 automotive engineer,定係因為你連呢句「 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-9 21:36


你條白痴仔﹐如果個engine有事架車仲可以行得走得o甘耐?
個engine有事既話個車房佬做乜換黎換去都係D拾星野?
OBD 一向都係因為環保而設﹐CEL著左如果只係D sensor壞﹐唔整架車都繼續可以行得走得不過晒D油/馬力少D +過唔到air care. 叫你睇link又唔睇
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-10 13:51

回復 19# Lik

Actually me don't really know!! And didn't know to ask! -_-"
But on the bill first one says "Oxygen sensor heater circuit" the one a few months later says "Oxygen sensor"...

i also fink this is just symptoms of bigger problems behind.
my car..
*sigh* poor thing,
me managed to tilt it by about 70 degree to the right before

yes, almost flipped side ways.
and it was running alright the next day!

but that winter, car started to have lots of problems
and the 西裝油told me to replace engine, takes about $4000up.
He said there is gasoline shooting back at my engine, but didn't explain why.. didn't quite trust him.
we decided to listen to more opinion and so brought car to current mechanic..
and this mechanic said car is alite.. just 晒D油...

like hailrabitspace said, car is always running when CEL is on! LOL
but velly faan law.. and $$$$$$$
every few months start to stall gum law.

This time car is still running quite smoothly, just making weird noises once in a while..

IF there is another mechanic that tells me there really IS gasoline shooting back at my engine, i might really just change the engine this time! ><
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-10 14:39

你條白痴仔﹐如果個engine有事架車仲可以行得走得o甘耐?
個engine有事既話個車房佬做乜換黎換去都係D拾星野?
OBD 一向都係因為環保而設﹐CEL著左如果只係D sensor壞﹐唔整架車都繼續可以行得走得不過晒D油/馬力少D +過唔到air care. 叫你睇link又唔睇
soli 發表於 2010-10-10 08:53

呵呵呵~ 你要死口唔認嘅話,我都無謂同你調低能仔坳落去。但如果 OBD 只係如你話齋係用來搞環保野嘅話,咁點解叫做 on-board diagnostics,而唔係叫做 environmental friendly / green engine management 之類嘅野呢?以 Soli兄嘅「高見」,唔知 diagnostics 係咪解環保呢?

你係咁勁、咁能有料嘅話,又唔見你去幫樓主師兄 DIY 整好架車?

Re: OP
IMO, if you really to have the engine replaced, I'd much rather just trade the car in for something else. At most, your car is worth $10k to trade in, and $4k is just too big a chunk of money for repairs on a $10k car.

-Lik
作者: soli    時間: 2010-10-10 15:26

本帖最後由 soli 於 2010-10-10 15:35 編輯
OBD stands for onboard diagnostics and OBD-II is a collection of connection and protocol standards standards for all cars sold since 1996, when the OBD-II specification was made mandatory by the U.S. government.

OBD technology was born out of the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) and California Air Resources Board's (CARB) mandate that vehicles equipped with more-sophisticated emissions equipment and better diagnostics systems to monitor that equipment. The agencies wanted to ensure that new vehicles were running as cleanly and efficiently as they could.


白痴力﹐我希望你最起碼知道oxygen sensor ﹐catalytic converter 又或者MAF sensor..etc係用黎做乜。
如果唔知﹐就上網google下﹐唔google既我都費事再徙力打字﹐你就繼續無知落去啦白痴力。
講返主題﹐
個mechanic 話會晒D油﹐“我諗”有可能其中一個code 話 system too rich﹐即係入油同入空氣落個engine比重唔o岩﹐俾油太多﹐所以晒油兼唔環保(所以CEL著)。其原因可能係入氣太少﹐相對地就變成俾油太多落engine。又可能係oxygen sensor 壞左或者污糟左sense 唔到出氣oxygen﹐唔係個system too rich。仲有好多可能﹐不過邊個係真要車房佬自己先知﹐樓主如果要試可以慢慢繼續。

不過車房佬講野﹐too lean 都可以話too rich﹐屈人換野﹐所以唔知個code 講乜都無用。
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-10 15:34

不過邊個係真要車房佬自己先知
soli 發表於 2010-10-10 15:26



   乜你唔係話DIY嘅咩?


買/借部code reader 機check下係咩事先囉﹐可能好小事自己都整得返呢。
soli 發表於 2010-10-9 09:19

作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-10 15:37

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-10-10 15:39 編輯

叻你就叻喇
不過冇記性

回復 30# soli
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-10 15:55

感謝各位高見!
自問沒能力搞架車
唯有等車房開門再聽多幾個車房佬有乜講!!

trade in but car not fully fixed.. does that mean lower price ga..
also 架車救我咁多次, 我唔捨得!
作者: Prelude    時間: 2010-10-10 16:27

You said it stalls sometimes?

If that's the case, it can be cylinder misfire.  Pretty common for old cars.
Check the code first.

Why can't you check the code yourself?
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/fo ... index.php/t441.html

Buy OBD2 reader from Returnable place, or borrow from some friend.
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-10-10 18:44

回復  Lik

Actually me don't really know!! And didn't know to ask! -_-"
But on the bill first one s ...
車人 發表於 2010-10-10 13:51


"every few months start to stall gum law"
did the car stall?
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-10 19:14

白痴力﹐我希望你最起碼知道oxygen sensor ﹐catalytic converter 又或者MAF sensor..etc係用黎做乜。
如果唔知﹐就上網google下﹐唔google既我都費事再徙力打字﹐你就繼續無知落去啦白痴力。
soli 發表於 2010-10-10 15:26

盲丙,OBD淨係講環保嘅話,你上面果句 quote 就唔會有 "The agencies wanted to ensure that new vehicles were running as cleanly and efficiently as they could. " 呢個字啦~ 你知唔知架車部腦同 OBD system 控制幾多野都係同架車嘅 performance 有關係架?

同埋唔好歧途去轉話題。你整車咁把炮,又唔見你過去幫師兄DIY來整返好部車?你有 OBD II reader 嘅話,我又唔見你 offer 去幫人地睇吓架車有咩事、throw 咗戈咩 code?

講就凶狠,做就碌能啦你~

感謝各位高見!
自問沒能力搞架車
唯有等車房開門再聽多幾個車房佬有乜講!!

trade in but car not fully  ...
車人 發表於 2010-10-10 15:55

Sounds to me like you've been taking the car to an independent shop for repairs. While generally that's what I would recommend as well, if the problem proves to particularly troublesome, a good alternative is to take the car back to the Lexus dealership to have them look into the problem. Compared to the independents, dealership mechanics tend to have a better network of diagnostic support to tackle particularly troublesome problems. On top of that, they service their brand of vehicles far more than most independent, all-make shops, so they might be better informed of common issues that arise in their vehicles.

Last but not least, a word of advice is that there is no such thing as 唔捨得 when it comes to cars. In many ways, the car is a tool that assist you on your many tasks in life. If you value it and the appreciate all the help and years of service that it has provided you, you treat it with care and respect and perform all the necessary scheduled and unscheduled maintenance that it requires. Then when the time comes where the car has outlived its usefulness or cease to make financial sense, you give it the proper send off it deserves, and you move on to your next vehicle.

-Lik
作者: stevoo    時間: 2010-10-11 08:14

there's a place i called,
they said it's $70 just to help me check下!!

it'd be interesting to kn ...
車人 發表於 2010-10-9 09:56



    I am no mechanic but I do have a code reader if u want I can help u scan your car for codes.
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-11 10:40

I am no mechanic but I do have a code reader if u want I can help u scan your car for codes. ...
stevoo 發表於 2010-10-11 08:14



    多口問句
使唔使 UPDATE 個 CODE READER
新型號嘅 讀唔讀到?
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-11 10:53

What do you mean by 新型號? As in, will newer cars require an updated reader to read their codes?

Certain OBD II readers can be reflashed to get firmware upgrades, but they usually only pertain to the new / extra functions that the reader can perform. As far as reading codes goes, I am pretty sure manufacturers are required to conform to the OBD standards and protocols in relaying those signals. So until a new OBD III standard is ratified, any OBD II readers should be able to read codes off any OBD II cars.

(But as I was saying before, certain manufacturers add their own proprietary diagnostics stuff on top of the OBD II standard, and with those, you have to go along with the manufacturer-specific readers and updates.)

-Lik
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-10-11 12:49

回復 39# Lik


    聽人講
以前BENZ等大廠唔肯賣啲相關資料
所以外便啲車房做唔到
一定要原廠
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-11 12:56

第二啲車我唔敢講,但福士嘅話就唔係原廠都無問題,因為已經有公司(好似係用 reverse engineering)搞掂晒成個電子 diagnostic:

http://www.ross-tech.com/products.html

Subaru 亦好似有類似嘅野,但我就唔太熟。

-Lik
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-12 21:02

ok.
engine diagnosed with terminal illness la.
planning to use it till it almost die, and then replace with old engine preferably with looooow mileage.

buy new car,
need 4 wheel drive ah.. (dun wanna have to take bus + walk when it snows.. )
so expensive..
so yea..
replacing engine.. hopefully using this current engine will not cause problems for other parts..
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2010-10-12 21:35

即係咩事﹖可唔可以同我地分享下﹖

好多人有4wheel drive但冇套雪呔同common sense一樣會跌晒落ditch

養車永遠都唔係平,但係保養唔做足你只會一炮過整好多錢,睇你覺得邊樣大獲D﹖
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-12 23:03

WAHAHHAHA..  that's me!!!!
4 wheel drive
not snowing
not raining
STILL DROVE INTO DITCH!!!  ><
well.. sth happened that day be4 the accident.. so.. "sum bud joi yin". good that nobody got hurt.

保養 i thought i did ok..
current mechanic said reason for engine dying = me didn't go for oil change enuf..
I used to go to dealership ga ma, until like the last 2 yrs after running into the ditch and flipping the car..
lexus always called when it's time for oil change
so i probably DID get oil change when i was supposed to..  ..
and for the recent 2 yrs, i have been going to the same place.
car needs to be fixed every few months- half year..
i THOUGHT oil change etc was taken care of,
until the last time engine light was on, and the mechanic said the engine was filled with "gunk" that was supposed to be the engine oil.. Engine oil was all "caked up" inside..
They even showed me the "oil paste" too.. =.=

Mechanic said it happened because I was long due for an oil change - i believe that was the first time i "missed" going for oil change when i should've.. and it was because i assumed car was taken car of for those times when i bring my car to get fixed! I guess they just fixed the parts, like replaced O2 sensor.. idle control valve etc.. but didn't help me do oil change.

deem gee woh~~

so yea..
they helped me wash out all the gunk
helped me do oil change
and told me it should get better now if i keep doing oil change on time.

but in less than 2 month's time
engine light was on again (and this is when i start to think i should try a different car shop)
and it was making weird noises...

i just went back in the afternoon today
and talked with the mechanic (who showed me the oil paste in my engine last time )
he was surprised my engine oil level was very low!

at first he got a liter of engine oil
started pouring...

not enuf

went in and got another liter..

STILL not enuf

he knelt down to check the bottom of my car (me squatted down to check too)- nothing was leaking..

he told me it usu takes 5 L to do oil change
he had to pour 3L of oil into the engine this afternoon to get it back to normal levels..

so car must've been burning some of the engine oil.. =.=
he said that's a sign of the engine ceasing up..

I then told him the story of how the first mechanic at lexus told me there was gasoline shooting back at my engine, and how we dismissed the problem because the front desk person at the current car shop told me the engine will probably burn off that extra oil..

I told the mechanic that i really wanna keep this car..
asked him for suggestions
and suggestions were:
1. replace engine with new engine
2. replace with old engine with low mileage
3. take current engine apart and replace problematic parts

and he said option 2 is cheapest.

We marked down the mileage i have on my car today
and i'll go back in about a week,
so he can find out how much engine oil was burnt..

I kinda trust this mechanic..
he seem genuine and experience .. (maybe because of white hair! LOL)


sowie for the long post..

and thanks for everyone's 高見!
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-12 23:10

回復 35# habitrailspace


this time MEI (not yet) stall..


by the way,, i'm sorry for miss spelling ur name last time, habitrailspace!! I was going to go back and edit but it was past 30min after i posted the message!
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-12 23:18

回復 36# Lik
"Sounds to me like you've been taking the car to an independent shop for repairs. While generally that's what I would recommend as well, if the problem proves to particularly troublesome, a good alternative is to take the car back to the Lexus dealership to have them look into the problem. Compared to the independents, dealership mechanics tend to have a better network of diagnostic support to tackle particularly troublesome problems. On top of that, they service their brand of vehicles far more than most independent, all-make shops, so they might be better informed of common issues that arise in their vehicles."

I think that's very true.. Lik.

just that the dealership person was very yueng sui.
i didn't like it at all
also they were expensive..

even if i go back,
they might know i won't be with them for the long term.. and charge me more! '0'
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-12 23:25

回復 40# sheep


I wonder if it's the same for lexus...
if it is.. then i'm not sure what the shop i've going to for the past 2 yrs is missing  
- and obviously they won't tell me!!
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2010-10-13 06:04

car needs to be fixed every few months- half year..
i THOUGHT oil change etc was taken care of,
車人 發表於 2010-10-12 23:03


我知或者我講既野會harsh左少少,但係你冇要求人地幫你換油,人地點會幫你換﹖人地只係依你要求幫你整有問題既地方,換油同tune up點會包括左內﹖

另外有D人就係部車有問題,走去車房叫人做個tune up,以為可以解決問題
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-10-13 07:07

wow! 2yrs no oil change. didnt u find the car run sluggish?!
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2010-10-13 17:26

wow! 2yrs no oil change. didnt u find the car run sluggish?!
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-10-13 07:07


睇樓主形容睇到擰晒頭,咁玩法蛇都死。
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-13 19:53

回復 50# spoonek4


em.. 真是gum 大wok aaaaaa?...

>///<
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-13 19:54

回復 49# habitrailspace


mo ah..
just know there was engine problem cuz engine light was on..
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-13 19:56

冇要求人地幫你換油,人地點會幫你換


i finally learned what the word "maintenance" means...  =.=
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2010-10-13 20:20

i finally learned what the word "maintenance" means...  =.=
車人 發表於 2010-10-13 19:56


希望你搵到一個靠得住又熟toyota既師傅,以後若果你真係買左新車/rebuild左副機器/買左副2 手機器返黎既話,希望你好好對佢,至少每4個月或者8000km(whichever comes first)做一次保養。
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-10-13 21:06

重有要換timing belt (avg 120,000km)
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-13 21:38

新偈又好,新車又好,係想對佢、對自己都好啲嘅話就用合成油(synthetic oil)啦。車頭又會行得順啲、好力啲、慳油啲,而機件損耗亦會少啲而變相令到副偈長命啲。

-力
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2010-10-14 05:46

新偈又好,新車又好,係想對佢、對自己都好啲嘅話就用合成油(synthetic oil)啦。車頭又會行得順啲、好力 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-13 21:38


佢係肯換油既,普通油都已經好好啦!實在見太多人以為用左synthetic就有排都唔使換油,一樣玩死車頭!

habitrailspace: 冇錯我都同意,即使LEXUS recommend 160,000km至換timing belt,但係我都recommend 4-5年/10萬左右做晒timing belt/timing belt tensioner/水泵/cam seal/crank seal之類既野!
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-14 09:41

咁多?!

有邊啲係重點啲??

the mechanic briefly mentioned synthetic oil...
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-10-14 10:21

師兄大佬,

無話邊樣保養係重點唔重點啲㗎。要計嘅話,最重點自然就係要好似 spoonek4兄所講嘅(最少要) keep 住每4個月/8000km去換一次 engine oil。但咁唔代表其他 maintenance 唔重要。迫力油、波箱油、尾牙油、power steering fluid、engine coolant、火咀、各樣皮帶、CV boot cover、CV joint、氣隔、油隔、電池等等樣樣野到期嘅話其實都要換㗎啦?

人地話一養車就一闊三大真係唔係同你講笑㗎!但你對架車好之時,佢咪又對返你好咁囉。

-力
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2010-10-14 11:31

Classic situation.  Never start tracing codes until you know the mechanical condition of the engine is good....sigh...the first 4 pages all talk about how to get codes or diagnose codes...novice here...

It's too bad that you ruined such a good reliable Lexus...
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-16 09:10

回復 60# shutterbug


    係... 係我負左佢!!  T.T
作者: 車人    時間: 2010-10-16 11:57

回復 59# Lik

力大哥, 我極其量只係師妹! LOL!

大家嘅list記住同mechanic講. 感謝感謝! *bow*
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2010-10-18 08:39

不如trade in過第部車,之後好好對部新車啦!宜家呢部都內傷,整黎做咩﹖
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2010-10-18 09:57

我出$2,000買起妳........部車
有冇人多過$2,000?




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