2010年10月29日汀九橋2死交通意外真相

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habitrailspace

it's again a traffic engineer design problem!
turn right lane merged into 2
the trailer truck in front of the motor bike slowed down 1/4 secs
the trailer truck slowed down becoz there was another trailer on the left (turn right lane)

FiChai

Why blame the traffic engineer design? The bike didn't cut lane in a safe distance. A dangerous driver can hit him/herself even there is no other cars on the road.

B2L2

The rider only had himself to blame on in this instance.  RIP to this young couple.

I don't see anything wrong with the traffic pattern here.  Two double lane highways need to merge into a 3 lanes one.  The outer two are pass-thru lanes and the inner two have to merge.  There is a lot of merging room as seen in the video and it is merging from the right direction into the slower lane (HK is opposite direction from Canada).

There is no "turn right lane", did you misunderstood something here?

habitrailspace

The rider only had himself to blame on in this instance.  RIP to this young couple.

I don't see any ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-11-15 14:26

the car who took the video was on the 70km lane (same with the motor bike)

then it changed to turn right lane (marked on the road NOT 90 deg turn right) which have to merge to the other 2 lanes on the right

once in the turn right lane, can't turn to the left becoz of the double white line

look what happened in front of the motor bike before the accident

habitrailspace

we normally pull to the left when we see cars coming from the merge lane

for this case we can't becoz of the double white line; force to slow down; force to merge!

B2L2

In Canada, you pull to the left (the outside lane) when you see car coming from the merge lane from the right.

In HK, you pull to the right (the outside lane) when you see car coming from the merge lane from the left.  HK is right hand drive.  The car and the bike both merging "into" the main HWY bor.

The double white line on the left is to maintain the traffic on that lane since it is the pass-thru lane (no need to merge).

sheep

it's again a traffic engineer design problem!
turn right lane merged into 2
the trailer truck in fro ...
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-11-15 12:46

   It seems to me is two highways merging together to a three lane bridge.
The left side two lanes should be merge to one first before merging to the two lanes on the right. Is that make more sense?
The two right lanes should be from thru traffic while the left two should merge into one but not force the outside lane to merge to the thru traffic.
I think it is a design fault

B2L2

If the average amount of traffic flow on the left 2 lanes is significant lower, what you suggested maybe safer without creating a bottleneck.  However, from the current design, the left 2 lanes have big enough flow to justify the way it is.

End of the day, it involves two lanes merging into a single one.  If it creates major bottleneck everyday, I would call it a design fault.

The police already said it is not a traffic black spot, and this incident didn't show the flaw either.  Look at how aggressive the biker was cutting the car and the taxi ahead, it is obviously to me how's at fault and gave biker a bad name (I used to ride in HK as well).

sheep

In this case, the inner left lane is for slow traffic.
Now you are forcing the fast lane on the left to merge to a thru traffic,which is even on slow lane will be at high speed.
Since the taxi behind him is pushing him hard and he made a bad move to the fast lane which cost their lives.

I have a similar accidient which cost me total lost of my civic.
I get onto Tsuen Mun highway from Ting Kau exchange which is also two lanes merge into one and merge to Tsuen Mun Highway.
Our two lanes have the left slow lane merge to my right lane when I got onto Tsuen Mun Highway which I was on the inner slow lane of a three lane highway, I got hit by a truck which is on the inner lane running dowhill at excess speed.