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作者: matt72178 時間: 2011-3-12 15:29 標題: 日本地震後展現的文明

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大国崛起，从来就不只是经济上的崛起，公民素质、国家精神往往占有更重要的位置，日本人做到了这一点，它让所有人明白，什么才是现代国家。中國人民何時能進化到這種程度?

作者: LOK 時間: 2011-3-12 16:23

Can't see the pictures

作者: LOK 時間: 2011-3-12 16:23

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作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-3-12 16:27

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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-3-12 18:38

日本得體抗災中國網民讚歎學校成避難所勾起川震回憶

(明報)2011年3月13日星期日 05:05

【明報專訊】雖然遭受地震海嘯重挫，但日本人昨天仍不失團結、守禮、守紀律和尊重互助的價值觀。東京地鐵站和便利店都是長長人龍，每個人靜靜地等候，沒有打尖、沒有搶劫、沒有互相指駡。學校禮堂是災民的安心避難所，抬頭可見堅固瓦樑，沒有人會懷疑是豆腐渣。遠方的中國網民目睹裂開的日本，為3年前的四川感慨之餘，亦不禁為災難中仍然挺直腰板顧全大局的日本人，舉起拇指讚好。

日本經歷世紀大地震之後處處人龍。鐵路在地震後停駛，大批人無法回家，東京站新幹線和JR線的攤位外，打蛇餅排著數百人靜靜等候買車票，人龍中聽不到抱怨怒哮。記者向一名女士查問班次，她很平和、耐心地解釋已取消。日本羽田機場內的長龍，同樣安靜有秩序，數十人排隊累了坐在樓梯兩側，中間是一條暢通道路供人上落。

餐廳派咖喱飯汽水機一按有飲品

東京車站沿線多間學校自發開放，供無法回家的上班族暫住，內有足夠上千人用的毛氈食物擺放井然有序。旅館不單沒有坐地起價，更換個招牌變身「避難所」供免費住宿。此時此刻商店都將「搵錢發財」拋諸腦後，仙台倖存者之中，廚師留守食店煮免費咖喱飯、電器店東提供免費手機充電，汽水機一按就彈出飲品、公眾電話一按就打通。

日本網民在地震後留言：「一定要協助不會說日文的外國人避難，就算你只會說『Hello、OK』都行」網民又互相提醒：「特別要照顧長者婦女，你的鄰居是獨居嗎？記得去敲門」、「請告訴回不了家的朋友，以下地方可以免費留宿……」

「避震完畢，地上沒有垃圾」

早前的新西蘭基督城地鎮，災後曾出現趁機搶掠、商戶大幅抬高物資價格的情况。相比下，同樣屬發達國家，東京並未出現這些情况。當然，東京並非重災區，也未有因災陷入治安崩壞的狀態。有中國網民目睹日本人逃難，於網上寫道：「幾百人在廣場避震完畢，整個過程，無一人抽煙，商店服務員跑來送上毯子、熱水、餅乾。男人幫女人拿東西、駁收音機，3個小時後，人散，地上沒有一片垃圾、一點也沒有。」

一名在日本便利店打工的中國人留言：「我媽問我：『有無趁地震加價？』沒有啊。我在7-11打工，食物飲料免費提供，沒有人哄搶。人們拿了免費食物，都會排隊到收銀台來說一聲謝謝。」也有內地網民想起2008年的5．12四川大地震：「學校啊學校，日本的學校是避難所、是最堅固的，這就需要我們學習。中國人的學校啊……」

張宏艷﹕日本人顧全大局

曾在日本留學的前新聞主播張宏艷，1995年親身採訪神戶7.2級大地震，當年已體會日本人面對災難的人文素養。張宏艷認為，日本民族宗旨是「顧全大局」，「日本人每做一件事，也會考慮對其他人的影響，例如人們不會在地鐵講電話。日本人顧全大局的心理質素久經訓練，在天災中發揮了關鍵作用，除了自救，亦不忘救人。」她認為，因為日本人「顧全大局」，世人才看到他們在災難面前不屈並守望相助的光輝人性。

作者: matt72178 時間: 2011-3-12 18:45

國民教育﹐唔到你唔服
日本黑社會都有份為國出一分力
美國都仲有趁火打劫

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-12 19:39

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-3-12 19:52 編輯

There is nothing special about these Japan pictures. Just regular rush hour pictures. They are used to crowded situations.
In China, from what I can see, the bus stations, subway and highspeed railway stations are just as orderly on a daily basis.

The Japanese are orderly people and robotic in style. This we already understand and respect.
But there is no need to bash the Chinese for no reason at all.

The Japanese are overly organized to the point of obsession.
Chinese are more normal, like the rest of the world.

China has 1.3 billion people to organize and maintain and they are doing just fine. During the Chinese New Year, billions of trips were made and everything was orderly. Everyday, China has the biggest number of trips and traffic movement in any country in the world.

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-3-12 19:41

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作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2011-3-12 19:57

令人敬佩
值得大家o既學習

There is nothing special about these Japan pictures. Just regular rush hour pictures. They are used ...
peter236 發表於 2011-3-12 19:39

遠方的中國網民目睹裂開的日本，為3年前的四川感慨之餘，亦不禁為災難中仍然挺直腰板顧全大局的日本人，舉起拇指讚好。

好心你學下遠方的中國網民啦

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-12 20:06

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-3-12 20:20 編輯

令人敬佩
值得大家o既學習

遠方的中國網民目睹裂開的日本，為3年前的四川感慨之餘，亦不禁為災難中仍然挺 ...
嘉嘉發表於 2011-3-12 19:57

Those 中國網民 probably have not been to Japan before. We have, so we know those are just regular rush hour traffic situation in Japan.

But every day 1.3 billion people move around orderly in China. Billions of trips are made orderly during the Chinese new Year. China has to organize 10 times more people on a daily basis than Japan.

The Japanese are orderly people and robotic in style. But there is no need to bash the Chinese for no reason at all.

The Japanese are excessively organized to the point of obsession.
The other countries do not need to copy from Japan. Chinese are more normal, like the rest of the world.

作者: matt72178 時間: 2011-3-12 20:30

Peter,
How many times did you see people lining up for public phones in the past 10 years?

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-12 20:51

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Peter,
How many times did you see people lining up for public phones in the past 10 years?
matt72178 發表於 2011-3-12 20:30

You mean in China? When I visited China, I didn't see people using public phones at all, as they are all using cell phones.

In North America, and Hong Kong, few people use public phones these days.

When i visited China, from what I could see, people at the bus stations, subway and highspeed railway stations are just as very orderly on a daily basis. Chinese stations are so crowded, and the only way to get on a train is to queue up.

作者: Nam 時間: 2011-3-12 20:55

Peter,

The whole point that we are trying to say is not bash Chinese. It just we are Chinese too, that's why when we look at these situation, we wish our motherland can be like that. Its like a mom look at their child kind thing, understand?

It's not that we love Japan and hate China, it's because we love China, that's why we wish our motherland eventually can improve to be a civilized and organized country, get it?

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-12 21:00

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-3-12 21:02 編輯

Peter,

The whole point that we are trying to say is not bash Chinese. It just we are Chinese too, ...
Nam 發表於 2011-3-12 20:55

You missed the point la. Why would Chinese or Canadians need to be like Japanese?

First, Chinese people are already orderly. I don't see Chinese fighting with each other to board a train. The subway and highspeed railway stations in China are just like in Hong Kong in terms of order and organization.

Second, the Japanese are excessively obsessed with order. We don't need to learn from them.
Chinese or any other country do not need to be "obsessed with order" like the Japanese.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-3-12 21:46

You missed the point la. Why would Chinese or Canadians need to be like Japanese?

First, Chinese p ...
peter236 發表於 2011-3-12 21:00

一口谎言，顺口雌黄

你去过中国没？你在中国坐过火车没？人地讲中国人要学习日本人的是素质

作者: LOK 時間: 2011-3-12 21:53

本帖最後由 LOK 於 2011-3-12 21:54 編輯

I've never seen the shelves all empty in 7-11 during a normal day. Peter, please explain.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-12 22:52

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-3-12 23:01 編輯

I've never seen the shelves all empty in 7-11 during a normal day. Peter, please explain.
LOK 發表於 2011-3-12 21:53

Why do you need an explanation? The Japanese got stranded and could not go home. They bought whatever food they could find at 7-11. New supplies could not get to 7-11. The earthquake didn't hit the biggest Japanese cities anyway. So the other parts of Japan were relatively normal.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-3-12 23:15

Suen ba la, 9 not to 8, chicken talk to duck....

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2011-3-12 23:47

Suen ba la, 9 not to 8, chicken talk to duck....
Catpiano 發表於 2011-3-12 23:15

CP
I like your chinglish >o<

作者: ordinary_girl 時間: 2011-3-12 23:57

Suen ba la, 9 not to 8, chicken talk to duck....
Catpiano 發表於 2011-3-12 23:15

exactly~ ignore him and don't waste your time on someone like him la

i always skip reading his BS

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2011-3-13 01:18

yes. it's hard to explain to him. @@

作者: soli 時間: 2011-3-13 01:37

我以前響山頂大學讀書時﹐搭巴士落山未試過排隊﹐亦未見過有人排隊既

與其話中國﹐不如先做好自己。

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-3-13 02:34

日本得體抗災中國網民讚歎學校成避難所勾起川震回憶

(明報)2011年3月13日星期日 05:05

【明報專訊】雖 ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-3-12 18:38

I was about to post this article as well but found you already did.

The Japanese did earn my respect for their reactions and behaviors during a catastrophic incident like this. They set a very good example to us - the Chinese.

We should humble ourselves and learn from them.

作者: matt72178 時間: 2011-3-13 02:56

Peter 仔,
你老友就睇到個重點喇。

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-3-13 03:12

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-3-13 03:24 編輯

At the same time, I don't think we, the Chinese, need to 妄自菲薄. We did earn a lots of respects from western countries as well during 四川大地震.

We have to admit it will take a long time and great effort to improve 中國的國民素質。However, we shouldn't give up on it. Instead, we should always humble ourselves and learn from other countries and people to make ourselves stronger and truly a great nation.

作者: elan7e 時間: 2011-3-13 07:19

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回復 13# peter236

上海世博，入場人仕"秩序井然"，記憶新。

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-3-13 08:21

回復 23# soli

就係你呢庭敗類
讀幾多書都冇用

作者: bbqfish 時間: 2011-3-13 08:32

中國人的學校... 想起令人心酸。　可憐的小朋友，你以前每天早會唱國歌，可是這國家為了你做了什麼？　
上海世博。。。　世界博擊大會。。。　想起有個鬼佬被訪時笑說＂這就是中國＂，我覺得好羞家。
我以前響海邊大學讀書時﹐搭巴士日日排隊。
川震的時候，好多外國政府都有ＯＦＦＥＲ去幫手處理屍體，但ＰＲＣ說不。　但係Ｄ屍體好多都係就咁埋左，都無正式處理，確認。
http://www.hkttl.com/~hkgolden/?p=v&id=2904291&hl=219445
雲南地震看圖都好似有好多市民亙相幫助，也有基本的醫療。中國人也有好多好人的。雲南地震資料太少。希望有多Ｄ資料。
日本今次真係大ＷＯＫ，又地震，又核，又火山爆發。。。。

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2011-3-13 09:25

guys, I think we shouldn't really be pointing fingers and trying to hate each other at this point.
Japanese stay very calm to handle this disaster. I have family in Japan and they too tried their best to stay close and stay calm.

I just got an email from a friend who is visiting her family in Japan last week. She was with her friend in Tokyo during the quake. She sent us an email telling us a great story about her thoughts and what we can learn from them.

The hardest thing during this kind of disaster is to stay calm and do your best to help each other. And they tried their best to do it. It's really not easy to NOT panic and suppress fear.

And from her email, we can learn that this can be done with preparation and education. They couldn't do it back 30+ year ago. But after many years of training and drills, they can now.

A small section of her email:

Despite all that, everyone was calm and no one ran towards the door. If people had run to the door, they may have tripped over one another or got hit by falling objects. When I was 4, I was in a big earthquake as well. At that time, I was at a grocery store with my mom and saw many people running to the exit when my mom pushed me and my newborn brother under some table. People who ran out got injured or even killed because they got hit by falling glasses, etc. or got ran over by other people. Staying calm is the best thing we can do, but it is also the hardest thing to do when the unexpected occurs.

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2011-3-13 09:27

And so, here are 2 links that we should get ourselves familiar to drills and preparation.

http://www.wikihow.com/Prepare-for-an-Earthquake
http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.g ... parer/index-eng.php

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-13 10:12

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-3-13 10:22 編輯

At the same time, I don't think we, the Chinese, need to 妄自菲薄. We did earn a lots of respects fr ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-3-13 03:12

The Japanese are more obsessively organized than most other countries in the world, but that does not mean we Chinese are not organized, compared to most other countries.

China always does a good job in rescue after natural disasters, much better than in New Orleans or in India.

China has to organize the daily activities of 1.3 billion people on a daily basis.
Chinese bus, subway and train stations all function smoothly on a daily basis.

China and the rest of the world do not necessarily need to emulate the Japanese style of obsessive organization. Remember, their style of organization is shaped by their unique geographic environment.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-13 10:21

回復 peter236

上海世博，入場人仕"秩序井然"，記憶新。
elan7e 發表於 2011-3-13 07:19

上海世博 was well organized. They had 70 million visitors, the largest in Expo history.
Despite the behaviors of a minority, in general, the Shanghai Expo was orderly.

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-3-13 10:34

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作者: sheep 時間: 2011-3-13 10:38

回復 34# fy789

都好多 exceptions

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-3-13 10:43

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作者: Guy 時間: 2011-3-14 07:22

國民教育﹐唔到你唔服
日本黑社會都有份為國出一分力
美國都仲有趁火打劫 ...
matt72178 發表於 2011-3-12 18:45

YES YES YES...... That why i love the people there....

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-3-14 08:30

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作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-14 12:40

呢到d人真係好雙重標準，如事者發生在汶川大地震，評論將會如下；

「共產黨人貪汚腐敗，廢絕人寰，無力救 ...
fy789 發表於 2011-3-14 08:30

what a ton of lie?

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-3-14 12:52

what a ton of lie?
peter236 發表於 2011-3-14 12:40

why you use ?
you know it is true.

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-3-14 12:53

呢到d人真係好雙重標準，如事者發生在汶川大地震，評論將會如下；

「共產黨人貪汚腐敗，廢絕人寰，無力救 ...
fy789 發表於 2011-3-14 08:30

呢到只有一個標準
就係以民為本出發

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-3-14 14:17

回復 42# sheep

From the people, with the people, for the people...

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-3-14 14:33

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作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-3-14 15:24

回復 sheep

如果「以民為本」就唔會喺地震帶狂起核電廠喇，計時炸彈黎架！

日本白痴政客同政府有私心（ ...
fy789 發表於 2011-3-14 14:33

你說得對~

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-3-14 16:11

回復 sheep

如果「以民為本」就唔會喺地震帶狂起核電廠喇，計時炸彈黎架！

日本白痴政客同政府有私心（ ...
fy789 發表於 2011-3-14 14:33

In fact, China's coal burning power plants are a lot more safer eventhough air pollution is bad. China should stop construction of all nuclear plants. The foreigners should not bash China for air pollution and building hydro-electric power plants.

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