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作者: auyatyat 時間: 2011-4-17 21:43 標題: 回流

有無過來人分享o下..

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2011-4-17 23:13

你要回流？？

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-4-17 23:49

點解要回流？

除非你係屋企有盤生意等住你返香港打理，又或者你係炒股奇才，如果唔係嘅話，千其唔好用香港容易啲搵工、容易啲揾錢來做回流嘅理由。

如果你唔想朝7晚11咁日做夜做、死做爛做嘅話，咁你要考慮清楚：點解你想回流返香港？

如果你係鍾意香港果一份熱鬧、果一份方便、果一份越夜越漂亮嘅話，咁加拿大呢邊你一定搵唔到。但你同時亦要考慮一吓，離開加拿大嘅話，你會 give up 啲乜野？響呢邊嘅舒適、高質數生活對你來講緊要啲，定係香港繁華、多姿多采嘅生活緊要啲？

另一樣我認為應該要考慮嘅就係，你今年幾大？家庭、感情／婚姻狀況又如何？其實呢個往往係一個極大又重要嘅 factor。

魚與熊掌，你只能選一。

-力

p.s.要再提多你一樣嘅就係，今時今日嘅香港，好可能並非係你心目中所想像嘅香港一樣。現今香港話就話背靠祖國，但實際上就即係漸趨大陸化。面對香港各式各樣各層面都不斷轉變，你又有無將呢樣野計算埋入去考慮因素裡面呢？

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-17 23:56

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-4-17 23:58 編輯

I don't see anything wrong with Hong Kong 大陸化, as China is leading the world's economy. People want to be part of the action.

Well, there are ~230,000 Canadians in Hong Kong now. There must be something attractive about Hong Kong.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-4-18 00:23

I don't see anything wrong with Hong Kong 大陸化, as China is leading the world's economy. People want to be part of the action.
peter236 發表於 2011-4-17 23:56

對你條契弟來講，香港大陸化當然就無問題啦～

個人來講，大陸人粗魯無文化、唔守秩序、財大氣粗。你條契弟自己都係咁，當然就唔覺得有問題啦？

響社會層面來講，香港自由度不斷縮窄、民主程度不斷下降，民眾嘅訴求不斷進一步被莫視，而由官員到成個政府都越來越唔負責任。成個官場文化嘅轉變都係漸趨大陸化嘅後果。

係好定唔好，樓主自行決定啦～啲廢柴要廢up，我都阻止唔到佢。

-力

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-4-18 00:31

對你條契弟來講，香港大陸化當然就無問題啦～

個人來講，大陸人粗魯無文化、唔守秩序、財大氣粗。你條契 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-4-18 16:23

唔知係唔係小弟少出街, 我真係唔覺得香港有力少口中既大陸化... 粗魯無文化、唔守秩序、財大氣粗, 我都冇乜o係香港見過. 我覺得香港所謂既大陸化, 只係o係經濟層面上而已, 唔好講到去左香港就會變左冇文化既人吧~

-- 有文化, 有秩序, 又謙虛既香港人 MJJ

作者: yokult 時間: 2011-4-18 07:18

I hear more and more mandarin in Hong Kong. Most common is retail. Sales greet me in mandarin. @@

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-4-18 07:50

i wannna know, is it good to do that now?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-4-18 07:50

All depends on area/time gei jei ..

You go TST/West 9 during CHINA holiday .. then lots of mainlanders .. And they are the rich dudes ... and yes, they are more 粗魯無文化、唔守秩序、財大氣粗 ... but their girls are usually HOT wor ..

so .. that breaks even la..  lol

If you go MK/Prince/TW etc at 3/4 am ...  then near no mainlander at all .. and still very pure HONGISH .. ^_^  or go YMD Market etc ...

However, even CWB .. WC .. more and more mandarin speaking everywhere la..  however, go Happy Valley, (lunch/dinner) still cantonese everywhere .. ^_^

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-18 11:27

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-4-18 11:34 編輯

對你條契弟來講，香港大陸化當然就無問題啦～

個人來講，大陸人粗魯無文化、唔守秩序、財大氣粗。你條契弟自己都係咁，當然就唔覺得有問題啦？

響社會層面來講，香港自由度不斷縮窄、民主程度不斷下降，民眾嘅訴求不斷進一步被莫視，而由官員到成個政府都越來越唔負責任。成個官場文化嘅轉變都係漸趨大陸化嘅後果。

係好定唔好，樓主自行決定啦～啲廢柴要廢up，我都阻止唔到佢。
Lik 發表於 2011-4-18 00:23

I understand what you mean by 財大氣粗. But this type of behavior is usually associated with rapidly developing countries, and certainly not unique to China. It is the same with all the newly rich in any country. Hong Kong newly rich people was 財大氣粗 like that in the 1970s-1980s.

Certainly only a small number of Chinese have bad bahaviour, and they are improving as well.

So you just stop being jealous of China's rapid improvement in living standards.

Also, 廢柴要廢up. How come other's comment is 廢柴要廢up? How about your own comments? Are your comments always right?

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-18 11:30

I hear more and more mandarin in Hong Kong. Most common is retail. Sales greet me in mandarin. @@
yokult 發表於 2011-4-18 07:18

Chinese Tourists from Taiwan, Singapore, and Malaysia also can speak Mandarin.

作者: hangfat 時間: 2011-4-18 11:49

you hear more & more mandarin in vancouver now !!
even the Bay's announcements are in manadarin.
there're 300,000 canadians in hk, so there must be something about hk that attracts that many people back in hk.

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-4-18 15:43

本帖最後由 ricrick 於 2011-4-18 15:47 編輯

there is also a reason why perter is still staying in canada
his reason of staying is 1:1000 as he claims china is so livable

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-18 16:04

you hear more & more mandarin in vancouver now !!
even the Bay's announcements are in manadarin.
there're 300,000 canadians in hk, so there must be something about hk that attracts that many people back in hk.
hangfat 發表於 2011-4-18 11:49

There are more Canadians in Hong Kong than in Richmond.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-4-18 20:07

So .. what are those people in Richmond? if they are not Canadian ??

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-4-18 20:11

what do i do in here?
i want to know what could i say to customs when i return canada after a year staying outside canada

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-4-18 20:14

So .. what are those people in Richmond? if they are not Canadian ??
Catpiano 發表於 2011-4-19 12:07

地球人.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-4-18 20:16

地球人.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-4-18 20:14

Aiya.. I want to hear Peter's answer ar ma .. lol

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-18 20:31

So .. what are those people in Richmond? if they are not Canadian ??
Catpiano 發表於 2011-4-18 20:07

hahaha, do you have something wrong with your logic?
I didn't say people in Richmond are not Canadians.

Just for you easier to understand:
There are more Canadians in Hong Kong than there are Canadians in Richmond.

作者: chobit 時間: 2011-4-18 22:40

I think that's what he means:

According to City of Richmond.
With a population estimated in 2008 to be 188,100 people, Richmond is a growing dynamic urban centre with a unique mix of residential, and commercial property, agricultural lands, industrial parks, waterways and natural areas. It lies where the River meets the ocean.

地球人.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-4-18 20:14

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-4-18 22:53

I think that's what he means:

According to City of Richmond.
With a population estimated in 2008 to ...
chobit 發表於 2011-4-19 14:40

乜原來你地果邊咁少人架? 唔怪得之咁地靈人傑啦~

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2011-4-19 00:08

auyatyat真係慘

人地開個topic講回流
力哥同peter叔就入o黎搞亂檔。

點解可以咁得閒o架？？？？？

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-4-19 00:17

嘉嘉，你千其唔好話我搞亂擋。唔該你睇返我呢條 thread 裡面啲 post，每一個都係同 auyatyat 討論緊我對回流嘅利弊同回流所會面對嘅野。如果咁樣都算搞亂檔嘅話，我真係無野好講。

-力

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-4-19 00:31

為左唔好搞亂檔, 呢個post 唔好離題先~
香港最衰最衰既就係空氣污染... 尤其係urban area, 空氣差起上黎真係會覺得呼吸困難的.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-19 02:13

auyatyat真係慘

人地開個topic講回流
力哥同peter叔就入o黎搞亂檔。

點解可以咁得閒o架？？？？？ ...
嘉嘉發表於 2011-4-19 00:08

hahaha, it was moron Lik who was talking crap. All I said was there are 230,000 Canadians in Hong Kong, there must be something attractive in Hong Kong.

作者: jennypun 時間: 2011-4-19 02:27

Think x 3... Such a big decision!!

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-4-19 06:53

回復 21# mcjohnjohn

Richmond is already one of the "populated" area here...

作者: 祈願文 時間: 2011-4-19 07:17

以前真係幾多香港人在這里。現在﹖好似少了一點。將來﹖應該越來越少。回流﹖睇下你想接觸什麼人多一點。

作者: auyatyat 時間: 2011-4-19 08:22

haha. not planning it now, but some friends went hk after graduation, some decided to stay, there's no right or wrong answer. I like the environment here, can play tennis every week, can go home at 5pm every day, stable job, more time to work out, it's actually more opportunities for my industry (if you are willing to pick up calls anytime, and work in weekends). However, all close friends and family are living in hk....

作者: auyatyat 時間: 2011-4-19 08:24

I actually forget that I have this topic here, just finished exam yesterday, didn't online for few days..haha

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-4-19 08:26 標題: c

can you guys say for work to canada customs if you return after a year?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-4-19 09:17

As long as you have a decent place to live in HK .... then HK is good .... ^^

作者: enjoylifetoday 時間: 2011-4-19 09:21

customs may ask you... did u pay tax during the year? lol

回流... depends how much u like HK la... i know ppl back to HK right after school for work, for family, for whatever reason. Some ppl quite happy living in HK.
I also know ppl 回流 to HK and coming back to Van pretty soon, because too used to the life here, living in HK is too different and they can't adapt to the HK life style.
Health is a good issue too. a lot of 回流 ppl i know are having weaker body (always sick) after back to HK, due to air, unhealthy life style (always eat out, OT too much, etc.) and stress.

作者: auyatyat 時間: 2011-4-19 15:31

most of my friends living in HK look older than their actual age....too much pressure from work and life

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-4-19 15:33

most of my friends living in HK look older than their actual age....too much pressure from work and ...
auyatyat 發表於 2011-4-19 15:31

Yee .. the other way around for my friends wor ..

Um .. should say, depends on men or women .. I agree most men look younger here then men in HK .. (my friends are all 3x yr old) but women .. 3X yr old women in HK, look better then 3X yr women I know here for sure la..

作者: auyatyat 時間: 2011-4-19 15:36

回復 35# Catpiano

i feel that they are quite tired, get off work around 7-8pm (very normal), a lot of them work during weekends (especially teachers), always look so sleepy no matter men or women

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-4-19 16:09

7-8 pm is early ga la wor ..

The different is .. they hv a choice to work longer hour .. for more money/position .. not here in general.

They look sleepy .. since lots of nite life/fun/entertainment ma ..

Everytime I go HK, just vacation, but hardly get 5 hr/day sleep .. vs 8 hr here .. (10-11 hr for my wife)

作者: hangfat 時間: 2011-4-19 17:16

well , people live longer in hk !!!
in fact , they rank #1 or 2 in the world.
there was a study that people who return to hk ( retired people) took less medication and live happier and healthier in hk, i feel this is quite true after talking to my relatives and friends who returned to hk.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-4-19 19:59

Getting off work at 7 or 8pm in HK is early la. I know people that regularly work until 9 or 10 or even later la. And they start work at 9 in the morning as well. 12 hr work days are nothing special in HK la.

As far as longevity is concerned, I bet the numbers would be quite different if you only look at the HK or Chinese immigrants here in Vancouver, and compare them to those in HK. In many ways, health is a function of environment, food, and life style habits. The typical southeastern Chinese diet is healthier than the typical North American diet because we eat a lot more veggies. In HK, I suppose you get a little more exercise because you have to walk and rely on public transit anywhere you go, but the environment here in Canada is way nicer. If you keep up with exercising here in Canada, there is no way we'd be less healthy and live shorter lives than those in HK la.

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-19 20:48

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-4-19 20:51 編輯

well , people live longer in hk !!!
in fact , they rank #1 or 2 in the world.
there was a study that people who return to hk ( retired people) took less medication and live happier and healthier in hk, i feel this is quite true after talking to my relatives and friends who returned to hk.
hangfat 發表於 2011-4-19 17:16

People in HK or China are usually more up beat due to better prospects of developments in the society.

People in Hong Kong and China are getting healthier because of all the new big shopping malls, new subway system, and highspeed railway stations, where just getting on and off trains demands at least some walking.

作者: DragonFire 時間: 2011-4-19 23:37

十年前自己仲後生，所以選擇番香港工作試試自己"身手"，十年過後得到最大o既"回報"就係依家身邊o既另一半。其他方面，健康一直下降變成差不多每個月都會病一次，工作方面錢係搵得多但壓力極大，社會上要面對o既o野更加令人冇機會停落o黎休息。

既然溫哥華有咁好o既生活質素，點解仲要番去捱苦﹖無錯呢邊收入少o左，但係至少自己開心番，壓力又少。再加上如果有仔女，一諗到佢o地要去面對香港依家o既變態環境，加重唔再落o係香港o既意慾。

所以，我選擇溫哥華~

作者: hangfat 時間: 2011-4-20 07:34

my guess is people in hk do walk a lot more (it's a very good exercise) yes , environment here is way nicer but during winter , older people are stuck at home, whereas in hk , they go to morning tea, then shopping for dinner or go to some activities, it's so convinient , and talking to people at restaurants or other places, make them feel less lonely.

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2011-4-20 08:46

十年前自己仲後生，所以選擇番香港工作試試自己"身手"，十年過後得到最大o既"回報"就係依家身邊o既另一半。 ...
DragonFire 發表於 2011-4-19 23:37

So true. Kids are alot happier in Vancouver. HK parents pay an arm and leg to send kids to International schools, but that kind of education is free here. And most HK kids are raise by Bum Bum lor. Some Bum Bum are good, but not everyone is lucky to find one.

For the young and single, I would go back for the lifestyle/opportunity.

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