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作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-4-22 19:41 標題: 黑心紅薯粉珠三角通街賣

黑心紅薯粉珠三角通街賣
廣東黑心食品愈揭愈多，珠三角民眾防不勝防。中山市質監局前日破獲黑心薯粉工場，赫然發現奸商以平價粟米粉加入墨汁、檸檬黃、增白劑等染色，再用工業石蠟增加口感，大肆製造假薯粉。現場起出五噸假薯粉，但已有至少四十五噸產品流出市面。令人驚訝的是該工場證照齊全，場主更大爆類似工場在東莞多達數十間，因競爭過於激烈，才搬至中山生產，網民齊聲炮轟當局執法不力。
由番薯製作的薯粉麵食在內地甚受歡迎，本港街頭近期興起的酸辣粉也用薯粉。但中山市有黑工場以平價粟米粉加料冒充，有民眾食用後出現嘔吐及肚瀉。中山市質監局接報後前日行動，前往港口鎮鋪錦村查封一間粉麵工場，發現場內空地正晾曬大量薯粉，但粉條表面顏色亮麗，情況異常。

每噸省逾二千元
質監人員進入工場搜查，發現場內有十多個水池，粉條浸在一片烏綠色的水中，傳出陣陣惡臭，水池旁邊則放有多個裝有黑色液體的水桶，周圍蚊蠅橫飛。在工場倉庫內，粟米粉堆積如山，另放有十多包精製石蠟，包裝上寫有「僅限工業使用」，唯獨不見番薯粉。

據工場負責人羅某供認，所謂「紅薯粉」由粟米粉製成，經自製染料染色，再加入工業石蠟增加粉條韌度，營造口感。據他表示，染料是在半公升水中，加入一瓶蓋的墨汁及一勺檸檬黃，如要製作墨綠色薯粉，就加入一勺果綠；製作白色薯粉則加增白劑粉。

質監局形同虛設
羅某稱，按此製法，每噸薯粉成本可節省逾二千多元，而自二月投產至今，已有四十五噸紅薯粉流入珠三角各地市場。中山市質監局調查指，該工場去年底以「中山市詳明食品有限公司」名義註冊，持有營運執照、生產許可證及衞生許可證，並在今年一月經質監局到場檢驗後，准予生產。質監局稽查分局局長郭潮群辯稱，工場在申請證件時未有問題，是取證以後才違規生產。

假薯粉曝光後，輿論怒斥當局執法不力，令黑工場走向全國，又諷稱當局經常提醒消費者購買前要細心分辨，是代表質監局已形同虛設。另外，國務院前日發出通知，要求嚴打食品非法添加行為，對故意違規企業處以嚴厲經濟處罰，負責人不得再從事食品相關行業。

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-4-22 20:10

響中國大陸，真係乜輪都唔使食...

-力

作者: auyatyat 時間: 2011-4-22 23:30

d人真係好無商德.賣老翻果d 都唔好,但係起碼食唔死人...

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-23 00:32

國務院前日發出通知，要求嚴打食品非法添加行為，對故意違規企業處以嚴厲經濟處罰，負責人不得再從事食品相關行業。
tiffiant 發表於 2011-4-22 19:41

I think a serious loophole is that no one is to 嚴打執法不力的部門和官員。

That is one of the reasons many 國務院的通知 were not executed properly and had limited results.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-23 00:40

本帖最後由 kingkong123 於 2011-4-23 00:43 編輯

I think a serious loophole is that no one is to 嚴打執法不力的部門和官員。

That is one of the re ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-23 00:32

根本的原因是道德的破产。睇问题唔好只是睇表面，你的睇法是何等的肤浅，证明你的经历系何等缺乏

香港人个个都好似你甘肤浅，一百年都没真正的民主自由，被共产党玩弄在鼓掌当中

道德信仰的破产源自于文化大革命，在经济改革中破产蔓延。邓小平的黑猫白猫论就是一个好好的例子

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-23 01:23

根本的原因是道德的破产。睇问题唔好只是睇表面，你的睇法是何等的肤浅，证明你的经历系何等缺乏
...
kingkong123 發表於 2011-4-23 00:40

Sorry, you just displayed your ignorant again publicly.

國家和政府的運作不可能靠道德維持，而是靠制度和法律。沒有制度如何管理？有法不依、依而不罰如何懲治？官員執法不力而無責，國家政策如何執行？

真些是靠道德能解決嗎？更不用說每個人的道德標準都不一樣。

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-23 08:21

Sorry, you just displayed your ignorant again publicly.

國家和政府的運作不可能靠道德維持，而是靠 ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-23 01:23

所以话你系，你睇到的只表面咯

道德是维系社会的基石，你读过政治学没？你读过社会学没？

没政治社会学的基础，你认为你睇问题会睇得透彻吗？低低地惯一铺，虚心学下野啦

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-4-23 08:44

響中國大陸，真係乜輪都唔使食...

-力
Lik 發表於 2011-4-22 20:10

You moron la.. China has cleanest and healthy food!!

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-4-23 08:58

回復 8# Catpiano

It probably has, but as the article pointed out the bad stuff is also 通街賣.

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-4-23 12:39

根本的原因是道德的破产。睇问题唔好只是睇表面，你的睇法是何等的肤浅，证明你的经历系何等缺乏
...
kingkong123 發表於 2011-4-23 00:40

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-23 14:56

道德是维系社会的基石，你读过政治学没？你读过社会学没？

没政治社会学的基础，你认为你睇问题会睇得透彻吗？低低地惯一铺，虚心学下野啦
kingkong123 發表於 2011-4-23 08:21

道德之所以是維係社會的基石是因為法律只可規範人民的行為，但不能代個人為其行為做出選擇。道德成為個人在行為上做出選擇時的一個最重要準則和指引，因此道德對個人和社會有非常重要的影響。

中國現在許多社會問題例如有毒食品問題的確是道德淪落的結果。這些現象正好認證我剛才關於道德是社會基石的論述。

但是政府的運作和政策的執行是另一回事。我在此虛心地向你請教－請你告訴我在哪里學的政治學和社會學教你國家和政府的運作是靠道德維持？哪一本政治社會學的書支持你的講法？

作者: bbqfish 時間: 2011-4-23 16:54

would like to see how peter response to this.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-23 20:34

道德之所以是維係社會的基石是因為法律只可規範人民的行為，但不能代個人為其行為做出選擇。道德成為個人 ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-23 14:56

你明白什么叫基石？什么叫基础？你讲野问非所答

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-4-23 20:44

懵仔，

法律根本就係建基於道德嘅 lowest common denominator，而執法同守法亦係遵從道德嘅最低標準。但偏偏大陸無數咁多奸商就有法不守，而中共自己亦有法不依。所以講到尾，問題其實都係兜兜轉轉咁返返去全國道德破案嘅問題之上。

咁簡單嘅道理都唔曉，仲要出來幫阿爺講好說話...

-力

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-23 20:45

道德之所以是維係社會的基石是因為法律只可規範人民的行為，但不能代個人為其行為做出選擇。道德成為個人 ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-23 14:56

中国的法不知几健全
执法问题米就是你共产党的问题咯，你一党独大，就造成官官相护。讲来讲去就是没监督

甘你都唔明？你层次系否底过头啊

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-4-23 20:58

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作者: peter236 時間: 2011-4-23 21:03

Democratic India is the best, when it comes to rampant corruption.

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-4-23 21:17

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作者: fy789 時間: 2011-4-23 21:24

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作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-24 00:32

你明白什么叫基石？什么叫基础？你讲野问非所答
kingkong123 發表於 2011-4-23 20:34

Instead of BSing anything else, just answer my question directly.

請你我話比我知到底邊一間學校，邊一科邊一本書教你國家和政府的運作是靠道德維持!

Don't be a coward and ran away like a dog again.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-24 00:33

懵仔，

法律根本就係建基於道德嘅 lowest common denominator，而執法同守法亦係遵從道德嘅最低標準。但偏 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-4-23 20:44

To show that you know what you are talking about.

Just tell us which law book teaches you this - "法律根本就係建基於道德嘅 lowest common denominator，而執法同守法亦係遵從道德嘅最低標準。"

I will be waiting for your answer and hope you don't run away like a dog again.

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-4-24 08:20

美國係世界頭號民主大國，有齊哂民主同多政黨，普選同大把監督，
但係一樣排廿二咋噃！唔知點解呢？ ...
fy789 發表於 2011-4-23 21:24

The problem in the US is the pendulum swing too far to the democratic side and they have a two party system.  Everything is put up for debate and every issue has two powerful lobby groups to pull the law makers to their side.  There are too many opportunities for wrong doing and the monitor system is not able to catch up.

US is democratic as all issues are open.  However, they are NOT democratic, as you can only vote for GOP or Democrat

The situation in Canada is better than the US, as the Canadian lobby groups are not as powerful and we have multiple political parties.  Not only the system is monitoring for the corruption, the monitoring between parties is stronger.

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-4-24 08:27

Don't want to be in the cross fire, but I can give one example of 法律建基於道德... That is abortion. It is legal, and is provided, in some countries, but it is illegal in others. It also depends on the 道德 stand of that country.

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-4-24 10:44

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作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-24 11:40

Don't want to be in the cross fire, but I can give one example of 法律建基於道德... That is abortion ...
blue20ae 發表於 2011-4-24 08:27

Just wait and see how Lik would stand up for what he said and judge it yourself. But I would doubt Lik would have the gut to do so. He would possibly BS somthing else and avoid answering the question directly.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-24 21:39

Instead of BSing anything else, just answer my question directly.

請你我話比我知到底邊一間學校， ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-24 00:32

春袋仔你去死啦，讲野九唔答八，我几时讲过”國家和政府的運作是靠道德維持!”

你有病，就去睇医生。

你就珍惜coward 啦，一只狗甘乱吠，唔叼你，你都唔知自己出丑。给面你，唔要面

你连大陆都没住过，共产党的政治学都没学过，你有什么资格challenge 我啊？
你懂得有几多啊？

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-24 21:41

Just wait and see how Lik would stand up for what he said and judge it yourself. But I would doubt ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-24 11:40

你D 就嚒春问题姐？

七碌二下甘，人讲东你讲西

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-24 22:55

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-4-24 23:02 編輯

春袋仔你去死啦，讲野九唔答八，我几时讲过”國家和政府的運作是靠道德維持!”

你有病，就去睇医生 ...
kingkong123 發表於 2011-4-24 21:39

Just go back to read what I said in post #4 and 6 and what you said in post #5 and 7.

Your reaction was well anticipated. What would I expect from an idiot mad dog?

Regardless of whether I ever lived in China or not, it has nothing to do with what you said is valid or not. Moreover, you had never been able to stand up for what you said and failed consistently to face my challenge . What you could do was just 發爛乍和用粗言穢語攻擊他人.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-25 10:50

Just go back to read what I said in post #4 and 6 and what you said in post #5 and 7.

Your react ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-24 22:55

收皮啦你，你又够胆回答我问题吗？我有讲过”國家和政府的運作是靠道德維持!”？

你够姜回答我问题吗？

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-25 11:03

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-4-25 11:16 編輯

收皮啦你，你又够胆回答我问题吗？我有讲过”國家和政府的運作是靠道德維持!”？

你够姜回答我问题吗 ...
kingkong123 發表於 2011-4-25 10:50

It doesn't matter you admit it or not. People on LYK will be able to judge based on their own reading.

Give you a chance to state your position clearly again. Just tell us - do you agree "國家和政府的運作是靠制度和法律維持而不是靠道德"?

It is just a simple "Yes" or "No" question and I hope you will have the gut to answer it directly instead of continuing BS.

P.S. Lik has been supporting you. Why don't you call him up to answer this question together? I am still waiting for his explanation of what he said about law and morality. But I expect he gonna be a coward again.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-25 15:04

It doesn't matter you admit it or not. People on LYK will be able to judge based on their own read ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-25 11:03

使春你讲国家和政府运作是靠法律维持，道德是一个社会基础。

中国的问题不在于法律问题，在于道德和素质的问题。

如果讲法律问题，其实就是共产党的问题，法系你共产党制定的，行政系你共产党制定的，执法都系你共产党一手包办，你都已经自编自导自演，你自己搞唔点怪得边个？

中国人的道德观念被摧毁你够胆讲唔系你共产党一手造成？你够胆讲唔系吗？

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-25 15:18

如果讲法律问题，其实就是共产党的问题，法系你共产党制定的，行政系你共产党制定的，执法都系你共产党一手包办，你都已经自编自导自演，你自己搞唔点怪得边个？

中国人的道德观念被摧毁你够胆讲唔系你共产党一手造成？你够胆讲唔系吗？
kingkong123 發表於 2011-4-25 15:04

Just open your eyes and read what I had said first.

First, what I said in post#4 and 6 was directly aim to the point of the problem of 行政和法治問題。 Do you understand English at all?

Second, didn't I say it multiple times that 文革摧毀了中國的許多優秀傳統和價值觀並造成現今的價值觀混亂和道德淪落？Read what other people said first before attacking with your shxt mouth.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-25 20:32

Just open your eyes and read what I had said first.

First, what I said in post#4 and 6 was direc ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-25 15:18

张开你的屎眼睇下啦，由头到尾都是你自己狗唔答八。你自己乱叼河马在先你钟好意思学狗吠？
do you understand English or Chinese at all 啊契弟

你发表谬论的时候先睇下人地写的野，唔系你自己丢架没人帮到你啊

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-25 20:49

回復 33# kingkong123

You just gave LYK a good demostration of what a shameless mad dog is like.

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2011-4-25 20:55

回復 kingkong123

You just gave LYK a good demostration of what a shameless mad dog is like.
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-25 20:49

你的mad dog 本性已经显示得淋漓尽致啦，根本无需要我画蛇添足

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-4-26 11:01

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-4-26 11:09 編輯

Don't want to be in the cross fire, but I can give one example of 法律建基於道德... That is abortion ...
blue20ae 發表於 2011-4-24 08:27

Since the coward idiot Lik has no gut to face the stupid comments which he mad purely based on his own 宅男 style self-imagination, I will respond to your comments in simple form.

What Lik said – “法律根本就係建基於道德嘅 lowest common denominator，而執法同守法亦係遵從道德嘅最低標準。” is not true and that is why he cannot find any backup for what he said and he chose to avoid facing the reality and his ignorant once again.

Law is a set of rules made to administrate and govern the country and people even though morality certainly has implication on the making of law.

Many scholars hold the opinion – people should look at law independently from morality.

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