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作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-1 11:43 標題: 加拿大總理 -- 林頓 Jack Layton

本帖最後由 satil 於 2011-5-1 11:45 編輯

有可能發生嗎?

如何?

跟據4 月28日的民調, 保守黨與新民主黨相距6%. 自由黨大複度落後, 但自由黨與新民立黨加起來的支持度為52%, 比起保守黨的35%高。

即是:

Harpar會是小數黨政府, 新民主黨是官式反對黨, 新民主黨與自由黨的議席加起來比保守黨多。

林頓如何成為總理?

保守黨提出新國會的第一份施政演說。新民主黨和自由黨聯合否決。

由於未能獲得信心的投票，哈珀是被迫辭去總理。當時的總督是必須要求的官方反對黨領袖，如果他能獲得眾議院的信任。林頓說 “是“，新民主黨和自由黨組成聯合，林頓當選總理與葉禮庭為副總理。

那麼，這意味著加拿大？

這裡有一些林頓的競選承諾和政策：

支出承諾的690億美元將資助一個神話混合碳稅，提高大企業所得稅率和提高社會主義福利。

加強工會權力反對壟斷和私營部門提供公共服務，如醫療保健和教育。

擴展魁北克的101語言法案的條文，幾十萬的聯邦公務員居住在魁北克。這意味著，例如，加拿大稅務的國家行動辦公室將被要求進行所有的工作只有法文。一個奇怪的，完全不切實際的承諾的幫助推動了新民主黨的支持率激增，魁北克。

打開並修改加拿大憲法的條款是可以接受的魁北克。這是最後一次嘗試，魁北克的自我服務的需求大為不滿英語加拿大，導致失敗的夏洛特協議分居全民公決之後，幾乎撕裂我們的國家分裂。

大量撥款醫療, 教育 (錢由何來是加稅還是外借未有交代！)

怎樣才能制止這種噩夢的發生？
只有一個辦法。選出一個保守黨做大多數政府！

自由黨員，這不是自由黨與保守黨之爭，
這是你為你的加拿大，
為你自己着想，
為你的子女日後生活着想，你想要一個NDP加拿大?

未打算出來投票的你，
保守黨，自由黨，綠黨的支持者，請一定要來投票，
同反NDP，一票都不能少！

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 12:16

Ignatieff 向公眾講過好多次，話唔會攪聯盟政府（Coalition Government)。但政治一日都嫌長，而政客反口就更加係易過食生菜。

三黨裡面，我敢肯定 NDP 一定會拖垮加拿大嘅經濟，因此我一定唔會投佢。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-1 12:21

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-1 12:23 編輯

The NDP can only print more money like in the US, which will cause the country to go bankrupt sooner.
But if the voters select the NDP, the voters have no one to blame, but themselves.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-5-1 12:23

GAY!
......

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 12:33

The NDP can only print more money like in the US, which will cause the country to go bankrupt sooner.
But if the voters select the NDP, the voters have no one to blame, but themselves.
peter236 發表於 2011-5-1 12:21

五毛，

唔該你用吓個腦，你估加拿大係老美，響呢個國際社會有足夠嘅影響力，可以有效咁用印銀紙來還債？從來NDP嘅絕招都只會係打壓同打劫企業、生意人，然後左手派錢俾人，但右手又狂加你稅來搶返晒。

你無料又唔識野，就唔該你讀吓書、充實吓自己先至好出來獻醜露乖啦～

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-1 12:41

五毛，

唔該你用吓個腦，你估加拿大係老美，響呢個國際社會有足夠嘅影響力，可以有效咁用印銀紙來還債？ ...
Lik 發表於 2011-5-1 12:33

Mr Lik, we are not saying Canada can print more money than the US. But like all other countries, Canada can issue debt.
Canada governments regardless of the party, in general prints money and borrows by issuing debt, that is why the national debt is so high. Maybe lower per capita debt than the Americans, but still high debt.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 12:53

The NDP can only print more money like in the US, which will cause the country to go bankrupt sooner ...
peter236 發表於 2011-5-1 12:21

繼續死撐、死兜啦你～自己大大隻字寫到咁明都可以唔認，真係唔寫個服字俾你都唔得。

幾時得閒，不如教吓我點樣可以好似你咁厚顏無恥？

-力

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-5-1 13:19

Um.... Peter has his point this time.....but he did say something, and decline again.....um....

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-5-1 13:25

Um.... Peter has his point this time.....but he did say something, and decline again.....um....
Catpiano 發表於 2011-5-1 13:19

if the voters select the NDP, the voters have no one to blame, but themselves.
peter236 發表於 2011-5-1 12:21

I do like this

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-1 13:27

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-1 13:32 編輯

繼續死撐、死兜啦你～自己大大隻字寫到咁明都可以唔認，真係唔寫個服字俾你都唔得。

幾時得閒，不如教吓 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-5-1 12:53

hahaha, do you even understand English?

I said "The NDP can only print more money like in the US"

I didn't say "The NDP can print more money than the US"

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-1 13:50

Can we back to topic, any suggestion, how to stop NDP, not vote for them is not enough.

or will Liberal willing to stay under NDP? or stay under Conservative?

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 14:21

要阻止NDP上位，唔係投票俾 Conservatives 就係投俾 Liberals 㗎啦？投俾 Green 或者其他人，都只會間接幫 NDP 坐大。而除咗自己投票之外，更重要嘅就係呼籲身邊嘅親戚朋友作出一個精明嘅選擇，然後去投票。

個人認為，身為百年老牌黨嘅 Liberals，應該唔會折墮到肯走去幫 NDP 做阿二，但 Liberals 自己都講過，如果真係輸咗嘅話，係唔會排除同 NDP 合併。所謂嘅合併同組織聯合政府 (coalition government）有乜野反別，我真係睇唔到。但呢啲野實在太難預測，所以依家講咩都係無用。

-力

作者: 老友四號 時間: 2011-5-1 14:43

唔係喎！祖国實行社会主义，E+不知几富強！所以

冇得傾呀！一於投票俾 NDP！

社会主义万岁!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2011-5-1 14:46

而除咗自己投票之外，更重要嘅就係呼籲身邊嘅親戚朋友作出一個精明嘅選擇，然後去投票。
Lik 發表於 2011-5-1 14:21

民主選舉既精神，係就算至親，你都係唔可以左右佢地既投票意向，更加唔應該問佢地會投邊個同點解。

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 14:55

唔係左右佢地既投票意向，而係籲身邊嘅親戚朋友，要履行佢地嘅公民責任，認識一吓各政黨嘅政綱，然後作出一個精明嘅選擇。

而且，就算係互相討論會投邊個同點解要投佢，甚至係作一定嘅遊說，我都完全唔認為係問題。透過討論、甚至係爭辯去對事情有更多角度、更清晰嘅理解，又點會係一件壞事呢？

（當然，如果唔相屋企家嘈屋閉，唔同家庭成員討論政治可能係一個比較明智嘅方法。

）

-力

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-1 14:58

回復 13# 老友四號

中國現時行的是社會主義?! 你瞓醒未呀?

人均得2000元就富強?! 嘩, 我咪超超超富強!!

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-1 15:03

回復 14# MoiRhapsody

但可事前作事實分析, 共開討論, 咁唔算左右呀, 當然最終點投, 真係無謂問, 免傷和氣.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 15:15

中國現時行的是社會主義?! 你瞓醒未呀?

人均得2000元就富強?! 嘩, 我咪超超超富強!! ...
satil 發表於 2011-5-1 14:58

四哥係玩嘲諷嗟。師兄你唔使咁緊張～

-力

作者: AnitaMok 時間: 2011-5-1 15:53

WHAT?! LAYTON? WTF!!

作者: zoids 時間: 2011-5-1 16:07

You obviously got paid to promote Conservatives here... if it was the old LYK, you will be banned for sure.

Sigh...

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-1 16:12

回復 20# zoids

你錯了, 到這階段, 自由黨又好, 保守黨又好, 點都唔可以係新民主黨!

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-5-1 16:22

到這階段, 自由黨又好,新民主黨又好, 點都唔可以係保守黨

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-5-1 16:54

到這階段, 自由黨又好,新民主黨又好, 點都唔可以係保守黨
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-5-1 16:22

傳統家庭觀念係保守
但係
修身治國平天下
必備嘅

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-5-1 17:03

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2011-5-1 17:04 編輯

Bill C-389
不是治國嘅靈丹妙藥

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-1 17:05

大勢已變，需看清形勢，改變策略，敵人或盟友，都要顧全大局，在混戰的最後階段，你看清楚自己今次又無運行的時候，你情願選懂洒錢的極左，還是選懂搵錢的極右？提出 AnythingButConservative 是Liberal對Conservative非常口響的攻擊, 建基於NDP的弱勢,就算聯合政府, 都好應Liberal做大婆, 勢估唔到NDP會扒頭。點知現時形勢Liberal變咗二奶。唔想揇住死, 做人要識轉膊。

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-1 17:40

Support Green party, Canadians are environmentalists.

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-5-1 19:35

唔係喎！祖国實行社会主义，E+不知几富強！所以

冇得傾呀！一於投票俾 NDP！

社会主义万岁!!!!!!!!!!!! ...
老友四號發表於 2011-5-1 14:43

My friend, NDP is almost but not 社会主义 yet. There is a Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada in the ballot, at least in my riding.

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-5-1 19:42

自由黨又好,新民主黨又好, 保守黨又好... Just make sure you vote. In here, we can argue and disagree. Not everyone in the world has this right.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-1 19:57

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-1 20:08 編輯

The Chinese candidates have strong chance to win seats:

Alice Wong
Wai Young
Ronald Leung

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 22:00

Alice Wong 就應該贏哽，但 Wai Young同梁英年就真係好難講。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-1 22:22

Alice Wong 就應該贏哽，但 Wai Young同梁英年就真係好難講。

-力
Lik 發表於 2011-5-1 22:00

Ujjal Dosanjh only won Wai Young by about 20 votes the last election.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-5-1 22:23

My friend, NDP is almost but not 社会主义 yet. There is a Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada in th ...
blue20ae 發表於 2011-5-1 19:35

yes.. there is a Marxist in Vancouver Central.

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-1 22:38

希望Ignatieff會點風骨，寧為玉碎，不作瓦存？！要看他是否會寧為NDP副手低聲下氣，都要黐點權勢？那一個共產主義工會強福利高的國家會好？極左就大把例子證明行唔通。

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-1 22:40

Ujjal Dosanjh only won Wai Young by about 20 votes the last election.
peter236 發表於 2011-5-1 22:22

That's only b/c Wai Young was a nobody in the last election, and Ujjal took her far too lightly. For the whole time, he was helping others with their campaigning instead of working on his own. But this time, both Ujjal and Wai Young are bringing in the heavy artilleries to draw out every last vote they could secure.

Vancouver South and Burnaby-Douglas are two of the most hotly contested battlegrounds in this election. The votes can easily swing either way, and nobody can tell how things are going to turn out until the election is all said and done.

-Lik

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-2 05:22

Don't forget to vote, or you will regret

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-5-2 11:20

有分析華溫哥華南
污糟佔些微優勢

作者: 老友四號 時間: 2011-5-2 12:36

回復老友四號

中國現時行的是社會主義?! 你瞓醒未呀?

人均得2000元就富強?! 嘩, 我咪超超超富強!! ...
satil 發表於 2011-5-1 14:58

吓!乜中國唔係實行社會主義咩!?

嗱! 老夫讀得書少,唔好呃我至好呀!!

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2011-5-2 16:53

I am voting for NDP Jack Layton, I am a proletariat with no significant business in Canada, happy to see the economy go down. Happy to see a balance in power, happy to see a different suit running a country...

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-2 17:02

回復 38# Ovaltine

我退休九年, 都無生產了, 只有投資, 原想NDP最適合我, 最好倍增退休金, 但我有子孫, 責任心話我知, 我唔應咁自私.

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2011-5-2 17:14

本帖最後由 Ovaltine 於 2011-5-2 17:16 編輯

回復 Ovaltine

我退休九年, 都無生產了, 只有投資, 原想NDP最適合我, 最好倍增退休金, 但我有子孫, ...
satil 發表於 2011-5-2 17:02

If you really care about the next generations, you should be voting for the Green party. I think most of the older Chinese people are voting for Conservatives due to heavy propaganda played on AM1470 and AM1320, these radio media are a brain-washing entity in our Chinese community. Conservatives paying a lot of money for their political campaign and you know that the money is coming from our own pockets. If your grandson/daughter have good skills and a good head above their shoulders, they could do right even in the midst of turmoil, so no need your help. I think most Chinese are only concerned about economy and the finance part of the country, they rarely pay attention to governmental policies, social justice, social welfare and environmental issue, its really time to care about where the country is going and not just where our finances are going. My number one priority would be to vote for the Green party, but seeing they don't have a chance to come in power, I might as well vote for NDP. I believe in a socialist government, more tax, more spending and more transparency in governing.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-2 17:29

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-2 17:30 編輯

回復老友四號

中國現時行的是社會主義?! 你瞓醒未呀?

人均得2000元就富強?! 嘩, 我咪超超超富強!! ...
satil 發表於 2011-5-1 14:58

hahaha, please update your information. China's per capita in 2010 has reached US$4300, way higher than democratic India's $1200.
At the current rate, China's per capita GDP will reach about $16,000 in about 10 years, to become the largest economy in the world.

We should get ready for this big shift in political and economic power.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-5-2 17:34

If you really care about the next generations, you should be voting for the Green party. I thin ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2011-5-2 17:14

I kinda agree with you.
Tax .. I think it should be reasonable and not too complicated.
and spending, in an accountable way.
Transparency in governing - totally agree.
Green: Of course. I'm proud of our city being green, and be a model for other cities.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-2 19:07

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-2 19:11 編輯

I kinda agree with you.
Tax .. I think it should be reasonable and not too complicated.
and spending, in an accountable way.
Transparency in governing - totally agree.
Green: Of course. I'm proud of our city being green, and be a model for other cities.
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-5-2 17:34

This is not a green city when most of the people commute by driving their cars, producing a lot of pollution and wasting gasoline.

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-2 19:23

beside gasoline, we have a GREEEEEEEEN options?????????

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-2 20:18

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-2 20:21 編輯

Chinese candidate Alice Wong defeated Joe Peschisolido by a wide margin.
Chinese candidate Wai Young defeated Ujjal Dosanjh by a wide margin.

作者: satil 時間: 2011-5-2 20:20

Chinese candidate Wai Young defeated Ujjal dosanjh by a wide margin.
peter236 發表於 2011-5-2 20:18

YEA!!

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-2 20:32

睇見污糟呢個大話精輸咗，我個心都真係涼晒～

-力

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