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作者: IcySugar 時間: 2011-5-28 13:00 標題: Cutco, Usana... 有無聽過...

本帖最後由 IcySugar 於 2011-5-28 13:07 編輯

Cutco, Usana... 有無聽過...
對呢d公司有咩感覺... 哈哈哈

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-28 13:11

回復 1# IcySugar

Cutco wow, you should have heard their brand long time ago...
They produce very durable knife set. At the same time, they are quite expensive, cost you about $1K for a set. I have a pair of scissors that can easily cut penny into half using only 1 hand...

作者: IcySugar 時間: 2011-5-28 13:19

Yes Yes... I hav used cutco scissors n knife be4... HAHA...
I think they r great 2... just expensive... LOL
I m just wondering ppl's feeling towards the company... not the product haha...

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-28 13:34

回復 3# IcySugar

My sister has been working for Cutco long time ago in the summer when she was still in grade 12 (Lowest rate + commission). If it can stand for that many years, history proves...

作者: Prelude 時間: 2011-5-28 14:47

本帖最後由 Prelude 於 2011-5-28 14:52 編輯

Cutco knives is crappy, so crappy that it's funny, and people buy them because of the marketing.
Their steel is the lowest end of the lowest end. If you take a look of the edge of their knives with microscope, you will see it's dull. Their steak knives totally depends the serrated bumps to tear through the steaks instead of real sharpness, which seems work for normal c9, but the meat is just teared apart instead of cutting. Real good knives are strong as in elastic (so they don't chip), and soft as in it can be sharpened to the thinnest edge and still won't break off. Cutco's edge is not even as well, it's just has random angle, and wide angle too. The edge flips from V shape to L shape on first use, then when you try to sharpen it, it flips to the left , it won't stay as V. But you need good eyes to see or feel it with finger. The edge keeps on flipping. So you are actually cutting with the side of the edge instead of the edge. Overall, it doesn't matter to rich c9 or normal newbies, because they don't know what's going on, they only need to feel good about it after they were told it's good stuff. It's "usable", but for this price, you can get the best handcraft knives from the top 10 masters in Japan. Even the highly-hyped http://www.global-knife.com/ knives are better deal than them. Cutco knives are stamped out of machine like toys too.

Company-wise, I don't like Cutco once I found out how cheap the knives are and how much profit they get from it.

作者: Prelude 時間: 2011-5-28 14:53

http://www.cheftalk.com/forum/th ... o-knives#post_98326

Here is some info about it.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-5-28 18:46

miss some old products

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2011-5-29 01:04

Cutco looks impressive, I was "lured" into their presentation. Then I was like.. who the f will buy a set of knife for $1000? Their stuff is still impressive for what it could do. I didn't really care about the quality of the steel, but if it cuts and last.. that would be my only concern.

Usana is just a brand that sells health drugs. I only use their "Essential", which include a bottle of multi-vitamin and Anti-Oxidant. Since I only get sick 3-4 times a year, and I have no big health issues.. I guess it works???

Still.. both of these companies are using pyramid scheme to get people working for them.

Philip

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 04:44

回復 2# lo_pak
Know hundred of people selling Cutco, to me, it is a cheap made utensil and you pay for its marketing expense; As a master chef , I own 200 good pro kitchen knives, but no Cutco.
Any pro cook who use knives everyday would not consider cutco.
Cutting rope with my Sabatier? you must be kidding.
Nothing cut rope better than Olfa, and it is only $5.
I never keep any warranty that come with knives, I know and trust the brands and they never let me down.
Just try to cut a piece of fish for sushi with the most expensive cutco knife and look at it yourself.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 04:49

回復 8# pkphilip

Impressive is only for the marketing trick,
it is not practical for professional at all. I would not recommend to use it for any cutting other than apple and oranges.
Anyone want to give it to me as a gift, I would take 3 Victorinox instead

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-29 09:46

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-5-29 09:48 編輯

回復 9# somewhereintime

Oh I see... I don't have any Cutco knives under than the scissors...
Do you have any good recommendation to knife type and brand for us?? I think that it will be a informative and useful tip for most of our LYK...

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2011-5-29 10:02

The old Zwilling knife.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 11:15

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2011-5-29 11:19 編輯

回復 11# lo_pak

Say, if you have the budget to buy a cutco knife set,
you can buy the knives you will ever need for the rest of your life.
I own 200 chefs quality knives for collection. In real life you do not need
more than 5-7 knives even for professional chefs.I used to rely on the German/Swiss knives in the 60-70's but now I switch
to Japanese chef's knives for the modern technology.
They cost similar to German knives, but very user friendly. Unlike German
knives, they are pre-ground on both sides and hold the edges much better.
Next step, learn how to maintain the edge for safety and sanitation.I would buy Mac, Global and Kasumi (made by Henkel) relative inexpensive compared to high end Japanese,
not to mention Cutco, which has no place in my tool box(or kitchen)

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 11:15

回復 12# MoiRhapsody

Those carbon steel french knives are for collection

作者: Prelude 時間: 2011-5-29 13:14

回復 somewhereintime

Oh I see... I don't have any Cutco knives under than the scissors...
Do you ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-5-29 09:46

If you want a very reasonable price (about 1/3 that of Cutco's) you might want look into the Tramontina Professional Series which is regarded as the best value in the knife industry.

If you have money and want to go fancy, you can go Wusthof Trident Grand Prix or Shun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjAIgkXCoUE&feature=related.
There are tons of good choices, but Cutco is the worst one you can choose.

作者: Prelude 時間: 2011-5-29 13:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HYqeOGz8Lw&NR=1&feature=fvwp

As somewhereintime said, learn how to maintain knives is very important, and know how to sharpen them (which is hard to do it properly). Or find someone who is pro on sharpening them.
The chef at http://www.takifugu.ca/ is pro on sharpening old style knives, he goes on tv about sharpen knives. My brother likes to sharpen knives too, more modern method, his extreme sharpened knives go on ranking in the world, can split one hair into 5 thinner hair.

作者: Prelude 時間: 2011-5-29 13:26

The most important and easy thing to learn about knives is how NOT to ruin them.

1.  No dishwashing machine on knives.
2.  Don't chop things with non-chopping knvies.
3.  Don't cut ropes or cardboards with chef knives, they have sands in them, which is actually de-sharpening the knives as you cut.
4.  Don't hit anything and stored them individually.

A good knives with good sharpening can last long time for household use before sharpening again.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 14:05

My mentor gave me a 10"Wusthof Trident chef knife in 1970, it is still in very good shape,
except for a bit fading on the handle. Good knife is a good investment.
I always sharpen it on 2 pieces of stone, and it serves me very well. Only problem is that
you would need more elbow room using a big knife. And never attempt to cut rope with it

作者: Prelude 時間: 2011-5-29 14:22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssncbR-_9jQ&feature=related

good explanation.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-29 14:25

We have so many 刀客 in the forum...

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 15:03

For homemakers, I would recommend the Martin Yan's 7" Chinese cleaver,
the original one made in Solingen Germany,
Do not buy the cheap one which is made in Shanghai. The Shun makes some nice chinese cleaver, but it cost $184 CDN.
I have 19 Global knives in my knife box, they are very good.
Do buy a knife sheath $3-5 for each good knife to provide protection for both yourself and the knife.
I carry knives with me all the time.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 15:08

good explanation.
Prelude 發表於 2011-5-29 14:22

AB is knowlegeable about food; however, like most lofan,
they do not know how to manouvre knife properly. Asian knives are horned at 15-18 degree, not 20-25 degree angle.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-29 15:24

回復 21# somewhereintime

刀在人在

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 15:28

回復 somewhereintime

刀在人在
lo_pak 發表於 2011-5-29 15:24

10 years ago, I promised to buy myself a good knife for birthday gift,
now I have to live to 100 years old with all the knives I purchased.
Well, I'll give them away before I die.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2011-5-29 15:29

Once I read an article from a " legendary" chef knife sharpener in hk. He said the 70-80s German/french knife use the best steel and he enjoys to sharpen them. Since the new technology kicks in , the quality going downhill.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2011-5-29 15:31

Btw the shun elite series look very nice nice... But don't know about the ability to re sharpen them.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 15:38

The Global knives are easier to maintain and sharpened.
I only sharpen them on stone once a year or so, while
run them on ceramic or diamond steel everytime I use them

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-29 15:39

回復 26# MoiRhapsody

The Kasumi by Henkel looks good too

作者: noa 時間: 2011-7-5 20:17

USANA supplements are quite good, seems like u looking for direct selling business?

作者: IcySugar 時間: 2012-6-10 13:22

Any comment on nuSkin? lol

作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-6-10 19:28

My mentor gave me a 10"Wusthof Trident chef knife in 1970, it is still in very good shape,
except fo ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2011-5-29 14:05

我都係用Wusthof Trident 個D刀架! 不過我個set 就係Grand Prix Series 囉~ 雖然真係唔平, 但lifetime warranty, 乜都抵番啦!

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-6-14 06:45

Its a pyramid scheme, a very successfully run pyramid scheme business.

作者: IcySugar 時間: 2012-6-15 19:41

how successful? lol...

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-6-16 08:46

回復 33# IcySugar

I personally know this family, they used to be dirt poor, now living in 5 million dollar home in South Granville. life is good when you are high up the pyramid ladder.

作者: IcySugar 時間: 2012-6-16 11:10

have frd thinking 2 give up old job n switch 2 this... LOL... is this worth?

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-6-16 12:18

if you want to be snake oil salesman..they are selling vitamins and brand the usana name on them with inflated prices. having said that.. i know the family is doing very well for themselves because of this business.

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