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作者: soli    時間: 2011-6-2 15:03     標題: 換個角度看六四 八九天安門事件解放軍總政治部資料片

本帖最後由 soli 於 2011-6-2 15:04 編輯

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作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2011-6-2 16:02

洗腦video
作者: satil    時間: 2011-6-2 16:40

老共最叻就係老作誇大改歷史, 為自己宣傳, 就二千五百里走難, 變為二萬五千里"長阷", 今天的六四咪一樣.

歷史由掌權者寫, 真相由人民記傳.
作者: satil    時間: 2011-6-2 20:11

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作者: satil    時間: 2011-6-2 20:26

http://www.tiananmenmother.org/
作者: soli    時間: 2011-6-2 20:38

身為平民﹐向手執機槍的軍警施襲﹐不論在那個國家﹐下場大部份也不會很好的。
還有那些被流彈打中的平民﹐ I feel sorry for them.
作者: ricrick    時間: 2011-6-2 20:44

D賤人埋沒良心，死撐都吾知係吾係有獎
作者: satil    時間: 2011-6-2 20:44

看看誰知真相.......

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作者: sheep    時間: 2011-6-2 21:27

你都算曲線屌你個米飯班主喇
YOUTUBE 個個 COMMENT 都屌大陸嘅
作者: CWong    時間: 2011-6-3 00:20

D賤人埋沒良心，死撐都吾知係吾係有獎
ricrick 發表於 2/6/2011 20:44


志在借题发揮，揾啲嘢出嚟拗，滿足自己意慾吧！佢刻意持相反意見，你哋唔同意，越去同佢拗，佢就越过癮，你哋就仲晒計咯！
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2011-6-3 04:50

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2011-6-3 04:51 編輯
看看誰知真相.......
satil 發表於 2011-6-2 20:44



    Who is the guy in black standing on Zhau's  right?
    I bet he knows everything.
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2011-6-3 12:55

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2011-6-3 13:00 編輯

回復 1# soli

If they were really the martyrs ,  the Chinese citizen and the
CCP would  hold memorial service on June 4 every year.

Their name would be written on history  and text book.
Any archive or news  on that????????/
Just cheap propaganda as usual.
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2011-6-3 13:54

志在借题发揮，揾啲嘢出嚟拗，滿足自己意慾吧！佢刻意持相反意見，你哋唔同意，越去同佢拗，佢就越过癮， ...
CWong 發表於 2011-6-3 00:20


天生比人尸口中
作者: kingkong123    時間: 2011-6-3 23:42

本帖最後由 kingkong123 於 2011-6-3 23:43 編輯
身為平民﹐向手執機槍的軍警施襲﹐不論在那個國家﹐下場大部份也不會很好的。
還有那些被流彈打中的平民﹐ ...
soli 發表於 2011-6-2 20:38



   话你没病你真系唔信啊？

事实是军队袭击学生，当时学生正在广场睡觉，你条死产又在歪曲事实

希望下次给坦克碾死的是你的家人，你会觉得很合理，对吧？
作者: fm9610    時間: 2011-6-4 06:29

话你没病你真系唔信啊？

事实是军队袭击学生，当时学生正在广场睡觉，你条死产又在歪曲事实

希望下 ...
kingkong123 發表於 2011-6-3 23:42



Please ask yourself.  Would you sleep there if the troops are coming?  Do you think that they were having fun in outdoor camping?  In a civilized country like Canada, please learn to use your brian instead of dirty words.   Believe it or not, you have been brain washed by China's government.
作者: fm9610    時間: 2011-6-4 06:48

身為平民﹐向手執機槍的軍警施襲﹐不論在那個國家﹐下場大部份也不會很好的。
還有那些被流彈打中的平民﹐ ...
soli 發表於 2011-6-2 20:38


Please use your brian again.  Would you walk around the street in the middle of the nite?  Would you try to find a safe area when you see troops marching in with guns and tanks?  Why would these so called "被流彈打中的平民" choose to walk around that area at that moment?  They were, indeed, asking for something.  Something they longed for - freedom to speech, democracy is the key.        Your statement should read:
身為國家領導者﹐向沒有手執機槍的平民施襲﹐不論在那個國家﹐下場大部份也不會很好的。
還有那些被流彈打中的平民﹐ ...我們給他們崇高的敬意.
我們對那些已經被洗腦的中國人民, ...I feel sorry for them.
作者: fm9610    時間: 2011-6-4 06:59

Please ask yourself.  Would you sleep there if the troops are coming?  Do you think that they wer ...
fm9610 發表於 2011-6-4 06:29


Sorry, kingkong, I just found that I have shoot the wrong guy.  I am on your side.  Just please avoid the bad words.. thx.
作者: kingkong123    時間: 2011-6-4 08:27

回復 17# fm9610


    bad word only toward people with a bad heart and soul

thats a perfect match
作者: fm9610    時間: 2011-6-4 10:14

Using bad words only means your own education level.  It is lucky for one to have chance for high school.  It does not imply any other things.  Unfortunately, people with high eduction could also have bad heart/soul even they could write a very good essay.  People with lower education could have good heart/soul though they don't know how to express themselves.
作者: fm9610    時間: 2011-6-4 10:17

Back to the topic.  I think we can feel good as someone raised this topic and willing to discuss openly.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2011-6-5 00:53

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-6-5 01:18 編輯
Back to the topic.  I think we can feel good as someone raised this topic and willing to discuss ope ...
fm9610 發表於 2011-6-4 10:17


I don't think people here are discussing openly and objectively.

I can understand some people are still very emotional about 6.4 even after 22 years. However, it is also the time that we should be able to discuss and paint the full picture of the event instead of being preoccupied by prejudgements (even though people insist on what they know or believe are the truth and cannot be challenged).

I am do not have much time lately and I would only spend time to discuss with people who deliver meaningful responses.

I don't think the video footages are fake even thought we can be sured they must be edited to fit the messages the Chinese government wanted to deliver.

It is true that the soldiers were very restrained their responses to provocation and attacks until they were given the order to take action to crash down the protests and attacks.

There were many videos showing 暴徒 attacked PLA - burned buses, military vehicles, tanks and killed and burned soldiers before 6.4. KingKong123 should be able to verify this if he was old enough during 6.4.

A local Chinese even took me to the site and pointed to me where the soldiers were killed and their burning bodies were hanged under the street-crossing streets.   

Regardless of how people viewed 6.4, the fact is it did turns into 暴動 and began to spread out in China. There were people died not under the guns of PLA, but the riots.


P.S.  There are many people from BeiJing in Vancouver now. People can talked to them about 6.4. and find out more about it if they really want to know more about it.
作者: sheep    時間: 2011-6-5 08:46

A local Chinese even took me to the site and pointed to me where the soldiers were killed and their burning bodies were hanged under the street-crossing streets.   

Regardless of how people viewed 6.4, the fact is it did turns into 暴動 and began to spread out in China. There were people died not under the guns of PLA, but the riots.


P.S.  There are many people from BeiJing in Vancouver now. People can talked to them about 6.4. and find out more about it if they really want to know more about it.

rockypath 發表於 2011-6-5 00:53


憑咩令你相信佢講嘅野係真實?
可信程度有幾高?
係唔係佢個仔係解放軍
又係被暴徒殺死咗
佢係苦主
所以你信佢
係苦主
點解天安門母親講嘅
你又唔信呢？
作者: sheep    時間: 2011-6-5 08:52

P.S.  There are many people from BeiJing in Vancouver now. People can talked to them about 6.4. and find out more about it if they really want to know more about it.

rockypath 發表於 2011-6-5 00:53


呢個時期
來得加拿大嘅中國人
大部份唔係既得利益者
就係89之後出世
有幾知道呢件事
問
即係問道於盲
作者: rockypath    時間: 2011-6-5 15:29

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-6-5 15:46 編輯
憑咩令你相信佢講嘅野係真實?
可信程度有幾高?
係唔係佢個仔係解放軍
又係被暴徒殺死咗
佢係苦主
所以你 ...
sheep 發表於 2011-6-5 08:46


You don’t need to believe in what I said or other people told me. But you can verify yourself it if you have a true heart to care about 6.4. Would you bother to do so? I would doubt it.

First, KingKong123 should be able to verify what I said if he was old enough during 6.4.

Second, you can do cross-examination by reading other books on 6.4. written by foreign journalists who were in Bejing during that period. I remember the book I read is called “Tiananmen Square”.

Thirds, there are videos on YouTube which you can watch.

Fourth, there are articles on web which you can read.

Fifth, there are people from Beijing around you and you can ask.

P.S.

What I said has nothing to do with Tiananmen Mother and I did not deny what Tianamen Mothers said. Using this kind of tactic trying to challenge me is just plain stupid.

Just prove what I said is not true if that is what you want to say.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2011-6-5 15:31

呢個時期
來得加拿大嘅中國人
大部份唔係既得利益者
就係89之後出世
有幾知道呢件事
問
即係問道於盲 ...
sheep 發表於 2011-6-5 08:52


Will people with this kind of attitude have a true heart to care about the truth of 6.4? I certainly do not think so.



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