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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-29 09:21 標題: 保釣人士表示有權釣魚

明報 6-29-2011

台灣保釣船晚上已從釣魚島返抵宜蘭，保釣人士黃錫麟表示，他們在釣魚島釣魚時受到日方不斷挑釁。

黃錫麟等於昨天晚上搭乘宜蘭頭城籍漁船「大發268號」出海，宣稱前往釣魚島附近海域釣魚，船隻在晚上7時返抵頭城梗枋漁港。

黃錫麟表示，釣魚島附近漁獲量最多，此行他們本來就是要去釣魚，只要有魚的地方他們就去釣，釣魚島本來就是領土，為何不能去釣魚？

「大發268號」今天清晨5時左右在釣魚台外海30浬時，日本巡邏艇就一直在他們旁邊、日方的直升機與偵察機也在上空盤旋，要求他們駛離當時的海域。後來「大發268號」開到釣魚台外海約20浬時，日方再度不斷挑釁，要求退出。

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-6-29 10:38

大家若是有空看看韓寒寫的﹐就知道保釣本身呢個行為好傻。。那個陳XX更是死得很無辜﹐同埋令他家人傷心﹐完全係無必要。。。

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-29 10:44

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-6-29 10:51 編輯

回復 2# 匿名

In other words, does it mean 保釣 is totally 好傻?

陳XX case is obviously an accident...

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-6-29 11:47

據韓寒所言 (其實大家也觀察到) 亞爺都唔太著重呢個所謂主權﹐我們為何要著重呢﹖問題係﹐我地著重也不見得可以取回 (若亞爺唔出手的話)﹐那麼﹐成個保釣事件﹐就只係一場鬧劇﹐一個笑話。。。

情況係﹐若你公司的鄰居佔用了你公司車位﹐但你老闆只眼開只眼閉﹐你響處日日鬧﹐響他門前又大便又塗鴉﹐不見得鄰居從此就不用你的車位﹐不見得有能力搶回﹐因為﹐你不是業主﹐只有你老闆 (假設他是業主) 有權叫他滾開﹐不是嗎﹖

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-6-29 11:48

回復匿名

In other words, does it mean 保釣 is totally 好傻?

陳XX case is obviously an accident. ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-6-29 10:44

我只係唔記得他叫陳咩咩﹐sorry... 並非有心貶低﹐哈哈哈。。。

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-6-29 12:35

據韓寒所言 (其實大家也觀察到) 亞爺都唔太著重呢個所謂主權﹐我們為何要著重呢﹖問題係﹐我地著重也不見得 ...
匿名發表於 2011-6-29 11:47

阿爺唔係唔着重個主權，而係佢響檯底不溜都同日本有 mutual agreement 來唔搞大件事。對阿爺來講，土地主權不溜都唔重要，就算係喪權辱國又點話？只要有so、有水cap、有利益，咁就得啦？你睇江萬歲都成個東北有臺灣咁大嘅地方割讓咗俾俄羅斯就知。

釣魚台最大嘅利益係魚權同油氣田嘅開採權，而阿爺一直其實已經開採緊附近一帶嘅油氣田，所以咪又係有so、有水cap、有利益，其他野就由得佢。

一直都話阿爺賤，只不過係啲人唔 diu 佢之嘛。

-力

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-6-29 13:07

據說﹐亞爺唔係甘希罕那些油呢。。。

不過可能力哥你清楚D﹐算啦﹐我唔鐘意拗﹐反正我亦係唔知﹐我又不是他們肚裡面的虫。。。

所以你不需要回答我了

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-6-29 13:12

話時話﹐我識得一個人﹐同你一樣呢﹐好鐘意話人賤﹐只是問心那句﹐點解時常會覺得別人賤﹖會唔會你副眼鏡有了顏色﹖

檯底的協議﹖能 PO 出來嗎﹖看不見的東西我只當作係別人幻想出來的。。。

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-6-29 13:43

Big 6 no gutsy to send their air carrier against Japan. That's why they are making so much noise in South China Sea and rather face Vietnam and Philippines instead.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-6-29 13:48

據說﹐亞爺唔係甘希罕那些油呢。。。
匿名發表於 2011-6-29 13:07

Given China's energy needs, who would ever believe that?

It doesn't even make any logical sense la...

-Lik

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-6-29 13:50

話時話﹐我識得一個人﹐同你一樣呢﹐好鐘意話人賤﹐只是問心那句﹐點解時常會覺得別人賤﹖會唔會你副眼鏡有 ...
匿名發表於 2011-6-29 13:12

明明係喪權辱國，但把口都要扮寸土必爭。虛偽成咁都唔算賤嘅話，我都唔知道點樣先至算係賤囉。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-29 14:10

Big 6 no gutsy to send their air carrier against Japan. That's why they are making so much noise in ...
blue20ae 發表於 2011-6-29 13:43

China is not dumb like you. If you read Sun Tzi's the Art of War, you will learn that the best strategy is to defeat your enemy without even using force.

China has much smarter strategists than you.

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-6-29 14:12

China is not dumb like you. If you read Sun Tzi's the Art of War, you will learn that the best str ...
peter236 發表於 2011-6-29 14:10

This time I'm with you... 以經濟勝﹐比起軍火更好~

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-29 14:12

明報 6-29-2011

台灣保釣船晚上已從釣魚島返抵宜蘭，保釣人士黃錫麟表示，他們在釣魚島釣魚時受到日方不 ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-6-29 09:21

Taiwan province government needs to take back Diaoyu Islands since they are under the jurisdiction of Taiwan province in ROC.

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-6-29 14:13

明明係喪權辱國，但把口都要扮寸土必爭。虛偽成咁都唔算賤嘅話，我都唔知道點樣先至算係賤囉。

-力 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-6-29 13:50

這只是你的角度﹐中國唔覺得有咩喪權辱國。。。你去得釣魚﹐唔等於個島係你架窩

有無駐軍先﹖

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-6-29 14:17

China is not dumb like you. If you read Sun Tzi's the Art of War, you will learn that the best strategy is to defeat your enemy without even using force....
peter236 發表於 2011-6-29 14:10

oh I see....that's why big 6 send their carrier against Vietnam, test missile against the brothers in Taiwan, but use their "best strategy" of hiding against Japan.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-29 14:19

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-6-29 14:22 編輯

oh I see....that's why big 6 send their carrier against Vietnam, test missile against the brothers ...
blue20ae 發表於 2011-6-29 14:17

hahaha, China's carrier is still under construction. Why do you say they send it to South China sea?

Besides, Japan has defensive agreements with the US. China needs to find a way to keep the US from messing with Diaoyu islands.
If China uses force, the US is going to use an excuse to claim their "China threat theory".

BTW, China has not tested missiles near Taiwan for many years.

Taiwan province government needs to take back Diaoyu Islands since they are under the jurisdiction of Taiwan province in ROC.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-29 16:01

Diaoyu Island, what a sensitive area... Geographically, it should belong to Taiwan. Historically, it should belong to China. But realistically, it belongs to Japan... As I have said earlier in other posts regarding border disputes, fighting with saliva alone without miliatary backups is totally useless... We have to show the confirmation to protect the home land as if the Japs ask for a war, then bring them the war...

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-6-29 19:23

fighting with saliva alone without miliatary backups is totally useless ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-6-29 16:01

Absolutely.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-6-29 19:27

China is not dumb like you. If you read Sun Tzi's the Art of War, you will learn that the best str ...
peter236 發表於 2011-6-29 14:10

There is any article written by American saying the US government is studying 圍棋思想和策略 in order to understand the strategic mind of the Chinese government.

Does it sound interesting?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-29 20:08

回復 20# rockypath

Not really, Go Chess is a very good master mind exercise...

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-6-29 21:30

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-6-29 21:58 編輯

回復 rockypath

Not really, Go Chess is a very good master mind exercise...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-6-29 20:08

The article also talked about the Chess and that is one of the reasons why the US government studies 圍棋. If you want to know more about what the article talked about, you can look it up.

P.S. I believed you misunderstood the word of "strategic mind" which I said in the post #20. It does not refer to the actual mind, but the strategic guiding principles behind the foreign policies and foreign relations (including military) of the Chinese government.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-30 00:05

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-6-30 00:11 編輯

Diaoyu Island, what a sensitive area... Geographically, it should belong to Taiwan. Historically, it ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-6-29 16:01

Diaoyu Island has always been under Taiwan province of the imperial dynasty of China.
Therefore, Taiwan province under ROC, needs to take them back from the Japadogs.

Historically, Taiwan province itself is part of imperial China, so of course Diaoyu islands are parts of China.

The tricky thing is that the US is always messing with others affairs, like Diaoyu Islands, and South China Sea etc. China can easily deal with Vietnam and Philippines if the US stays out of the discussion.

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