溫哥華老友記討論區 - Powered by Discuz! Board

標題: HST 如何影響餐飲業? [打印本頁]

作者: 閒人一個 時間: 2011-7-1 10:47 標題: HST 如何影響餐飲業?

在hst投票前, 有沒有餐飲業人士, 可以清楚提供例子, 在業內hst是如何影響生意呢?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-7-1 11:07

回復 1# 閒人一個

Make sure that doesn't take into account the raw material cost increase and labour cost increase in the discussion. Otherwise it's just meaningless...

作者: 閒人一個 時間: 2011-7-1 11:44

因飲食業講 hst另他們成本上升, 生意難做, 好多將會倒閉.

據我所知, 飲食業整個生產程序中, 以前的pst或現在hst, 基本上與他們沒有太大關係.

所以一定有我0吾明0既地方, 才提出一問.

但如果他們把材料成本及人工上升, 使他們的零售價在過去一年提高0左十幾個%, 0甘0岩又有hst, 這個影響都話入埋hst數. 當然0吾公平.

請指教.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-7-1 11:57

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-1 12:09 編輯

回復 3# 閒人一個

HST got more to do on the revenue (customer) side because general public don't dine out that much after HST...

For example, on a $100 set dinner for 4,

1) in the old days: $100 + $5 (5% PST) + $10.5 (Tips, people 'used to' pay 10% tips for the lumpsum after PST) = $115.50

2) nowadays: $100 + $12 (12% HST) + $10.0 (Tips, people pay 10% tips for the net amount before tax) = $122.00

Net result: Government gets $7 from the meal, but to the server, $0.50 less tips. For customers, $6.50 more anyway -> decrease frequency/incentive dining out...

P.S. - for case 2, some customers will choose to pay: $100 + $12 (12% HST) + $3.50 (Tips - only 3.5% tips before tax!!) = $115.50... which is retarded...

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-7-1 16:54

The HST is just one of the factors that hit the restaurant industry. To me at least, the sum of the multiple hits (higher prices of raw materials, min wage increase, recession, increased enforcement against drunk driving, HST, etc.) were greater than each of the individual factors themselves on the industry.

-Lik

作者: soli 時間: 2011-7-1 17:12

for case 2, some customers will choose to pay: $100 + $12 (12% HST) + $3.50 (Tips - only 3.5% tips before tax!!) = $115.50... which is retarded...

很多做餐廳的人士收到現金小費卻不納稅﹐在餐飲業界未正視並解決這問題前﹐我很認同這行為~

作者: 閒人一個 時間: 2011-7-1 19:16

本帖最後由閒人一個於 2011-7-1 19:18 編輯

0甘睇0黎, 基本上hst對飲食業上的沖擊只是小小火上加油. 單單材料成本, 人工都使飲食業十分難做 (我知部份原材料加了20-30%價), 非加價不可. 相比之下hst只是一個細因素.

不過, 今晚出街, 去一間約十二張大大細細枱的中餐, 六時到, 己全場滿, 大部份已食了一半, 我有定枱, 有位. 除後, 六時半, 大部份枱已可番一次, 店門還有等位, 部長亦不接定枱了. 想, 他們都應用三輪. 未加大量外賣. 生意十分不錯. (酒水真的少了).

我信那些好的餐館, 應沒有大問題, 他們加價亦不見得少了客, 反觀一些品質差的, 真係無客. 這正好表明, 好口碑, 應沒有問題. 一年了, 早已習慣了hst, 對我影響不多, 沒有減少出外食飯次數, 買車已為我省回很多.

最不滿一些食店, 又加價, 又減份量, 口口聲聲用hst為藉口 ! 收了現金, 又不報稅.

作者: fm9610 時間: 2011-7-1 21:33

本帖最後由 fm9610 於 2011-7-1 21:34 編輯

回復閒人一個

HST got more to do on the revenue (customer) side because general public don't dine ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-1 11:57

If you need to eat out, then you have to eat out. For me, there is really no difference in my frequency of eating out, before or after the HST. Compared to HK or other places, I think Canada has been shielded from a lot of raises in raw material like flour, sugar, rice, etc. from our high exchange rate already.

作者: blueberry 時間: 2011-7-1 22:02

最不滿一些食店, 又加價, 又減份量, 口口聲聲用hst為藉口 ! 收了現金, 又不報稅.閒人一個發表於 2011-7-1 19:16

我以前常光顧的某家 bubble tea 店, 在 hst 生效前顯示的價錢是含稅的. 但 hst 生效之後, 再加上原材料成本增加, 它加價之餘還要改為不含稅, 變成幾乎貴了 1 元! 而且因為它是 cash only, 所以總是覺得它會報少營業額從而可以交少些稅的感覺(雖然我知道使用 debit/credit card machine的話店家也要付手續費之類給銀行) 自此以後我也不再光顧了.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2011-7-2 06:57

CTV interviewed the owner of DeDutch and he said, he'd rather keep the HST 'cause it is too costly to change back to PST/GST once again.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-7-2 07:25

The provincial government should give us more incentive,
since they save a bundle administrating the PST, on top of
the tax portion which was not there before

作者: soli 時間: 2011-7-2 09:41

唔知上面個位廚師先生以前做餐廳時收到小費後﹐有無報足稅呢?

作者: tsawwassen 時間: 2011-7-3 17:00

I think some restaurants just earned 7% more. because they always reported less income than the actual receipts.

歡迎光臨溫哥華老友記討論區 (http://loyaukee.com/forum/)