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作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-5 11:49     標題: 網路盛傳：江澤民病危

全國領導人回京開會，『消息』明早開會後應該會公布。

又睇吓有咩事發生啦。

-力
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-5 12:48

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2011-7-5 12:50 編輯

http://news.on.cc/cnt/china/2011 ... 0706_00922_001.html

博訊指江澤民心肌梗塞垂危
[03:30] 2011/07/06

缺席上周五中共建黨九十周年紀念活動的前國家主席江澤民，身體健康備受外界關注。境外媒體博訊網昨日引述北京消息人士報道，江澤民約一個月前大面積心肌梗塞，目前靠呼吸機維持生命，其所入住的北京解放軍總醫院(301醫院)外戒備森嚴，曾經有大批疑似政要趕往探病，惟消息未獲北京當局證實。



變咗敏感詞喇～唔知呢個 post 會唔會變成洩露國家基密呢？

-力
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2011-7-5 17:46

無論你係一個平民, 一個偉人, 一個領導人, 始終離唔開生老病死.
希望老人家唔好咁辛苦就好了.
作者: kingkong123    時間: 2011-7-5 22:55

有甘的好事？ 天有眼囖， 唔应该死得甘易，应该插管慢慢来
作者: chunsh    時間: 2011-7-5 23:15

有甘的好事？ 天有眼囖， 唔应该死得甘易，应该插管慢慢来
kingkong123 發表於 2011-7-5 22:55


what has he done to u
作者: kingkong123    時間: 2011-7-6 00:05

本帖最後由 kingkong123 於 2011-7-6 00:06 編輯

回復 5# chunsh


instead asking what he has done to me, you should ask what he has done to Chinese people
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-6 00:42

有報紙／網站話佢心肌梗塞，個心嘅功能已經無咗；又有啲話佢肝癌，但點都好，唔同報導都係話佢用緊儀器來吊命。

其實我真係唔明，點解老共餐餐都要搞埋咁多花臣？人老，就自然會死㗎啦？你估佢叫做江萬歲就真係可以有一萬歲咩？人死咗，咁又如何？特別係江萬歲呢啲老野，死人就預咗㗎啦？又有乜需要整式整水、變晒敏感詞？

真係無野搵野來做...

-力
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-6 09:25

[youtube]Y3LoFASzeYM[/youtube]

但阿爺果邊都好似係咩反應都無：無證實，但亦無否認。不過照咁睇來，都係走唔甩㗎喇。

-力
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 09:27

回復 8# Lik

No idea, seems like it's just a rumor so far...
作者: sheep    時間: 2011-7-6 09:36

http://www.hkreporter.com/talks/viewthread.php?tid=1219064
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-6 09:40

但呢度我要補充一下亞視講漏咗嘅野：

江萬歲嘅豐功偉績更包括：

1）割讓百幾萬平方公里俾俄羅斯，實際體驗割地賣國、傷害中國人民感情之恥
2）典型上海佬性格 -- 好大喜功：搞三峽工程、追08京奧等各樣勞民傷財嘅超大型面子工程
3）老氣橫秋，以老賣老，但為人又 too simple, sometimes naive

[youtube]S01eyYGkKdo[/youtube]

-力
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 09:50

回復 11# Lik

Hei, any typos? "百幾萬平方公里" = 1000km x 1000km...
作者: yokult    時間: 2011-7-6 10:07

How old is he? If he is over 70, it should be "laugh pass way"
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 10:08

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-6 10:29 編輯

回復 13# yokult

That's the old standard... I think nowadays it should be about 80-85...

In the old days, it takes about 15-20 years for 1 generation. So by the age of 70, one can almost have grand grand kid or even grand grand grand kid...

Nowadays, I can't laugh if someone passed away when s/he is only 70...
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-6 10:12

江萬歲割地賠俾俄羅斯，個數字係幾多，我真係唔記得。但我知道割讓地面積大過成個臺灣。

係咪國恥、係咪傷害中國人民感情，你話俾我聽啦。

-力
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 10:31

回復 15# Lik

I don't think it's that big...

But anyway, I won't support any homeland trade offs on whatsoever reasons...
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 10:46

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-6 10:55 編輯
追08京奧等各樣勞民傷財嘅超大型面子工程


If 2008 Summer Olympic Games is 面子工程, then 2010 Winter Olympic Games is also 面子工程
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 10:49

江萬歲割地賠俾俄羅斯，個數字係幾多，我真係唔記得。但我知道割讓地面積大過成個臺灣。

係咪國恥、係咪傷 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-6 10:12

If you don't have the data then just STFU la.
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 11:20

回復 18# peter236

There are some background behind the sino-russian border issue...

I can't say if Lik is wrong, and I can't say whether Lik is correct either... But one thing for sure, the area in dispute is not as big as Taiwan...
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 11:25

回復 17# peter236

If you can provide the "real" balance sheet for these 2 events, we can judge if they are 面子工程... Data won't lie, bias do lie on how people interpret the data...
作者: ricrick    時間: 2011-7-6 11:55

sheep 發表於 2011-7-6 09:36http://www.hkreporter.com/talks/viewthread.php?tid=1219064



    d網友好開心wor
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 12:14

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-6 12:18 編輯
回復  peter236

If you can provide the "real" balance sheet for these 2 events, we can judge if the ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-6 11:25


It has nothing to do with balance sheet. It is all about the concept of the Olympics Games which many countries are competing fiercely to be the host every time.
If it is 面子工程, then every Olympics is 面子工程, regardless of which country is hosting.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-6 12:28

仆街，

史上又有邊個國家會好似大陸咁豪洗幾千萬億來搞個奧運會？淨係你個開幕式都已經係歷盡奢華啦？我都未計你個鳥巢屎塔、水立方呢啲用完即棄嘅徙錢、cap水工程添喇...

係你咁賤格先至講都出呢啲咁無恥嘅說話。

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 12:29

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-6 12:33 編輯
仆街，

史上又有邊個國家會好似大陸咁豪洗幾千萬億來搞個奧運會？淨係你個開幕式都已經係歷盡奢華啦？我都 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-6 12:28


You stinky mouth Mr Lik,
You are wrong. Every Olympics needs a main stadium for athletics and soccer, and swimming pool for swimming events.

Most of the investments of Beijing Olympics are in basic infrastructures, which are needed with or without Olympics.
For example, expansion of subways, highways, and new facilities at Beijing airport, which is second busiest in the world.
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 12:37

回復 23# Lik

That's quite true, the maintenance fees for those utilities are quite high... Our Oval at Richmond got the same problem...
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 12:40

回復  Lik

That's quite true, the maintenance fees for those utilities are quite high... Our Oval ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-6 12:37


The Vancouver Olympics village is still a financial loss. Also, there are quality issues.
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 12:45

回復 24# peter236

Somehow, don't you think those utilities are too grand and oversize? I don't expect those utilities can earn a big profit, but at least, that should at least keep the expenses balance out the maintenance costs. Otherwise they can only be giant white elephants....
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 12:48

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-6 12:51 編輯

回復 26# peter236

You point that out, it's true... It's the taxpayer dollar money coming out from the pocket of general public... So, be realistic, Beijing Olympics is obviously a face project...
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 13:59

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-6 14:02 編輯
回復  peter236

Somehow, don't you think those utilities are too grand and oversize? I don't expect ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-6 12:45


Those facilities need to meet Olympics standards. For example, the number of track lanes, the number of seats for spectators etc.

Every Olympics needs a main stadium for athletics and soccer, and swimming pool for swimming events.

Most of the investments of Beijing Olympics are in basic infrastructures, which are needed with or without Olympics.
For example, expansion of subways, highways, and new facilities at Beijing airport, which is second busiest in the world. The subways and highways in or near Beijing are always packed with users.
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 14:03

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-6 14:13 編輯

回復 29# peter236

Olympics standard has never requested a Mercedes AMG when you need only a Camry basic model...
作者: blue20ae    時間: 2011-7-6 14:10

If 2008 Summer Olympic Games is 面子工程, then 2010 Winter Olympic Games is also 面子工程 ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-6 10:46



You are absolutely right this time.  Vancouver Olympic is an initiative to promote Vancouver tourism and is a business opportunity.

"PricewaterhouseCoopers' study estimated a total contribution to the BC economy of $2.5 billion of Gross Domestic Product, and as well created 45,000 jobs and contributed an additional $463 million to the tourism industry while venue construction by VANOC and 3rd parties added $1.22 billion to the economy."
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 14:20

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-6 14:24 編輯
回復  peter236

Olympics standard has never requested a Mercedes AMG when you need only a Camry  ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-6 14:03

You analogy is wrong. They didn't use a Mercedes AMG.

What makes you think they used a "Mercedes AMG"?
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-6 14:21

師兄，面子工程同 marketing / promotion 有好大分別喎？一個係打腫塊面充胖子，另一個係做好個 image 來 sell 自己。

我地都係講返江萬歲啦：

http://news.mingpao.com/20110707/gaa1.htm
江澤民生死 全國懸念
亞視兩報「死訊」 官方未否認未有公布

【明報專訊】前國家主席江澤民病重消息瘋傳了好幾天，引起海內外關注，近日新浪微博甚至「封鎖」了江澤民相關字眼，觸動了各界神經，本港政圈人物亦想方設法打探消息，直至昨晚黃昏，亞洲電視台新聞報道突然引述北京消息指「江澤民病逝」，然而截至本報截稿前，官方仍未有任何相關公布，亦未有斷然否認有關消息，江澤民的生死，成為了全國關注的懸念。

亞洲電視台昨日黃昏突然報道「江澤民逝世」消息，並播放其生平，其後台徽更由彩色變成灰色，中共政治局有常委繼續在外國和國內各地考察或訪問，北京301醫院和上海華東醫院門外昨日未見異常。

亞視昨晚6時35分在新聞節目尾段突播出「本台消息」，引述該台從北京獲悉，指江澤民病逝，享年84歲，但昨晚7時北京中央電視台的《新聞聯播》並無報道有關消息，官方新華網首頁仍見慶祝中共建黨90周年的橫幅，並採用紅色作背景，未見異樣。

江專輯突抽起 亞視未解釋

至於亞視這邊廂，隨後一直以滾動字幕播出「江澤民死訊」，至晚上7時50分，甚至將彩色台徽改成灰色，但原定宣布於9時半播出的江澤民特備節目，卻於晚上9時許突然宣布抽起，並無交代原因。能夠接收到亞視的廣東省有線電視網絡，則屏蔽了相關報道，以藍色方塊遮蓋亞視的滾動字幕。

到了晚上10時半，亞視的最後新聞時段先以人民銀行加息作為頭條新聞，第二條才報道江的「死訊」，主播並特別表示中央未公布有關消息。新聞報道期間，轉為灰色逾4小時的台徽又變回原色。雖然亞視在黃昏晚間新聞接近完結時才報道「死訊」，但據了解亞視新聞部其實昨早已收到消息，本報記者昨日嘗試聯絡亞視新聞部總監梁家榮及副總監譚衛兒，查詢為何抽起特備節目，至截稿前未收到回覆。

本報記者昨前往北京301醫院（解放軍總醫院），門口所見並無異樣，兩名武警持槍在高幹病房門口站崗，記者拍照時遭制止。在傍晚6時，5分鐘內有10多輛高官專用的奧迪（Audi）A6陸續從院內開出。江澤民在1992年7月7日曾為301醫院題字「建設第一流的解放軍總醫院，為提高部隊戰鬥力服務」，往年他生病亦多在301醫院接受治療，而之前曾有傳言稱他入住上海華東醫院，該醫院昨日亦無異樣。

傳腦幹死亡未拔喉

昨日多維、博訊等總部在美國的新聞網站都發文稱「江澤民健康很好」，分別自稱收到「北京權威人士」闢謠消息，指江確在4月大病一場，但已經轉為穩定，現正在調養中。也有消息指江澤民已腦幹死亡，但仍未拔喉，不過消息未能得到證實。

中央高官昨日如常活動，總理溫家寶主持國務院會議，國家副主席習近平會見歐洲社會黨主席，中紀委書記賀國強繼續在波蘭訪問行程。副總理李克強、中央政法委書記周永康則在近日分別到安徽、上海考察。

北京理工大學教授胡星斗說，網上關於領導人健康的傳言很多，一方面是因中國權力並非法定，即使不在位的人物依然可對政治造成影響；另一方面是中國信息不透明，制止謠言傳播的最好方式是公開真相，「放在陽光下，黑暗自然沒有了」。

有乜野唔可以拎出來講？係死咗咪死咗，係吊緊命咪吊緊命囉。又有幾大不了？

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 14:22

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-6 14:26 編輯
師兄，面子工程同 marketing / promotion 有好大分別喎？一個係打腫塊面充胖子，另一個係做好個 image 來 s ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-6 14:21


Just cut your crap about 面子工程.
You are just using a bigoted double standard here.

It is Canada that is 打腫塊面充胖子, as all levels of government have big debt.
Vancouver city finances is still in trouble. Vancouver Olympics village is still in trouble.
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 14:31

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-7-6 14:59 編輯

回復 33# Lik

Back to 江澤民, if the rumor is fake, hope he can live healthily; if the rumor is right, RIP... To me, the news is really as IMO he's not as controverial than other leaders...

He's not like 李鹏, whom is a true GDSOTB that I will DXXN him to the bottom of the Hell...
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-6 20:58

唔係話我黑心，但空穴來風必有因，而且從中央一直都無出來否認過來睇，老江真係唔掂㗎喇。

都成八十幾歲，又搞過咁多件女（宋祖英、李瑞英等等），仲想點嗟？

-力
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-7-6 21:03

回復 36# Lik

新華社：江逝世消息屬謠言

明報


本港及日本傳媒報道中國前國家主席江澤民「死訊」，新華社指，江澤民逝世消息「純屬謠言」。

彭博引述新華社稱，權威人士指，前國家主席江澤民逝世消息「純屬謠言」。

日本新聞網報道，中國前國家主席江澤民昨晚在北京中國人民解放軍301醫院病逝。

在本月1日的中共建黨90周年的慶祝會上，除中共現任九常委外，第三代領導人包括人大前委員長李鵬、全國政協前主席李瑞環和前總理朱鎔基等都有露面，但江澤民前主席卻未有出現，當時已有人對江澤民前主席的健康問題作出猜測。

目前，中國官方尚未對江澤民前主席的病情作出證實。
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-6 21:32

都成八十幾歲，又搞過咁多件女（宋祖英、李瑞英等等），仲想點嗟？
Lik 發表於 2011-7-6 20:58


How do you know that? Do you have any proof? They can sue you for defamation.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-7 00:59

回復  Lik

新華社：江逝世消息屬謠言

本港及日本傳媒報道中國前國家主席江澤民「死訊」，新華社 ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-7-6 21:03

果陣老鄧死之前，唔記得係新華社定中宣部咪又係咁樣走出來話死訊係謠言。佢裡面自己拆掂咗，到時就會公報㗎喇。

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-7 11:21

果陣老鄧死之前，唔記得係新華社定中宣部咪又係咁樣走出來話死訊係謠言。佢裡面自己拆掂咗，到時就會公報 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-7 00:59

You should stop spreading lies, they can sue you for that.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-7-7 11:28

You should stop spreading lies, they can sue you for that.
peter236 發表於 2011-7-7 11:21

Diu你，去仆街死啦～中宣部同外交部都係國營大話機器。擘大眼講大話嘅事佢地做得少？

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-7-7 11:30

Diu你，去仆街死啦～中宣部同外交部都係國營大話機器。擘大眼講大話嘅事佢地做得少？

-力 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-7-7 11:28

Your dirty mouth shows itself again.



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