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作者: raffaello 時間: 2011-7-30 09:05 標題: 智能手機王位諾基亞讓蘋果

智能手機王位諾基亞讓蘋果

【經濟日報專訊】「手機王國」諾基亞（Nokia）的王朝宣布沒落，稱霸智能手機市場連續15年後，終要讓出一哥地位，連第二位置都未能保住，第二季銷量被蘋果（Apple）及三星（Samsung）雙雙超越，市場佔有率更跌至15.2%。
自1996年推出Communicator智能手機以來，諾基亞一直為市場龍頭，更在2004年率先推出輕觸式科技，鎖定王者地位。
不過，隨着蘋果iPhone的橫空出世，加上以Google操作平台Android的智能手機陸續面世，諾基亞的地位備受動搖。

中印威脅傳統手機也勢危

諾基亞第二季售出1,670萬部智能手機，較第一季大跌31%。相反，蘋果同期售出破紀錄的2,030萬部iPhone，而三星受惠於市場對Android手機的需求，估計售出1,900萬部智能手機，兩者分別佔市場銷售額18.5%及17.5%，諾基亞只以15.2%排名第三位。
市場調查公司Strategy Analytics估計，上季全球智能手機銷量按年增長76%，就算是較保守的分析，亦指增長達62%；但經過連續多季的高速增長，智能手機市場增長有放緩之勢。

除了智能手機市場失利，諾基亞於傳統手機的銷售亦受到威脅。上季傳統手機的銷量按年下跌4%，為7個季度以來首次下跌，情況於美日等成熟市場更明顯，主因低成本的傳統手機製造商如印度Micromax、中國TCL-Alcatel及華為，正步步進逼諾基亞等大廠。

PC需求減三星純利季挫18%

上季全球手機總銷量增長放緩至11.3%，售出約3.65億部；諾基亞仍是全球最大手機製造商，但銷量下跌兩成，市佔率跌至24.2%，與第二位、市佔率19.2%的三星距離收窄，有分析估計，三星或於明年迎頭趕上。

手機銷售強勁亦成三星業績火車頭，市場估計上季賣出合共7,400萬部（三星本身未有公布具體銷售數字），特別是新推出的智能手機Galaxy S II，自4月底面世以來，銷量已衝破500萬大關。

不過，受平面屏幕、晶片、電視及電腦的疲弱需求拖累，三星第二季純利按年倒退18%至約33億美元。三星預期第三季將出現反彈，但受歐美經濟影響，料反彈幅度有限。

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-7-30 09:19

怪唔得Rogers 賣NOKIA手機
上台係零機價
重係最新款添

作者: masterbear 時間: 2011-7-30 10:35

Can get Nokia free ph. over 7 tim... so cheap... haha

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2011-7-30 10:43

諾基亞 .. hear the name .. already dont want to buy it la..

Well .. Apple .. just one phone .. vs Nokia/Samsung etc .. tons of diff model ..

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-7-30 10:43

真係無計，成也symbian，敗也symbian
再者，3年前的nokia (如N95) 已有齊iphone4的工能，少的touch screen
但e+消費者吾睇工能，講求易用及包裝
真係有D反智，apple比咩屎，d人都爭住食

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-7-30 10:49

怪唔得Rogers 賣NOKIA手機
上台係零機價
重係最新款添
sheep 發表於 2011-7-30 09:19

x7吾錯，如果行android，我都會買，可惜不是

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-7-30 12:04

it is not about just the phone. What distinguish apple from other smart phone (except andriod) is all about the Apps. of course, deisgn is important too.

作者: masterbear 時間: 2011-7-30 15:15

Market Prediction Nokia will keep on shrinking to close down within couple yrs if there's no improvement ..... Just like BB from RIM.... will be in deep trouble! PALM was a good example

作者: rockypath 時間: 2011-7-30 16:37

Don't by the stocks of RIM and Nokia unless they get another Steve Jobs on board like Apple did years back.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-7-30 17:34

I'm using N8 now and quite like it. The camera is awesome.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-7-30 19:26

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-30 19:32 編輯

Apple has enough cash to buy Nokia, RIM and Motorola mobility.
In a few years, only the Chinese phones from Huawei, ZTE and TCL will be able to compete with phones from Samsung and HTC.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-7-30 20:09

Why Apple will buy the companies not profiting and going downward?

Chinese phones cannot compete with Samsung or HTC. Just one thing, Chinese companies are hardly to compete in high tech industry: IP.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-7-30 21:07

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-30 21:24 編輯

Why Apple will buy the companies not profiting and going downward?

Chinese phones cannot compete wi ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-7-30 20:09

Apple is not buying any of them, but Apple has the cash to buy all of Nokia, RIM and Motorola mobility.
This shows how strong Apple is.

Chinese technology companies are getting strong and stronger. Lenovo has the second largest computer market share in the world.
Huawei and ZTE are already among the world's leaders in telecommunicaton equipment market.
Huawei's move into networking equipment is taking market share away from Cisco. This partly explains why Cisco profits is shrinking.

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2011-7-31 01:31

Apple is not buying any of them, but Apple has the cash to buy all of Nokia, RIM and Motorola mobi ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-30 21:07

so u have a lot of lenovo, huawei, ZTE at home?

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-7-31 03:00

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-31 03:27 編輯

so u have a lot of lenovo, huawei, ZTE at home?
嘉嘉發表於 2011-7-31 01:31

Huawei and ZTE are already among the world's leaders in telecommunication equipment market. Every time you make a cell phone call to anywhere locally or elsewhere in the world, there is a good chance your call is going through Huawei's equipment.

作者: randommike 時間: 2011-7-31 09:25

Apple's success is with the way to distribute the apps (iTunes store)
There are apps for Nokia's Symbian OS too, even back in 2005 but only tech-savvy people were able to find/install them. Apple just made things easier to the mass consumers.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-7-31 14:15

Apple is not buying any of them, but Apple has the cash to buy all of Nokia, RIM and Motorola mobi ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-30 21:07

That's the main difference between Chinese and Western.
Western companies will buy other companies if they have potential to profit, not because of the face. Because the management has to provide the best return for investors.

Chinese companies, sometimes, are not playing the same rules. They buy companies not just because of business reason. U know what I mean.

So, I bet you Apple will not buy them. and U think of Steve Jobs, why he has to buy them? Smart Axx.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-7-31 14:17

Apple's success is with the way to distribute the apps (iTunes store)
There are apps for Nokia's Sym ...
randommike 發表於 2011-7-31 09:25

Yes.. Innovation, creativity, and clean design is the success of Apple.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-7-31 14:22

Apple is not buying any of them, but Apple has the cash to buy all of Nokia, RIM and Motorola mobi ...
peter236 發表於 2011-7-30 21:07

And what you said about Lenovo and Huawei, ZTE,, I totally admit they have large market share.
But, you have to look at what has happened:
Lenovo - It was IBM laptop and it was sold to CHinese company.. Why? Because IBM decided that the profit margin of personal computer and laptop will become so small that didn't worth the company's focus. Thus, IBM focuses on MainFrame super computers and software services. In recent years, IBM recorded huge profit because they made the right decision. If they kept the laptop market, I don't think they can do it. Also, now, laptop market is gonna replaced by tablet. So... second largest computer market share in a shrinking market means nothing.

Hauwei & ZTE are hardware. That's totally reflect what China is--- Good at manufacture (hardware) but lack of idea & innovation (software).

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-7-31 15:20

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-31 15:41 編輯

And what you said about Lenovo and Huawei, ZTE,, I totally admit they have large market share.
Bu ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-7-31 14:22

Lenovo also has its own tablet computer. All the other computer makers like HP, Dell and Acer, Fujitsu are also facing the same threat from Apple iPad. Therefore, it is surprising that you bashed only Lenovo.
But Lenovo is taking the market share away from HP, Dell and Acer rapidly, with Lenovo becoming the leader in enterprise PC sales.
The Apple iPad is not going to replace the laptop and the PC, for obvious reasons.

Apple's iPad is the market leader now, and the iPad is even taking market share away from its own Apple MacBook laptops and Mac computer. But most people who buy iPad, also still buy laptops.

China is also capable of making some of the world's fastest mainframe and supercomputers, like the Tianhe series and the Dawning supercomputer, using its own Chinese Loongson CPU.

Besides China, other Asian competitors like Japan, Korea and Taiwan, they are good at manufacture (hardware) but not as good yet in software.
Right now, no companies from Japan, Korea or Taiwan can compete with Huawei and ZTE. This shows lack of innovation from Canada, Japan and Korea. They just cannot compete with innovative products from China's Huawei and ZTE.
Even American Cisco and Juniper Networks are losing market share to Huawei and ZTE. This is partly the reason why Cisco and Juniper's profits are shrinking.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-7-31 15:37

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-7-31 15:49 編輯

That's the main difference between Chinese and Western.
Western companies will buy other companie ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-7-31 14:15

Based on what I read elsewhere, I mentioned that Apple has the cash to buy Nokia, RIM, and Motorola just to show Apple is so much stronger than Nokia, RIM and Motorola.

I never intended to mean Apple will buy any of them.
I don't understand why you would interpret it that way.

Apple Could Buy Nokia, RIM, HTC, Motorola in Cash

http://www.techreaders.com/2011/06/apple-could-buy-nokia-rim-htc-motorola-in-cash/

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2011-8-1 12:57

And what you said about Lenovo and Huawei, ZTE,, I totally admit they have large market share.
Bu ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-7-31 14:22

IBM stopped their PC business because without manufacturing capability themselves, they just can't achieve a good margin. It's better to let Lenovo do it all. Just refocusing their business. Mainframe and Consulting/Business services that IBM still has, and the PC/Laptop business that Lenovo has are both businesses in enviable positions.

Huawei and ZTE are not manufacturers like Foxconn. Don't mix them up. Our company sell to them and growth in their account year over year is great.

That said, designs for consumer space products from China still have a lot more to be desired. In spaces where usabilty, packaging and marketing rules, Chinese companies still have a lot to learn. Hopefully someone will soon emerge and be able to compete in these spaces intenationally.

作者: martintin 時間: 2011-8-14 22:55

小弟仲用緊nokia~~~

到而家都唔覺得需要再smart D
所以仲未需要smartphone  增值智慧

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