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作者: Lik 時間: 2011-8-21 11:11 標題: 醜陋的香港人：反對外傭居港權

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外傭條例根本就係從人權嘅層面去歧視外傭。所有從外國來港工作嘅人，只要合乎條件嘅話（除咗住滿7年之外，當中仲包括另外4個條件，而其中一個就係要全個 immediate family都響香港居住滿7年），都可以享用申請香港永久居民身份，但外傭就被剝奪呢個權利，試問咁樣唔係種族歧視仲係乜野？點解人地響香港做野就可以申請居港權，但外傭做同一樣野就唔得？！

其實要meet到呢個 requirement嘅外傭，根本係得好少，而當中會去申請香港永久居民身份嘅，從客觀條件來睇就更加少。但偏偏反對外傭居港權嘅人當中就不乏自己本來亦都係從大陸移居落來香港嘅人（片裡面講野嘅一位阿叔好明顯就係呢隻）。再講遠啲，上一兩代嘅香港人，有幾多人唔係當年從大陸走難落來香港，又或者從大陸落香港搵機會？總之，自己以前做同一件事就得，今日人地啲外傭做返相同嘅一件事就唔得！你呢個係乜野心態呀？唔係歧視係乜野？！

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 13:59

The Filipinos should be sent back to their town. These people knew they will never become HK citizens when they first went to HK.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-8-21 15:31

回復 2# peter236

Canada should send you back first.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 17:35

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-8-21 17:39 編輯

回復 peter236

Canada should send you back first.
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-8-21 15:31

The Filipinos knew about this when they first went to HK. It is clear in their contract. When their contract is up, they should go home.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-8-21 18:30

The Filipinos knew about this when they first went to HK. It is clear in their contract. When their ...
peter236 發表於 2011-8-21 17:35

仆街，

當年中國簽不平等條約嘅時候夠知道啲條約不平等啦，咁點解我又唔見你話中國應該尊重合約精神？！

你條撚樣連基本人權都唔尊重，仲出來學咩人講乜野反對外傭居港權呀？

-力

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-8-21 18:36

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-8-21 18:39 編輯

回復 5# Lik

Peter always type faster than he can think...

BTW, you have made a good point here... The contract itself is contradict to human rights... So when it brings to the court, it's highly likely the HK government is going to lose....

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 19:16

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-8-21 19:26 編輯

仆街，

當年中國簽不平等條約嘅時候夠知道啲條約不平等啦，咁點解我又唔見你話中國應該尊重合約精神？！
...
Lik 發表於 2011-8-21 18:30

First, the Ching dynasty-England treaty was a different thing.
Second, both sides honoured the treaty, and Hong Kong was returned in 1997.

So China did honour the treaty, and they didn't take back Hong Kong earlier than 1997. You talked like they didn't honour the treaty. Again, we can see your stupid lies and distortion here.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 19:18

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-8-21 19:21 編輯

回復 Lik

Peter always type faster than he can think...

BTW, you have made a good point here... T ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-8-21 18:36

So are you saying when British Hong Kong made the contracts with the Filipinos, the British government contradicted human rights?

wow, We all thought the British are democratic and honor human rights. How come British Hong Kong made such contracts with the Filipinos?

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-8-21 19:31

回復 peter236

Canada should send you back first.
rainbow-davie 發表於 2011-8-21 15:31

ha ha good one

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2011-8-21 19:32

The Filipinos should be sent back to their town. These people knew they will never become HK citizens when they first went to HK.
peter236 發表於 2011-8-21 13:59

This is exactly what the old Canadian Government said to the Chinese railroad workers.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-8-21 19:37

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-8-21 19:44 編輯

回復 8# peter236

If something not right, no matter in what time frame, someone has to fix it... It's by the contract itself, again, I don't want you to get laughed at (make fun is okay, but should be in a mutual respect way...)

Right now, be practical, it should be time to think of a solution...

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-21 19:43

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作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 19:44

回復 peter236

If something not right, no matter in what time frame, someone has to fix it... It's ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-8-21 19:37

I don't want people laugh at you. It all depends on how this case is settled. But we already know it is not you who is going make the decision.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 19:48

As anybody that travelled to US will know:

The entry into US via any kind of visas, whether for immigration
purpose or NOT, is a PRIVILEGE !!

There is no fairness involved in the process as the right to enter
a country/area is granted at the SOLE DISCRETION of the immigration
officer.

I don't see why HK has a problem to reject Filipinos as they
knew beforehand that their work visas are not transferable to
immigration visa. Just like Canadians holding TN-1 visa to
work in US will not be able to applied for green card.

Again, why is this a big fuss again ?
fy789 發表於 2011-8-21 19:43

You are right. If the Filipinos wants to apply for Hong Kong citizenship, that already contradicts with their original intention of staying in Hong Kong, which is to work as domestic helper. This is already enough reason to send them back.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-8-21 19:49

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-8-21 19:55 編輯

回復 12# fy789

I think Lik has pointed that out at the beginning, "...所有從外國來港工作嘅人，只要合乎條件嘅話（除咗住滿7年之外，當中仲包括另外4個條件，而其中一個就係要全個 immediate family都響香港居住滿7年），都可以享用申請香港永久居民身份，但外傭就被剝奪呢個權利，

Wiki has the general background outlining the problem:

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF%E5%B1%85%E7%95%99%E6%AC%8A%E7%88%AD%E8%AD%B0

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-8-21 19:57

I don't see why HK has a problem to reject Filipinos as they
knew beforehand that their work visas are not transferable to
immigration visa. Just like Canadians holding TN-1 visa to
work in US will not be able to applied for green card.
There is absolutely NO ambiguity !
fy789 發表於 2011-8-21 19:43

Diu你，仆街！香港係個簽咗國際人權公約嘅地方，亦即係要遵守國際人權公約裡面嘅條款。你解釋俾我聽點解其他老外去香港做野做夠7年就可以申請做香港永久居民，而外傭就唔可以？點解咁樣唔係種族歧視？

用返你個垃圾比喻，即係家陣美國出個新work visa，你墨西哥人攞，住夠7年就有得俾你申請綠卡，但加拿大人申請返同一個 work visa 就呢世都無得申請綠卡。咁樣唔係叫做種族同國籍歧視係乜撚野呀？！

去仆街死啦，死賤種！

-力

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-8-21 20:00

司法覆核 - http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8F%B8%E6%B3%95%E8%A6%86%E6%A0%B8

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 20:01

我MJJ 天跌落黎都當被"cum".

既然年中都不斷有國地人移民黎香港, 我又唔係咁介意加埋d 菲律賓人黎law. 大家都係地球人, 應該互相包容丫麻. 而家d 香港人怕d 菲律賓人拎哂香港d 福利, 話唔定到時係d 菲律賓人帶契香港人發達都未定啦~

-- 今日唔知聽日事既 MJJ

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 20:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-8-21 20:06 編輯

Diu你，仆街！香港係個簽咗國際人權公約嘅地方，亦即係要遵守國際人權公約裡面嘅條款。你解釋俾我聽點解其 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-8-21 19:57

hahaha, Mr Lik, you have been waiting all day for a chance to use "Diu你，仆街！"
What a cowardly loser you are? You should diu yourself instead.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 20:04

Diu你，仆街！香港係個簽咗國際人權公約嘅地方，亦即係要遵守國際人權公約裡面嘅條款。你解釋俾我聽點解其 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-8-22 11:57

力仔, 你個比喻差左少少.
我覺得如果個菲律賓人係有錢, 香港人係會好歡迎佢入藉既. 而家既問題唔係佢既種族, 而係佢既富貴程度. 香港人係怕要幫菲律賓人照顧埋佢地既國民啊~

-- 唔該唔好diu 我既 MJJ

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 20:04

我MJJ 天跌落黎都當被"cum".

既然年中都不斷有國地人移民黎香港, 我又唔係咁介意加埋d 菲律賓人黎law. 大 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-8-21 20:01

They are in Hong Kong to make money. Every year they sent money back to their country.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 20:06

They are in Hong Kong to make money. Every year they sent money back to their country.
peter236 發表於 2011-8-22 12:04

我唔覺得有問題. 錢搵得黎就係要駛. 你攬住d 錢, d 錢可以陪係入棺材咩... 最緊要係駛錢既時候覺得係值得就可以了.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 20:08

我唔覺得有問題. 錢搵得黎就係要駛. 你攬住d 錢, d 錢可以陪係入棺材咩... 最緊要係駛錢既時候覺得係值得 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-8-21 20:06

If they sent money back to their own country, that means they are not going to 帶契香港人發達, like you claimed.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 20:12

If they sent money back to their own country, that means they are not going to 帶契香港人發達, lik ...
peter236 發表於 2011-8-22 12:08

今日既情況可能會係咁, 但將來係點就邊個知?
香港都有好多人去其他國家搵食, 我自己都識唔少, 仲要搵到好多錢tim, 咁人地係唔係要踢佢走呀? 我覺得人材難求, 多d 人黎未必係一件壞事law.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 20:19

今日既情況可能會係咁, 但將來係點就邊個知?
香港都有好多人去其他國家搵食, 我自己都識唔少, 仲要搵到好 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-8-21 20:12

Those are just domestic helpers. They are not professionals that Hong Kong needs. Foreign professionals can easily stay in Hong Kong, if they can find a job.

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-21 20:21

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作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-21 20:22

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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-8-21 20:22

回復 23# peter236

Seems like you are saying the Flipinos are stealing $$ from HKers...

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 20:29

回復 peter236

Seems like you are saying the Flipinos are stealing $$ from HKers...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-8-21 20:22

I didn't say that at all. They are in HK to make money and then send money back to their country.
They can make more money in HK than in their country. Now, they want to take welfare in HK as well.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-8-21 21:00

Please explain how HK's confirmation to Filipinos' work visa is
NOT an immigration visa violates ...
fy789 發表於 2011-8-21 20:21

撚樣，

講咗90幾次，你唔撚識中文就去食屎啦！

賤種！

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 21:15

撚樣，

講咗90幾次，你唔撚識中文就去食屎啦！

賤種！

-力
Lik 發表於 2011-8-21 21:00

You should diu yourself, you stupid moron.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 21:17

Those are just domestic helpers. They are not professionals that Hong Kong needs. Foreign professi ...
peter236 發表於 2011-8-22 12:19

domestic helpers, 只係因為佢份contract bind 死佢做呢一份工之麻. 佢地之中有好多人係好叻既. 就好似我家中既工人(係印傭), 佢未過黎之前o係印尼果邊做wedding planner 架, 仲勁既係佢阿哥係醫生, 咁佢都曾經跟過佢阿哥做野, 咁醫護常識都好好架~

唔好以為人地黎打工就覺得自己既身分同地位都比人高, 其實大家都係人, 你未必比佢地叻的.

-- 我們都是自己人既 MJJ

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 21:19

Oh, MJJ is cumming.................who are you having fun
with now ?
fy789 發表於 2011-8-22 12:22

呢個我真係唔可以唔回應了!
你冇理由唔知既, 我剛剛先o係你口中...

-- 出櫃 MJJ

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-8-21 21:32

domestic helpers, 只係因為佢份contract bind 死佢做呢一份工之麻. 佢地之中有好多人係好叻既. 就好似我 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-8-21 21:17

任何合約如果本身係違法、違憲嘅話，法院係絕對有權（亦有呢個責任）去判呢份合約無效。同一道理，當條法例寫出來本身就係違憲嘅話，咁法院亦有責任去宣佈呢條法例無效。

當然，我fully expect之後阿爺手下班擦鞋狗又會走出來叫阿爺人大釋法，再一次徹底強姦同破壞香港嘅法治精神。

-力

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 21:43

任何合約如果本身係違法、違憲嘅話，法院係絕對有權（亦有呢個責任）去判呢份合約無效。同一道理，當條法 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-8-22 13:32

仲乜無啦啦quote 我? 我對乜野合唔合乎乜野公約完全冇興趣.
成件事, 我只見到有好多香港人擔心自己要"養起"d 菲律賓人. 我只係覺得梗係有d 睇唔起人窮要chi 佢金康既感覺.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2011-8-21 21:51

i think after they bear those intolerable 7 years, they earn their right.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 21:51

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-8-21 21:58 編輯

domestic helpers, 只係因為佢份contract bind 死佢做呢一份工之麻. 佢地之中有好多人係好叻既. 就好似我 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-8-21 21:17

If those people have good education, then they should find another job and enter Hong Kong as professionals, not as domestic helpers.
The fact that they work as domestic helpers, that shows you their qualifications are not recognized in Hong Kong and therefore they could not find a relevant professional job.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-8-21 21:54

成件事, 我只見到有好多香港人擔心自己要"養起"d 菲律賓人. 我只係覺得梗係有d 睇唔起人窮要chi 佢金康既感覺.
成件事, 我只見到有好多香港人擔心自己要"養起 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-8-21 21:43

所以成件事根本就如我一開始所講：希香港人睇唔起同歧視啲外傭。

而且，反對外傭居港權嘅人裡面，其實只有兩種：

1）盲目無知地咁去反對外傭居港權
2）深知其實外傭居港權本來就唔係問題，但因為有政治油水可撈，所以就老作數據都要出來誤導市民

最可笑嘅就係，驚啲窮人黐佢金糠果啲人，其實本身亦往往永遠唔會分得到特衰政府攞住果舊錢。特衰政府嘅財政儲備，只會用來益基金佬、大地產商、大商家等等。你啲普通閒雜人等嘅作用，只係要來俾+x哥一眾大有錢佬來剝削。

-力

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 21:57

i think after they bear those intolerable 7 years, they earn their right.
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2011-8-22 13:51

其實都唔係好intolerable 之麻...

講到我好似會瘧待d 工人咁. 哈哈~

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-8-21 21:59

其實都唔係好intolerable 之麻...
講到我好似會瘧待d 工人咁. 哈哈~
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-8-21 21:57

There are many cases where the domestic helpers 瘧待 the kids of their employers, and steal things from their employers.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 22:02

If those people have good education, then they should find another job and enter Hong Kong as prof ...
peter236 發表於 2011-8-22 13:51

你估佢地真係好想黎香港打工咩...

好多時, 佢地就算good education, o係香港做工人既人工都高過o係當地打工. 要養家, 要供書教學, 先會離鄉別井, 你估好多人多enjoy 長期同親人分別咩.

"their qualifications are not recognized in Hong Kong", 呢點我完全明白, 但你比唔比人地發奮讀書, 之後取得專業資格去貢獻社會呢? 咁樣香港就有得益了. 你唔好以為人地想黐你金糠(多謝力兄打供黐同糠既正寫比我copy) 先得架!

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-21 22:03

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作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 22:04

There are many cases where the domestic helpers 瘧待 the kids of their employers, and steal things ...
peter236 發表於 2011-8-22 13:59

咁僱主用熨斗lar 個工人又點計?
人最緊要將心比己, 你對人好, 人通常都會對你好.
Peter 仔, 我諗你屋企個工人一定收埋好多大紀元日報同你抗衡呢! 哈哈~

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-21 22:04

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作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 22:06

A far as immigration discrimination is concerned, a lot of EU
countries now only accept people from ...
fy789 發表於 2011-8-22 14:03

唔好意思, 我想問下關EU 同Japan 乜野事?
係唔係人地跳樓我就要跟人跳埋一份? you jump I jump?

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-21 22:08

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作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 22:08

Unlike you, I am not gay !!

Why don't you go back to your usually hang-ouy
place, namelypublic re ...
fy789 發表於 2011-8-22 14:04

冇計, 雖然明知你唔係同道, 但我偏偏喜歡你.
[youtube]7FCF6-rzzs4[/youtube]

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 22:09

So why bother picking on HK as HK is far better than a
lot of "democratic" countries in this regard
fy789 發表於 2011-8-22 14:08

因為我是香港人!

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-21 22:09

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作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-8-21 22:21

Danny loves you, and he will sodomize you tonight in your dream !
fy789 發表於 2011-8-22 14:09

fy fy:

[youtube]W38K4FQe80M[/youtube]

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-22 06:45

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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-8-22 06:52

Do you think they know what's written on the banner... don't be silly...

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-22 07:04

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作者: raffaello 時間: 2011-8-22 07:33

This is exactly what the old Canadian Government said to the Chinese railroad workers.
blue20ae 發表於 2011-8-21 19:32

Good point.

作者: satil 時間: 2011-8-22 09:14

香港人... ?? 實際上, 現在香港的居民, 有幾多是土生土長, 與香港一同在六七十年代共同奮鬥建立輝煌成績的香港人?

醜陋?! 是香港人成份變了, 心態變了, 連簡單的 '人權' 都因自私而扭曲了.

作者: soli 時間: 2011-8-27 16:11

將菲律賓人跟我們勤奮節儉的前輩港人來比較﹐這不是侮辱嗎?

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-8-28 07:56

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作者: sheep 時間: 2011-8-28 19:55

將菲律賓人跟我們勤奮節儉的前輩港人來比較﹐這不是侮辱嗎?
soli 發表於 2011-8-27 16:11

你有好嚴重嘅中文讀寫障礙

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