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作者: Nox 時間: 2007-12-3 18:59 標題: Need suggestion for Antivirus on Vista

I just upgraded myself to Windows Vista, want to ask for some opinions, which is the best antivirus to use for Vista environment?

I used AVG and Avast before (since it's free) and had been staying away from MacAfee and Norton (slow, RAM eating, expensive). I suppose free antivirus is still better than using hacked version as you can get least get updates from AVG or Avast where the hacked version usually get detected by the software company if not immediately then in short future.

Which antivirus do you recommend? (Basing on level of security, capability of detecting and cleaning virus, paid vs free, and RAM eating and slowing of computer)

[ 本帖最後由 Nox 於 2007-12-3 19:00 編輯 ]

作者: ravemother 時間: 2007-12-3 19:14

i am using kaspersky. it is so far the best one i have ever used. it use reasonable resource and virus definition updates hourly. highly recommended.

作者: raima 時間: 2007-12-3 19:17

i used AVG, which is what you've used before. norton is a no-no to me...

作者: notgoddy 時間: 2007-12-3 21:54

NOD32

(http://digg.com/software/NOD32_on_Vista_2)

作者: myversa 時間: 2007-12-4 09:01

I do not use any anti-virus software. I just occasionally scan my computer with online free tool. However, I do suggest to get some anti-spyware software. It is more important than anti-virus software.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2007-12-4 12:50

At work, I use Kaspersky for AV. Kaspersky is still bad on firewall and spyware, for that I use Windows Defender. There are always stuff that Windows Defender could find and Kaspersky can't.

For home, I use Symantec Endpoint Security. It is basically a Norton 360 (less the system backup/optimization) with lots of advanced yet simple features. I will get a screen shot of the memory usage tonight because the previous version (Client Security) used about 25-30MB of RAM. Endpoint seems to use way less.

Still, if you use Vista, you will most likely have 2GB of RAM and Dual Core. Performance hits become very insignificant.

Philip

作者: Nox 時間: 2007-12-4 16:43

Kaspersky....I think I came across some hacked versions somewhere. Think it can't do the auto update if it's hacked though, are you all using legit versions?

作者: ravemother 時間: 2007-12-4 16:58

原帖由 Nox 於 2007-12-4 16:43 發表
Kaspersky....I think I came across some hacked versions somewhere. Think it can't do the auto update if it's hacked though, are you all using legit versions?

yes, i bought mine kaspersky from FS for 39.99. it is worth when compared to the time u need to format the computer and the risk of losing important data.

作者: puZZle 時間: 2007-12-5 00:47

i am using AVG with spybot
works well for me

作者: asmok 時間: 2007-12-5 14:34

I just use AVG coz it's free.

Just make sure your windows defender is up-to-date and UAC is turn on.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2007-12-5 17:24

lol.. I have UAC turned off caz it produces more false alarms than my firewall.

Philip

作者: sko 時間: 2007-12-6 03:08

i'm using norton 360. is this bad?

作者: WaruiOne 時間: 2007-12-6 11:58

原帖由 ravemother 於 2007-12-4 16:58 發表

yes, i bought mine kaspersky from FS for 39.99. it is worth when compared to the time u need to format the computer and the risk of losing important data.

do you have to buy it every year for updates? or is it a one-time cost? i have tried the hacked versions, but kaspersky detect you so quickly. right now i am using nod32, it's working so-so, but i don't really like it though. might be the interface or whatever. and it doesn't seem to prevent the virus, just freaking popup virus warnings.

作者: Nox 時間: 2007-12-6 13:14

I use Avast right now, been using it for 2 years, the downside to that is it's making loading slow. It loads right at start of computer and usually updates itself as soon as it detects internet, so if you are in a hurry to get something from your drive, chances are, you'll have to wait a bit before it finishes everything before you get your regular speed again. Anyhow, still love free antivirus so you don't have to pay them every year. I hate Norton for eating up so much memory (when I was using XP) and you have to pay them every year.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2007-12-6 14:24

Avcast is the one with the smallest resource consumption. Norton is good for most people as they are the cheapest all year around.

Kaspersky does update many times a day, and you need to renew by paying them every year.

Philip

作者: asmok 時間: 2007-12-7 21:35

Well... UAC is suppose to protect the OS from running anything that's not suppose to. If UAC keeps popping up, that means some of the software you installed is not suppose to be accessing files in the OS or it's badly designed software. I got a lecture from the instructor in my 5 days vista course a few weeks ago about UAC. UAC is probably the only thing that prevents unauthorized access to system files even for sys-admin.

I think Norton is just bad..... considering it slows the machine down from a P4 to a 486......

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2007-12-8 17:12

For the UAC, you will get one of this in the course of using Vista normally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80sWifG40B0

Philip

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作者: asmok 時間: 2007-12-9 16:45

That's only the mac way to make fun of vista. If you use your vista regularly, not installing/uninstalling apps or running software testing on a daily basis, then u won't get those warnings.

I got UAC turn on on my laptop and I don't get those on a daily basis.

Sometimes, it's easy to turn off the tool that's bugging you, but it'll defeat the purpose of using Vista if you turn off the core feature in the OS especially for those that pay for the upgrade.

Apple ads are on their website, you can view them all here:
http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2007-12-10 00:44

I remember Symantec used to have UAC like features in a few of their older security suites. I guess MS figured it would be better to have UAC on Vista.

As a power user, I need to go to Control Panels and access system level applications like Group Policy, Console Management etc on a regular basis daily. UAC warning happens in pretty much in every System Property pages. Many of them I feel is un-needed at all: Why need UAC access for re-checking Windows Experience Index or even Device Manager? Why need UAC for copying files to the guest shared folders? Wouldn't it be better to request permissions only when settings were changed? The most annoying part with Vista is the "administrator" option, why do I have specifically choose to "Run as Administrator" when I am already logged in as administrator?

I understand it's nice to have some more control, but to me it's more of an annoyance and counter-productive when I am servicing machines that run on Vista. Also, based on customer feedbacks, they get confused so much with UAC warning even they are doing legit things like installing Printer drivers. Installs tends to screw up because people click "cancel" as they are afraid of clicking "continue".

Mac does the UAC function better by only prompting when settings are made to the system. With Leopard, you can lock down the settings in Administration mode, until you want to unlock them to make changes.

With a comprehensive suites from Symantec, UAC seems to become unneccessary as the security program will prompt you for awkward changes in the system.

People these days seem to beg manufacturers to downgrade their systems to XP. Where in my case, I am running dual boot because Vista is faster than XP in my desktop. It is however restricted to DX10 gaming only.

Philip

作者: asmok 時間: 2007-12-10 15:57

UAC is design to prevent anything to install into the system folders including printers, new hardware, active x, etc.....

It's annoying to click continue when you want to go the the place you want to. It's like a system admin trying to go into the computer room, you'll need to scan your access card before you can go in. The same applies to UAC. It prompts you for access before it let you in. When you deploy hundreds of Vista PC, you'll want to have UAC turn on so dumb people won't have access to load crap on their machine so we don't have to fix it. When you are servicing a machine, it's annoying during the time you need to service it, but you won't be the prime user. The run as administrator is to prevent admin from making mistakes on the system. If you don't want to run as administrator, then just login as the default administrator account. After all UAC is a tool that MS put in so they don't get blame if your machine get infected. As with all new tools from MS, nobody likes it to start with but we'll use it sooner or later when we move forward.

I prefer people clicking on cancel rather then continue if they don't know what they are doing. If they only click continues when it comes up, that means I'll need to fix their machine pretty soon cause those people tend to not read warnings.

Symantec suites cost $$ for those of us that don't make the big bucks and symantec slows the machine down.

Most home user won't have a choice when getting a new a new machine as all new machine is Vista, but business users can downgrade to XP for free.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2007-12-10 17:56

Sophos. Free if you are/were from UBC.

http://www.it.ubc.ca/security/antivirus.html

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作者: cha_wan_mushi 時間: 2008-9-8 15:17

oo?
just bought a Kasperky internet security pack.
am i expected to pay them every year to update the virus definition?
i dun need a newer version of their product..

作者: chunsh 時間: 2008-9-8 15:50

use norton la, its not that expensive

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2008-9-9 21:30

Just installed Norton 2009 and Kaspersky 2009, both work equally, just still spyware/malware detection is still no good compare to dedicated software like Malwarebyte.

Both Norton and Kaspersky uses a lot less resources than before and they run amazingly fast on Vista.

Also, you can use your existing license to upgrade to 2009 for free. For Norton, just download the trial version, then it will automatically use your existing license. Kaspersky need to click onto "Free Upgrade" on the site to do so.

Philip

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作者: maldini 時間: 2009-12-14 18:30

Malwarebytes, Spybot search or Avira is good?
So confused now, AVG keeps on scanning the drive for no reason.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-12-14 21:48

wow... old thread.

Malwarebyte is spyware/malware only. I suggest Avira for AV scan and use Malwarebyte once a while is all you need.

Philip

作者: yoursecret 時間: 2009-12-15 16:51

This is a standalone program you can run manually in addition to your regular antivirus program since no program is perfect in catching the baddies, it's extra security at no cost, yes free.

http://www.threatfire.com/

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