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作者: chobit    時間: 2012-4-29 23:27     標題: 小弟想問吓大家意見。以下兩張相，你覺得邊張好D？

本帖最後由 chobit 於 2012-4-29 23:54 編輯

小弟想問吓大家意見。以下兩張相，你覺得邊張好D？

請給些少意見.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2012-4-30 00:35

To me ..  2 la..  

Yes, it is a bit "post-process" (build in or not)  but make a ordinary photo looks more dynamic .. ^_^

Similar to "convert" colour pic to B&W, (I doubt people use B/W film to take PURE BW pic) just to make boring photos to look not as boring ..
作者: fibbi    時間: 2012-4-30 00:36

#1 is more natural but I don't like the top right which is a bit too dark.
#2 looks like more those scene in the puzzle.
I"m not expert in photography but I think I like #2 more because it's more like a drawing.
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2012-4-30 00:44

Similar to "convert" colour pic to B&W, (I doubt people use B/W film to take PURE BW pic) just to make boring photos to look not as boring ..
Catpiano 發表於 2012/4/30 00:35




Zeiss Ikon + 35mm C biogon f2.8 + Tri-X 400
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2012-4-30 00:47

At the end of the day, it depends on who your target audience is. Based on the poll, it's clear that the general public prefers #2. So if the general public is who you want to serve, then #2 is better in this sense. But if this was for real publication, #2 would be an instant reject.
作者: baubau    時間: 2012-4-30 07:19

to me, photo#1 shows the "river" a little more, whereas photo#2 has the greens a little too rich in colour where it hides all other elements.

I think I'm the odd ball here...
作者: Look4chrisng    時間: 2012-4-30 10:43

Beside color, the issue I have with no.2 is tones in these HDR(?).

I don't know what the Raw converter is, it sure doesn't like shadows.  It takes away the all shadows when the software trys to expose everything "correctly"  Shadow is photographer's friend too.

Without shadows, everything looks flat?!
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2012-4-30 10:45

Beside color, the issue I have with no.2 is tones in these HDR(?).

I don't know what the Raw conver ...
Look4chrisng 發表於 2012/4/30 10:43


there are a million things wrong with the 2nd photo but that's what people find cool these days

I am too old school for this.
作者: imvitasoy    時間: 2012-4-30 11:44

睇怕，佢哋起碼要玩多五年，甚至十年，先會知道你講咩 ;P
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2012-4-30 15:06

睇怕，佢哋起碼要玩多五年，甚至十年，先會知道你講咩
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-4-30 11:44



    NO NEED!
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-4-30 22:21

可以分享下你地的經驗,教吓我?
咁我可以快D學識ma.
最好用自己相.


回復 9# imvitasoy
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2012-4-30 22:35

本帖最後由 快樂牛郎 於 2012-4-30 22:37 編輯
可以分享下你地的經驗,教吓我?
咁我可以快D學識ma.
最好用自己相.


回復  imvitasoy  ...
chobit 發表於 2012/4/30 22:21


As I said, #1 is fine as is. If you find it not good enough, then you need to take another shot somewhere else. I don't believe that there's any shot that you would hate before it's processed and love after it's being processed, unless it's extensive dodging/burning and cropping. A crap shot would still be a crap shot and a good shot would be a good shot regardless. No one would look at a Walken Evans shot and discuss its contrast or sharpness. Things like contrast, color balance, sharpness and saturation do almost nothing to the essence of a photo. It's just waste of time.
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-4-30 23:24

本帖最後由 chobit 於 2012-4-30 23:27 編輯

Good to know that you like #1.  I have to say it's more original.
I just want to hear from imvitasoy, something he can share with me, so that I can improve.  (I hope he is not just a troll)

With all 3 of my big hobbies, driving, photography and computers.  There are just so much more to learn with no ends.  Yet, I can truely enjoy the learning process, and I have always enjoy sharing what I know with others who share the passion.

As I said, #1 is fine as is. If you find it not good enough, then you need to take another shot so ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-4-30 22:35
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2012-4-30 23:28

本帖最後由 快樂牛郎 於 2012-4-30 23:30 編輯

Shooting is the best learning. If I improve 10 times faster than an average photographer, it's only because I shoot 10 times more than average. And by shooting, I don't mean shutter count. You can shoot 100 times more frames than I do in a year, but I surely spend more time in total than you do. I would say on average, 6 frames per hour of continuous shooting is very productive for me.
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-4-30 23:38

Nicely said.  I do have more time this year (If wife doesn't otherwise object to this idea), I should have more time to take pictures of diff. things this year.

I guess that's why I setup a couple of new thread this April.  I truely hope this can encourage more of us here at LYK to share no matter what level your photography you think you are at.

Shooting is the best learning. If I improve 10 times faster than an average photographer, it's only  ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-4-30 23:28
作者: imvitasoy    時間: 2012-4-30 23:39

可以分享下你地的經驗,教吓我?
咁我可以快D學識ma.
最好用自己相.

在下影相好水皮，無資格教人。在下對攝影的興趣只在玩樂，無意鑽研。況且這個話題，涉及好多不同觀點與角度, 要講就要講三日.....
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-5-1 00:14

攝影的興趣只在玩樂 same here =D  But I do like to 鑽研 as there is too little to do in North America la.

在下影相好水皮，無資格教人。在下對攝影的興趣只在玩樂，無意鑽研。況且這個話題，涉及好多不同觀點與角 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-4-30 23:39
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2012-5-1 00:21

Nicely said.  I do have more time this year (If wife doesn't otherwise object to this idea), I should have more time to take pictures of diff. things this year.
chobit 發表於 2012/4/30 23:38


I work a bit differently. I like to focus on one area at a time and won't distract myself with other things until I get to a point where I am pretty satisfied with. I had been doing street for a year or so and right now I am at a good stopping point, so I am concentrating on portraits until I get to a level I am happy at.
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2012-5-2 11:23

可以分享下你地的經驗,教吓我?
咁我可以快D學識ma.
最好用自己相.


回復  imvitasoy  ...
chobit 發表於 2012/4/30 22:21


I always say that photography is not a standalone subject or practice. It's a subgenre of art in general and you need to have a broad understanding and appreciation of art in all forms in order to excel in photography.

The reason that most people in HK or China have no chance of making good photos is because they have never had any chance of getting the necessary education in arts. Their music industry sucks, their movie industry sucks and there is no public appreciation towards art in general. Beijing is much better compared to the rest of the country though. A lot of modern artists have surfaced and grown.
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-5-2 14:40

本帖最後由 chobit 於 2012-5-2 14:45 編輯

I don't quite agree with you, as I believe like all art, photography is also culturally influenced.  In a way, it's almost like color.  That's why we have people who would pick the same car with red over white, or black, etc.
In some way, you can say there is no black and white in art.  Yet, there is also some level of general acceptance to what most general public likes.  It's not like everyday you see a pink car on the road, yet pictures that look far outside of the nom. don't necessary make them creative or artistic.
With photography, the reason we learn about exposure, composition is not follow a set of rule, but those are important skill sets that allow us to capture photos of what  we visually see with our eyes, or off our heads/minds more easily.

PS: I personally enjoy HKPop, and often enough, I found some english music a mix in with too much violence, sexual contents.  And I enjoy soft music more than heavy metal/rock and roll.  But then again, this is a preference, and it's has nothing to do with rather the music is good or bad, it's what you enjoy.


I always say that photography is not a standalone subject or practice. It's a subgenre of art in g ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-5-2 11:23
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2012-5-3 22:15

Na Na Na Na Na Na ..  la la la la


Du Du Du Du Dee Do ...
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-5-4 14:29

LOL.  I bet you have a good time !!


Na Na Na Na Na Na ..  la la la la


Du Du Du Du Dee Do ...
Catpiano 發表於 2012-5-3 22:15
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2012-5-4 15:04

Yeah .. nothing is better then family time .. ^_^  I don't even take picture for my son lately .. (very rare) just rather hug him, play with him, talk with him .. kiss him ...  ^_^
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-5-4 15:13

Nice..!  My son is doing Piano classes, so 1/2hr practic with him after dinner is a must.  Otherwise.. he is relatviely independant.  But then I also need to spend time with my daughter..!  Things will just get busy, since me and my wife also plan on teaching both of them Chinese read/write up till Grade 3 level minimal.  We already bougth all the materials...!!  

Yeah .. nothing is better then family time .. ^_^  I don't even take picture for my son lately .. (v ...
Catpiano 發表於 2012-5-4 15:04
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2012-5-4 16:35

Sigh ...

My son? just play iPad when he wake up ..  then afternoon .. iPad game ..  evening .. iPad game ..  nite .. iPad game .. before bed .. iPad game .. :(
作者: 嘉嘉    時間: 2012-5-4 17:05

the new generation........
作者: chobit    時間: 2012-5-4 20:44

My play with the iPad & Wii all the time too, but generally speaking, I only allow that for weekends.

Sigh ...

My son? just play iPad when he wake up ..  then afternoon .. iPad game ..  evening .. iPa ...
Catpiano 發表於 2012-5-4 16:35
作者: 嘉嘉    時間: 2012-5-4 21:18

hahaha, just like me
I was only allowed to play my gameboy or super nintendo on the weekends when i was little



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