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作者: cunningchu 時間: 2012-8-14 09:49 標題: 修理電器 - 關於租客

剛收到租客通知, 佢話個雪櫃的ice maker唔work, 個APT係全新的, 內裡電器亦係一樣, 但我唔肯定仲有無保養, 如果無, 係咪都係業主搵人去整?

我第1次收租客. 好多野唔明 (譬如: 我想定期去間屋睇下, 我老公話唔好, 每次去搵租客好似傾續租咁, 佢都只係企係門口同我地傾, 我話想入去睇睇, 老公話唔好意思...租左成年比佢地, 我都唔知入面變左咩樣)

如果係由業主承擔, 有無好的電器師傅可介紹? 謝.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-14 10:12

I think you have the right to go inside to check the property. Otherwise you don't know if they grow weed! (just an extreme case).

呢邊整電器係屋主負責。整電器好貴架，有時買過架好過。

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-14 12:05

可以入屋的，一年兩三次入屋好正常。
當然唔好留太耐，主要睇下有無違規損壞，就算數。

作者: B2L2 時間: 2012-8-14 13:13

And landlord supposes to pre-arrange a visiting time. They have all reason to refuse you if you just go knock on the door (I know, you own that house, but... )

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-8-14 13:47

If you are worry, you can use my method. I will arrange pick up cheques from my tenant every 6 months. That way I can *go in and check* briefly.

landlord has the right to inspect the unit BUT you have to make appoitnment. Yes, you own the place but you also taking rent as well. So as long as they paid rent, I believe they have right to refuse any sudden vist or inspection.

As for fixing things, it is part of landlord responsibilty. My condo was brand new, and my tentant freaking text me every month to fix *something* for the first 3 months. I take it an opportunity to inspect my unit lor.

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-8-14 13:48

As for your applicances, did you register for warranty?
I think brand new condo usaully have 1 year warranty coverage.

作者: sheep 時間: 2012-8-14 13:50

my tentant freaking text me every month to fix *something* for the first 3 months. I take it an opportunity to Nam 發表於 2012-8-14 13:47

want to date you

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2012-8-14 17:34

For sure you want to set up a inspection schedule with your tenant, may be inspect once every few months. Otherwise, you place will become a grow op!

作者: cunningchu 時間: 2012-8-14 18:39

本帖最後由 cunningchu 於 2012-8-14 18:48 編輯

我地的APT雖然係brand new, 但唔係果頭買, 果頭即刻租得出, 空置左約2個月左右. 所以已經過左保養期.

個住客係用電郵話比我地知. 我係公司CHECK先知, 咪答佢如果係ice dispenser壞，唔係個fridge, 呢個係佢optional features, 如果過左保養, 而個FRIDGE無壞, 咁我地可能唔會整. 再同佢講新電器好少會壞, 約佢今個禮拜六睇下咩野事, 通埋叫佢以後有咩事, 打我手機或TEXT我, 唔好用電郵.

佢之後真係TEXT我, 但係叫我睇EMAIL, 一睇就把鬼火....佢話根據tendancy agreement, 我地必須要幫佢整..仲話禮拜六太耐 (如果咁URGENT, 點解唔打比我地?), 跟著又話根據tendancy agreemtn, 我地要"The landlord is required to clean out the dryerexhaust pipe and outside vent at reasonable intervals. 佢話個dryer條管唔干浄, 令佢干衫時間長左, 用多左電(今年加租時, 佢就同地講唔值咁的錢, 話地方太細, 唔光猛, DRYER條管唔干浄, 因為係發展商設計問題, 已經解釋比佢聽我地清理唔到, 亦唔論到我地清理), 我地之間簽的agreement係無呢個條款..唔知佢係邊樹quotE出黎, 再黎俾左好多RTO的LINK話佢有咩權益, 話如果我地唔理佢, 佢可以去RTR求助!!!

我想問係咪真係要整ice dispenser, 我地的合約話包FRIDGE (另外, 電器用左1年就壞? 似係人為因素而唔係wear & tear),...另外, 佢所謂的tendancy agreement並唔係我地之間的合約, 我估佢係係RTO度搵, 我係咪一定要履行?仲有, 如果俾1個月通知佢叫佢走, 要唔要再整野?其實佢好麻煩, 入黎住無耐, 先後話洗碗機, 干衣機, 碎骨機,按摩BATH都話, 有問題, 明明話要鑽牆, 要通知(因為係石屎), 佢就當屋主自己黎...

作者: cunningchu 時間: 2012-8-14 18:44

希望各位俾D意見要點樣做....

我每次上黎的長篇大論POST, 都唔係好野....黑仔過黑仔...

作者: bubblesalt 時間: 2012-8-14 20:47

You should at least attempt to fix it, cause "IF" it's completely untreated, they have a right to fix it themselves and bill you for it. If your rental agreement said "fridge", then all parts of the fridge is included. Let's say the freezer broke, you can't go "oh I only rent the fridge and not the freezer" right?

Remember, the RTA will favor the tenant and not the owner most of the time, and you don't want them involved.

If you want to kick them out, you have to give 2 month notice and can't charge them the last month's rent, do you want to do that?

You should certainly visit the apartment at least once in a while (every 3-6 months), but you have to give ample notice (more than 24 hours), and they can't refuse your entry. Just inspect the house, look for defects. You can even get them to sign an inspection report detailing the deficiencies they have caused the apartment. This way you know they haven't wreaked anything (appliance, carpet, wall, etc).

作者: cunningchu 時間: 2012-8-15 06:21

Thanks for your prompt reply.

We decided to hire a licensed technician to see what happened to avoid the dispute.

The tenant had already finished 1st year "fixed" leased, according to our agreement signed between ourselves, any party want to terminate the agreement by giving 1 month notice.  So, I'm a bit confused what you meant " we can't charge them the last month's rent"  Anything we miss/misunderstand RTA's regulation? It is the first time for us being a landlord.

Another question I want to ask: my tenant quoted a number of terms & condition in "tendency agreement" from the RTA's website, such as landlord is responsible to "clean out the dryer exhaust pipe and outside vent at reasonable intervals" which is not a part in of the agreement we signed.  Is it mandatory for us to abide the agreement set by RTA?  If so, you are really right, RTA protect tenant rather than landlord.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2012-8-15 10:43

Sorry, but I'm on your tenant side in this case here.  It is well known that RTA protects tenant.  So if RTA gets involve in your case, you will have an uphill battle.

1) fridge refers to this one appliance you provided in the unit for the tenant.  So if any part of that fridge is malfunctioned, for me it is reasonable to ask you to fix it.  If you eventually have to replace the fridge without an ice dispenser, I think you better get the agreement with the tenant first as well.

2) dryer pipe/vent.  since your own tendancy agreement doesn't mention about this, RTA will base it off their guideline which means you will have to clean out.  What's a reasonable intervals?  I can't say.  My previous apartment cleans them once a year.  You could hire technician to do that inside the house and it shouldn't cost a lot.  I will just do that if I were you.  Also, sounds like it is a well known problem from the builder.  Has your strata brought this up with the builder?  My previous apartment has an extra blower fan into the dryer pipe to reduce the build up.

Hope this gives you a different view on your case here.

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-8-15 11:37

雖然我都係個包租婆，但係租得間屋俾人住，就預咗㗎啦，啱啱租俾我租客，頭個三個月真係吹脹，可能佢第一次自己搬離屋企啦，連個門個螺絲鬆咗都text 我叫我去整，事關佢有啲大鄉理，見屋院有security，以為保安差，差實係對面樓花開始起！

我但求佢唔好將我間屋當大麻屋，唔好養狗，唔好撞到啲野爛到飛起，個個月張票唔彈，我都偷笑！我都就嚟同佢一年約滿，雖然三次上去，佢都住得好整齊，但都諗住到約滿時約佢驗吓間屋，因為我每次都係個客廳同佢傾計！

下次咪同新租客friend 啲囉，我都有真心關心佢哋住成點，有咩幫手，佢都同我update 吓層樓個排有咩變動，麻煩野！

作者: B2L2 時間: 2012-8-15 12:50

Nam, every time you said you're a 包租婆, the 上海婆(沈殿霞) image shows up... LOL, sorry..

作者: bubblesalt 時間: 2012-8-15 15:42

本帖最後由 bubblesalt 於 2012-8-15 15:44 編輯

Thanks for your prompt reply.

We decided to hire a licensed technician to see what happened to av ...
cunningchu 發表於 2012-8-15 06:21

Sorry.... Didn't know your signed contract is over, I thought you still have a contract (I thought you had a contract and want to "kick" them out).
RTA will always take the side of the tenant (unless they have something super crazy or didn't pay you). Try to complaint to the Strata if the air vent is a known problem.

作者: cunningchu 時間: 2012-8-19 15:20

Sorry.... Didn't know your signed contract is over, I thought you still have a contract (I thought ...
bubblesalt 發表於 2012-8-15 15:42

The contract is over and now it is " 生約" , either of us give 1 month notice if any party want to terminate the agreement.

Frankly, those issues particular about RTA that you mentioned we never think or expect it. Now, we know what it is about and are pleased to be a cooperative landlord. At one point, we want to kick out the tenant but consider the market situation; we will try to keep them if they are not demanding. They told us they want to paint the wall as they think it is not match with their furniture/setting when we came to our unit for checking the ice-dispenser. We turned them down as we think it is a not make sense request. If they take this as an excuse to terminate the agreement, we’d let them go.

Thanks for reminding us to complaint to the Strata to see if they can do something on the air vent, at the meanwhile, we will find someone to clean it up. Hope it won't cost too much.

作者: cunningchu 時間: 2012-8-19 15:40

雖然我都係個包租婆，但係租得間屋俾人住，就預咗㗎啦，啱啱租俾我租客，頭個三個月真係吹脹，可能佢第一次 ...
Nam 發表於 2012-8-15 11:37

其實我地俾佢好大的自由度...住左成年, 我地無話入去睇下攪咩鬼, 亦俾佢養狗.

諗住單位細, 我地專登買左個drop-leave table兼搵師傅裝好係個牆度，佢租時問可唔可以移去另外一邊，已經同佢釋過話因地方有限，唔好轉，點知過左幾日同我地講話上牆的螺絲唔知點解跌左入牆度，我地估佢肯定唔聽話自己想鑽開粒螺絲移位, 我地都無話佢,淨係叫佢唔好放重野落張枱...

試過有次入票, teller查度佢個戶口無錢, 叫我地唔好入, 我地打俾佢, 誓神劈願話有入, 最後就叫我地夜晚晚特登由richmond開車到vancouver問佢攞租, 去到先賴老婆唔記得入票

從來無諗過做包租婆原黎係咁煩

作者: cunningchu 時間: 2012-8-19 15:57

想問下:租客買左 ice dispenser的filter, 我地係咪要俾番錢個租客? 謝

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-20 09:59

回復 18# cunningchu

Actually, I'll be more cautious if the tenant want to keep a dog. 'Coz some strata has by-law that no dogs allow...

作者: B2L2 時間: 2012-8-20 10:19

If your tenant ask you to reimburse the filter cost, I think you will need to pay for it.

Rental unit that allows pet is actually hard to find and usually cost more. I'm a dog owner myself, so I'm not against pet. But don't underestimate what damage a dog could do to your apartment. My friend's dog once dig a hole thru a drywall in a day. Of course he need to repair that before he moved out his rental apartment.

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