標題: [香港新聞] 自由行失控 迫爆香港 [打印本頁]
作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-29 10:11 標題: 自由行失控 迫爆香港
自由行失控 迫爆香港
中央一聲令下放寬自由行，超過400多萬的深圳無戶籍人士由下月起，就能夠以「一簽多行」的方式南下。事實上，2011年訪港旅客數字高達4193萬人次，高於世界各大城市，承受能力早已在極限邊緣。再增加百萬旅客，自由行隨時失控，迫爆香港。
香港過去幾年的旅客增長主要來自內地；2006年，訪港的內地旅客只得1358萬人次，但2011年內地旅客訪港人次就錄得2810萬。6年之間，內地旅客躍升超過1倍，同期來自其他地區的旅客的人次增加18%。06年，內地旅客佔整體旅客的比例只是略高於五成，去年有關比率增至近七成，即是每10名訪港旅客，就有7名內地人。
旅發局主席田北俊年初已預計，今年整體的旅客數字會超過4400萬人次，當中超過3000萬內地旅客。如今中央放寬自由行，實際旅客人數極可能遠超田北俊估計。然而，內地公安部掌握自由行審批權，香港政府無話事權，即使旅客迫爆香港，香港政府也無法控制人數。
內地客已成為香港旅遊業的主要服務對象，香港大街小巷、購物廣場，以至屋村商場，亦要為遷就內地客消費口味而改頭滿面，香港市面變得單一化，四周名店林立，趕絕小鋪生存空間，亦影響到市民日常生活。
內地自由行計劃始於03年，原是沙士之後內地對香港的救市政策，但時移世易，內地人旅客激增，亦挑動起中港矛盾，不少港人對內地人爭床位爭奶粉的不滿情緒，越來越激烈。政黨紛紛把握這次機會示威抗議，連旅遊業議會主席胡兆英今天接受電台訪問也坦言，多了旅客來港對市民生活難免有影響，呼籲市民體諒。
香港政府官員卻不以為然。不單是曾經表態不會增加自由行配額的梁振英反口覆舌； 對於放寬自由行一簽多行，食物及衛局長高永文今天只說政府非常關心，會與相關部門檢討運作，如影響到香港，會有適當措施。
作者: Littleprince 時間: 2012-8-29 10:14
係嘛﹖ 救滴滴尼嘛﹖ 
作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-29 11:04
All HK people will be very rich because of the tourism. See the graph, it is 4 times better than New York. Wakaka
作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-29 11:12
回復 3# 吳孟達
It depends on how do you define "ALL"... 
HK tourism has to sustain quality for competence, it may turn into a BIG mess if situation is not properly managed. The HK community seems to be overloaded for the moment though...
作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-29 11:23
China is Helping and Saving ALL people in HK.....
ALL = already rich people
作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-29 11:30
新增自由行唔係 410 萬，係 1400 萬！！！兩倍香港人口！！！
大話英報細數，傳媒又中伏
http://www.chinese.rfi.fr/%E4%B8 ... A%E5%8F%8D%E5%AF%B9
作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-8-29 11:34
but the funny thing is, why do so many people want to travel to hk?
作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-29 11:36
回復 7# 快樂牛郎
Shopping lol, too many fake items in China... 
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2012-8-29 12:16
but the funny thing is, why do so many people want to travel to hk?
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-8-29 11:34 
Why not? I love to travel there too .. You can get/buy/eat almost everything within blocks...
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-29 12:29
回復 快樂牛郎
Shopping lol, too many fake items in China...
lo_pak 發表於 2012-8-29 11:36
That's not true at all. Luxury brands have so many flagship stores in mainland China.
作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-8-29 17:47
好，快d迫爆香港，搶哂d奶粉，屙多d屎尿
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2012-8-29 18:43
That's not true at all. Luxury brands have so many flagship stores in mainland China.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-29 12:29
Yes .. then you ass ass all your buddies ... why go HK .. paris .. Japan .. Germany .. London .. etc to shop la.. lol
作者: satil 時間: 2012-8-29 18:56
回復 12# Catpiano
見識過強國人民連買杯咖啡都講唔掂.
去Paris .. Japan .. Germany .. London, 有難度喎, 佢地會啞咗一大半, 點表現財大氣粗的豪氣!!?!
有冇報導強國人在Paris或London通街屙, 無呀麻, 係蝦你香港人, 大家自己地方無計既
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2012-8-29 19:00
That is true .... when they were facing custom in Europe ... very "quiet" ga ...
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-29 19:20
回復 Catpiano
有冇報導強國人在Paris或London通街屙, 無呀麻, 係蝦你香港人, 大家自己地方無計既
(1) Museum du Louvre 有張貼，叫人尊重衛生之類字眼, 係只用簡體中文寫嘅。日本聽過也有類似情況，但我無親眼見過。
(2) 蝦你香港人, 大家自己地方無計既 <----- 中國軍隊專打中國人，是強國人習性。
作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-8-29 21:13
香港已經响97嗰陣淪陷咗架喇啵~
依家仲要搵D咁嘅嘢嚟搞... 放咁多自由人落嚟, 香港會唔會陸沉架~~ .gif)
作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2012-8-29 21:33
話唔定遲D 連回鄉卡都唔駛用.
作者: yuusaku 時間: 2012-8-29 21:39
提起淪陷，小弟youtube左
[youtube]EEIeGLSkZ_c[/youtube]
(唔好意思有D離題)
比自己人淪陷都好過比人侵略咁淪陷
香港已經响97嗰陣淪陷咗架喇啵~
依家仲要搵D咁嘅嘢嚟搞... 放咁多自由人落嚟, 香港會唔會陸沉架~~ :pig25(3 ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2012-8-29 21:13
作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-8-29 21:53
提起淪陷，小弟youtube左
(唔好意思有D離題)
比自己人淪陷都好過比人侵略咁淪陷
...
yuusaku 發表於 2012/8/29 21:39
同埋而家就算係所謂淪陷
人地都係真金白銀拎錢落黎買野
如果係日本仔
俾幾張軍票俾你當廁紙
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-29 22:14
(1) Museum du Louvre 有張貼，叫人尊重衛生之類字眼, 係只用簡體中文寫嘅。日本聽過也有類似情況，但我 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-29 19:20
That's not true at all.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 02:27
That's not true at all.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-29 22:14
真珠無咁真
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2012-8-30 07:54
同埋而家就算係所謂淪陷
人地都係真金白銀拎錢落黎買野
如果係日本仔
俾幾張軍票俾你當廁紙 ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-8-29 21:53
That is so true .. what's wrong when they are shopping in HK? and pay more then local?
The main reason hongers dont like free walkers, (inlcluding me) is they drive up the price on everything ... luxury clothing .. watches .. bags .. etc ...
I recall ~10plus yr ago, when shopping at Joyce, LC, Emperor etc .. good and fast service, great advice, very relax enironment, no pushing .. and of course, great price! (compared to rest of the word)
Now? no more la.. crazy listed price, always packed, no sales like to serve you, pushing, (just ask if you buy or not) not much "trying" ... more or less, need "connection" to shop for some stuffs .. 
作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-30 07:58
回復 22# Catpiano
I guess not only luxury store has changed...but main "problem" is that the rent has be driven up, the smaller shores forced to go to other places (or simply disappears...)
作者: yuusaku 時間: 2012-8-30 09:11
做生意都係現實㗎啦，邊個比錢就係老細，D sales 大細超嘅話係拒哋嘅損失，少一個客就收少份佣，同自己銀包作對。
That is so true .. what's wrong when they are shopping in HK? and pay more then local?
The ...
Catpiano 發表於 2012-8-30 07:54
作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-30 09:37
點解大陸都有名牌店啲人係都要死落黎香港買？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
因為大陸稅重呀！！
作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-30 09:52
Go to vanpeople.com and try to understand their life la, very high class ga.
PRIVATE MANSION POOL PARTY (need to sign up and read)
http://forum.vanpeople.com/showtopic-149829.php
This is one of their member's avatar, very cool gar!
Conclusion: They helped to boost up everywhere's economy
作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-30 11:34
回復 26# 吳孟達
Of course many live a luxury life and boost up the sales of the luxury goods. (otherwise not that many ferrari on the street...)
btw..I saw a Ferrarri with N sign last week...
But also many middle-class like everyone else and they would like to grab baby formula, medicine, 日用品 etc because HK product is more trust worthy...
作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-30 11:39
香港的物品是香的
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 11:40
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-30 11:43 編輯
點解大陸都有名牌店啲人係都要死落黎香港買？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
因為大陸稅重呀！！ ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-30 09:37
Mainland China is just like Canada. Canadians need to pay taxes at the border on the way back. The Chinese customs collect taxes at the border as well.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 11:43
點解大陸都有名牌店啲人係都要死落黎香港買？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
因為大陸稅重呀！！ ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-30 09:37
更大原因，是假貨。造假大國啊，老友~
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 11:44
更大原因，是假貨。造假大國啊，老友~
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 11:43
All big luxury brand names have lots of flagship stores in China.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 11:48
All big luxury brand names have lots of flagship stores in China.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-30 11:44
That doesn't explain why mainlanders like to shop at hk.
But I thought you would be saying that's their generosity to save the declining HK economy.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 11:50
That doesn't explain why mainlanders like to shop at hk.
But I thought you would be saying t ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 11:48
Not all mainlanders like to shop in Hong Kong. These days, mainland Chinese tourists go to many other countries all over the world. They have alternatives.
作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-30 11:52
回復 31# peter236
of course big luxury store in China.
but also lots of "Grade A items" available la. Don't tell me it's fake, I have seen TONS in ShenZhen
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 11:59
回復 peter236
of course big luxury store in China.
but also lots of "Grade A items" availab ...
fibbi 發表於 2012-8-30 11:52
The point here is that, when the Chinese want to buy genuine products, they can go to the many luxury brand name flagship stores in China. They have alternatives other than HK.
作者: satil 時間: 2012-8-30 12:04
本帖最後由 satil 於 2012-8-30 12:05 編輯
回復 35# peter236
講乜他佢地有選擇, 班強國人民只有去香港, 先至有口能言.
去外國, 個個啞咗九成.
事實係每年4千幾萬人次落香港掃貨, 理得你有冇店係大陸, 佢地選擇落香港買, 這就是簡單的事實.
作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-30 12:05
回復 35# peter236
having alternative is one thing...they like to shop in HK is another thing...
so they don't have language issue, and also close.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 12:10
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-30 12:25 編輯
Not all mainlanders like to shop in Hong Kong. These days, mainland Chinese tourists go to many oth ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-30 11:50
But still they are shopping in HK~~
人要面樹要皮，hkgers 基本上擺明唔喜歡大陸人，正如大陸人一樣擺明唔喜歡香港人，
最好mainlanders 唔好來香港，皆大歡喜~~
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2012-8-30 12:14
30 million ... we are talking the whole Canada ar ..
Probably 35M or 40M this yr and next yr ...
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 12:25
But still they are shopping in HK~~
人要皮樹要皮，hkgers 基本上擺明唔喜歡大陸人，正如大陸人一 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 12:10
This shows you how shameless some HK people are.
China has an obligation to support HK's economy. They are not even asking for a "thank you", from HK.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 12:28
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-30 12:30 編輯
回復 peter236
having alternative is one thing...they like to shop in HK is another thing...
so they don't have language issue, and also close.
fibbi 發表於 2012-8-30 12:05
The Chinese don't have language problems when they shop in mainland China.
Only some of them shop in HK.
When they shop in Europe, they receive better service, unlike in HK where the service industry is not as polite.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 12:29
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-30 12:31 編輯
This shows you how shameless some HK people are.
China has an obligation to support HK's economy. ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-30 12:25
This shows you how shameless some mainlanders are.
香港人去大陸cepa 叫派糖，大陸國企來香港cap 水廿年叫救港。
未計五年一小災，十年一大災的香港捐款，去到大陸無影無蹤。
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 12:31
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-30 12:51 編輯
香港人去大陸cepa 叫派糖，大陸國企來香港cap 水廿年叫救港
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 12:29
hahaha, please do not make things up.
The term "派糖" is only used by HK's own stupid media.
It is the HK companies that make big money in China.
HK's economy is way smaller than China's, so there are fewer businesses to be done.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 12:37
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-30 12:39 編輯
That's not true at all. It is the HK companies that make big money in China.
Hk's economy is way sm ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-30 12:31
What kind of jokes you're trying to make ? Even the top listed HK companies like 和黃 and SHK can't say they're making BIG money in China.
Not to mention the first two decades (from 80 to mid 90's）of china's open door period, during which most HK investors 輸到扑街 in china.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 12:40
What kind of jokes you're trying to make ? Even the top listed HK companies like 和黃 and SHK can ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 12:37
You are the one who is joking here.
China's economy is way larger than HK economy.
Large Chinese companies don't benefit much from HK.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 12:44
hahaha, the term "派糖" is only used by HK's own stupid media.
But the term seems so favorably received by those stupid mainlanders.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 12:50
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-30 12:52 編輯
But the term seems so favorably received by those stupid mainlanders.
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 12:44
hahaha, at least you now understand that you made this up.
"cepa 叫派糖"
Mainlanders don't care what term used by HK's own stupid media.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 12:52
You are the one who is joking here.
China's economy is way larger than HK economy.
Large Chinese ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-30 12:40
Your lie like this is a typical one that's joking with your own ignorance again.
Check it for yourself on how 和黃's profile is like. China segment probably won't take up more than 35% of their global biz. Even 愛國商人霍英東....哈哈 ，講多都哂氣。
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 12:54
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-30 12:57 編輯
Your lie like this is a typical one that's joking with your own ignorance again.
Check it fo ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 12:52
At least, now you understand, the term "cepa 派糖" is only used by HK's own media, unlike what you claimed.
Also, China's economy is way larger than Hk's economy.
Large Chinese companies do not make much money in HK.
For large Chinese companies, their HK segment is very small, unlike what you claimed.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 12:57
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-30 13:14 編輯
hahaha, at least you now understand that you made this up.
"cepa 叫派糖"
Mainlanders don't care wh ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-30 12:50
I didn't make up anything, that was how every time when those chinese leaders came that the media would use to mock with the stupid "so-called" favorable policies. Hkgers knew well that those were nothing but another form of 搵老襯 again.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-30 12:59
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-30 13:02 編輯
I didn't make up anything, that was how every time when those chinese leaders came that the medi ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 12:57
It is the Hk media that invented the term "派糖", unlike what you claimed.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 13:04
For large Chinese companies, their HK segment is very small, unlike what you claimed.
It could be true now, but definitely not so in the first two decades of open door, during which HK investment were like 救命草to the "totally collapsed chinese economy" (economist Steven Cheung's words) . And that explains how shameless, your words, some mainlanders are in claiming how they rescue HK now.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 13:10
It is the Hk media that invented the term "派糖", unlike what you claimed.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-30 12:59
Your way of denying mainlanders' hubris.
作者: satil 時間: 2012-8-30 14:00
本帖最後由 satil 於 2012-8-30 14:05 編輯
回復 53# imvitasoy
六七八十年代, 香港幫咗大陸, 引進資金及技術, 是普遍人都知的事實. 而嗰批人輸得好慘, 係人所共知的事實. 大量國企來港借殼吸水又是事實.
正如我係另一個post話共慘黨割地賣國, 列埋邊幾個國家, 都是事實.
皮蛋仔都係話lie 呀, make up 呀來拗. 有時真係佢根本無知?? 或者被洗腦, 只懂共慘黨講嗰套??
我地都只須列清事實, 大家有眼睇咪得囉, 真係唔使理佢, 佢次次都用咁既方法嚟拗, 都無points既 
作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-30 15:21
回復 54# satil
佢唔用呢啲point嚟拗根本無得拗啦。。。
作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-30 15:37
回復 55# fibbi
Poor Peter... I'm okay with him when he's normal, although the chance is light...
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-30 16:40
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-30 17:01 編輯
回復 imvitasoy
六七八十年代, 香港幫咗大陸, 引進資金及技術, 是普遍人都知的事實. 而嗰批人輸得好慘, ...
satil 發表於 2012-8-30 14:00
唔講六七八十年代，回歸後1997 到2007 十年，幾多國企經香港cap 水，單是在下糢糊+保守記憶，一個BOC 已經是二百億，未計更大的工行。單是五大內銀已經過千億。佢老味班貪官來買一世prada 都賺唔返佢哋千億呀。
仲有所謂自由行不知所謂，先唔講搶奶粉，通街大小便，頭五年的自由行，很多是香港人"被接待" 大陸人來玩，在下在香港期間，有六七次被接待過佢哋既經驗，有來自上海，廣東，海南, 哈爾濱來，有親戚，有朋友，有工作性質，無一不是在下包食包住收尾。換句話講，自由人在香港的所謂消費，有某程度是出自香港人本身的袋。
未計幾年一次的水災，地震，捐款又是億億計。最應棍當然是上次汶川，二百億？ 在下都唔清楚咯，只知道捐款入到四川後無影無縱。
所以大陸人一講歷史就怕，於是佢哋嘅歷史不停地在龜縮。
作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-8-30 17:16
But still they are shopping in HK~~
人要面樹要皮，hkgers 基本上擺明唔喜歡大陸人，正如大陸人一 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 12:10
講到咁白, 當堂要俾個Like 你啦~ 俾多個都仲得呀! 
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2012-8-30 17:25
回復 57# imvitasoy
無恥無能共產黨
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 01:42
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-31 01:54 編輯
大量國企來港借殼吸水又是事實
satil 發表於 2012-8-30 14:00
Your point does not make any sense at all. Perhaps you don't even know how a stock exchange works.
Chinese companies are merely listed on HK's stock exchange. They are not taking money from HK, like you claimed. Many of them are multiple listed in Shanghai and New York. They have alternative stock exchanges for listing.
The investment money is mostly money from international investors, not HK money.
HK stock exchange is just a platform for international investors to invest in Chinese stocks listed on the stock exchange.
For example, foreign companies like HSBC, Standard chartered bank and Prada are listed in HK stock exchange through which international investors invest in those stocks.
Since HK's economy is very small comparatively and Hk population is small, local HK money is very small potatoes, compared with big international investors.
Note that the biggest shareholders of large Chinese companies are usually the Chinese government itself or other big Chinese mutual funds, Chinese conglomerates or the Chinese sovereign wealth funds.
Chinese companies are actively trade in HK, so HK actually benefitted tremendously from the stock transaction fees and the stamp duty.
Without Chinese companies listing, HK stock exchange will become very small in size, and most likely will not be able to compete with big rivals like the Singapore stock exchange.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 01:53
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-31 02:07 編輯
唔講六七八十年代，回歸後1997 到2007 十年，幾多國企經香港cap 水，單是在下糢糊+保守記憶，一個BOC 已經是二百億，未計更大的工行。單是五大內銀已經過千億。佢老味班貪官來買一世prada 都賺唔返佢哋千億呀。
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-30 16:40
Note that, the money is mostly from international investors. Local HK money is small in size.
Remember, HK stock exchange is international.
The investment money is mostly money from international investors, not HK money.
HK stock exchange is just a platform for international investors to invest in Chinese stocks listed on the stock exchange.
Chinese companies listed on HK's stock exchange are not taking money from HK, like you claimed.
International investors, foreign banks and institutional investors like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and foreign mutual funds etc, buy Chinese stocks through the HK stock exchange.
I don't blame you for not realizing that though.
HK government benefits from the stock transaction fees and the stamp duty. The accountants, lawyers and related financial analysts benefit from Chinese stock listing.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 02:07
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-31 02:12 編輯
Note that, the money is mostly from international investors. Local HK money is small in size.
Remember, HK stock exchange is international.
International investors, foreign banks and institutional investors like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and foreign mutual funds etc, buy Chinese stocks through the HK stock exchange.
I don't blame you for not realizing that though.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-31 01:53
You took a long time to come up with something huh ?
Note that, the values that I quoted were solely referring to HK IPO .
Besides, the so-called international line-ups were brought in mostly, if not all, through HK go-betweens like 梁伯滔 and the likes beginning at the 90's.
I don't blame you for not realizing that, as I know the history that you've learnt is truncated.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 02:10
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-31 02:17 編輯
You took a long time to come up with something huh ?
Note that, the values that I quoted was ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-31 02:07
International investors are free to participate in all IPOs in Hong Kong as HK stock exchange is international.
HK benefits from Chinese companies listings. That's what make Hk stock exchange big, active and international.
Local HK companies IPOs are relatively small.
International investors, foreign banks and investors like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and foreign mutual funds, buy Chinese stocks through the HK stock exchange.
HK government benefits from Chinese stock transaction fees and the stamp duty. Jobs are created for accountants, lawyers and the financial industry.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 02:16
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-31 02:19 編輯
.....HK benefits from Chinese companies listings.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-31 02:10
Admit the fact Peter, your nation companies scooped the largest slice of the pie.
HK benefited only from middleman commissions.
Besides, at the first decade of the 90s. international investors 識你青島啤 & 中移動 係老鼠。
作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-31 02:19
no, it is Chinese companies benefit from HK system.
留係所謂「超越香港」既上海上市丫～～1/4資金都集唔到呀！
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 02:19
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-31 02:22 編輯
Admit the fact Peter, your nation companies scooped the largest slice of the pie.
HK benef ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-31 02:16
Admit what fact? What do you mean by "scooped the largest slice of the pie"?
That's the purpose of a stock exchange, a place where international investors buy stocks. No one is forcing any person to buy.
I told you already that the money is mostly from international investors, not local HK investors, like you claimed.
Hong Kong is an international financial center and benefits as the middleman, just like London and New York.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 02:22
HK government benefits from Chinese stock transaction fees and the stamp duty. Jobs are created for accountants, lawyers and the financial industry.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-31 02:10
隻蛋已經講到無嘢好講 
不如數埋香港各式手作廠仔，竟然在華南養活千萬大陸人
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 02:23
隻蛋已經講到無嘢好講
不如數埋香港各式手作廠仔，竟然在華南養活千萬大陸人 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-31 02:22
I guess you are running out of points, after I exposed your logical flaws.
Clearly you don't even know how a stock exchange functions.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 02:25
Admit what fact? What do you mean by "scooped the largest slice of the pie"?
peter236 發表於 2012-8-31 02:19
試下用隻大飯殼，成件24吋pizza 撈走，你咪知道咯
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 02:26
I guess you are running out of points, after I exposed your logical flaws.
Clearly you don't even know how a stock exchange functions.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-31 02:23
我已經開始明白你既說話方式。
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 02:26
no, it is Chinese companies benefit from HK system.
留係所謂「超越香港」既上海上市丫～～1/4資金都集 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-31 02:19
hahaha, moi you were baited out by imvitasoy.
Where do you get that idea? Many large Chinese companies are also listed in New York.
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 02:33
試下用隻大飯殼，成件24吋pizza 撈走，你咪知道咯
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-31 02:25
hahaha, I expect more from you.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 02:38
hahaha, I expect more from you.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-31 02:33
But I am not interested in anymore from you
作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-31 02:44
and??最近最容易上市向外國集資既地方就係香港。
點解？？？因為香港既制度令外國資金安心投資，
係上海就唔係咁講法，盤數唔清唔楚都上到市，
又冇聽過中國高精密事件？？？？？
作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-31 02:47
呢個係香港既「商譽」同「信譽」，就係上海點都唔會追到香港既原因!
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 02:49
最近最容易上市向外國集資既地方就係香港
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-31 02:44
moi, well done this time. At least you understand the IPO money comes from 向外國集資.
作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-31 02:54
and????你認為有幾多大陸公司盤數攞去NY可以上到市？？？
唔好唔記得，有幾多香港人抽波仔買新股向中資進貢～！
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 06:42
本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-8-31 06:43 編輯
回復 77# MoiRhapsody
你同佢講多哂氣，用左香港個平台cap 咗水，然後話的水係外國來。
不如話天跌落來啦，呢D 咪叫厚顏無恥咯，現場示範版呀。
作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-8-31 09:35
人要面樹要皮，hkgers 基本上擺明唔喜歡大陸人，正如大陸人一樣擺明唔喜歡香港人，
最好mainlanders 唔好來香港，皆大歡喜~~
imvitasoy 發表於 2012/8/30 12:10
呢樣野話都冇咁易
只要所有香港商戶講明唔做大陸人生意 見一個打一個
仲點會有人去?
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-31 16:43
呢樣野話都冇咁易
只要所有香港商戶講明唔做大陸人生意 見一個打一個
仲點會有人去? ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-8-31 09:35
要人趕先走，大陸話來講，咪叫做 Bu Yao Lian 咯
作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-8-31 18:46
要人趕先走，大陸話來講，咪叫做 Bu Yao Lian 咯
imvitasoy 發表於 2012/8/31 16:43
唔趕又做咩要走呢
如果有著數的話
作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-8-31 21:18
But I am not interested in anymore from you
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-31 02:38
其時我有個疑問, 唔知你有無同一個疑問, 就係, 若然阿皮蛋哥咁愛國, 整乜解佢D post, 9成以上都係英文架呢.... 佢唔係應該用正宗殘體字黎同我地"據理力爭"架咩~ 
作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-31 22:44
本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-31 22:48 編輯
回復 MoiRhapsody
你同佢講多哂氣，用左香港個平台cap 咗水，然後話的水係外國來。
不如話天跌落來啦， ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-31 06:42
You cannot deny the fact that it is mostly international money. Your little theory does not work.
When you lost the discussion, you just admit it and move on.
The fact is that the HK stock exchange is international.
International investors invest in stocks listed on HK stock exchange. No one is forcing you to buy any stocks.
Foreign companies like HSBC, Standard Chartered bank, Prada etc are also listed on the HK stock exchange.
International investors are free to participate in all IPOs in Hong Kong as HK stock exchange is international.
HK benefits from Chinese companies listings. That's what make Hk stock exchange big, active and international.
Local HK companies IPOs are relatively small.
International investors, foreign banks and investors like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley and foreign mutual funds, buy Chinese stocks through the HK stock exchange.
HK government benefits from Chinese stock transaction fees and the stamp duty. Jobs are created for accountants, lawyers and the financial industry.
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-1 17:40
其時我有個疑問, 唔知你有無同一個疑問, 就係, 若然阿皮蛋哥咁愛國, 整乜解佢D post, 9成以上都係英文架呢.... 佢唔係應該用正宗殘體字黎同我地"據理力爭"架咩~
呢方面在下完全無疑問喎，佢係練習ESL
去 LSE, Yale 之類的論壇睇下，D鬼邊係咁講嘢㗎
作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-9-1 17:45
回復 84# imvitasoy
true~ 
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-1 19:44
回復 83# peter236
要騙人，先要騙自己，well done，Peter.
作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-1 22:25
回復 86# imvitasoy
Peter 好慘架喇，如果佢唔係太過份，高抬貴手喇…
作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-1 23:02
回復 imvitasoy
Peter 好慘架喇，如果佢唔係太過份，高抬貴手喇…
lo_pak 發表於 2012-9-1 22:25
你講得啱，在下有愧, 感謝指教......
作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-1 23:06
回復 88# imvitasoy
不敢當，不敢當…
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