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作者: loma136    時間: 2012-10-2 22:54     標題: Witness

My colleague involved in a car accident on Sep 20 on Kingsway.  It was not her fault.  An Asian girl drove a Hyundai hit her car.  After pulling over and exchanging information, the girl left the scene first.  That night the girl called my colleague and asked to settle privately.  My colleague said no and prefer reporting to ICBC.  Now the girl told ICBC the other way round that my colleague hit her car and she got a witness.
ICBC told my friend that the girl said my colleague left first and someone got out from a restaurant saw everything and willing to be her witness.
Obviously the witness is the girl's friend.

Unfortunately, my colleague did not find a witness as she thought she did not do anything wrong.  Now she is in a very disadvantaged situation.
I am wondering how ICBC knows if the witness is legitimate and telling the truth.  Any LYK experienced this situation?
作者: 華Dee    時間: 2012-10-2 23:08

你個朋友有無自己報ICBC講返實情呀？點撞法？聽人講如果B車頭同A車尾相撞，一定/9成判B錯。我淨係知呢D皮毛咋。
作者: 大C姐    時間: 2012-10-3 07:51

本帖最後由 大C姐 於 2012-10-3 07:52 編輯

有啲撞法唔係太明顯知道邊個錯，所以一定要第一時間打俾ICBC（第一個打係最著數，你諗吓，邊個緊張啲？俾人撞緊係最緊張點賠償啦）。呢啲case發生唔少次，所以請大家小心！

同埋依家影相咁方便，撞咗之後即時落車影低，唔理咩路面情況，有圖有真相。
作者: B2L2    時間: 2012-10-3 11:21

"第一個打係最著數"..  I doubt that.
作者: shoparound    時間: 2012-10-3 11:27

Did that girl call your colleague's cell phone?  If your colleague has the call records, can that be some evidence of his/her side of the story?
作者: B2L2    時間: 2012-10-3 12:44

Really hard to say what could be done.  Go ask for a copy of their statement and try to find out what is not true and contradicting.  Its like going to court and prove who is a liar.

My brother's friend once had exactly the same thing.  He got hit in an intersection by an Indian.  The other party brought up a witness and said the opposite story.  He end up 100% at fault.

Lesson to learn is to find a witness especially you are not at fault in order to protect yourself.  This thinking is just wrong : "my colleague did not find a witness as she thought she did not do anything wrong."
作者: KittyLeung74    時間: 2012-10-3 13:03

世界看似越來越險惡,人心越來越醜陋,是非黑白何在?
撞人車者還有witness去將事實反過來,良心何在?
人在做,天在看
作者: B2L2    時間: 2012-10-3 13:11

非看似, 是事實
作者: loma136    時間: 2012-10-3 13:12

回復 7# KittyLeung74


Totally agree! Well, my colleague learned a lesson now.  She told everything to ICBC including the call that the gril called her cell phone.  But it cannot prove anything unless she record the conversation.  Anyway, they are checking if there is any relationship between the gril and the witness.  Keep the fingers cross and hope they find something.  Thanks everyone's input!
作者: loma136    時間: 2012-10-3 13:13

回復 7# KittyLeung74


Totally agree! Well, my colleague learned a lesson now.  She told everything to ICBC including the call that the gril called her cell phone.  But it cannot prove anything unless she record the conversation.  Anyway, they are checking if there is any relationship between the gril and the witness.  Keep the fingers cross and hope they find something.  Thanks everyone's input!
作者: 大C姐    時間: 2012-10-3 13:15

"第一個打係最著數"..  I doubt that.
B2L2 發表於 2012-10-3 11:21



    事實勝於雄辯。

就呢個case如果事主先打俾ICBC，對方都未必會得程。當然，唔係話打咗電話就一定嬴，但係一定冇壞囉，that's why我話有著數！
作者: B2L2    時間: 2012-10-3 14:42

本帖最後由 B2L2 於 2012-10-3 14:45 編輯

what's the logic?

When you call in to ICBC, the operator is only there to record down your initial statement.  The operator is not your adjuster and he is not in the position to make any decision.  The operator doesn't care what the statement said.  The adjuster "probably" only open the case after everyone reported.  When you go see the adjuster, you will need to do another detail statement.  The adjuster will be typing in front of you and then ask you to sign that one instead.  Does the adjuster care about who call first?  I really don't think so.
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2012-10-3 15:10

My friend encountered exactly same thing...somehow their "witnesses" come out of nowhere..., in an accident of almost no traffic near by..

My brother's friend once had exactly the same thing.  He got hit in an intersection by an Indian.  The other party brought up a witness and said the opposite story.  He end up 100% at fault.
B2L2 發表於 2012-10-3 12:44
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2012-10-3 15:11

i think it is time to invest at in dash camera...cases like this is getting more common....
作者: B2L2    時間: 2012-10-3 15:14

I heard the Indian has many free floating friends around when they involve in an accident.  Other than my brother's friend case, I heard 3 others all related to Indian.  Just be careful.
作者: loma136    時間: 2012-10-3 19:50

回復 15# B2L2


    我都聽過印度人好齊心，一呼百應！
作者: peter236    時間: 2012-10-3 23:53

    我都聽過印度人好齊心，一呼百應！
loma136 發表於 2012-10-3 19:50


我們也要團結呀.
作者: Look4chrisng    時間: 2012-10-4 08:45

Vancouver is becoming a city of meanies.
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2012-10-4 09:09

齊心都要合法咁用，如果唔係就叫做共犯
回復  B2L2


    我都聽過印度人好齊心，一呼百應！
loma136 發表於 2012-10-3 19:50
作者: KittyLeung74    時間: 2012-10-4 09:26

我們也要團結呀.
peter236 發表於 2012-10-3 23:53


依家就係嗰 Asian girl 同所謂 "witness" 好齊心,講一個非事實的版本,唉 !
作者: blue20ae    時間: 2012-10-4 09:57

我們也要團結呀.
peter236 發表於 2012-10-3 23:53


better yet....我們要誠實.
作者: B2L2    時間: 2012-10-4 10:24

remind me of another cheating case with ICBC like 12 years ago.

One afternoon we went home and find a truck park in front of our house.  No big deal and we didn't pay much attention to it.  During that evening, I heard glass breaking sound from our living room and when I look out, a guy jumped onto a white car flee the scene and drove off.  I went out to check and saw the glass of the truck was broken.  None of our nightbors knows about this truck and we call the police in the next morning.  Police said it was reported as a stolen vehicle and then they came to tow it.

Several weeks passed and I received a call from ICBC asking me all the details.  I told them exactly what I know.  But the end, I was curious and asked what's this case is about.  He said the vehicle was involved in a hit-and-run before it was parked in front of our house.  Police later received the call from the owner saying that it was stolen.

The true story could be the owner hit-n-run then drop off his car, and reported to the police that it was stolen.  He then came back to smash his own window.  Smart but unlucky spotted by me.

I asked the ICBC person what will happened if that's really the case.  He said that there will be no insurance coverage if they could find him cheating and they may bring him to court.

I don't know the final result, but I sure hope ICBC found the truth in this case.  人在做,天在看  that's really true.  On the other hand, ICBC screwed me up one time and I heard enough bad story dealing with ICBC.  It is really no fun dealing with them.
作者: loma136    時間: 2012-10-4 18:35

回復 22# B2L2

哈哈，天網恢恢疏而不漏!
作者: Prelude    時間: 2012-10-4 21:31

I have a suggestion after reading this thread.
Let's use the video recording on the phone.  Hiddenly record the conversation, and lead them to commit the fault and then kindly let them know it's recorded.
Don't leave first, and keep recording until they leave to prove that they don't have witness.



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