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作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-14 04:14     標題: 一人一信 - 阻止韓國成為立法開放食用狗肉的國家

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韓國動保團體尋求亞洲社會協助
一人一信給韓國新任總統　阻止韓國成為立法開放食用狗肉的國家

2008.04.08
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被塞滿在籠子裡，等待被運送販賣宰殺的各種犬隻

今年3月24日，韓國首都--首爾市政府對外發表了「狗肉衛生管理政策」，將「狗」列為家畜項目，並預計在4月份韓國國會大選結束，於5月舉辦相關聽證程序後，隨即向中央政府提議修改「畜產品加工處理法」，正式立法將狗納入畜產食用項目。為此，韓國動保團體曾於3月25日、26日集結在首爾市政廳前表達強烈抗議。

多年來致力教育韓國民眾不要將狗當作「肉用動物」的當地動保組織，眼見局勢岌岌可危，除了不斷在國內施壓及抗議外，並緊急求助亞洲社會，希望如台灣、泰國曼谷、馬尼拉等已立法禁止食用狗貓肉的國家，以及沒有食用狗貓肉問題的新加坡、日本、印度……等，能共同向韓國政府及社會發聲，請韓國政府千萬不要做出錯誤的決策，讓人類文明發展後退！
台灣動物社會研究會（EAST）、犬髖關節狗友會、倡導禁吃狗肉並推動立法成功的立法委員王幸男、田秋菫與來台為同伴動物尋求聲援的兩個韓國動保組織─維護地球動物權益協會（CARE）、韓國動物保護聯盟（KAAP），於4月8日上午10點在NGO會館共同召開記者會，會中公佈韓國慘不忍睹的飼養、販賣及屠殺狗的影片及相片；維護地球動物權益協會（CARE）代表朴素妍說：韓國的肉狗飼養繁殖場，環境髒亂不堪，狗的食物來源是廚餘及發霉的麵包，一般公狗在被飼養七個月後就被販售屠宰，而母狗則會被配種繁殖個2-3胎後被屠宰。許多農場為了制止狗警戒吠叫的天性，在狗小的時候，會用針刺狗的耳朵，以破壞狗的聽力，如此就可避免狗因警戒而吠叫。此外，由於狗有空間領域性，為了防止狗爭吵，從飼養到運輸到市場販售的鐵籠，都可以看到狗被強塞到幾乎無法動彈，許多狗甚至被凹折成「U」字型的塞入鐵籠內！而不只土狗被做為肉用，就連約克夏、可卡、馬爾濟斯等小型犬也被拿來食用。一般一隻狗從農場販賣出來的價格大約為3-5萬韓元（約台幣1500元），在被屠宰賣到市場後，一斤肉約可賣到1700韓元（約台幣60元），而一整隻大黃狗則可以賣到15-20萬韓幣（約台幣6700元）！
  
狗的領域性非常強。為了防止狗爭吵或互咬，在運輸時，業者需將鐵籠塞滿狗，讓牠們動彈不得。幾乎每隻狗都被塞成「U」字形！  目前韓國狗肉一斤約可賣到1700韓元（約台幣60元），一整隻大黃狗則可以賣到15-20萬韓幣（約台幣6700元）。
  
消費者在市場上「挑狗肉」。  代宰犬隻籠子上，放著兩隻狗屠體。對具有靈性的犬科動物而言，是多大的折磨？。
  
兩隻被宰殺烤焦的土狗。  飼養過程中，狗幾乎沒有活動空間。
  
人類的肉類蛋白質來源已經很足夠，不久前的SARS疫情，正是人類意慾擴大肉食對象所招致的危機！不論從任何角度來說，「飲食文化」已不是要將狗立法成為肉用動物可被國際社會接受的藉口！
朴素妍並說：1984年時，首爾市有關狗肉的法規，明文記載著─狗肉是不潔的食物，所以禁止流通販售；但一直以來，首爾市對不法販售狗肉的業者並沒有執法取締，任其發展的結果導致業者更加猖獗，每年約屠殺200萬隻狗，首爾市府實在難辭其咎。但現在為了要規避責任，竟乾脆主張將販售狗肉合法化，實在是荒謬可惡。韓國新任總統李明博ㄧ上台便強調政策的全球化，但在面對狗肉問題時，卻退化到未開化的原始時代。目前韓國約有1千萬人口將狗視為伴侶飼養，若政府真的將狗納為食用家畜，不僅將造成更多虐待動物案件，更是全世界絕無僅有的立法，也將在國際形象上讓韓國人蒙羞，甚至可能帶來貿易、經濟上的損失。

韓國動物保護聯盟代表李元福也說：當前人類的環境，不論是牛肉、豬肉、雞肉，都面臨狂牛症、口蹄疫、立百病毒、禽流感……等各式人畜共通疾病的威脅，韓國刻正面臨嚴重禽流感疫情失控問題，在現有肉類食品的安全都已亮起紅燈的狀況下，認為狗肉只要宰殺過程衛生乾淨即可安心食用的想法真是大錯特錯！因此不論從疾病預防、健康風險以及尊重生命的角度，韓國政府都應即刻制定禁止食用及販售狗肉的政策，同時採輔導方式，逐步讓狗肉產業式微！
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-14 10:03

its other countries's issue, and its none of your business as long as they are not eating human

also, if they stop eating dog/cat, I wonder how much will the price for regular meats(beef, pork, lamb) rise
作者: Traum    時間: 2008-4-14 10:57

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作者: zoids    時間: 2008-4-14 12:02

Cats and dogs are not endangered animal like whales.  It's their culture and I don't see any problem as long as the killing method is fast and painless.  And this is from a cat lover who had cats since the day he was born till just 4 years ago.

If you want to protect animals, you should put your focus on Japan eating whales and dolphins or Chinese eating endangered species.  All the cats I had before were picked up from HK street.  They obviously were dumped by irresponsible people and I often see some of them got run by cars or suffered from disease.  Now tell me what is worse?

Heck, have you heard about Tuna is going to be extinct soon?  Shouldn't you protect tunas first if this is the case.  Don't jump on some bandwagon issue because they are cute or romanticized.
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-14 22:23     標題: 回復 3# 的帖子

why dont u look at the images of the inhumane breeding and killing? maybe that will answer ur ****en question
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-14 22:24     標題: 回復 2# 的帖子

wait till they cannot find another type of animal to eat, they'l eat u first fuhckhead
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-14 22:36     標題: 回復 4# 的帖子

the koreans eating dog is much worse than whatever ur bullshlting about. why dont u actually read the article on how they breed, stack them up into 1 cage and fuicking hang them or skin them or whatever? why dont u have a fuicken look before wasting 5 minutes of ur ****enn time typing up that bullshlt

waste a ****en mouse click, wont kill u

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作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-14 22:40

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-14 22:36 發表
the koreans eating dog is much worse than whatever ur bullshlting about. why dont u actually read the article on how they breed, stack them up into 1 cage and fuicking hang them or skin them or whatev ...


u know how do the Chinese eat dogs?
u know how do the Canadian use some axe-like weapons to kill the baby animals for their skin?

unless u are vegetarian, otherwise I don't think u have power to ask people to stop eating this or eating that
don't be racism here, OK?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-14 22:42

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-14 22:24 發表
wait till they cannot find another type of animal to eat, they'l eat u first fuhckhead


when dogs want to bite people, they never have any mercy
and please Clean up your language la, 愛心家
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-14 22:46

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-14 22:42 發表


when dogs want to bite people, they never have any mercy
and please Clean up your language la, 愛心家


what on earth are u even on about? ur totally off the topic. geez wtf. yeh the dogs can fuicken bite u to death first. READ u Fuicking illiterate cantonese fiuck

EDIT: ur not an animal lover, so why the hell are u in this animal forum. FUICK OFF

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作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-14 22:51

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-14 22:46 發表


what on earth are u even on about? ur totally off the topic. geez wtf. yeh the dogs can fuicken bite u to death first. READ u Fuicking illiterate cantonese fiuck

EDIT: ur not an animal lover, so wh ...


I dont eat dogs and cats cos I have to admit that they are cute but I don't think there is any problem for Korean to eat dogs cos its none of your business

wahhahaha, good luck
good luck, maybe your next step is
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-14 22:51

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-14 22:40 發表


u know how do the Chinese eat dogs?
u know how do the Canadian use some axe-like weapons to kill the baby animals for their skin?

unless u are vegetarian, otherwise I don't think u have power to as ...


there are already alot of protest and petitions about the unlawful killing of baby seal, why dont u spend some time looking it up fuickhead
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-14 22:53

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-14 22:51 發表


I dont eat dogs and cats cos I have to admit that they are cute but I don't think there is any problem for Korean to eat dogs cos its none of your business

wahhahaha, good luck
good luck, ma ...


ok so why did u say theres a problem for eating dogs at china? isnt china and korea in the same situation. just waste a mouse click on the website idiot
作者: Traum    時間: 2008-4-14 22:56

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作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-14 23:00

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-14 22:53 發表


ok so why did u say theres a problem for eating dogs at china? isnt china and korea in the same situation. just waste a mouse click on the website idiot


There maybe some problem with how they treat the dogs before kill those dogs but I didnt say there is problem for eating dogs in China.
you know, u have to make sure they are clean (rid of disease/parasites). if they can sure that they can keep the dog/cat meats clean. No other people can do anything about it
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-14 23:24

Why eating cat and dog are none of your business while eating human is? Provided that only people agree others to eat them, if you don't agree other people won't come eat you.

If to say eating cat and dog make no difference from eating cow and pig, why there is a difference to eat dolphin and whale? Provided that the slaughtering progress is quick and painless.

If to say we only shouldn't eat endangered species (no matter how the slaughtering progress is), then why shouldn't we eat human for this could be the most over populated species in the world?

I don't get it... !
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-14 23:31

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-14 23:24 發表
Why eating cat and dog are none of your business while eating human is? Provided that only people agree others to eat them, if you don't agree other people won't come eat you.

If to say eating cat an ...


u dont get it?
its ok
people said good people do good thing and will have 好結果
but is it true? yeah I am a bit off topic but the world is illogical

in the world, when animal A encounter animal B, who will be the other's food is depend on who is stronger, no mercy, no moral
again, if u put a guy into the pool with a big white or put a guy into a circle of 圍欄 with a big hungry dog, do u think they will have mercy to us?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-14 23:34

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-14 23:24 發表
If to say eating cat and dog make no difference from eating cow and pig, why there is a difference to eat dolphin and whale? Provided that the slaughtering progress is quick and painless.


there is no differences unless the species is an endanger species
but don't misunderstood it, scientist suggest not to eat endanger species are NOT because they think human should have mercy to those species. Instead, they just think that if more and more species extincted, we will get hurt
作者: Traum    時間: 2008-4-14 23:46

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作者: daimo    時間: 2008-4-14 23:50

簡單.  

貓和狗都可以和人類建立信任, 友誼和感情.  雞鴨鵝鱼虾蟹牛羊可以嗎? 至少我感受不到.  猪可以嗎? 或者得.  但我只在電影中見過.  好似前排有人問, 點解唔可憐埋d沅熊, 我只可以說, 我冇本事同佢地交朋友.  佢地都冇興趣.   

我點餓, 都唔会吃我的朋友.

吃貓和狗, 就像是吃我的朋友.   

對了, 狗發惡會咬人, 猫也抓人, 但同我應該不應該食佢地有啥関係?

到貓貓狗狗板問人為甚麽"不可以" 吃貓和狗, 又或 就像去汽車板問人點解"不可以"搭巴士.  不是見解獨到, 而是無厘頭; 其中的自我中心, 也令人感到無奈.  若果看成是一個哲學討論, 那勞煩請移玉步到聊天板.  云云眾生, 問為何我們不去拯救甚麽饑民病童而獨愛動物, 我只可說我等塵緣猫狗緣未了, 點不化了.

p.s.  與其只停留在"可以不可以"的問題, 不如想想仲有"應該不應該"和"需要不需要"的思考層面.
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-15 00:10

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-14 22:56 發表

Dude, read what your argument is then -- it has absolutely nothing to do with eating cats and dogs. Rather, you are protesting about the way the animals are treated before they are slaughtered.

If t ...


ok ok, let me narrow this down, im only trying to answer the question u previously posted.

As long as the raising and slaughtering processes are reasonable, what is the difference?


the problem is that raising and slaughtering methods are inhumane, so what would happen if the they legalized dog meat? more and more dogs will be killed. Have u not seen the dogs' living conditions and methods of slaughter by hanging? not only hanging is done but there are more unimaginable inhumane methods of killing these dogs. like boiling them alive. is that a painless or reasonable method of killing? NO

SUMMARY

OK
Raising method - not reasonable (they are fed decayed bread and kitchen waste(餿水), several dogs fenced in 1 small area and the "farmers" do not clean their wastes)

Slaughtering Method - hanging to death. (u can argue its a painless method). what about other unimaginable killing methods? boiling alive in water?

Currently 2 million dogs are killed every year.

Cause - probably 10 million dogs will be treateed like that in the above few statements.

im sure that fully answers ur previous question

are u chinese? can u actually read what it says on the article? try spending 10 minutes reading it before talking to me
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 00:14

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-4-14 23:50 發表
簡單.  

貓和狗都可以和人類建立信任, 友誼和感情.  雞鴨鵝鱼虾蟹牛羊可以嗎? 至少我感受不到.  猪可以嗎? 或者得.  但我只在電影中見過.  好似前排有人問, 點解唔可憐埋d沅熊, 我只可以說, 我冇本事同佢地交朋友.  ...



你有問過的貓同狗(用佢地明白既語言)佢地真係當你朋友?
有野俾佢地食o米朋友o羅
豬既智商都唔差﹐有的人仲養豬做pets, 係米又要戒食豬?
我細過養過雞仔﹐佢地唔知點解都成日痴/跟住我先安樂﹐o甘證明家禽都有感情﹐
係米又要戒食雞?
用腦想o下﹐如果個個人都轉食非狗/貓animal
要殺幾多其他animal先夠個 meat market?

我覺得﹐要麼 就mud野 meats 都唔好食﹐要麼就唔好o甘唔公平﹐見o的貓貓狗狗懂
搖"hud" 憐就扮人道

家陣豬牛羊海鮮樣"須"有罪架?
作者: makten    時間: 2008-4-15 00:21

Wow...I have no idea we have members that are this hostile here...
While the person who started this post had a good intention of raising our awareness of slaughtering dogs and eating them...the way he/she brought it out was way too extreme...You can't just come in and start lashing out at people who don't agree with you...especially when you're being extremely disrespectful to the members...

As a dog lover myself, I can't stand people eating dogs....but what can I say...we're just saying we should not eat dogs and cats because we live in a society that regards dogs and cats only as pets and not an animal for us to consume...Unless we grew up in Korean cultures or cultures that supports eating these animals, i don't think we have the rights to force people to stop consuming them, simply because we don't stand on the same ground...
This is just like how middle east are used to having male being the superior and causes discrimination against women, this is caused by their religion and culture...we can't really do anything about it even though we see this kinda stuff as a problem...

Oh yeah...I've had horse meat and venison before...I'm not proud of it and to be honest I thought that wasn't a good idea to have tried it too...but that pretty much puts me on the same spot as dog eaters (to horse lovers maybe)...I think this kinda issue is really affected by what perspective you use...

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作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-15 00:35

原帖由 makten 於 2008-4-15 00:21 發表
Wow...I have no idea we have members that are this hostile here...
While the person who started this post had a good intention of raising our awareness of slaughtering dogs and eating them...the way h ...


would u say that its a culture for eating dogs. just because they almost starved to death during the korean war, thus they had to kill their family pet in order to survive, does not make it a culture. that is clearly their excuse for eating dogs, not a culture

Yet, they talk about eating dogs will give more male virility, but there are no scientific records of it.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 00:42

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-15 00:35 發表


would u say that its a culture for eating dogs. just because they almost starved to death during the korean war, thus they had to kill their family pet in order to survive, does not make it a cultur ...


挑起戰爭o米係呢種人羅
係o甘將自己既value壓落其他人度

你有本事既話, u can talk to the presidents of N and S Korea and try to convince them not to eat dogs

我自己唔會食貓狗﹐因為覺得殘忍同dirty
但我唔食係我既事﹐無端端要人地成個民族就你班外國人﹐ 跟本就講唔通

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作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-15 01:22     標題: To everyone

ok let me put it in another perspective

if u have realised where SARS originated from, u should understand it was from civet cats that were killed and eaten in Guangdong. This has being officially stated by scientific experiments and analysing, not a bullshlt i'm trying to make up. So what is the chances of another big spread of viruses from dogs (not to mention 狂吠病 already exists in the eastern world) that are eaten in Korea. VERY HIGH.

so wouldn't eating these dogs affect the whole world? not just for the dog lovers but also for, if another big spread of virus, should annihilate a few several thousands of innocent people.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-15 01:31

I said I don't get it because all the answers are just ridiculous!
Why there is an excuse to eat cat and dog, because they may get a chance to feel no mercy on human and hurt us? Then why human eat pig and rabbit, I never see they do anything harming us?!
Why need to compare human to other animals? Why if other animals may/will hurt or eat us and so we can have the right to eat them first? Animals don't have a human brain to think of all these, but why human want to think like animals? If there is no side effect, human can eat human? Don't talk about law, eating cat and dog is illegal in many countries but still legal in some countries. So that means if eating human becomes legal in one country, people would accept that and more and more countries would set it legal?
Human just being selfish, they have different excuse to do things. That's all!
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-15 01:57

"無端端要人地成個民族就你班外國人﹐ 跟本就講唔通"
Well, then why 藏獨 issue a matter of other countries, even affecting Olympic?
作者: katamari    時間: 2008-4-15 02:48

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-15 00:14 發表



你有問過的貓同狗(用佢地明白既語言)佢地真係當你朋友?
有野俾佢地食o米朋友o羅
豬既智商都唔差﹐有的人仲養豬做pets, 係米又要戒食豬?
我細過養過雞仔﹐佢地唔知點解都成日痴/跟住我先安樂﹐o甘證明家禽都有感情﹐
係米 ...


你有問過的貓同狗()佢地真係當你朋友? 有野俾佢地食o米朋友o羅你有用佢地明白既語言talk過佢地答你？
豬既智商都唔差﹐有的人仲養豬做pets, 係米又要戒食豬? 應該呀
我細過養過雞仔﹐佢地唔知點解都成日痴/跟住我先安樂﹐o甘證明家禽都有感情﹐
係米又要戒食雞?你應該呀
用腦想o下﹐如果個個人都轉食非狗/貓animal
要殺幾多其他animal先夠個 meat market? 貓狗肉都唔夠係咪食人肉都要先?

我覺得﹐要麼 就mud野 meats 都唔好食﹐要麼就唔好o甘唔公平﹐見o的貓貓狗狗懂
搖"hud" 憐就扮人道 貓狗冇搖尾乞憐，係呢Ｄ係人既language
作者: makten    時間: 2008-4-15 03:20

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-15 00:35 發表


would u say that its a culture for eating dogs. just because they almost starved to death during the korean war, thus they had to kill their family pet in order to survive, does not make it a cultur ...

you know...it does make it a culture over a period of time...Please be aware that culture includes BOTH what people think as immoral or moral...
Why do you think the Chinese eat so much animal intestines?  People ate what they could find in order to survive...since they got used to eating it, it became a part of Chinese culture that people eat intestines even after the starvation period was over...
Note that I'm not saying what they are doing is right...I just want to say that we can't always judge what is moral or immoral about another culture...

and seriously...you're becoming quite an extremist on this issue...people can't really discuss the issue with you if you keep on using harsh languages

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作者: pigheadbone    時間: 2008-4-15 06:49

There are cultures in the world that don't eat cows, and there are cultures in the world that don't eat pigs.  Likewise, western worlds don't eat cats and dogs.  If we force other cultures to follow our standards, I think that's just being barbaric.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 07:00

原帖由 katamari 於 2008-4-15 02:48 發表


你有問過的貓同狗()佢地真係當你朋友? 有野俾佢地食o米朋友o羅你有用佢地明白既語言talk過佢地答你？
豬既智商都唔差﹐有的人仲養豬做pets, 係米又要戒食豬? 應該呀
我細過養過雞仔﹐佢地唔知點解都成日痴/跟住我先安樂﹐o ...


did u hear the old people mention about what they eat during wars?
u said 應該戒食豬 or chicken. Good,  u go ahead, but don't force other people to follow you, unless your idol is George Bush
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 07:02

原帖由 pigheadbone 於 2008-4-15 06:49 發表
There are cultures in the world that don't eat cows, and there are cultures in the world that don't eat pigs.  Likewise, western worlds don't eat cats and dogs.  If we force other cultures to follow o ...


thats the point
作者: Traum    時間: 2008-4-15 08:50

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作者: SAZABI    時間: 2008-4-15 09:36

I am totally against eating dog/cat personally, but I won't go against other people doing so.  If the animals are farmed and the killing procedure is "reasonable", then yeah...
作者: katamari    時間: 2008-4-15 11:33

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-15 07:00 發表


did u hear the old people mention about what they eat during wars?
u said 應該戒食豬 or chicken. Good,  u go ahead, but don't force other people to follow you, unless your idol is George Bush ...


I was just replying for post cuz your questions had been ignored, forcing you? forcing you what I don't get it man
作者: katamari    時間: 2008-4-15 11:38

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-15 08:50 發表

而且，狗肉亦有香肉之稱，淨係從個名就可以想像一個煲仔狗肉鍋有幾好味。，又有乜野問題呢？.....


嬰兒湯都好補，你快追尋口舌之福啦
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 11:39

原帖由 katamari 於 2008-4-15 11:33 發表


I was just replying for post cuz your questions had been ignored, forcing you? forcing you what I don't get it man



u dont get it?
gee, I dont get what u are saying either
I thought u are one of those people who want to force other people to use the same moral standard/values about treating animals. Aren't u?

Japanese eat whales/dolphin
Korean eat dogs
Chinese eat....any wild animals
we eat pork, beef, lamb, chicken, duck, seafood
what are the diff?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 11:41

原帖由 katamari 於 2008-4-15 11:38 發表


嬰兒湯都好補，你快追尋口舌之福啦



u are making your comment naive
when we start discussing this issue, there is an implicit assumption that the deadlne is, we can eat anything but danger species or human. I dunno about other members, but thats my rule
作者: Traum    時間: 2008-4-15 12:12

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作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-15 12:57

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-15 12:12 發表

lol~ But this is clearly immoral in any culture la. Please use a more appropriate example, my friend.

Now, if it were 紫荷車 (human placenta), that would be a different matter. In Chinese medic ...

You mean you don't treat 紫荷車 related to human species so eating it is OK? Whao......
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 13:12

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-15 12:57 發表

You mean you don't treat 紫荷車 related to human species so eating it is OK? Whao......


why suprised?
as long as it is disease free, why not?
come on~~
it is listed in ancient Chinese medicine dictionary
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-15 13:17

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-15 13:12 發表


why suprised?
as long as it is disease free, why not?
come on~~
it is listed in ancient Chinese medicine dictionary

I meant, someone said this is a moral issue more than health ar mah, that's why human shouldn't eat human. But isn't 紫荷車 kinda human thingy? Why someone thinks eating human infant is a problem but 紫荷車 not? I don't understand lor.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 13:20

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-15 13:17 發表

I meant, someone said this is a moral issue more than health ar mah, that's why human shouldn't eat human. But isn't 紫荷車 kinda human thingy? Why someone thinks eating human infant is a problem but ...


紫荷車 is only a "tissue", not even an organ. After the baby is borned, it is no used to either the mom or the child.
but there is no real truely OBJECTIVE reason, its just the matter of u can stand for it or not

by the way, if u can't distinguish eating 紫荷車 and eating an INFANT/BABY, I don't think we can discuss any further

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作者: zoids    時間: 2008-4-15 16:03

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-14 22:36 發表
the koreans eating dog is much worse than whatever ur bullshlting about. why dont u actually read the article on how they breed, stack them up into 1 cage and fuicking hang them or skin them or whatev ...


I believe legalizing dogs/cats eating will help the Korea gov't to establish laws to protect rights of those animals.  That's why I didn't send out my email.

BTW, by adding the f-words, I am sure you do think your argument is more valid now?  NOT.

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作者: siumaibb    時間: 2008-4-15 16:40

I wonder if Korean keep dogs as pet?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 17:11

代宰犬隻籠子上，放著兩隻狗屠體。對具有靈性的犬科動物而言，是多大的折磨？


actually in general, mammals have 靈性 (or emotion)
why there are not many people go protesting for eating mammal's meat?

Thats stupid
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-15 17:32

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-4-15 15:50 發表
簡單.  

貓和狗都可以和人類建立信任, 友誼和感情.  雞鴨鵝鱼虾蟹牛羊可以嗎? 至少我感受不到.  猪可以嗎? 或者得.  但我只在電影中見過.  好似前排有人問, 點解唔可憐埋d沅熊, 我只可以說, 我冇本事同佢地交朋友.  ...


可能你唔信, 小弟細個既時候曾經同小雞"吱吱"同小鴨"ap ap"建立左兩段深厚既友誼, 直到我有一日放學之後突然見唔到佢地為止...
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 17:39

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-15 17:32 發表


可能你唔信, 小弟細個既時候曾經同小雞"吱吱"同小鴨"ap ap"建立左兩段深厚既友誼, 直到我有一日放學之後突然見唔到佢地為止...


similar experiences
they might think that I was their parents
its funny, they will follow me when I walking away from them and have 吱吱 sound. its like asking me to wait for them
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-15 17:39

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 05:17 發表

I meant, someone said this is a moral issue more than health ar mah, that's why human shouldn't eat human. But isn't 紫荷車 kinda human thingy? Why someone thinks eating human infant is a problem but ...


乜你唔知道中藥舖既"紫荷車"十個有九個都唔係人類既胎盤咩?.........
唔信你去問下中醫喇.
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-4-15 18:45     標題: 回復 34# 的帖子

"what's the difference?"

是你問的.

"吃貓和狗, 就像是吃我的朋友.   "

是我的答案.  

"To me, it is purely a personal choice "

這点我同意.

咁 Intax rally for a petition 又有何問題?  is it NOT a personal choice?

佢又唔係發動甚麼武力威迫去迫中國韓國, 一人一信, 合情合法, 有咩問題?  難道唔夠民主?


我個 personal choice 就係 support 一人一信 - 阻止韓國成為立法開放食用狗肉的國家.


當然, 你可以不同意.


"... old debate ..."


愛貓愛狗係感性行為, 揾人debate吃貓狗? 根本冇人想去debate甚麽. 你自己都話 personal choice, 咁拗乜?
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-4-15 18:51

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-15 17:32 發表


可能你唔信, 小弟細個既時候曾經同小雞"吱吱"同小鴨"ap ap"建立左兩段深厚既友誼, 直到我有一日放學之後突然見唔到佢地為止...


如果係你親手宰的, 我冇野講. 如果宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人都同佢地建立過兩段深厚既友誼, 咁我只可說, 好彩我同宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人冇任何友誼.
作者: Traum    時間: 2008-4-15 19:03

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作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-15 20:17

人地個國家既人又無殺人放火﹐人地食mud,關你鬼事o羊。
要人地個國家o既人聽你支笛﹐你估你係邊個呀? 家陣布殊上身呀?
我覺得甘樣針對某個國家既人/政府黎鬧﹐跟本就係搞屎棍既行為
擺到明就係個樓主同埋個網既發起人係的狗既愛心主人啦
我俾你搵到全球9成人sign左又點
人類既性格係越受逼壓反抗力就越大﹐整個亞洲好多國家都有食非西方主流既肉食﹐
反完Korea 又反中國﹐再反日本(dolphins)。呢個世界已經多仇恨﹐我話你信既宗
教唔好﹐你又話我政治理念不好。家陣連人地食mud畜牲都要管??管惦自己架拿大東
岸個的 furs 先啦~~
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-15 21:19

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-15 17:39 發表


乜你唔知道中藥舖既"紫荷車"十個有九個都唔係人類既胎盤咩?.........
唔信你去問下中醫喇.

Oh come on! I'm not going to argue whether how genuine the 紫荷車 will be if you get from Chinese drug stores, just like you think you go to a restaurant for dog meat but actually they give you beef or lamb! That's not my question. What I try to say is, how to compare eating an actual infant, human 紫荷車, and human tissues (for example human skin)? If eating an actual infant is immoral (not concerning health issues), how about human tissues? Only because an infant has real life but human tissue doesn't so eating human tissue is not immoral?
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-15 22:16

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-4-16 10:51 發表


如果係你親手宰的, 我冇野講. 如果宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人都同佢地建立過兩段深厚既友誼, 咁我只可說, 好彩我同宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人冇任何友誼.

當殺死"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人係你既親人既話, 而你當時又只係一個十歲都唔夠既小朋友, 你就唔會咁講架喇.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-15 22:24

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 13:19 發表

Oh come on! I'm not going to argue whether how genuine the 紫荷車 will be if you get from Chinese drug stores, just like you think you go to a restaurant for dog meat but actually they give you beef  ...

what kind of human tissue would you like to eat?....................
Eating human tissue? I may eat my 倒刺 on my fingers...
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-16 00:11     標題: To everyone

ok im gnona leave this forum for u guyz are debate

and no, the korean govt would legalize dog meat, the farmers aren't gonna treat them any different than before otherwise they are wasting way too much money idiot.

and if u realised that the time u guyz spent here bullshlting, already 10000 dogs have being killed in these 2 days. so yeh, guyz have fun bullshlting, im leaving this fuicking hongkongese fuicken forum.

P.S. just wait till another virus comes out and wipe all u fuickheads
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 00:13

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-15 22:24 發表

what kind of human tissue would you like to eat?....................
Eating human tissue? I may eat my 倒刺 on my fingers...

Someone said 紫荷車 is just a dead human tissue ar mah, and feeling good to eat it, not me ar.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 00:14

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-16 00:11 發表
ok im gnona leave this forum for u guyz are debate

and no, the korean govt would legalize dog meat, the farmers aren't gonna treat them any different than before otherwise they are wasting way too mu ...


what? racism again?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 00:18

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 00:13 發表

Someone said 紫荷車 is just a dead human tissue ar mah, and feeling good to eat it, not me ar.


I still don't get whats wrong with it and whats wrong with u!!!
u can't distinguish eating a baby and eating a 紫荷車???
and are u talking about a LIVING baby? if so, sorry, you are just dumb and cold blood. The dog-eaters are angels with compare to u (again, this is based on if you are talking about eating a baby)
eating 紫荷車 can be beneficial to some people (based on some FORMAL chinese med dictionary), can u find eating a baby can heal any disease?
作者: Traum    時間: 2008-4-16 00:22

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作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 01:10

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-16 00:18 發表


I still don't get whats wrong with it and whats wrong with u!!!
u can't distinguish eating a baby and eating a 紫荷車???
and are u talking about a LIVING baby? if so, sorry, you are just dumb and co ...

Cool down, chunsh,
First, it's not me to initiate that "紫荷車 is only dead human tissue", right?
Second, someone asked me if I like to eat any "human tissue", and I answered that it's not me interested in eating any of it, am I wrong?
What made you getting mad at?

Let me elaborate a little more, some of us think eating animals including cats and dogs is not cruel and immoral, but only the way that slaughtering them will. While I think it's not only the slaughtering way that judged to be cruel or not, but the whole concept of eating certain kinds of animals is. For example, why eating dolphin is cruel if the slaughtering way is fast and painless? Then extend to eating human as an example, no matter in which way you slaughter a person and eat him/her, it's still cruel, right? Then comes to 紫荷車, which previously a human baby was living in there and actually 紫荷車 is part of human body, that's why I think eating it is still count as a cruel act.

People are inborn selfish, especially Chinese (... I think). Chinese people eat almost all kinds of animals such as lion, tiger, monkey (monkey brain), cat, dog, and many other kinds of wild animals and believe that it's somewhat good to health and have certain different 補身 effect. Yeah yeah... what an excuse! I really don't see how 補身 it is for eating cat and dog, which can't find any other substitution.

If I treat my dog as my family member and so I won't eat him/her, and extend that I won't eat other dogs.
If I treat my rock cod in my fish tank my family member and so I won't eat him/her, and extend that I won't eat other rock cods.
If you treat 紫荷車 nothing related to a human but just dead tissue, you may feel OK to eat it.
But how if the 紫荷車 comes from your own family member, would you still feel OK to eat it? Or you just eat other people's 紫荷車?
But after all, it's surely a personal choice.

Of course I won't and actually I can't force other people to eat or not to eat cat and dog. It's their personal choice. However, deep in my heart I will surely hate people who eat cat and dog, and of course that's only my personal choice for hating those people, which is not a business to others.
Hope I have made myself clear enough this time.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 01:17

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-16 00:28 發表
鹹蛋超人兄，

我諗你要檢查下你既視力或者理解能力喇。紫荷車係中藥，明文規定有藥用療效，我又幾時有講過佢好食呢？ 當然，如果個人病，而紫荷車又係隻合適既藥，咁食左就梗係會 feel good 啦～

-力 ...

Did you misunderstand anything? I never say you said 紫荷車 "taste" good, my meaning of that "good" actually meant 藥用療效.

But in fact, many Chinese believe every "edible" thing has different 藥用 or 補身療效 ga la! Even bear paw and monkey brain. Maybe one day they believe that eating their parents and off-springs is good to their own health too, who knows? Then what is the moral standard for eating what kind of thing is immoral and cruel but eating what is not?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 01:18

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 01:10 發表

Cool down, chunsh,
First, it's not me to initiate that "紫荷車 is only dead human tissue", right?
Second, someone asked me if I like to eat any "human tissue", and I answered that it's not me interes ...


so u think killing a sheep or a pig is not cruel?
well anyways, its your choice
in my point of view, I would say either be mercy to ALL animals and no meats, or otherwise, be a T-REX that eat any meat (ok, except for human) that are legal in where I am living!
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 01:19

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 01:17 發表 [url=http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=26618&ptid=2811]Even bear paw and monkey brain


please quote

I dont think monkey brain do good to health as it is so high in cholesterol
作者: intax    時間: 2008-4-16 02:42

Korea and China - 當國家的科技經濟發達，而政府人民道德水準還沒到那裡的時候，是會自取毀滅的
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 08:06

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-16 02:42 發表
Korea and China - 當國家的科技經濟發達，而政府人民道德水準還沒到那裡的時候，是會自取毀滅的



食狗肉就係"道德水準還沒到那裡"?
幾新派既言論wor

應該話人地唔應同你既value, 就話人地不道德
看來﹐Bush 都有向你學野既需要
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 10:19

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-16 01:18 發表


so u think killing a sheep or a pig is not cruel?
well anyways, its your choice
in my point of view, I would say either be mercy to ALL animals and no meats, or otherwise, be a T-REX that eat any me ...

You didn't get my point.
I mean if you treat an animal your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
So, if you treat your pig/sheep as your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
By the majority, I guess most people treat cat and dog as their close friend and family member, so if they seeing other people eating those animals will feel sad and it's cruel to them.
On the other hand, most people don't treat pig and sheep and cow their friends/family member, so people eating them don't feel that sad and it's not cruel to them.

The key point is how people treat the animal, not love some kinds of animal but not the other. Got it?
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 10:23

Another example, I guess the majority of people are having opposite sex love/marriage. So most people would feel embarrass, uncomfortable or even disgusting to see other people having same sex love/marriage. However, it doesn't necessary mean who is right and who is wrong, it's just their personal choice. Why there is so much noise? All because of "majority repels minority" lor. And as I said, this is the 社會景像, nothing to do with "right or wrong".
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 10:41

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 10:19 發表

You didn't get my point.
I mean if you treat an animal your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
So, if you treat your pig/sheep as your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
By the majorit ...


so why do u and intrex complain?
seems like Koren and some Chiense treat dogs as meat, and they are not eating your dog(s) anyways

anyways ,killing is curel, this is the fact, family member or not
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-4-16 10:45

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-15 19:03 發表
Daimo兄，

既然你都同意食唔食貓狗只係個人決定，而唔係D咩壞事，咁又有乜咁大須要去勞師動眾，叫咁多人去信來作出反對呢？ 殘忍同不公允既係飼養同屠宰既環境同做法，要反對唔係應該反對呢兩樣野咩？將D精力徙左響D無乜意思既地 ...



For the same logic, then 咁多人去信來作出反對 /same sex marriage/legalize smoking pot/ ... etc etc  was also a mood point since it's 個人決定.

"將D精力徙左響D無乜意思" ... that's again your personal value and opinion.  I see it's more of you guys trying to preach your values to the cats/dogs lovers.

If it's 無謂/無乜意思 then why are you spending hours preaching in the Pet's forum!?

For the cats/dogs lovers, it's 壞事 to eat cats/dogs and not 無謂/無乜意思.  period.

Of course, you are entitled to your very own opinion.  and I won't comment that as  無謂/無乜意思.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 10:48

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-4-16 10:45 發表

"將D精力徙左響D無乜意思" ... that's again your personal value and opinion.  I see it's more of you guys trying to preach your values to the cats/dogs lovers.


wahaha
at least no one here request 一人一信 - 阻止 some dog lovers to do "一人一信 - 阻止韓國成為立法開放食用狗肉的國家"

who is pushing who?
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 10:50

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-16 10:41 發表


so why do u and intrex complain?
seems like Koren and some Chiense treat dogs as meat, and they are not eating your dog(s) anyways

anyways ,killing is curel, this is the fact, family member or not ...

To certain people, such as gardeners and plant lovers, they think killing a plant is cruel too. So, human shouldn't even alive/exist? I just tell you how most people feel, which you can have your choice to face this fact or not. I'm not convincing you to sign that letter. Actually I didn't sign either. After all, this is a forum for discussion, doesn't it?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-4-16 10:53

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 10:50 發表

To certain people, such as gardeners and plant lovers, they think killing a plant is cruel too. So, human shouldn't even alive/exist? I just tell you how most people feel, which you can have your cho ...


its good that u didnt vote
I don't eat dog, not because eating dogs is illegal in hk and canada. I dont think I will eat dogs even I am in China or in Korea.
I just think that the notion of forcing the WHOLE population in a country to accept some other people's value is Barbarians
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-4-16 10:53

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-15 22:16 發表

當殺死"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人係你既親人既話, 而你當時又只係一個十歲都唔夠既小朋友, 你就唔會咁講架喇.


a) if I were 10, I'll still have cried, complained and asked.
b) read what I wrote:  

如果係你親手宰的, 我冇野講. 如果宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人都同佢地建立過兩段深厚既友誼, 咁我只可說, 好彩我同宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人冇任何友誼.

That implies:

if anyone did not have any 友誼 with "吱吱"和"ap ap", and they killed them, I'll say it's just life, dejavu.
if anyone had 友誼 with "吱吱"和"ap ap", and yet they killed them, then I call that person a hypocrite.
作者: zoids    時間: 2008-4-16 10:57

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 10:19 發表

You didn't get my point.
I mean if you treat an animal your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
So, if you treat your pig/sheep as your friend/family member, eating it is cruel.
By the majorit ...


I only treat MY PET as friend/family member, not EVERY SINGLE OTHER ANIMAL that I cannot reach.  I adore many other animals too, but it doesn't make me rage over how they should not be eaten by human beings as long as they are not endangered species.  Your point of view makes me wonder how old are you....
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-4-16 11:01

原帖由 zoids 於 2008-4-16 10:57 發表


I only treat MY PET as friend/family member, not EVERY SINGLE OTHER ANIMAL that I cannot reach.  I adore many other animals too, but it doesn't make me rage over how they should not be eaten by huma ...


so that's U-man believes.  He's entitled to his opinion.

So you disagree with him, fine.  you are entitled to your opinion as well.

Does it make you doubt how old he is?  now this is getting personal.
作者: zoids    時間: 2008-4-16 14:11

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-4-16 11:01 發表


so that's U-man believes.  He's entitled to his opinion.

So you disagree with him, fine.  you are entitled to your opinion as well.

Does it make you doubt how old he is?  now this is getting perso ...


I was not trying to get personal.  I just found that his logic is absurd because he doesn't seem to understand what he/she should care about within own ability.  I was thinking his point of view is due to inexperienced with world issues and understanding of the society.  That's why I asked that question.
作者: makten    時間: 2008-4-16 14:36

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-16 00:11 發表
ok im gnona leave this forum for u guyz are debate

and no, the korean govt would legalize dog meat, the farmers aren't gonna treat them any different than before otherwise they are wasting way too mu ...

你EQ都幾低吓...同人DEBATE小小就話離開FORUM...
你點响現實生活架...俾人CRITICIZE一兩句都唔得...跳樓死左佢算啦
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 18:09

原帖由 zoids 於 2008-4-16 10:57 發表


I only treat MY PET as friend/family member, not EVERY SINGLE OTHER ANIMAL that I cannot reach.  I adore many other animals too, but it doesn't make me rage over how they should not be eaten by huma ...

Thanks for your comment.
But actually your immature comment makes you more immature than my actual age. How about I tell you I'm just 3 years old? Or I'm 60? First, would you believe; and second, would that make any difference for your bias? You really need more education before challenging other people on a forum. Haha..... please don't take it serious, everything here is just a joke!
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-16 18:49

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-4-17 02:53 發表
a) if I were 10, I'll still have cried, complained and asked.
b) read what I wrote:  

如果係你親手宰的, 我冇野講. 如果宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人都同佢地建立過兩段深厚既友誼, 咁我只可說, 好彩我同宰"吱吱"和"ap ap"既人冇任何友誼.

That implies:

if anyone did not have any 友誼 with "吱吱"和"ap ap", and they killed them, I'll say it's just life, dejavu.
if anyone had 友誼 with "吱吱"和"ap ap", and yet they killed them, then I call that person a hypocrite.


閣下既思想果然成熟. 當年年幼無知既小弟, 只知道吱吱同"ap ap"唔見左既當晚, 晚餐分別有雞同鴨.
小弟當晚冇食過一啖雞or鴨, 但都有含著淚咁繼續食飯, 睇住吱吱同"ap ap"比人一啖一啖咁食落肚.

你可能覺得小弟冇骨氣, 但小弟當年正值發育時期, 唔食飯會肚餓既. 而且唔食飯就冇其他野食, 唯有面對現實, 一邊食飯, 一邊為吱吱同"ap ap"祈禱, 希望佢地可以上天堂.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-16 18:50

原帖由 makten 於 2008-4-17 06:36 發表

你EQ都幾低吓...同人DEBATE小小就話離開FORUM...
你點响現實生活架...俾人CRITICIZE一兩句都唔得...跳樓死左佢算啦


小心比人告你教唆他人自殺...
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-16 18:52

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-17 10:09 發表
Haha..... please don't take it serious, everything here is just a joke!


Ultraman, I don't think EVERYTHING here is just a joke.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 19:51

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-16 18:52 發表


Ultraman, I don't think EVERYTHING here is just a joke.

Oops.... OK, how about I change it to "ALMOST EVERYTHING"?
作者: zoids    時間: 2008-4-16 22:11

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 18:09 發表

Thanks for your comment.
But actually your immature comment makes you more immature than my actual age. How about I tell you I'm just 3 years old? Or I'm 60? First, would you believe; and second, wo ...


Thank you.  I think I know the answer to that question now.  
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-16 23:30

原帖由 zoids 於 2008-4-16 22:11 發表


Thank you.  I think I know the answer to that question now.  

愚子可教! Good... good... .
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-16 23:40

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-17 11:51 發表

Oops.... OK, how about I change it to "ALMOST EVERYTHING"?

愚子可教! Good... good...
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-17 00:08

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-16 23:40 發表

愚子可教! Good... good...

But too bad, you such a copy cat! Now I know why you don't eat cat--- your same species! (J/K)
作者: zoids    時間: 2008-4-17 01:44

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-16 23:30 發表

愚子可教! Good... good... .


LOL.  You are getting worse and not making sense anymore.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-4-17 07:43

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-4-17 16:08 發表

But too bad, you such a copy cat! Now I know why you don't eat cat--- your same species! (J/K)

I don't think being a copy cat is bad woh~
As Ultraman is so ultra, it is not bad to be a copy cat of you la.
I don't need to be an ultraman, I just want to be a goodman. ^^
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2008-4-17 10:26

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-4-17 07:43 發表

I don't think being a copy cat is bad woh~
As Ultraman is so ultra, it is not bad to be a copy cat of you la.
I don't need to be an ultraman, I just want to be a goodman. ^^

I see. Wish your dream comes true and become a true goodman one day!



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