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作者: Guy 時間: 2008-5-4 11:18 標題: 杭州灣大橋啟用慘遭摧殘

杭州灣大橋啟用慘遭摧殘
浙江民眾真失禮
04/05/2008

中國人依然醜陋？號稱全球最長跨海大橋的杭州灣大橋，上周四盛大通車後，即遭到內地民眾瘋狂蹂躪。為期三天的「五一」假期，讓大橋成了新的旅遊景點，群眾齊齊駕車「試新橋」。各車慢駛、急停，只為看風景、拍照留念。有人拒繳路費，亦有人當大橋是野餐勝地，大吃大喝、亂扔垃圾，甚至憑欄向大海小便！因橋上「死車」太多，原來上海至寧波的兩小時車程，延長至七小時以上，且發生多次因慢車而起的車禍。

上周四深夜十一時五十八分，杭州灣大橋正式通車。自凌晨時分起，大橋兩旁的緊急停車帶，就變身為「公眾停車場」。駕駛者為感受大橋美景，紛紛將車輛停泊在緊急停車帶上。大家慢慢飽覽橋上風光，還不忘取出相機拍照留念。

天亮以後，橋上更為熱鬧。杭州灣大橋非設計為旅遊項目，因此未設公廁設施。惟民眾為求觀光，留在橋上的時間實在太久，難免人有三急。為求「解決」，有父母把孩子抱過橋欄上，向海小便。除小孩子外，甚至連大人也不怕醜，公然站上橋欄，對尠茫茫大海解決。

車程兩小時變七小時
大橋主橋面的限定汽車時速，最低為六十公里。但大批「觀光車」湧上大橋，司機隨意慢行、甚至停車，令大橋出現嚴重擠塞。一名姓崔的司機表示，他自下午三時開車上橋，但到傍晚近六時，只前進了五公里。

有關部門統計，大橋首日通車的二十四小時內，共有八萬二千多架次車輛通過。但當局最初預計通車初期汽車流量，每日僅四萬架次左右，顯示實際使用情況遠超預期。龐大的車流加上司機肆意慢駛，令行車時間不減反增，上海與寧波之間的行程增加多達七小時，大大超出兩小時車程的預期。

此外，因橋上汽車速度過慢，又有司機不時急煞車。大橋開通首日發生多宗交通事故，最嚴重的是上午約九點半，北行方向發生十車連環相撞，但車速太慢，未造成傷亡。

按當局規定，在大橋試運營期間，暫禁貨車通行，而橋上亦嚴禁停車觀光，違者可被罰款二百元。據一名交警表示，為保障道路順暢、減少阻延情況，分布在橋上的四十多名交警，雖面對民眾違規，仍沒即場開罰單，只勸說請大家離開。他坦言，太多人在橋上停車拍照、看風景。他曾在三小時內，勸喻超過五十名司機開車。

作者: Traum 時間: 2008-5-4 12:12

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作者: Ultraman 時間: 2008-5-4 12:37

In most general cases, who still dare to shout "Mainlander and Hongkongese are just the same"?!

作者: jake123 時間: 2008-5-4 13:08

No offense, are you guys racist?

作者: Traum 時間: 2008-5-4 13:50

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作者: bbqfish 時間: 2008-5-4 14:12

having this kind of 同胞, it sometimes can be embarrassing to be chinese. Mainlanders need to improve their 秩序同公德 if they want other races to respect them.

作者: CWong 時間: 2008-5-4 17:33

Yes,Mainlanders need to improve their 秩序同公德 , but Hongkongese are not perfect too, some Hongkongese talk loud like a bitch in restaurants & in shopping mall! some Hongkongese drive like crazy to just show off their cars! some Hongkongese still not washing their hands after their business in the washroom!
I am a Hongkongese but I see myself as a Chinese & I'm proud as a Chinese ! Hongkongese still Chinese, you can ask any caucasian!

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2008-5-4 18:16

身為中國人既小弟, 每日都以自己係中國人為傲!
秩序同公德係需要時間培養既, 小弟深信內地人唔駛一百年內就可以培養到有秩序同公德既下一代~

中國加油! 小弟永遠支持你!

作者: Traum 時間: 2008-5-4 18:44

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作者: jake123 時間: 2008-5-4 19:10

My point is your first reply, reaction is to differentiate yourself from Mainlanders.

Also, who sets "proper etiquette"? If all western people celebrate like that, then would you say that those Chinese people are "backward", "embarassing"? What about if only China existed, would you think that those celebrators are showing improper etiquette?

Well I do agree that the car crashes and the peeing(nothing wrong if ppl are free of clothes or something, if everyone accepts that, just that the pee stinks) are not so cool.

作者: Traum 時間: 2008-5-4 19:28

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作者: bbqfish 時間: 2008-5-4 20:20

原帖由 CWong 於 2008-5-4 17:33 發表
Yes,Mainlanders need to improve their 秩序同公德 , but Hongkongese are not perfect too, some Hongkongese talk loud like a bitch in restaurants & in shopping mall! some Hongkongese drive like crazy t ...

I do realize HKers are not perfect too. But do you agree that it's safe to assume more Mainlanders need to improve their 秩序同公德 in comparison? In Beijing, the 11th day of every month is now a designated day to practice lining up properly while waiting for transit. The government had to do it coz Olympics is coming and it knows how embarrassing it is that whole bunch of adults don't know how to line up! If you've ever travelled to Mainland, u'll see a lot of government slogans telling ppl not doing this not doing that, do this do that. All I can say is 秩序同公德 should be taught to little kids at school la. Can't always rely on slogans.

I too feel angry seeing a bunch of western media fabricating stories to insult China. But simple stuff like 秩序同公德 foreigners can see with their own eyes and judge. And if the citizens can't reach a certain standard, foreigners will look down on us the Chinese.

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2008-5-4 22:55

Tell me which race is perfect? I really don't want to look down Mainlander for we're all "Chinese". But how can I tell others I am one of a well discipline "Chinese" while billions bad ones out there? Honestly, I don't proud of being a "Chinese". I just proud of being myself, no matter what race I am.

作者: yyj 時間: 2008-5-5 13:01

原帖由 bbqfish 於 2008-5-4 20:20 發表 All I can say is 秩序同公德 should be taught to little kids at school la. Can't always rely on slogans.

I strongly agree with this statement. And from my personal experience, I did see students in University and Highschool in China have better if not proper manners than the general public. I think it's just a matter of time.

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2008-5-5 13:51

大陸人鐘意點用佢地條橋係佢地既事，關你乜事？

佢地係無公民意識，呢D都唔係新聞啦。。。

作者: CWong 時間: 2008-5-6 03:34

香港人只是有幸不用经历如大耀进、文革等动盪政治运动而比大陸人可以較早接受文明教育，曾幾何時香港不也是週街貼滿告示：不可隨处便瀝、不可隨地吐啖，罚款二仟有可能！還经常唱：垃圾蟲，垃圾蟲，制造垃圾損市容！当年香港人不也一样！大陸人要经历種種政治运动而失去十幾廿年文明教育及发展機会，那是他们的不幸，有些大陸人今天能成为有錢人也只是因近年中国经济起飛而给與他们機会，要是廿多年前他们還可能只是一个在工广打工賺取幾十元人民帑的工广工人甚至是在工社内日日担屎耕田过活的农民，要知道工社内的农民未必一定是农民，很多是文革時期被政府下放到老远的农村的学生、知识份子，他们不像我们生活在自由文明高尚社会中，他们失去受真正教育的機会，沒有親人照顧，長年接觸的就是不断的思想改造，身边的领导人其实就是一些冇学识的农民，他们过的並非是他们願意过的生活，住的是很不理想的环境，做的工作並非是他们的志願！当中有不少人捱不过去病、意外而死、自殺死、被批鬥死更是无數！我们这些一岀世便有高床軟枕的香港人能对他们过往经能有多少體会？口口声声批评大陸人怎的怎的，只怕是香港人一向过得太舒服吧！今天在中国內依然有干千萬萬人住在窮鄉地方，依然未能有个人应得的教育，在宁夏生活的孩子一年也未必洗到一次澡，家裡沒有厕所，我们不要祈待十年後他们会跟我们城市人一样，我们香港人所擁有的幸福只怕是欠了他们的！別只以为我们岀生於香港便了不起，我们的祖父母有幾多不是源自大陸，我们能说我们的祖父母从沒试过隨街吐啖？相伩佢地当年唔少都有喺街痾过尿！

[ 本帖最後由 CWong 於 2008-5-6 03:36 編輯 ]

作者: cbcnews 時間: 2008-5-6 06:09

the way HKer see mainland Chinese today is similar to Canadian see HK immigrant in 80's. its different in cultures and education. it wouldn't take long for them to catch up.

作者: Traum 時間: 2008-5-6 09:29

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作者: bbqfish 時間: 2008-5-6 09:49

原帖由 CWong 於 2008-5-6 03:34 發表
香港人只是有幸不用经历如大耀进、文革等动盪政治运动而比大陸人可以較早接受文明教育，曾幾何時香港不也是週街貼滿告示：不可隨处便瀝、不可隨地吐啖，罚款二仟有可能！還经常唱：垃圾蟲，垃圾蟲，制造垃圾損市容！当年香港人不也一 ...

You have ur pt here. That's why I feel so sad that the communist government spent so much $ on Olympics, space technology.. Things to "prove China to be a strong country". And yet in such a "strong country", so many little kids don't even get basis medication and education. Is sending kaikonaunts to space more beneficial to the 13 billion ordinary citizens, or giving them the very basis human right to get medical treatment and literacy education?

Chinese values fame (mian zi) too much. And always tries to hide its ugly side (eg. HIV, SARS). Really, who's going to be benefited by the government recognizing those problem? If the government at least say sth about those issue, the ordinary folks will know how to better protect themselves. Instead, the government always says it's domestic problem and none of other countries' business.

作者: Traum 時間: 2008-5-6 10:40

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作者: CWong 時間: 2008-5-6 18:02

我们不应把对当今政杈者不滿的情绪都发洩到"大陸人"上，人民是无孤的，因为他们都是生活在統治者之下，政治家一向都是邪恶的，为了一己利益，往住受害者都是人民！他们是身不由己！

作者: chobit 時間: 2008-5-6 18:25

well maybe the scenic sucks at 青馬大橋 compare to this one =P

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-4 12:12 發表
點解當年青馬大橋啟用既時候無D咁既事發生？秩序同公德對大陸人來講係代表D乜？

慶幸中國每一日都不斷 "進步"。

-力

作者: chobit 時間: 2008-5-6 18:30

well..talk about overall polite to others...I have to say the Japanese are some of the best! We HKers are far from there....

EL

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-5-4 22:55 發表
Tell me which race is perfect? I really don't want to look down Mainlander for we're all "Chinese". But how can I tell others I am one of a well discipline "Chinese" while billions bad ones out there? ...

作者: chobit 時間: 2008-5-6 18:34

I truely agree! Thanks!

原帖由 CWong 於 2008-5-6 03:34 發表
香港人只是有幸不用经历如大耀进、文革等动盪政治运动而比大陸人可以較早接受文明教育，曾幾何時香港不也是週街貼滿告示：不可隨处便瀝、不可隨地吐啖，罚款二仟有可能！還经常唱：垃圾蟲，垃圾蟲，制造垃圾損市容！当年香港人不也一 ...

作者: chobit 時間: 2008-5-6 18:39

About cover-up..! I used to believe the western media so much that, I recently learn that "at least in the US", there are lots of things that are cover-up, because they are consider as news that can cause chaos.

Of course it is up to the government to determine this la..!

EL

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-6 10:40 發表

I share you sentiments, BBQFish. Chinese leaders, and Emperor Jiang in particular, were especially 好大喜功 and 愛面子. Space technologies have its values from a military perspective, and when it mat ...

作者: yyj 時間: 2008-5-7 12:32

原帖由 chobit 於 2008-5-6 18:39 發表
About cover-up..! I used to believe the western media so much that, I recently learn that "at least in the US", there are lots of things that are cover-up, because they are consider as news that can ...

US definitely is doing a lot better at covering up things.

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