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作者: boss2007    時間: 2008-6-28 23:38     標題: Water fuel car unveiled ...

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/ ... 226714&src=news


作者: MyOMy    時間: 2008-6-28 23:59

Boss, do you know what and how much energy turn water to hydrogen ?
作者: boss2007    時間: 2008-6-29 00:18     標題: 回復 MyOMy

only 1 liter of water is needed to last an hour of 80 km ...

this technology is not new, the same technology was invented by Stan Mayor @ 1998

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YIgOn1kRw5s

and after he went to serve US Army, he was poisoned and dead.

he can checked out details @
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

another technology is HHO , demo is here :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G6YYUOx6fBU

and the company get stuck at US, moved to Alberta, and our bank BCE swallowed it up and bury the technology.

I will post the water message from Emoto if any one is interested ....

still believe the BS your high school teacher telling you impossible to get more energy from electrolysis ?


作者: boss2007    時間: 2008-6-29 00:30     標題: Genepax planed to sell these WES cars for USD 6000

New Fuel Cell System 'Generates Electricity with Only Water, Air'
Jun 13, 2008 19:30
Kouji Kariatsumari, Nikkei Electronics
Genepax Co Ltd explained the technologies used in its new fuel cell system "Water Energy System (WES)," which uses water as a fuel and does not emit CO2.

The system can generate power just by supplying water and air to the fuel and air electrodes, respectively, the company said at the press conference, which took place June 12, 2008, at the Osaka Assembly Hall.

The basic power generation mechanism of the new system is similar to that of a normal fuel cell, which uses hydrogen as a fuel. According to Genepax, the main feature of the new system is that it uses the company's membrane electrode assembly (MEA), which contains a material capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction.

Though the company did not reveal the details, it "succeeded in adopting a well-known process to produce hydrogen from water to the MEA," said Hirasawa Kiyoshi, the company's president. This process is allegedly similar to the mechanism that produces hydrogen by a reaction of metal hydride and water. But compared with the existing method, the new process is expected to produce hydrogen from water for longer time, the company said.

With the new process, the cell needs only water and air, eliminating the need for a hydrogen reformer and high-pressure hydrogen tank. Moreover, the MEA requires no special catalysts, and the required amount of rare metals such as platinum is almost the same as that of existing systems, Genepax said.

Unlike the direct methanol fuel cell (DMFC), which uses methanol as a fuel, the new system does not emit CO2. In addition, it is expected to have a longer life because catalyst degradation (poisoning) caused by CO does not occur on the fuel electrode side. As it has only been slightly more than a year since the company completed the prototype, it plans to collect more data on the product life.

At the conference, Genepax unveiled a fuel cell stack with a rated output of 120W and a fuel cell system with a rated output of 300W. In the demonstration, the 120W fuel cell stack was first supplied with water by using a dry-cell battery operated pump. After power was generated, it was operated as a passive system with the pump turned off.

This time, the voltage of the fuel cell stack was 25-30V. Because the stack is composed of 40 cells connected in series, it is expected that the output per cell is 3W or higher, the voltage is about 0.5-0.7V, and the current is about 6-7A. The power density is likely to be not less than 30mW/cm2 because the reaction area of the cell is 10 x 10 cm.

Meanwhile, the 300W fuel cell system is an active system, which supplies water and air with a pump. In the demonstration, Genepax powered the TV and the lighting equipment with a lead-acid battery charged by using the system. In addition, the 300W system was mounted in the luggage room of a compact electric vehicle "Reva" manufactured by Takeoka Mini Car Products Co Ltd, and the vehicle was actually driven by the system.

Genepax initially planned to develop a 500W system, but failed to procure the materials for MEA in time and ended up in making a 300W system.

For the future, the company intends to provide 1kw-class generation systems for use in electric vehicles and houses. Instead of driving electric vehicles with this system alone, the company expects to use it as a generator to charge the secondary battery used in electric vehicles.

Although the production cost is currently about ¥2,000,000 (US$18,522), it can be reduced to ¥500,000 or lower if Genepax succeeds in mass production. The company believes that its fuel cell system can compete with residential solar cell systems if the cost can be reduced to this level.

source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb9urNUFzAM&feature=related
作者: slamdunk6    時間: 2008-6-29 00:30

man, we need to see this thing go into mass production asap, screw those oil corp!
作者: Guy    時間: 2008-6-29 22:22

maybe those company will slash these peoject on the street...

these are old technology... we still get these news like new things
作者: yungfourfour    時間: 2008-6-30 07:16

Ballard and Angstrom have been in Vancouver for ages.  I think Ballard's fuel cell product have been recalled for non-performance related issue (even though, I think that there are potential hazard in safely handling hygrogen in public/ for everyone).  There must be more reasons why they aren't on market until now.
作者: boss2007    時間: 2008-6-30 12:10     標題: 回復 yungfourfour - reason why they aren't on market

I interpreted they will end up like Arie M. DeGeus - who is inventor of a revolutionary, affordable, clean energy technology, was assassinated last November at Charlotte Douglass International Airport in North Carolina.

The same cycle repeated, once any free energy or technology allowed people to be free, the MIB  will showed up, threated, assassinated the key figure, shut down the company and bury the technology. The Arie M. DeGeus 's death is special, as he was terminated by Venus ECCM - a technology that shoots an electromagnetic beam that destroys the body’s control of its heartbeat.

the following link is the list of inventors and the technologies been suppressed,

http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Suppression

hope the genepax has better luck, as the "Science Community" is started to attack and made the company ridicule ...


作者: boss2007    時間: 2008-6-30 12:41     標題: more on water byke released at October 2005 ...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FW_LQqJk740

what the inventor ends up to date ? he has been threatened and ....


作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-7-15 12:06

o_O There is so many ways to spread information, why can't he make it all public so there is no threats to himself?

Could he be as greedy as the bankers?
作者: boss2007    時間: 2009-2-19 14:58     標題: the genepax is gone ... do u have guts to try the new ?

this is what claims at the site :

"
We at GENEPAX have strived to develop new technologies to enable environment friendly energy systems, to mitigate environmental risks such as those posed by global warming. The systems that we have proposed have received warm words of support from many people. However, we have yet to overcome the many obstacles we face in the current world, to bring our systems to market. Moreover, the costs of development have become very large. As our resources are very limited, we need to retrench and reassess our resources and our development plans at this time, and we are accordingly closing our website.

We express our deep gratitude for the supportive messages we have received. We hope that you will continue to be supportive of efforts to develop cleaner and more environment friendly energies, and we will continue to strive to develop systems to preserve our environment.

February 10th, 2009
Yasuyuki Takahashi
Representative Director
GENEPAX
"

source:
http://genepax.co.jp/

the new :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuM5TNi2lbU

and buy it @
http://www.keppemotor.com/index.php




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