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作者: Caffie    時間: 2007-12-10 21:55     標題: Police shoot and kill man at Vancouver gas station

今日放工喺41 街見到Shell 欄住晒...唔知發生咩事...原來係咁...

Police shoot and kill man at Vancouver gas station
Shooting scene at Knight St. and 41st Ave.
(Photo: News1130)
Monday, December 10 - 06:00:00 PM Reshmi Nair




VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Vancouver police officer has shot and killed a young man at a gas station at 41st and Knight this afternoon. An officer was responding to a call about a possible drunk driver at the Shell Station. Police say the suspect, a man in his 20s, pulled out a gun when the officer approached.

Shots were exchanged but the officer was not hit. The suspect died after being rushed to hospital.

Meanwhile, two cars appear to have hit each other at the same Shell station but police are not saying how that may be connected to this shooting.
作者: Traum    時間: 2007-12-10 22:17

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作者: gleaner    時間: 2007-12-10 22:36

Things are getting really wacky here in YVR....I hope the cops would find a way to solve this mayhem...
作者: blowfish    時間: 2007-12-10 23:19

Is pretty sad, when u hold a gun infront of a Cop thats open season.
Even a toy gun looks real u could be dead meat.
After a few glasses of joy juice a person can just about do anything, sadly one can have his/er own life ended pretty abruptly.

God help all of us.
作者: dkam22    時間: 2007-12-10 23:21

so scary!!! nowhere is safe now.. imagin if you were actually there gasing up!!
we are not talking about in some "country side" but actually in the urban area!
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2007-12-10 23:43

If the description is true, I won't blame the cop to shoot the suspect for he seemed to have a gun thingy on his hand; however...... the cops thinks it's OK to shoot in the gas station area?!
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2007-12-11 00:09

Ok think, who can shoot straighter, the drunk guy that is freaking out at seeing the cop, or the cop who just left his coffee and donut at timmy-hos'?
作者: tweety    時間: 2007-12-11 00:14     標題: yup.. it sound scary to me too..

when I saw the cbc news around 5pm at work today.. huh..

I thought it's fill & run case.. or something else..

shooting cases again..
作者: BarF1    時間: 2007-12-11 01:05

Its game as long as suspect is holding a firearm ...
作者: yungfourfour    時間: 2007-12-11 02:24

原帖由 notgoddy 於 2007-12-11 00:09 發表
Ok think, who can shoot straighter, the drunk guy that is freaking out at seeing the cop, or the cop who just left his coffee and donut at timmy-hos'?


I am seriously thinking
Holding a firearm drunk might not shoot straight, if the bullet goes to the gas tank, or goes to a passer-by, you're gonna blame the police again?

[ 本帖最後由 yungfourfour 於 2007-12-11 02:26 編輯 ]
作者: myversa    時間: 2007-12-11 08:55

Canada does not have gun control?  It seems that everyone on the news has guns.
作者: Traum    時間: 2007-12-11 08:56

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作者: chunsh    時間: 2007-12-11 13:07

原帖由 Traum 於 2007-12-11 08:56 發表

If you're the cop, would you still remember that you're at a gas station when somebody pulls out a gun and start shooting at you? If it were in a croweded area, then yes, I may not pull the gun. But  ...


then we can see "Die Hard 4.5" that kills, which is not funny at all
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2007-12-11 13:31

原帖由 myversa 於 2007-12-11 08:55 發表
Canada does not have gun control?  It seems that everyone on the news has guns.


I thought we spent a few billion dollars on a failed gun registry system.

If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2007-12-11 13:49

原帖由 yungfourfour 於 2007-12-11 02:24 發表


I am seriously thinking
Holding a firearm drunk might not shoot straight, if the bullet goes to the gas tank, or goes to a passer-by, you're gonna blame the police again?


excuse me, who is trying to blame the police here?
作者: raima    時間: 2007-12-11 17:49

i passed by there too. i thought it was some sort of car accident. but then all the roads were blocked off, then i thought it's gotta be something major.... then i saw the news too.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2007-12-13 12:32

原帖由 Traum 於 2007-12-11 08:56 發表

If you're the cop, would you still remember that you're at a gas station when somebody pulls out a gun and start shooting at you? If it were in a croweded area, then yes, I may not pull the gun. But  ...

A good cop shouldn't "forget" where the situation he/she is involving in the crime scene at anytime, or else how can he/she take correct judgment and reaction? Just like this case, definitely shooting in the gas station area is at certain high risk, no matter how accurate the cop can shoot on the subject, there is "sparks" that can kill too. As simple as why people can't smoke at gas station? Even they don't fire up the gas tanks directly?

Another issue is, if cops are well trained (supposed) and didn't get drunk (supposed) and so they can "shoot straight", why don't they shoot at the suspects' limbs first rather than "just to kill" them? Or is the training trained them to "shoot down any suspect first place no matter what"? I dunno ar.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2007-12-13 13:14

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2007-12-13 12:32 發表

A good cop shouldn't "forget" where the situation he/she is involving in the crime scene at anytime, or else how can he/she take correct judgment and reaction? Just like this case, definitely shootin ...



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作者: chobit    時間: 2007-12-13 16:03

It's true that given the proper mixture of vapor of gas + oxygen + spark = explosion  I think this cop has done the right thing.

It's not like cops should never approach a suspect at a gas station, unless you know ahead the suspect has firearms.

In this case, bulltets being fired at either ends would probably increase the risk of having an explosion, so kill him ASAP was a correct dicision.

EL

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2007-12-13 12:32 發表

A good cop shouldn't "forget" where the situation he/she is involving in the crime scene at anytime, or else how can he/she take correct judgment and reaction? Just like this case, definitely shootin ...

作者: notgoddy    時間: 2007-12-13 19:07

Funny thing is, this is exactly the kind of situation where a Taser could not be used, unfortunately.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2007-12-13 22:05

Aiya .. I drove by .. and I didn't know what happened ..  gun shot in gas station ...

[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2007-12-13 22:06 編輯 ]
作者: AmericanBeauty    時間: 2007-12-13 22:28

Another issue is, if cops are well trained (supposed) and didn't get drunk (supposed) and so they can "shoot straight", why don't they shoot at the suspects' limbs first rather than "just to kill" them? Or is the training trained them to "shoot down any suspect first place no matter what"? I dunno ar.


Polices are not trained to shoot to disable.  They are trained to shoot to kill.  A lot of polices pull their guns many times during their career, but only a small portion of them actually fired their guns because of this reason.




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