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作者: 貓    時間: 2008-10-30 11:26     標題: 第一次買DSLR

第一次買DSLR，有咩配件係需要買既呢？
我知道要買MEMORY CARD，我會買LENS FILTER 當PROTECTOR 用，當然仲有個相機袋啦…
咁仲有啲咩係應該要買，而又有啲咩係十個裡面有九個人買咗番嚟都係得個放字既呢？
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-10-30 11:45

it really depends on what you want to use the SLR for ...
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-10-30 11:59

我諗住部機連架生會係ALL PURPOSE 咁用。人象風景小品旅行…
而我只係一個攝影超新手，全無經驗。諗住好好咁學吓影相。
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2008-10-30 15:20

a tripod, maybe
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-10-30 22:12

FLASH FLASH FLASH ..  most important ..

Period!!!
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-10-30 22:31

即係…
相機　鏡頭　LENS FILTER　MEMORY CARD　相機袋　三腳架　閃光燈…
MEMORY CARD 有冇話咩牌子千其唔好買？
三腳架又有冇咩牌子係OK 既？
作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-10-30 23:36

manfrotto 190 serise tripod are good for beginners, which camera are u planning to buy?

thanks!
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-10-31 00:00

諗住買部CANON 新機。

Manfrotto 190 啲腳架望落去幾穩陣…
放個Manfrotto 322RC2 頭落去好唔好呢？

[ 本帖最後由 貓 於 2008-10-31 00:13 編輯 ]
作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-10-31 01:20

personally, i dun really like ballheads with grip, but again its very personal, this combination will fullfill most of your needs, however if you are planning to travel with it, then will not be so good coz its quite heavy even the carbon fiber versioin.  also get a cable release or infered remote control to use with your tripod.  if you are getting a canon i would suggest you get a 50mm f/1.4 USM or the 50 mm f/1.8 to play with.
作者: ricrick    時間: 2008-10-31 02:23

lenses.. a lot of lenses
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-10-31 06:37

no offense ... spend the initial $ to go to a photography class ... say Langara.

by the time you finish the class you will realize why you should and shouldn't have bought certain equipment.

(e.g. a lot of my friends end up selling their lense after the class cos it just won't fit their style)
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-10-31 09:30

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-10-31 06:37 發表
no offense ... spend the initial $ to go to a photography class ... say Langara.

by the time you finish the class you will realize why you should and shouldn't have bought certain equipment.

(e.g. a ...


非常好既提議，我都好想去學吓專業影相。不過暫時喺網上面所教既都有唔少資料。相信我會「實戰」一輪之後再決定用咩方法再去進修。
我暫時有個幾全面而Balance 既「購物清單」，所以我應該唔會end up 買多好多用唔著既野。(講真，其實我覺得係一個幾敗家既清單 )
當然，個清單只係我自己覺得全面同Balance啫 ，所以亦都襯呢個機會喺呢度向各位大大請教一吓有咩需要買，有咩唔好買，以免日後多咗一堆超無聊既架生喺度封塵。(雖然我已經知道我個清單入面其實有幾樣野係玩具多過係用具)
至於話要買好多鏡頭…鏡頭呢個無底深潭，我係唔會踩落去既！ 紅圈…紅圈…紅…圈…紅…
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-10-31 09:59

after many years .. the only pieces I haven't swapped out from the initial purchase ...

B+W MRC filters and carbon tripod.
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-10-31 10:59

講開FILTER，我諗住買個UV FILTER 平時當PROTECTOR 用同埋一個POLARIZING FILTER。
有冇話咩牌子既FILTER 特別強喺咩地方又或者有冇啲咩牌子既FILTER 用佢不如唔用？
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-10-31 11:25

if you use expensive glass then don't go cheap on filters .. it's like buying a Porsche but putting cheap tires on them.

I like B+W, Heliopan ... brass rings, multicoated (MRC) .. for wide angle use the ultra slim version.

The $ adds up quickly though.  
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-10-31 13:02

Hi CAT,

I use both Hoya S-HMC UV or B+W UV filters.  As for polarizing Filter, save your money and buy a good one.  I found that the cheap ones really hunt the pictures more.

Someone here suggested to get remote/shutter release.  Personally, I hardly use it, I use the timer + Mirror lock-up most of the time in place of the remote/shutter release.



原帖由 貓 於 2008-10-31 10:59 發表
講開FILTER，我諗住買個UV FILTER 平時當PROTECTOR 用同埋一個POLARIZING FILTER。
有冇話咩牌子既FILTER 特別強喺咩地方又或者有冇啲咩牌子既FILTER 用佢不如唔用？ ...
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-10-31 13:04

May I ask what you use?  Would you mind share what you like and don't like about your current head?  I still have very little experience with heads, as I have only use about 4/5 diff ones only..!

Thanks

原帖由 lawgee 於 2008-10-31 01:20 發表
personally, i dun really like ballheads with grip, but again its very personal, this combination will fullfill most of your needs, however if you are planning to travel with it, then will not be so go ...
作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-10-31 14:41

原帖由 chobit 於 2008-10-31 14:04 發表
May I ask what you use?  Would you mind share what you like and don't like about your current head?  I still have very little experience with heads, as I have only use about 4/5 diff ones only..!

Tha ...


Mirror locks is a must either u use timer, cable release or remote.  Just that personally I like cable release more, and i think its handy for bulb mode too.
I use Arcatech V2 ballhead, Gitzo GT-1540 tripod, and RRS L plates for my cameras.  You can get more info at http://acratech.net and youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwRxpYleEJY
Personally I really like my ballhead, its less then 1lbs, and can hold up to 25lbs.  When I want more control I just don't turn the knob too tight and it still hold my lens pretty steady.

[ 本帖最後由 lawgee 於 2008-10-31 15:56 編輯 ]
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-10-31 21:40

FILTER 原來係咁買既…受教了…
我見好似有唔只一位老友提起有用RSS L PLATE… 咁跟住去GOOGLE 吓睇吓係乜啦…
呢個L PLATE 真係有用嗎？
作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-11-1 00:34

原帖由 貓 於 2008-10-31 22:40 發表
FILTER 原來係咁買既…受教了…
我見好似有唔只一位老友提起有用RSS L PLATE… 咁跟住去GOOGLE 吓睇吓係乜啦…
呢個L PLATE 真係有用嗎？


more info here:
http://reallyrightstuff.com/QR/index.html

again....just my own opinion, I think they are easier to attach and remove from the ballhead then the ones that comes in package (ballhead & camera plate) , and you can change vertical and horizontal easily.  I think if you are getting an entry level dslr, most set up in the market will do just fine (as your camera & lens will not be as heavy or unequal balance).  As you upgrade your body or heavier longer tele lens then consider more advanced gear later on.  coz the RRS L plate cost around 150 usd + shipping and because of their way of shipping....there will be a custom tax add on when it arrive to your door, so you would be looking for 250 to near 300 range (especially cnd are low now).  So if you want to get a tripod just get something from the manfrotto 190 range and see what's good deal, As you learn more or feel the need of another tripod then just sell the old one at bccamera or craigslist and get another one (by that time you know what you really wants, dun need to waste money).
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-1 19:01

L plate ??

NO NEED ..  not for NEW user at all ..

I have 2 ..  I DON'T use them now at all ..  $250 a piece ..  but added weight ...   bluh bluh bluh ..

Only goood thing about those RRS plate ..  is scratch resist .. lol

After the RRS plate, you need to buy a nice ball head ..  etc ..  ( say another $200 )  and then tripod ..  another $300 ..   so ..  like $800 EXTRA stuff ...  which is basically useless for you ....  

get a camera, play it with kit lens, and a 50mm prime lens first, then add flash ...  tripod ..  filter or not on kit lens, doesn't matter ..   

After you play the DSLR for a little while .. if you find yourself really into it, then sit down, and think about, are you more into the "HOTO"graphy part ..  or photoSHOP part ..   then go to take a course or buy some book to read and learn ..  ( dont just go forum and learn from those C hing .. )   

If you find yourself are into the PHOTOgraphy part, then you can start to spend more money on gears....  

Or we can suggest you to buy all the fancy gears now, then after a while, you get bored .. then sell to us cheap ..  lol
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-1 20:46

我想信我會比較多啲喺PHOTO 嗰邊… 用PHOTOSHOP 基本較相或者幾好用，但係用PHOTOSHOP 大改啲相就唔係咁啱我。
而家我個相機初步「購物清單」大概如下(依次序)…

- 相機連鏡頭
- EXTEND WARRANTY (總共三年)
- LENS FILTER
- 16GB CF CARD
- 相機袋
- 閃燈
- 三腳架
...
..
.

天呀…好貴呀…
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-1 22:11

skip the extended warranty la,,,
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-2 00:59

WARRANTY 真係冇用？聽講CANON 而家啲QC 一般咋喎…
相機可能冇事，但係支鏡頭可能會出事。話個什麼USM 摩打定係個變焦環最有可能發生問題。
我都係聽架咋…我對呢啲野一向冇研究。
有咩唔啱既，請各位影相前輩大哥多多照住，多多包涵…
作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-11-2 03:04

I say skip the warranty too, its just a way to get your money. what Catpiano say is right, just play with the camera first then as u are more into it, then u will know what u need, get a 50mm prime for low light and protraits, either the 50mm f/1.4 USM or the 50mm f/1.8 mark II are both good for its value.  If you want to get flash I personally like Metz more over Canon flash, I think Metz detect color tempeture better then Canon, and I think their reload time is a lot faster too.
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-11-2 07:01

分階段入市, 遂涉增持 ...

不遇我都明呢Ｄ野好難忍嘅!
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-2 18:49

而家啲閃燈幾乎都係全自動…唔係廠燈會唔會有啲咩FUNCTION 用唔倒而要用手動？

分段入市…三支鏡…暫時只係要三支鏡…
24-105mm f/4 kit lens
16-35mm
70-200mm f/4
一年一支…呵呵呵呵…
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-11-2 21:41

icic.. Arcatech makes one of the best ballhead out there, and I have always wanna to get one if I get a heavy duty lens such as 300 f/2.8 or something larger, but still haven't purchase one yet =D


原帖由 lawgee 於 2008-10-31 14:41 發表


Mirror locks is a must either u use timer, cable release or remote.  Just that personally I like cable release more, and i think its handy for bulb mode too.
I use Arcatech V2 ballhead, Gitzo GT-154 ...
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-11-2 21:48

This is just my opinions.  I would go for an independent personal article insurance which includes insure you dropping your lens into the water.  And they can be indepentant from your regular home insurance.

So far, with all the lenses I have.  I have only had 1 problem that's cause by the IS on my 300 f/4 lens

原帖由 貓 於 2008-11-2 00:59 發表
WARRANTY 真係冇用？聽講CANON 而家啲QC 一般咋喎…
相機可能冇事，但係支鏡頭可能會出事。話個什麼USM 摩打定係個變焦環最有可能發生問題。
我都係聽架咋…我對呢啲野一向冇研究。
有咩唔啱既，請各位影相前輩 ...
作者: elan7e    時間: 2008-11-2 23:02     標題: 回復 9# 的帖子

50mm x 1.6 = 80mm
31.25mm x 1.6 = 50mm

which focal length is the prime lens for DSLR (non-fullframe)?
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-2 23:19

independent personal article insurance…有冇用開邊一間？我冇留意過出面邊間公司有做呢樣野…又或者邊間Broker 有賣呢種保險？
作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-11-3 01:00

hay, do you mind telling us which body you are gonna get, I am just curious....hahaha~~~

thanks!
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-11-3 02:12

For your info.  They are both prime lens:
A lens with a fixed focal length is a prime lens, vs a zoom lens.

If I would to compare my 35mm vs 50mm vs 85mm on my FF, I use my 50mm macro more than the 85mm, but I would probably use the 50mm lots less if it isn't a 1/2 life size macro.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-3 11:25

原帖由 貓 於 2008-11-2 19:49 發表
而家啲閃燈幾乎都係全自動…唔係廠燈會唔會有啲咩FUNCTION 用唔倒而要用手動？

分段入市…三支鏡…暫時只係要三支鏡…
24-105mm f/4 kit lens
16-35mm
70-200mm f/4
一年一支…呵呵呵呵… ...



一年一支 ???  how can u perdict what happen and what to buy in 3 yr ??

Even if you say you are planing to buy something in Christmas, still 7 weeks too go .. WAY WAY WAY too early to think now ..  

Unless you are going to buy something next day or two, or next week ..  otherwise ....

Just like I am not rushing to think what car to buy for my grand son now ..  
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-3 11:28

原帖由 elan7e 於 2008-11-3 00:02 發表
50mm x 1.6 = 80mm
31.25mm x 1.6 = 50mm

which focal length is the prime lens for DSLR (non-fullframe)?


FOCAL length is NOT any lens at all ..   it is a measurement ..  

Just like ..   6 inch .  7 inch ..   which is a Banana ?  they both not banana, they both are the measurement for LENGTH ...   

A lens with fixed focal length ..  is Prime lens ..  doesn't matter LF  MF   FF   APS  or APC  whatever format ...

Just go chapter, buy a whatever photography book .. etc ..  for just $15 or so ..   



[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2008-11-3 12:32 編輯 ]
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-3 11:40

SOMETHING like this may help ..


http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/index.html   

No body cares about film anyway .. nowaday kids, start from digital anyway .. so that site will help ..
作者: elan7e    時間: 2008-11-3 20:53     標題: 回復 35# 的帖子

記得第一次接觸135相机時,前輩教導就由50mm標準鏡頭學起, 50mm標準鏡頭在view finder裹面看到的就和眼睛看到的相近. 對初學者來說50mm lens 因為無變形的现象,亦沒有tele lens把境像拉近的效果,而且長境頭容易手震,我們就可以專心學習相片的構图等等技巧.
因為貓說是第一次買DSLR,我以為catpiano介紹他買標準鏡頭, 原來prime lens=定焦鏡頭.我的英文實在差.
話說回來如果配一支100mm在non-FF机,對我等初學者來說是否適合?
請多多包函.
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-4 00:00

原帖由 lawgee 於 2008-11-3 01:00 發表
hay, do you mind telling us which body you are gonna get, I am just curious....hahaha~~~

thanks!


你都哈哈得既，我知你估倒既…哈哈…
喺我咁多個post 裡面有一個半個post 有提示過部機會係咩機…
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-4 00:16

原帖由 elan7e 於 2008-11-3 20:53 發表
記得第一次接觸135相机時,前輩教導就由50mm標準鏡頭學起, 50mm標準鏡頭在view finder裹面看到的就和眼睛看到的相近. 對初學者來說50mm lens 因為無變形的现象,亦沒有tele lens把境像拉近的效果,而且長境頭容易手震, ...


我準備買嗰部機係kit 嚟既，跟埋鏡嚟架喇。
我有諗過買支定焦鏡，可能係50mm f/1.4。但係要睇我幾時需要用到f/2 或者大過f/2 先會考慮去買佢。
而本身個plan 係先用kit lens，跟住三年內再加長短zoom 各一。咁就可以由16mm包到上200mm 喇…
作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-11-4 00:47

原帖由 貓 於 2008-11-4 01:00 發表


你都哈哈得既，我知你估倒既…哈哈…
喺我咁多個post 裡面有一個半個post 有提示過部機會係咩機…


5D MKII?? coz...I think I remember seeing you say something about the kit lens 24-105mm f/4.0 L IS USM.  Just my guess~~~~
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-4 01:28

哈哈…厲害厲害。一支24-105mm 就估倒係咩…
如無意外如你所估啦。賣機嗰個話部機要十一月廿七先有…期待中。

[ 本帖最後由 貓 於 2008-11-4 01:29 編輯 ]
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-4 08:47

First time newbie ..  5DII ??  OMG ..

Vancouver ..  well ..  learner driver license can drive M3 ...   LOL   

I guess CAT already ordered the 5DII?  even small town here, already more then 150 orders ...  so, if CAT hasn't ordered one yet ..   won't be able to get one till next yr wor ..   but Van ..  could be different ..

Anyway .. need to wait till third week of NOV .. and I won't be in town .. can't play it for trip ..  

[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2008-11-4 09:50 編輯 ]
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-11-4 09:00

he must have made good $ in the bear market ...

Cat, are you one of those who made all the $  with the put options!??

作者: lawgee    時間: 2008-11-4 11:36

原帖由 貓 於 2008-11-4 02:28 發表
哈哈…厲害厲害。一支24-105mm 就估倒係咩…
如無意外如你所估啦。賣機嗰個話部機要十一月廿七先有…期待中。


I also pre-ordered it too, but just the body.  I pre-ordered at boardway camera.
Where did you order yours?

[ 本帖最後由 lawgee 於 2008-11-4 12:40 編輯 ]
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-11-4 11:43

I hear people saying 50mm is close to what we see years ago.  However, I also read from many places where they say this is a mis-concept.
The 50mm lens on a 35mm camera has a field of view of 46 degree, while our eyes can see 100 degree, or 60 degree with a single eye.

EL

原帖由 elan7e 於 2008-11-3 20:53 發表
記得第一次接觸135相机時,前輩教導就由50mm標準鏡頭學起, 50mm標準鏡頭在view finder裹面看到的就和眼睛看到的相近. 對初學者來說50mm lens 因為無變形的现象,亦沒有tele lens把境像拉近的效果,而且長境頭容易手震, ...
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-11-4 14:31

I have both the 50mm f/1.4 and f/2.5 (Macro).  I like the f/2.5 (macro) lots better..!

EL

原帖由 貓 於 2008-11-4 00:16 發表


我準備買嗰部機係kit 嚟既，跟埋鏡嚟架喇。
我有諗過買支定焦鏡，可能係50mm f/1.4。但係要睇我幾時需要用到f/2 或者大過f/2 先會考慮去買佢。
而本身個plan 係先用kit lens，跟住三年內再加長短zoom 各一。咁就 ...
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-4 15:57

三年內 ....   stock market may go back to 35000 pt ..  or down to 8000 pt lei ..

Who knows ?   lol
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-4 16:02

Any ..  who cares about body ?

Not talking about "專業"   even my little brother .. when he was 16 .. he knew LENS  etc are way more important then body la...

body is just $3K (5DII)  but lens? easy for extra $20K plus ..  in order to perform the 22MP sensor ...

By the way .. other LYK replied this :

" my plan is.... drive Versa... and then upgrade the rim and exhause pipe in 3 years... "

(but he doesn't want to use his user name to reply wor .. lol)

[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2008-11-4 17:04 編輯 ]
作者: elan7e    時間: 2008-11-4 21:17     標題: 回復 45# 的帖子

Thank you for your information. Maybe my memory is wrong.
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-5 00:14

機就ORDER 咗架喇…希望十一月尾真係出倒機啦。我喺LONDON DRUGS 訂既部機。
STOCK MARKET 對我買機計劃係唔會有幾多影響，因為我從來都冇入過市，亦都冇諗住入市。
同埋，部機其實係我同我細佬夾份既，所以我實際要付出既只係一半既價錢啫…尚算喺控制範圍之內。

50mm 其實我係貪佢有個大光圈。好唔好用一百個大洋去買支1.8 番嚟當玩具呢？定係支1.8 既質地真係差到不如唔好用呢？
至於其他鏡，我暫時只係諗住會入多兩支鏡…

( 1 )
16-35mm f/2.8L II USM 或者…
14mm f.2.8L USM…

( 2 )
70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM 或者…
70-200mm f/2.8L USM 又或者…
70-200mm f/4L IS USM 再或者…
70-200mm f/4L USM 甚至乎…
100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM…
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-5 11:33

WAH ..  how can u hv so many choice ??  

take off 14mmL la.. it is not a lens for newbie .. period ..  

So 16-35 , 24-105 and 70-200 F2.8 IS  are good .. but $5K there already .. which is ok .. but that is a waste for new user.


定係支1.8 既質地真係差 ??    If you think that way ...  then ..      50mm F1.8 is probably better then 24-105 in quality ..  

50F1.8 with flash .. can take WAY nicer pic with MUCH more expensive lens ..  in general.

Don't bother too much, get the 5DII + Kit lens .. and 580EX II first ..   may be in 2 month .. you will be bored .. and many lens coming in 3 yrs anyway.

Go FM or DP for some research la..  dont go HK forum ..   or u will be one of those C hing ..  lol

(I hv those lens about, but 50.8 MKII, so I guess my comment should be fair)


( Ar Lik .. where are you? we need you ! lol )

[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2008-11-5 12:37 編輯 ]
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-11-5 11:49

still the same question:

what do you want to shoot?  portrait? family? street?  scenic? travel? wedding? for $?

i'll say stick with the 24-105 for at least 1-2 years before you sink more $ into it ...
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-5 12:47

部機係ALL PURPOSE 啦…咩都係佢架喇。所以配合方面希望全面少少。
起初相信會係風景小品街頭旅行攝影多啲，主要係用嚟練習手勢。
等到對自己手勢有番咁上下熟識既時候會加入人象攝影。
到咗面面俱圓既時候就考慮去幫人影吓相賺番啲架生錢，呵呵呵… (相信都要好幾年後先得lu )。

50mm f/1.8 II 呢支鏡喺唔夠光既時候係唔係好難自動對焦？呢個就係我喺各大FORUM 見倒最常出現既問題…
不過以一百個大洋咁上下既價錢就有支大光圈玩都應該no complain。

閃燈將會喺我個 【購物清單 - 第二階段】 出現。
我個 【購物清單 - 第一階段】 只係有相機連鏡，MEMORY CARD，相機袋，同埋FILTER。
而個 【購物清單 - 第二階段】 會有閃燈腳架同BATTERY GRIP。
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-11-5 13:57

It's in my experience that the 1Dx series camera focus better/accurately in all lighting condition.  However, once you can very good at it, I think they all focus very well with proper techni.  I use lots of the older non USM prime lens that focus perfectly fine in all condition.

EL
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-5 14:08

NO FLASH TO START ??

HOW CAN YOU TAKE PIC WITHOUT FLASH??   

ESP in DEC ..   after 5PM .. the sky is totally DARK already ..  and many parties .. nite shots .. etc ..

How ???

Kid ..  get a FLASH !!!  


FLASH can help you to do low light focus too ..  

I hv 50mm F1.8 MK I, 50mm F1.4, 50mm Macro, 50mm L ..   which my 50mm MKI is 20 yr old already .. NEVER have any issue for low light photography..   (MK II should be better or at least the same for low light AF)
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-11-5 14:11

CP, you have a metal mount 50/1.8?  how lucky ....
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-5 14:11

Again ..

FLASH FLASH FLASH ..

Anyone   NOT agree FLASH is so damn important ..  come see me !!!!!
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-5 14:15

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-11-5 15:11 發表
CP, you have a metal mount 50/1.8?  how lucky ....



Come on ..  you know me in person ..   3X yr old mid cake ..  of course, 50mm METAL la..  

I am still using it, and take it with me when I go travel 20 yr old lens .. and IMO, can kick many " L " lens users ass .... end up my 50L and 50.4 are more or less collect dust ...

I just want to say again .. " Photo" graphy ..  PHOTO ..  all about LIGHT!!!   LIGHT source is more important then anything!  doesn't matter how high iso nowaday camera can handle!!

[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2008-11-5 15:34 編輯 ]
作者: nikonian    時間: 2008-11-5 20:58

I used to use a all-purpose 28-105mm zoom lens and think that's one of the best lens ( well, consumer grade ) -- until I bought a 50mm f1.8 ( nikon ) and that is simply an eye opener to my new world of photography.  It's sharp, light weight, shallow depth of field, good bokeh, great in low light and easy to focus ( well, Nikon does... not sure on Canon ).  Since then, my 28-105mm got stored in cabinet.  

If you have spare charge for 100 bucks, why not keep an extra toy to compare?

I do agree with what Catpiano says: flash is second to my camera.  I started digital photography with a cheapo D50, while still spent a whole whack on SB-800.  It brightens indoor, and fills under sun.  Even my wife says go get a good flash.  Haha.

Anyway, enjoy
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-6 07:37

  Yes ar ..  I still once a while, using my Rebal ..  still not bad ga ..  better then many " C HING " with D3 tim ..   lol
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-6 11:58

相信第二階段購物清單會喺呢個年尾之前實行，所以年尾前我應該會有閃燈。
多謝大家提出閃燈既重要性。我會好好咁去學習同掌握閃燈既技巧。
我諗住上Amazon 買閃燈，唔知大家有冇咩經驗呢？一支Canon 580 燈喺呢度買要成五百個大洋，Amazon 上面我見三百七美金有交易…計埋匯率都可以慳唔少。保養方面會唔會有問題？
同埋，我諗我會買埋支50mm f/1.8 II。當玩具都好吖…呵呵呵呵…
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-6 12:50

$370 US = $450 Cad as today buying rate ..  shipping will be another $30 or so ....  then you "MAY" need to pay duty ..   then same price, you better buy here, esp electronic item ..  

However, Canon Canada just increased the price for 5D, from $2,799 cad to $3,099.


DON'T SEE PHOTOGRAPHY GEARS as 玩具 ... that is insulting ...
作者: 貓    時間: 2008-11-7 00:07

話當佢係「玩具」，只係因為佢價錢相宜，完全冇侮辱佢既意思…放鬆點放鬆點…
用咁多大草字嚟提醒小弟，攪到我都要問吓自己係唔係講得過份咗…

部機好彩預訂咗，所以呢次價錢調整對我冇咩影響…阿彌陀佛。我都見而家個價錢升咗

美國有郵箱，應該慳倒shipping 同duty，而且仲慳埋gst 同pst。都有成舊水既分別。如果唔係有咩保養問題既話，我諗我都應該會online order。只係睇吓有冇前輩有咩保貴既經驗可以提供以作參考。
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-11-7 09:19

out of curiosity ... why not Nikon?
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-7 10:01

Nikon is not as "COOL " as Canon ar ma ...  ( in public mind )

D700 is damn good camera ..  most likely better then 5DII beside MP and movie.

I prefer the spec on D700 then 5DII ...  however ..   
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-11-7 10:06

I had a friends' friend looking at my Canon and told me the Pros should be using Nikon. (and he isn't even a photographer)

作者: daimo    時間: 2008-11-7 10:07

to be honest .. if I have NO equipment right now I'll seriously try out Nikon.
作者: 吳孟達    時間: 2008-11-7 11:39

Canon rules....

why?

Because Avril is using it now...haha

"My Elph, My Way"...

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作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-7 12:04

Canon and Nikon sale is pretty close now ..  may be Canon sell more in N/A market.

Just like SONY is doing well in CHINA ... " IT IS A SONY"  wor .. so mainlander love SONY .. somehow.

Well .. there are so so many DSLR users now ..  with NEAR zero experience in photography ..  but talk as "RO" too ..  

Well ..  internet world ..  anyone can own Ferrari ..  Lambo .. Porsche ...  ONLINE.. right??

Daimo ..  I think it doesn't matter what Pro use ..  Nikon or Canon or Leaf or Red Dot ...  people look at their OUTCOME .. not gear.

However, GEAR is important for BLOW water ...   
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-11-7 16:10

I am no pro, and I talk all day long about photography =P  Now, hang me a Sony please !_!

原帖由 Catpiano 於 2008-11-7 12:04 發表
Canon and Nikon sale is pretty close now ..  may be Canon sell more in N/A market.

Just like SONY is doing well in CHINA ... " IT IS A SONY"  wor .. so mainlander love SONY .. somehow.

Well .. there ...
作者: jake123    時間: 2008-11-11 13:57

原帖由 貓 於 2008-11-6 12:58 發表
相信第二階段購物清單會喺呢個年尾之前實行，所以年尾前我應該會有閃燈。
多謝大家提出閃燈既重要性。我會好好咁去學習同掌握閃燈既技巧。
我諗住上Amazon 買閃燈，唔知大家有冇咩經驗呢？一支Canon 580  ...


Just a note, last time I heard Amazon US doesn't sell photo stuffs to Canada.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-12 11:33

  My buddy went to a camera store to order 5DII last weekend ..

He is # 153 ....     Econ Crisis ?

And that is only ONE store ..
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2008-11-12 11:50

Econ crisis doesn't mean people don't buy Canon...
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-12 23:23

But   lower end camera ..  dirt cheap here wor ..
$899  450D with 18-55IS and 55-250IS ..  
作者: B2L2    時間: 2008-11-13 09:16

We got our Xsi at ~$850 when it was on-sale 1-2 months back.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2008-11-13 11:58

good good ..



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