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作者: Toppy    時間: 2008-12-31 14:59     標題: 回流 back to Hong Kong?

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作者: goldie    時間: 2008-12-31 16:38

I am poor too,
but I totally love it here.
Poor people are happier in Canada.

作者: CWong    時間: 2008-12-31 17:47

I'm poor too!  等緊仲649買家档返香港!
作者: ricrick    時間: 2008-12-31 18:35

香港地方細、生活指數底,壓力大,洗費大,錢又搵吾多,月月清冇得淨
如果吾介意悶,香港其實無乜野可取,得閒返去打個轉,shop下ping就夠了
作者: alee    時間: 2008-12-31 20:25

i prefer the more laid-back type of lifestyle here. the recent snow was a downer. but hk has typhoon season. the humid summer needing a/c indoors can cause illness easily. i do miss the convenience at times, but not everything i want can all be at one place

i'll consider moving back if i'm up for the faster paced life in hk
作者: peter236    時間: 2008-12-31 22:40

But most people went back already?
作者: Toppy    時間: 2008-12-31 22:59

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作者: Ultraman    時間: 2009-1-1 01:07

It might be cruel to say, but if you want to consider in which country you can gain more money, you should rather consider if you are a money making person or not. If you are talented enough, you should be able to make money anywhere.
作者: MyOMy    時間: 2009-1-1 01:15

You are actually quite good, I am driving a beatup Toyota. Many are driving Kia...............

Don't  take people on only one of their appearance, people don't exactly live like what he/she appears to be or what you think.  A lot of people are dead broke and still driving MB, they need to mainain their appearance to get by.

I ain't no rich person and I knew no rich person who had told me their stories that I can re-tell here.

IMHO: If you are right at the border line to move back to HK, stories won't help you to make a decision. Everybody has his/her own fate. When you decide to go, just go and don't look back until you are satisfied with what you are.

Happy New Year !
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2009-1-1 01:17

原帖由 Toppy 於 2008-12-31 23:05 發表
When I started this thread, I was hoping to hear some rich people stories.

Like those people who drive Volvo, BMW, Lexus, Benz and their "care-free" life in Canada?
(I am poor, so I only drive a Toyo ...

Very wrong concept! People driving Volvo, BMW, Lexus and Benz means rich? It could be the other way round, many people spend most of their money on good looking and show-off type vehicles (and clothing) but then have less savings and other assets. I know a friend who only drives a Toyota Camry and dresses non-branded names but has a few apartments/houses for rent and as investment. Sometimes truly rich people are not necessary to show off to others.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2009-1-1 01:22

原帖由 MyOMy 於 2009-1-1 01:15 發表
You are actually quite good, I am driving a beatup Toyota. Many are driving Kia...............

Don't  take people on only one of their appearance, people don't exactly live like what he/she appears t ...

Exactly! Would people feel jealous when they see a prostitute wearing Burberry, LV, Prada, Hermes... all over her body? Wakaka.... You gotta "know" the story behind.
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-1 01:25

我x!!
到x到都要捱嫁啦!!
只係捱x完番屋企可唔可以清靜下啫!!
同埋香港成個城市怨氣好重,
個個人都西口西面,
雖然呢邊都越黎越多西口西面既人.
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-1 01:30

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 00:05 發表
When I started this thread, I was hoping to hear some rich people stories.

Like those people who drive Volvo, BMW, Lexus, Benz and their "care-free" life in Canada?
(I am poor, so I only drive a Toyo ...


ppl who said they can't find any chances in here and went back to HK, please ask yourself first, how much did you dwell into the richmond and chinese community??
That's why you don't fit in here.
作者: chihiro    時間: 2009-1-1 01:42

Toppy,

我反而覺得呢到好多機會,所以我唔會回流番香港。
作者: fibbi    時間: 2009-1-1 02:29

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 00:00 發表



What do you love about here?  I think poor people are worse off in Canada than in Hong Kong.


I don't quite get it, why poor people are worse off in Canada. First there is free health care (in HK there is also free health care but you would want to pay to get better health care). So poor people are actually getting better treatment here. And poor people can also get EI.
作者: fibbi    時間: 2009-1-1 02:32

Actually, if I'm poor, I'd rather live here than HK. People here don't really care what cloth you wear, what type of cell phone you use. In HK, people like to compare...

Also, too much stress in HK...

But having said that, still I think HK has more opportunities. Why I don't go back? I have a stable job here and also I enjoy more lay back life style...
作者: rockypath    時間: 2009-1-1 04:44     標題: 回復 10# 的帖子

Sorry. Rich people won't be on forum. They are busy on golfing or ballroom dancing.
People like us who do not have extra money for entertaiment. Chating here is free and entertaining. Any that is why we all hang around here.
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-1 05:36

原帖由 rockypath 於 2009-1-1 05:44 發表
Sorry. Rich people won't be on forum. They are busy on golfing or ballroom dancing.
People like us who do not have extra money for entertaiment. Chating here is free and entertaining. Any that is why ...


咪咁坦白啦......
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-1 07:11

原帖由 Toppy 於 2008-12-31 23:59 發表



Are you really from Hong Kong?  Have you watched TVB's 更上一層樓?


any house shown on 更上一層樓 cost at least 30m  with 5m plus in renovation.
作者: 大C姐    時間: 2009-1-1 07:15

原帖由 Toppy 於 2008-12-31 23:59 發表



Are you really from Hong Kong?  Have you watched TVB's 更上一層樓?



我集集追﹐當然香港有紙醉金迷嘅一面。

但係我想問你﹐你係咩香港嚟﹐有無追<一百萬人的故事>? 你估住更上一層樓D人多D定係住屋邨D人多D?


作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-1 07:19

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-1 02:07 發表
It might be cruel to say, but if you want to consider in which country you can gain more money, you should rather consider if you are a money making person or not. If you are talented enough, you shou ...


LOL... did u know to be as rich as... let say Jim pattison, you gotta work 4-5 times harder and earn 1/4 the money in canada then you would in doing the same businesses else where.  

making $14 an hour is not call making money.  its call making a living only.

the difference between HK and Here is that depending how you do, there is a much bigger chance of earning much more money.  Here is just earning enough to cover 2 meals, don't even think about being rich.
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-1 07:25

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 00:05 發表
When I started this thread, I was hoping to hear some rich people stories.

Like those people who drive Volvo, BMW, Lexus, Benz and their "care-free" life in Canada?
(I am poor, so I only drive a Toyo ...


Volvo... LOL

BMW, Lexus, Benz... depend on WHAT they drive la...  you know a 323i, IS250, C230, those cars doesnt cost more then a fully loaded camry.  

you remind me of what happened in hk... this kid finally got a E90 323i and told me and my frds "I can finally join your group since I drive a BMW now!"  then my frd replies, "Dude, we all have M3, don't make us look bad with ur base model 323i."
作者: masterbear    時間: 2009-1-1 08:46

原帖由 Hyde 於 2009-1-1 08:25 發表


Volvo... LOL

BMW, Lexus, Benz... depend on WHAT they drive la...  you know a 323i, IS250, C230, those cars doesnt cost more then a fully loaded camry.  

you remind me of what happened in hk... thi ...

Drive Toyota or Honda doesn't mean these drivers not rich gei. Yea their percentage may be lower but some people may not want to spend too much $ for cars but other things else lei
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-1 10:10

thats BS, thats what ppl say when they can't afford a more $$$ car

if they dont want to spend too much money for something that means they are still concern with money and can't afford it.  Yes, they have enough money to buy it
but maybe they have to spend 80% of their spending money to buy it.   but on the other hand, they can buy a decent camry for 20% of the money and spend it on other stuff.  being rich and being able to afford luxury goods is 2 things.
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2009-1-1 10:42

it's diff for everyone. i am happy with life here in general. i don't think i can survive in hk. 2 weeks trip seem too long 4 me there except seeing my friends.
作者: peter236    時間: 2009-1-1 11:18

原帖由 chihiro 於 2009-1-1 02:42 發表
Toppy,

我反而覺得呢到好多機會,所以我唔會回流番香港。


Which job sector do you think is good here?
作者: daimo    時間: 2009-1-1 11:41

this field gotta be much much better paid then HK ...


































Professional hocky ...
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作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-1 12:46

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 13:19 發表


No, I am not talking about show-off.

I am just saying that all the rich people I know went back to Hong Kong already.  I wonder why the other people are staying.


you have to know that there isn't really a place to spend money in canada.

we were just talking about it the other day, even if we had 100k to spend on entertainment at 10PM on a cold winter Tuesday night, there was absolutely nothing we can think of doing with the money other then going to casino.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 13:00

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作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-1 13:17

that the same thing as leaving Vancouver.  thats why all the rich ppl left already.  why the poor ppl stay?  well there is no where to spend money here, isnt that a good thing for ppl with not much money?
they will just get depressed in hk when everything cost money and they don't have any to spend.  HK is some of those places that there is never enough money to spend.  

plus, even if u had money for a private jet here, there is never one available right away unless u book a few weeks ahead of time.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 13:30

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作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-1 14:49

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 13:28 發表


Actually HK don't care about the clothes or cellphone either, it depends on which "Class" of people and where you live.  It is exactly the same here in North America.

訓醒未???
到底你有幾耐冇接觸香港???
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 15:01

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作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-1 15:06

sigh,
NVM.
又多個Hyde & Peter.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 15:09

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作者: goldie    時間: 2009-1-1 15:40

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 00:00 發表
What do you love about here?  I think poor people are worse off in Canada than in Hong Kong.


I do not have much information to compare between Hong Kong and Vancouver.
But I know that when you love a place, you want to, and have the ability to, make it into a better place. I DO.
A lot of people 回流 because they are disappointed: "there is nothing much I can get out of here."
Many do not 回流 because they can relate to all the people here - I mean ALL - not just the Chinese community: "all the people here are part of my life."
My friends could not care less about cars and brands, they enjoy studying or working, they find their life meaningful, they try to help other people as much as they can.
Of course they complain about the snow, the stock market, the workplace, the politics, the war. If you find yourself being looked down upon, its most likely because you are such a stupid moron, not because you are poor economically.

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作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-1 16:04

you don't need to integrate into white people society if u live in richmond
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作者: goldie    時間: 2009-1-1 16:17

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 17:01 發表

What makes you think Vancouver (or Canada) is your place.

Did you shut up, fit in and integrate into White people's society?  
http://www.canada.com/vancouvers ... ?id=19571889-2015-4 ...


Toppy, please read the article your cited in completion and not just the first 3 paragraphs.
Allen said his commentary was intended to discuss immigrant-bashing by citing examples.
作者: 大C姐    時間: 2009-1-1 16:19

其實呢個topic可以一語道破。

有一班人回流左返香港﹐為左堅持自己做岩決定就不停大數香港好處。又有一班人勢死留喺vancouver大數香港不足之處。

其實講到尾﹐講到火紅火綠都係想對方同意自己嘅決定同生活方式。根本呢個世界就從來無絕對﹐你自己個人喜好(唔好話咩階級或者咩產)﹐真係自己個人主觀鍾意住邊咪住邊囉。死拗只係對自己生活缺信心嘅行為。


-- 大C姐

作者: rockypath    時間: 2009-1-1 16:30

As I said. this forum is very entertaining...

Quote from someone else -- " How you look at yourself and people will look at you the same way".

There are much more contents and deeper meaning for "being rich".

I am poor financially but I am rich spiritually.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 16:33

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作者: 布小熊    時間: 2009-1-1 16:42

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 04:33 PM 發表
I know everyone's circumstances is different.  But if you want to lie just so it makes you feel better for living here.  It is kind of sad.

If anyone is 已退休的香港移民, it may be good for you to st ...

actually most of my friends moved to the states... all we want to point out is that diff ppl have diff preference. i know friends who live a good life, career, started and built their family here. i don't think they felt left behind from those who moved back to hk. it's just diff and they work on their choice.
not whine about it.
i love vancouver.

(haha i was so mad that i type this ... long post... even when i can only type with one hand)

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作者: rockypath    時間: 2009-1-1 17:00

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 17:34 發表



If people want to scam you, they will scam you.

It is not about how you look at yourself.


The quote is what the parents of Nick Vujicic told their son when people laughing at him when he was little boy. My friends passed me this on Christmas and I found it encouraging.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtweZxNGk1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LFBqvvW-M&feature=related
作者: chihiro    時間: 2009-1-1 18:31

原帖由 大C姐 於 2009-1-1 17:19 發表
其實呢個topic可以一語道破。

有一班人回流左返香港﹐為左堅持自己做岩決定就不停大數香港好處。又有一班人勢死留喺vancouver大數香港不足之處。

其實講到尾﹐講到火紅火綠都係想對方同意自己嘅決定同生活方式。根本呢 ...


I totally agree.
作者: chihiro    時間: 2009-1-1 18:39

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-1-1 12:18 發表


Which job sector do you think is good here?


聽住,就算你覺得你o係一個好壞o既job sector裡面,只要你有料,肯融入間公司裡面,同埋肯博,你都會有好o既發揮同埋成就。對我來講,其實job sector並無好壞之分。
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-1 19:18

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 17:33 發表
I know everyone's circumstances is different.  But if you want to lie just so it makes you feel better for living here.  It is kind of sad.

If anyone is 已退休的香港移民, it may be good for you to st ...

那快點回去吧!!!
溫哥華很危險的!!!
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2009-1-1 20:55

用左幾分鐘睇呢條thread,expect 有少少比較正路d 既討論.....

睇完,覺得有d 言論好主觀,好片面,同意大部份lyk 既睇法,包括大c姐同moirhapsody 等人,人人既背景,想要既野都唔同,世事無絕對,拗黎好o徒時間。

睇左覺得唔知我up 咩既lyk 唔好意思,呢幾日飲得太多。

- 一位o係加港兩地工作過/工作中既lyk

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作者: peter236    時間: 2009-1-1 21:23

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 22:07 發表


So mad?

Moved to the states?  That's good.  Lower taxes and more opportunities down there.

Whine about it?  You have learned that bad habit from Canada.  Are people whining about what's going on H ...


Why is the US better when they are going bankrupt? Maybe China/Japan will bail them out.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 21:26

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作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-1 21:30

原帖由 spoonek4 於 2009-1-1 21:55 發表
用左幾分鐘睇呢條thread,expect 有少少比較正路d 既討論.....

睇完,覺得有d 言論好主觀,好片面,同意大部份lyk 既睇法,包括大c姐同moirhapsody 等人,人人既背景,想要既野都唔同,世事無絕對,拗黎好o徒時間。

睇左覺得唔知我up ...

對,
想走就走,
要留就留.
係咪搵到個同聲同氣一齐唱好/唱衰温哥華會走得/住得開心啲???
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 21:35

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作者: heykevin    時間: 2009-1-1 22:25

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 16:01 發表



I get in touch with Hong Kong every day.

www.hkreporter.com

go to discuss.com.hk

The hkreporter is not much about HK latest fashion or others.

HK people definitely do make a comparison with one another.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 22:28

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作者: mimo    時間: 2009-1-1 22:48

我都回流左HK幾年﹐其實一直都會掛住Vancouver...兩個唔同地方﹐各有好同唔好﹐睇下個人點衡量邊樣緊要D。So far我響HK工作生活﹐能體會O既係個人變得煩躁左,無時間享受所謂“多姿多彩"生活...錢就算賺多左﹐洗費也同樣大左﹐一樣儲唔到咩錢。
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2009-1-1 23:41

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 09:07 PM 發表
Whine about it?  You have learned that bad habit from Canada.  Are people whining about what's going on H ...

i mean YOU are whining about how bad it is for you to stay in vancouver....
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 23:53

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作者: spoonek4    時間: 2009-1-1 23:53

Toppy: 你或者搵多d 朋友傾訴下同埋再收集多d 睇法﹖

似乎LYK 唔係咁夠大........
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-1 23:56

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作者: 小叻    時間: 2009-1-2 00:12

If people feels like to live in HK then they will go back to HK.
If people feels like to live in Vancouver then they will stay in Vancouver.
No one will force them to stay or go back..It's all their personal decision.
As some LYK said before, they like the Vancouver lifestyle.. so they prefer to stay in Vancouver. I dun think they need to further explain why Vancouver is better than HK.  Like is like..Dislike is dislike.
I like Vancouver lifestyle..so I will stay in Vancouver...but I don't mind going back to HK for vacation to visit my frds and relatives.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 00:15

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作者: 布小熊    時間: 2009-1-2 00:22

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-1 11:53 PM 發表
If it were so good, why did people leave?
Do you know what is an ad hominem attack?

i wrote:
not whine about it.

you instead twisted it and said:
Whine about it?  You have learned that bad habit from Canada.



i stay so you will need to ask ppl who left "why" did they choose to leave.
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-1-2 00:40

你要咪返去香港law
冇$咪自己諗方法

你係lyk到講唔鍾意vancouver

就好似入去教堂到講佛"計"
古惑仔去人地地盤 小人地


你上Vancouver hater.com 上面講你有幾憎Vancouver啦
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2009-1-2 00:54

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-2 00:58 發表
People come and go all the time; it is your own decision.  I am just curious about how people feel about this.  You live your own life in truth or in denial.  No right or wrong answer.


兩地都有唔同既精彩同埋暗淡既一面,針係冇兩頭利。對我黎講我就算宜家選擇唔住o係hk,都唔等於hk 好差好差,亦都唔等於我逃避緊d 咩野。

我宜家搵到我大部份需要既野,做緊我鐘意做既野,enjoy緊呢度既人同埋事,當然如果可以再improve我會追求好一d ,但絕對唔會強求。
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-2 01:15

ALL THE POOR PPL STFU!!!!!
someone only wants to hear from the rich ppl.........


作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-1-2 01:26

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2009-1-2 02:15 發表
ALL THE POOR PPL STFU!!!!!
someone only wants to hear from the rich ppl.........


小喇叭
有$ 都唔很得閒上forum啦


你幾時聽過 阿賭王上forum
d 名媛紳士 唔去ball場 同你係網上"爹"

[ 本帖最後由 Derek128 於 2009-1-2 02:34 編輯 ]
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-1-2 01:30

原帖由 Derek128 於 2009-1-2 02:26 發表

小喇叭
有$ 都唔很得閒上forum啦

Hyde好有錢嫁!!!(好似係)
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-1-2 01:38

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2009-1-2 02:30 發表

Hyde好有錢嫁!!!(好似係)

可能係佢有$到 超越左/厭倦左 d ball 場生活
黎個返璞歸真 玩下草根o既生活方式
作者: daimo    時間: 2009-1-2 04:15

Toppy,

sounds like if people don't agree with you then they are either

a) in denial mode
b) poor
作者: rockypath    時間: 2009-1-2 04:20

Forum = " Paradise for poor people"
作者: daimo    時間: 2009-1-2 04:24

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-2 00:58 發表

You live your own life in truth or in denial.  No right or wrong answer ...


so that means people's answer are not necessary wrong, just that they are living in denial!?

This is going to be the the first LYK 金句 of 2009
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2009-1-2 11:39

Toppy:  just go ahead and pursuit whatever you think is right for yourself, you don't have to convince everyone to agree what you think.

I graduated and went back to Asia, worked in China/HK (total of 2~3 yrs), now I'm back here making a decent living, does that mean everyone should follow my footsteps, i don't think so.

I believe you are still young, just go wild and chase your dream.
作者: ricrick    時間: 2009-1-2 12:18

每個人際遇吾同,你來得LYK就知大部份人鐘意留係溫哥華Hea
無慾無求,立地成佛
實際上真有好多人回流,我90%的朋友都回去,全部父母在香港、香港有物業,不用交租以是天上地下的分別,你可知香港生活艱難過加拿大幾千倍,租個狗住的垃圾地方以用上一半以上人工,還有衣食行呢?為何甘辛苦得兩餐?同一價錢,在香港與溫哥華的生活真的天與地。

你可能係香港搵到好多錢,但我就試過係香港無糧出,有d老細真係好歹毒,加拿大的保障就好好多
有錢人點想,我就吾知。但如果有錢,到那裡住都不是問題
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 12:51

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作者: peter236    時間: 2009-1-2 12:56

Depending on where you live in Hong Kong, property prices are actually be quite affordable. But here the prices are still high even if we are in a recession. If you need to buy a car here than it is even more expenses than in HK. As for food and clothing, you can always buy the cheap stuffs whether in HK or Vancouver..
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 12:59

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作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 13:06

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作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 13:08

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作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 13:12

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作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-1-2 13:16

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-1-2 13:56 發表
Depending on where you live in Hong Kong, property prices are actually be quite affordable. But here the prices are still high even if we are in a recession. If you need to buy a car here than it is e ...


you actually said something intelligent for once
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 13:21

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作者: fibbi    時間: 2009-1-2 14:58

原帖由 Toppy 於 2008-12-31 15:59 發表
Thanks for the replies on my 1st thread.
http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/vi ... &extra=page%3D1

How come you people don't 回流 back to Hong Kong?

I have been here since 1993 ... can't  ...


If I'm poor, I will choose to go back to HK to 搏一搏, spend some time to find a job to see whether I can find a job better than what I made here.
I'm staying here, not because I'm rich, just I'm lucky to get a rather stable job here and made enough (just enough) to survive. 發達?冇諗過。Even though I may make more in HK, the working hour must be longer, stress level is higher, not worth it.
作者: Toppy    時間: 2009-1-2 15:07

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