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作者: Yui 時間: 2009-2-18 13:54 標題: Average Salary of LYK

Just curious on how much salary lyk make on average.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-2-18 14:18

What does "others" mean??

作者: Yui 時間: 2009-2-18 14:22

No income; such as full-time students

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-2-18 14:27

$0 is also less than $15,000

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 14:28

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作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-18 14:32

你唔得，唔代表人地唔得（除了H生之外）

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-2-18 14:34

H生 said his daily income is higher then our YEARLY income .. and he said his income is HIGHER then the rest of LYK combined ga ...

作者: saotome 時間: 2009-2-18 14:40

噢！LYK 好多有錢人！

$70,000 - $99,999: 4
more than $100,000: 3

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-18 14:41

原帖由 Catpiano 於 2009-2-18 15:34 發表
H生 said his daily income is higher then our YEARLY income .. and he said his income is HIGHER then the rest of LYK combined ga ...

OH，原來吹咁大，我太新，我唔知原來比我見到嘅POST更誇張添～

作者: hium 時間: 2009-2-18 14:45

Others... cuz i'm a C9

作者: Serenade 時間: 2009-2-18 14:50

Trust me... in my company... my supervisors are easily earning 100,000 a year... a lot more for those higher ups. And we are talking about exponentially, in real numbers.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 14:50

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作者: MSN04 時間: 2009-2-18 14:51

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-18 15:28 發表
Earn more than $100,000 a year? Doing what?

It is not nice to lie, losers.

lol, there are a lot of people making more than 100k a year...

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2009-2-18 14:51

An experienced accountant make more than $100,000/year

doctor / accountant / dentist etc charge $150/hr

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 14:53

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 15:03

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作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-2-18 15:14

Any leaders, and some senior EE will make over 100k easy before bonus and equities.

The poll should give finer granularity for salary between 100k to 500k. I'm sure there's got to be doctors here making 200k range, etc. Should also have seperate one for business owner's which ain't even a salary anymore (maybe should specify that 'others' is for that purpose).

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作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-2-18 15:15

EE? Electrical Engineering?

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-2-18 15:15

not sure about now but we had doctors, dentists, accountants and other professionals on lyk before. so we could still have some here now.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-2-18 15:17

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2009-2-18 15:15 發表
EE? Electrical Engineering?

Yes

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-2-18 15:39

Electrical engineering still pays more than software engineering.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-2-18 15:42

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-2-18 16:39 發表
Electrical engineering still pays more than software engineering.

I think EE is much harder.

Making a circuit / chip, involves a lot more risk.

Software engineering... is easy to get in and make things work, but not easy to get good at it.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-2-18 15:43

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-2-18 15:39 發表
Electrical engineering still pays more than software engineering.

I should clarify, EE as in Electronics, don't know too much about Electrical. I am thinking along the line of low amperage ~ electronics, high amperage - electrical...

Where electronics does have a certain amount of SW, FW, etc. Hardware design is often just VHDL logic coding anyways, among other things of course.

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作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-18 15:48

In SE (software engineering) field, people often can get >100K if in senior or management level la.

作者: Dai_C 時間: 2009-2-18 16:00

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-18 15:28 發表
Earn more than $100,000 a year? Doing what?

It is not nice to lie, losers.

收聲喇你Toppy ~ 呢排見到你就吾舒服自以為好知世界行情乜都有你份仲要係代表果隻
你吾得就覺得冇其他人做得到你既眼界有幾大係老有記已有目共睹
再吾自動收皮你個朵就越黎越臭成為千古笑話

係Vancouver做個掃地吸塵既工人年新hit到十萬大有人在仲要係after tax 更吾好講其它職業
你盡管吾信盡情鬧Vancouver 盡情鬧老友記D人喇盡情鬧呢個世界但我講既都係血淋淋既事實
所有人都係無能白痴仔係你Toppy最高級因為你更超越神自以為事既温神!!

"It is not nice to lie, losers" <== 呢句話已足夠比人再度丙你自强不息既可憐蟲!

作者: tofu 時間: 2009-2-18 16:09

why someone doesn't believe others can make over $100,000/yr?
had he ever read the following news.
" TTC TICKET COLLECTOR rakes in $100Gs last year "
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/04/02/5174216-sun.html

i believe those people who are in the medical field can easily make $100,000.  remember people get 1.5x - 3x pay when they work overtime. and the salary on your t4 included some of your paid benefits as well.

if you don't satisfy with you low-paid job, you should spend more time to upgrade yourself in-order to get a better job.  rather than questioning the others.
or if you are too stupid to upgrade yourself, just work harder la.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 16:09

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 16:12

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作者: Yui 時間: 2009-2-18 16:13

PayScale Canada - interesting poll, check it out

http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Country=Canada/Salary/by_Job

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 16:15

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作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-2-18 16:27

What currency is this? CAD?
What's the exchange rate today?

作者: tofu 時間: 2009-2-18 16:29

TTC ticket collector rakes in $100Gs last year.

he was not lucky, he asked for the overtime. he doesn't look like someone who just keep complaining, but do nothing.

as i mentioned before, there is nothing wrong of being a stupid person, but you should either work hard to earn more, or shut-up and believe someone is smarter than you and make more than you.

BTW, his case was not typical, there was almost 400 people made over $100.000 at TTC.

作者: Yui 時間: 2009-2-18 16:35

原帖由 快樂牛郎 於 2009-2-18 17:27 發表
What currency is this? CAD?
What's the exchange rate today?

Currency in CAD; I believe the exchange rate is $1 CAD to $1.20 USD.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 16:38

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作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-2-18 16:44

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-18 16:15 發表
Somebody mentioned Electronics Engineering job.

I don't doubt the payscale, but how many of these jobs in Vancouver?

I mean Vancouver, BC, Canada, not Vancouver WA.

Not a lot, a few thousand maybe? I mean, not a lot compared to California and such. There are some 300/400 sitting near where I am sitting now tho, not counting other companies near-by few blocks from where I work.

作者: 小叻 時間: 2009-2-18 16:50

你地賺甘多咪要俾好多稅囉? 有無特別方法可以俾少D? 除了RRSP。我每年都俾得好心疼~

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 16:54

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作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-2-18 16:54

原帖由 Yui 於 2009/2/18 16:35 發表

Currency in CAD; I believe the exchange rate is $1 CAD to $1.20 USD.

OK, I casted my answer.

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2009-2-18 17:07

一個Survey仔都要拗，算啦，又唔係聽日囉上明報登出黎，信咪信，唔信咪算

作者: tofu 時間: 2009-2-18 17:08

Pls don't ask me "where is the source" again. I included the link on my original post, you don't know how to click on it?!? if you don't how to click on the link, pls google it.

if you read the news, it mentioned that he asks for the overtime.

"Don't you think other people want to do this lucrataive overtime, too?  Other people are stupid and don't about overtime?"

people don't want to work for overtime because they have more important thing to do.  money maybe the top issue for you, but not for everyone.  most people want to spend more time with their family, hobby or....

btw, everyone has his/her own thought.  it may be same as yours, maybe not.  but it doesn't mean s/he is stupid anyway.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 17:16

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作者: tofu 時間: 2009-2-18 17:45

"I see many TTC employees are on that list clearly because of the overtime"

this is what i try to tell you. some people are smart and get a high paid job. some people work hard to get more income.

so please do more research before you called others as liars or losers. as i reasonable person, it is not that hard to earn $100,000, just depends on do you want to. so many people are doing two/three jobs at the same time.

作者: Yui 時間: 2009-2-18 17:48

估吾到有甘多lyk人工甘高,各位高薪厚職既老友(人工有十萬八萬個幾位),你地做盛行架?

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作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-2-18 17:51

i don't make 100,000 plus but some of my friends do. so i am not surprise some lyk do as well.
well... it's only a casual survey. so if you don't believe it, just ignore it. there is nothing to argue about.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-18 18:00

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作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-2-18 18:00

Hee... count ng count oversea assets?

Maybe some ppl here have business in HK or elsewhere.

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2009-2-18 18:23

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-18 15:28 發表
Earn more than $100,000 a year? Doing what?

It is not nice to lie, losers.

$100﹐000有幾多呀?

當然﹐呢個唔係小數﹐excuse me﹐我唔係誇大我嘅財富。但係香港任何一間大公司﹐所有部門經理級(HR Manager,Procurement Manager,etc etc)都有5萬蚊一個月啦(即係差唔多$100﹐000CAD﹐唔計零頭)。

呢度月薪過8千都真係唔少﹐我都信有LYK賺到呢個數。

-- 死窮鬼

作者: tofu 時間: 2009-2-18 19:03

"How many TTC employees are there?
Answer: About 11,235 employees

How many earn more than $100,000?
Answer: 388"

what is your point?

are  you try to say only a small portion earning over $100,000?

remember, it doesn't mean the rest of the group are earning low income.  they may earn $99999 wow.  i don't have the figure on hand, if you like you can search it out.  also most of their employees are drivers and ticket collectors, not a high paid job.  they got most of their salary by working overtime.

my message is "if someone works hard, s/he can earn $100000/yr as well.  so don't call anyone loser or liar just because s/he declare her/his earning is $100,000+.

I don't surprise you have a low-paid job, but trust others earn that much la.

作者: benyaoguai 時間: 2009-2-18 21:41

ppl~ just .. ignore him.....

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-18 22:20

就算十萬年薪，1個月扣埋稅，都係得＄6000幾，仲未計RRSP，其他開支。其實如果計番港紙，＄50000 一個月都算係中產，但係唔算係好有錢個隻囉。

作者: Yui 時間: 2009-2-18 22:46

打工一族稅就一定無得走,不過稅後收入有$6000落袋係vancouver都好好洗啦.儲錢容易得多.

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2009-2-18 23:05

原帖由 fibbi 於 2009-2-18 23:20 發表
就算十萬年薪，1個月扣埋稅，都係得＄6000幾，仲未計RRSP，其他開支。其實如果計番港紙，＄50000 一個月都算係中產，但係唔算係好有錢個隻囉。

你RRSP果D又唔好計埋啦﹐你喺HK都要供多兩份保險姐。

你6000幾喺vancouver都算中產啦﹐不過唔算好有錢囉﹐學你話齋。所以我咪話$100000唔係好多囉。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-18 23:42

RRSP 可以買成18% 喎，供保險唔會供兩成掛。我都想有100K，可惜冇哩。。。呢個月買埋RRSP，戶口由零開始，諗起都心傷

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-2-19 00:15

原帖由 fibbi 於 2009-2-18 16:48 發表
In SE (software engineering) field, people often can get >100K if in senior or management level la.

But how many are in management level? Even Microsoft is laying off people now.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-2-19 00:20

原帖由 fibbi 於 2009/2/18 23:42 發表
RRSP 可以買成18% 喎，供保險唔會供兩成掛。我都想有100K，可惜冇哩。。。呢個月買埋RRSP，戶口由零開始，諗起都心傷

唔中意可以唔買架

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-2-19 01:46

原帖由 fibbi 於 2009-2-18 23:20 發表
就算十萬年薪，1個月扣埋稅，都係得＄6000幾，仲未計RRSP，其他開支。其實如果計番港紙，＄50000 一個月都算係中產，但係唔算係好有錢個隻囉。

even if u earn $500000 a month and you are still consider as middle class in hk.

the rich one talk in billions now LOL

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-19 04:12

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作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-19 10:41

原帖由 快樂牛郎 於 2009-2-19 01:20 發表
唔中意可以唔買架

You are right, but if I don't buy then don't get the tax return...probably need to pay tax too. So RRSP is a "must" to me, although I don't really like it.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-19 10:44

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-2-19 01:15 發表
But how many are in management level? Even Microsoft is laying off people now.

There are different level of management ...If you work around 7-10 years (which I believed some LYK could be if in their late 20s or early 30s, you should have worked at some kind of senior level or project management level la.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-19 10:48

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-19 05:12 發表
$6,000 CAD a month = $37206 HK dollar.

Not even great salary in Hong Kong ... but for "cheap and backward" Canada, how many people get to earn $100,000 CAD a year?

Taxes are high (income tax 40% and ...

Quality of life doesn't always count in terms on $. The fresh air here, is priceless.
I don't know how many people earn $100K a year but I can tell you with around 10 yrs of experience, in Software or Engineering field, a person could get close to $100K if not more.

作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-2-19 10:57

原帖由 fibbi 於 2009-2-19 00:42 發表
RRSP 可以買成18% 喎，供保險唔會供兩成掛。我都想有100K，可惜冇哩。。。呢個月買埋RRSP，戶口由零開始，諗起都心傷

買左你拿回退稅咪唔係由零開始囉

而家退稅真係好快﹐ 3-5 天就收到了

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-2-19 11:28

$100k is so little money nowadays, that I don't even know why people are making a big fuzz out of it. I'm not saying I make a lot of money/I have a lot of money because I don't. But at 100k a year you I don't think you can even relaxedly support a family of 4. aka, maintain mortgage on a single house in Burnaby/Vancouver, family vacation off North America every year, maintain 3 cars and exepct to change them every 5 - 8 years. And not need to worry about money on a day to day basis.

Even if we are talking about 100k a year after tax, it still not going to be enough money to live a relaxed life. Probably need 100k dual after tax income to live comfortably enough that you don't need to sweat about cash every other day...

And don't even get started in HK. There are so many people making < 10k HKD a month and still trying to maintain a family that it's not even funny. The rich in HK is rich, but I highly doubt the median salary is anywhere near a level where you can live without looking you are poor...

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作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-19 11:44

唔係話頂撞你，不過我好奇。。。小康之家係咪真係咁大想頭，每年出國玩一次，三架車？

到你要三部車嘅時候，D仔女都大，可以自己供下。兩公婆都唔一定要有兩架車啦，係咪？我心目中嘅小康之家，係要供樓，隔兩三年去玩一次勁嘅，屋企兩部車倒咋。。。

嚟度加拿大有幾多（加埋西人）係真係搵得咁多喎。。。好多家庭，兩公婆加埋都唔知夠唔夠個個100k數啦。好多人都係咁過生活。嚟度係冇得話RELAX咁養家，長命功夫長命做。。。邊度都係。

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作者: salad_bread 時間: 2009-2-19 12:10

我屋企5個人4架車wor ....
第5架黎緊添啦~

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-19 12:15

我意思係，你唔會五架車都要啊爸啊媽出錢架嘛。。。
除非你PARENTS好搭水啦。。。

作者: 小叻 時間: 2009-2-19 12:25

靠父母既錢買車去玩有什麼了不起? 自己賺錢買車買樓唔用爹D媽咪錢先講野啦。

作者: Yui 時間: 2009-2-19 12:53

原帖由 fibbi 於 2009-2-19 11:48 發表

Quality of life doesn't always count in terms on $. The fresh air here, is priceless.
I don't know how many people earn $100K a year but I can tell you with around 10 yrs of experience, in Software ...

In my opinion, it is not that ideal, 8-10 years experience is not that much, unless this person is very smart, political competence, and fairly lucky. My hubby works in this industry and he knows many good people in the field who have master / doctoral degrees, been in the industry for WAY more than 10 years, in-depth experiences and very knowledgable. Unless they are in managerial positions, salary range was only around only $80K - $90K. Bonus on top could reach $100K, but not just base salary.

作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-2-19 13:11

原帖由小叻於 2009-2-19 13:25 發表
靠父母既錢買車去玩有什麼了不起? 自己賺錢買車買樓唔用爹D媽咪錢先講野啦。

同意極~~~

作者: pepsis2 時間: 2009-2-19 13:17

ha... so funny... let's see what's happening outside the world of LYKs... according to statistics Canada, the average household income for 2006 is "$67,600".. this is the # of 2 or more ppl in a family (household),
for individual the income is $28,500
(those $$ is after tax)

so u think making more than $10k / month is easy??? rethink about it.... a frd or 2 who make this salary doesn't mean anything... u may know more than 100+ ppl...

http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/famil21a-eng.htm

作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-2-19 13:21

原帖由 pepsis2 於 2009-2-19 14:17 發表
ha... so funny... let's see what's happening outside the world of LYKs... according to statistics Canada, the average household income for 2006 is "$67,600".. this is the # of 2 or more ppl in a famil ...

或者人地做律師醫生﹐生活圈子都係那些人﹐所以咪撞口撞面都起碼一萬蚊以上一個月囉﹐呵呵。。。

但係﹐我只係覺得奇怪﹐我自己聊天就從不會將月薪或年薪掛在口邊的﹐所以唔知我朋友的賺多少錢的。。。原來有D人會﹖

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-2-19 13:23

原帖由 Littleprince 於 2009-2-19 01:21 PM 發表

或者人地做律師醫生﹐生活圈子都係那些人﹐所以咪撞口撞面都起碼一萬蚊以上一個月囉﹐呵呵。。。

但係﹐我只係覺得奇怪﹐我自己聊天就從不會將月薪或年薪掛在口邊的﹐所以唔知我朋友的賺多少錢的。。。原來有D人會﹖ ...

none of my friends chat about how much they make but well you can guess... those like doctor or dentist or managers...

作者: pepsis2 時間: 2009-2-19 13:25

re 布小熊:

wa? mug u guess jar??? gum funny?????????

I guess my boss makes $1M tim la!

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-2-19 13:40

some of that is sensible guess. i know how much I make and i know my friends are doing better than i do.
btw i only talk about the guessing in the reply. there is nothing to do with this survey.
and i am not surprise some lyk make 100k before tax.

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作者: salad_bread 時間: 2009-2-19 14:13

原帖由 B仔於 2009-2-19 13:15 發表
我意思係，你唔會五架車都要啊爸啊媽出錢架嘛。。。
除非你PARENTS好搭水啦。。。

我架車同我媽子架車都係我俾錢買架wor~
你比2成做downpayment，一個月都係幾百蚊之嘛
買半個袋都唔夠啦~

我屋企就唔洗供樓，所以D錢就鬆少少lor~

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2009-2-19 14:16

原帖由 pepsis2 於 2009-2-19 14:25 發表
re 布小熊:

wa? mug u guess jar??? gum funny?????????

I guess my boss makes $1M tim la!

我都估計我老細個個月都最少有兩皮野落袋
我係根據公司既財政狀況黎估架

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-19 14:30

原帖由 salad_bread 於 2009-2-19 15:13 發表

我架車同我媽子架車都係我俾錢買架wor~
你比2成做downpayment，一個月都係幾百蚊之嘛
買半個袋都唔夠啦~

我屋企就唔洗供樓，所以D錢就鬆少少lor~

我知，我係拿再之前個個人嘅EXAMPLE嚟計，話一個屋企要每年出去NORTH AMERICA以外嘅旅行，要有三架車。所以我先話，冇理由要個兩公婆比哂，到要多過兩架車嘅時候，D仔女都可以自己供／買啦～咁囉。。。

哈哈哈。。。你唔好引我。（好彩嚟排冇咩吸引姐～）我好耐冇買靚袋～係上個月買左條三舊水嘅裙。。。而家我地有兩層樓渣手，要慳D。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-19 14:40

原帖由 B仔於 2009-2-19 12:44 發表
唔係話頂撞你，不過我好奇。。。小康之家係咪真係咁大想頭，每年出國玩一次，三架車？
到你要三部車嘅時候，D仔女都大，可以自己供下。兩公婆都唔一定要有兩架車啦，係咪？我心目中嘅小康之家，係要供樓，隔兩三年去玩一次勁嘅，屋企兩 ...

IMO, my definition of 小康之家 has more spare $ that can afford travel once a year. The family may have mortgage but at least 2 cars. And still have some money left after all the expenses. But it's not easy to be like that in Canada lor...
If the medium is $60K annual salary per family, it's hard to afford even travel once every 2 years la. Don't even mention $ left...
Yes I agree it's harder to save $ (or make $), but living standard doesn't only count on $. The living environment counts too. Like I said, the clean air here is priceless. Look outside today, from Richmond I can see the mountain in Vancouver side. That's at least 30KM and it's no way to have the same visibility in Hong Kong.

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-19 14:49

fibbi,
哈哈哈，可能我太CANADIANIZED，我冇咁狼～我有層樓供，有一兩架車就夠滿足掛。得閒有少少錢淨比我裝吓身，隔兩三年去一次長途旅行。。。= my 小康之家

I agree嚟度環境太舒適，我好ENJOY，返工唔算人工好高，但係冇壓力，冇乜野做，成日有酒飲有野食。。。KAKAKA

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作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-19 15:09

原帖由 B仔於 2009-2-19 15:49 發表
fibbi,
哈哈哈，可能我太CANADIANIZED，我冇咁狼～我有層樓供，有一兩架車就夠滿足掛。得閒有少少錢淨比我裝吓身，隔兩三年去一次長途旅行。。。= my 小康之家

I agree嚟度環境太舒適，我好ENJOY，返工唔算人工好高，但係冇壓力，冇 ...

B jai, I enjoy living here too, although I dont't make 100K per year, I can't afford long distance travel every year too. And I cna't afford my own property either. But at least we have clean air, and perhaps less stress (in general).

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-2-19 15:20

原帖由 fibbi 於 2009-2-19 03:09 PM 發表

B jai, I enjoy living here too, although I dont't make 100K per year, I can't afford long distance travel every year too. And I cna't afford my own property either. But at least we have clean air, a ...

agree as well. i can't afford big trip every year either. after car payment and mortgage ...not much saving la.
my last big trip was 2007 nov, air tix was on points, i stay for free with my sister and my friend but i still felt so broke after the trip. next one may be 2010... i hope.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-19 15:30

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-19 15:39

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作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-19 15:50

原帖由 布小熊 於 2009-2-19 16:20 發表

agree as well. i can't afford big trip every year either. after car payment and mortgage ...not much saving la.
my last big trip was 2007 nov, air tix was on points, i stay for free with my sister an ...

我都係。。。供兩邊，車嘅開資，燈油火蠟，一個禮拜煮AT LEAST 4／五餐。。。唔係好多淨架咋。不過點都好過返香港，打死都唔制

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-2-19 15:54

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-19 16:39 發表

Fresh air ... I used to believe in that argument until I see what's going on in Hastings street in Downtown Vancouver.

If you don't have money, you live in a high-crime, dirty, crappy neighborhood. ...

on9,隨了你之外，冇人住係HASTINGS紅燈區比人插架。

你收聲，我兩層樓都係第一手OWNER，新起嘅。

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-2-19 16:11

5 ppl 4 cars is not that surprising....  we have like 10 cars with 6 ppl in hk... and its not even enough to use, this is 3 SUV, 1 Van, 1 station wagon, 1 sedan, 1 coupe and 3 sports car.

but with 6k a month after tax here, it would be pretty good....  but then, the cost of high standard living is much lower then hk....  you can easily get a decent apartment for 300k and a nicer car for 80-90k (M3, C63, X5, Q7 etc). the same quality of housing and cars would run at least double in hk.  let say u spend 3.5k on mortgage and car and expense, you still have 2.5k to spend or save a month...
in hk....  with the same amount a month...  you'd consider yourself lucky to own a small apartment and have drive a honda civic.  and see in tea restaurant everyday.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2009-2-19 16:34

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-19 16:30 發表

That's why I called these people LIARS here.

Boy, don't you know what is a survey? Google it if you need.

  What's so surprise when the result here doesn't fall with the norm statistics data.  Especially you know by now that all LYK are really special and not any common Canadian.  Haha..

We aren't people that quote a "so call" research and die-hard believe on everything it says (statistic is probably the easiest to manipulate by people anyway).  We understand it is a small scale survey local in this forum and it isn't for any scientific research.  Why people have to lie here, and who deserves to be called as a liar.  People may accept your apologies if you're willing to do that.

Didn't you already know what is "與整體機會並無關係"?  Once I heard, it was a famous statement made by a famous person.  Maybe you could google that too.

作者: tofu 時間: 2009-2-19 16:37

"""Toppy 2009-2-19 16:30 81#
原帖由 pepsis2 於 2009-2-19 13:17 發表
ha... so funny... let's see what's happening outside the world of LYKs... according to statistics Canada, the average household income for 2006 is "$67,600".. this is the # of 2 or more ppl in a family (household),
for individual the income is $28,500
(those $$ is after tax)

so u think making more than $10k / month is easy??? rethink about it.... a frd or 2 who make this salary doesn't mean anything... u may know more than 100+ ppl...

That's why I called these people LIARS here."""

ar.....i think we need to clarify an important issue, are we talking before tax or after tax salary?

I thought we are talking the before tax salary wow.
when did we switch to after tax salary ar. they are 20% - 45% difference la.

actually the result fr lyk is similar to the statistics Canada. ave income from lyk is approx. $50000 before tax, which is approx. $35000 after tax.
$35000 in 2009 compare $28500 in 2006, acceptable wow.

so before you called someone liar, pls read the statement carefully and think twice.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-19 17:22

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作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-19 17:31

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-19 16:39 發表

Fresh air ... I used to believe in that argument until I see what's going on in Hastings street in Downtown Vancouver.

If you don't have money, you live in a high-crime, dirty, crappy neighborhood. ...

If I don't have $, I can still choose to live further away from city center. e.g. Langley, Abbortsford.
Or I can just rent basement in Richmond for example. That would cost less. There are lots of choices besides Hastings.
If working 7 years still on same position or same pay, it's more like your problem.
Fresh air means clean air, nothing to do with crime rate.
In HK everywhere is full of smog. It doens't make me sick right away but it's sure not good for health.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-19 17:35

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作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-2-19 17:43

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-19 18:35 發表

I am afraid the world doesn't work that way ...

Of course I (I'm sure other LYKs as well) don't know how your "world" works.

If you see no chances of promotion or pay increase, would you consider moving to another company? Or go back to study and "upgrade" yourself? Or study something else where there are better career chances?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-2-19 20:26

In most cases there's nothing to be proud of when you get a higher pay. It just means more working hours.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2009-2-19 21:35

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-19 18:22 發表
So who is biased now?

Disappointed, that's all your reply?

Come on.. And you're quite absent minded, I commented that your posts were biased. So my answer to your question is "Toppy".

Honestly, who is biased when one read a survey result in a forum, don't believe the poll and start calling people liar. And if you really understand what a survey is (after googling), what so surprise you from the poll result??

Especially it is only such a small sampling side of 92 LYK so far.

作者: Serenade 時間: 2009-2-20 04:25

What's the point of arguing when you know he is just trolling to get attention? just forget his replies guys.

FYI, I don't work in Canada, I work in Japan, besides, we are just talking about the average salary of LYK, not Canadian, so maybe you should think again when you start calling people liars. I am a PR and lingual specialist who do translations and magazine editorial work in Tokyo. If you are unable to make that much Toppy, well, too bad, that just means you are not good enough to even argue with us, since we are obviously smarter than you because we are able to make more and get better employers. The numbers reflect a very very obvious distinction between you and us.

Oops, did I hurt your feelings? again?

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作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2009-2-20 06:03

我survey 做錯左, 計錯年薪...
應該係over 100,000

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-2-20 08:40

that's why I totally ignore him. You know he is wrong and so does everyone. He is the only one says he is right and everyone is wrong and start to twist the discussion abit. Sound like Taiwanese president....

and drunk person never admit he is drunk so why should we continue to tell him he is drunk since he thinks all of us are drunk but him anyway.

ACC-HE, this is the answer to your question why everyone hates Toppy even though you think he only has different point of view than others.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-2-20 10:26

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