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作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-10 13:30 標題: Goose liver foiegras

Any restaurant in Richmond serve French goose foie gras?

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2009-3-10 13:42

Shanghai river

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-10 14:03

Really? in Chinese restaurant?
What they do with it? and how much?

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-3-10 14:18

海港都有碟送係那鵝肝嚟炒。

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-10 14:26 標題: 回復 4# 的帖子

How it taste like? any good?

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2009-3-10 14:39

haven't tried b4.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-3-10 14:52

If u want Foie Gras, I really suggest stepping out of Richmond...

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-3-10 14:56

Chinese cuisine has many ways of cooking it, more and better than western techniques.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2009-3-10 15:13

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-3-10 15:52 發表
If u want Foie Gras, I really suggest stepping out of Richmond...

you are right.. even the Chop doesn't have fioe gras.

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-3-10 15:43

and he wants goose ones.... even harder to find

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-3-10 16:29

If it must be in Richmond, and it can be duck Foie Gras, maybe you can consider this place
http://hakkasan.ca/

If it must be goose, my crappy knowledge really dunno where u can find real goose Foie Gras in a restaurant...

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-3-10 16:38

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-3-10 04:29 PM 發表
If it must be in Richmond, and it can be duck Foie Gras, maybe you can consider this place
http://hakkasan.ca/

If it must be goose, my crappy knowledge really dunno where u can find real goose Foie G ...

howz food at hakkasan? I looked at their menu (pretty hard to know EXACTLY what the dishes are in english)... and almost all of their tasting menu except the "dine out $30" one have sharkfin!!!! I don't think I can eat there...

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2009-3-10 16:58

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-3-10 17:29 發表
If it must be in Richmond, and it can be duck Foie Gras, maybe you can consider this place
http://hakkasan.ca/

If it must be goose, my crappy knowledge really dunno where u can find real goose Foie G ...

Stanley Park.. a lot of them.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-3-10 17:08

Do you guys even know how foie gras are farmed? You probably don't want to eat them if you know how cruely the animals are treated.

作者: mibu 時間: 2009-3-10 18:48

http://www.goveg.com/factoryfarming_ducks_foie.asp

作者: bbqfish 時間: 2009-3-10 19:10

don't eat la.. very non-humane.

作者: katamari 時間: 2009-3-10 20:14

don't think you can find goose ones in here. But as bbqfish said, if possible don't eat la, I loved it before but I have stopped eating for a long time.

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2009-3-10 20:26

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-3-10 18:08 發表
Do you guys even know how foie gras are farmed? You probably don't want to eat them if you know how cruely the animals are treated.

呢個世界食咩都最好唔好諗D食物係點嚟啦。

你食快餐唔好諗D牛肉點黎﹐你食雞唔好諗D雞未死係咩樣﹐你食海鮮唔好諗D水有咩菌。出去食飯千祈唔好入廚房。

-- 愛死foie gras大C姐

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-3-10 20:30

It's hard after reading "In Defense of Food", "The Omnivore's Dilemma", "The 100-Mile Diet"...etc
These books are more on the health side (not much about animal rights). But I really try to avoid fast food, pre-package and pre-process food as much as I can. Buying local food if possible.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-3-10 22:38

原帖由 布小熊 於 2009-3-10 16:38 發表

howz food at hakkasan? I looked at their menu (pretty hard to know EXACTLY what the dishes are in english)... and almost all of their tasting menu except the "dine out $30" one have sharkfin!!!! I do ...

Food value in terms of portion/taste/price is not going to be that high, esp considering the fact that Chinese people want CHEAP Chinese food.

I like the environment. Gives a relatively unqiue and more modern experience to Chinese food. I don't like their fushion dishes or their 'western' dishes. But do appreciate the slight twist they sometimes give to re-interpret Chinese dishes, or at least put it in a different environment.

This is not like Wild Rice where it becomes a westerened/fushioned Chinese food. THese are still proper regular Chinese dishes. Smaller portion, not bad in taste, slightly high price but a relatively unique take on Chinese food, at least unique in the lower mainland. Don't expect wonders tho, this is just a twist so you don't have to suffer thru the same 海鮮酒家 experience again and again and again.

Just my stupid opinion... I really just eat and call it a day so....

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作者: siumaibb 時間: 2009-3-10 23:17

原帖由 bbqfish 於 2009-3-10 20:10 發表
don't eat la.. very non-humane.

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2009-3-10 23:33

原帖由 大C姐 於 2009-3-10 21:26 發表

呢個世界食咩都最好唔好諗D食物係點嚟啦。

你食快餐唔好諗D牛肉點黎﹐你食雞唔好諗D雞未死係咩樣﹐你食海鮮唔好諗D水有咩菌。出去食飯千祈唔好入廚房。

-- 愛死foie gras大C姐 ...

問題係殘忍與否，為左你一餐半餐既口福，動物係咪要受不必要既痛苦？
我唔係要同大家拗，但係唔食鵝肝，對大家有咩影響？

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風干雞
　　做這種東西時，需要一定的手法速度必須非常快。這是藏菜，大師以極快的速度拔毛、取臟、填調料入雞腹、縫上、挂於通風處(未放血殺死)。這時雞必須還是活的，然后如風鈴一般在風雪之中“咕咕”直叫，其景慰為壯觀。
　　
活叫驢
　　你吃過新鮮的驢肉嗎？再新鮮的驢肉也不過是剛殺的驢吧？活叫驢則不同，驢根本不用殺，直接從活驢身上剜肉。聽著后堂的驢慘叫，前廳若無其事的正在食用那隻驢身上的某個部分，真正是色香味聲俱全
　　
烤鴨掌
　　活鴨放在微熱的鐵板之上，把涂著調料的鐵板加溫。活鴨因為熱，會在鐵板走來走去，到后來就開始跳。最后鴨掌燒好了，鴨子卻還活著，切下腳裝盤上桌，鴨子做其它用
　　
鐵板甲魚
　　將鮮活的甲魚放在有調料的涼湯中用慢火煨。甲魚是活的，當水漸漸升溫后，甲魚就會因為熱而喝湯，調料自然就進入了甲魚的體內。漸漸火越來越熱，看著鍋中甲魚痛苦的翻滾，舉箸之人無不興奮異常。最后甲魚熟了時，外面的湯和甲魚喝下的湯，使甲魚肉味中都有湯的味道，據說鮮美無比。
　　
澆驢肉
　　這道菜也是和驢過不去，活驢固定好，旁邊有燒沸的老湯。食用者指定要吃某一部分，廚師剝下那一塊的驢皮，露出鮮肉。用木勺舀沸湯澆那塊肉，等澆得肉熟了再割下來，裝盤上桌。
　　
三吱兒
　　剛出生的小老鼠(活的)一盤，調料一盤。食用者用筷子夾住活老鼠，老鼠會“吱兒”的叫一聲，(這是第一吱兒)放到調料裡時，鼠又會“吱兒”一聲，(這是第二吱兒)，當放入食用者口中時，鼠發出最后一“吱兒”。(共三吱兒)菜譜簡單，食用者需要無窮的饕餮動力和無比的勇氣，才可以品嘗這道菜。

猴頭
　　這裡說的猴頭絕不是食用菌猴頭，而是真正的猴腦。一個中間挖洞的方桌，幾個人圍桌而坐，中間的洞並不象火鍋或是麻辣燙那麼大，正好容一隻猴子的頭伸出。一隻非常可愛的猴子牽出，據說那是專門食用的猴兒，頭比較大。猴兒的頭頂從小洞中伸出，用金屬箍住，並且箍的非常緊，用小錘輕輕一敲，頭蓋骨應聲而落。猴的腦部就完全裸露在食客們的面前。這時，有較饞一些的人，已經用湯匙伸向紅白相間的猴腦，隨著桌下垂死猴子一聲慘叫，拉開了生食猴腦慘狀的序曲。

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 06:58 標題: 回復 22# 的帖子

Plain gross, any LYK ever try them?

作者: zuesel 時間: 2009-3-11 07:11

原帖由 布小熊 於 2009-3-10 16:38 發表

howz food at hakkasan? I looked at their menu (pretty hard to know EXACTLY what the dishes are in english)... and almost all of their tasting menu except the "dine out $30" one have sharkfin!!!! I do ...

I've been to hakkasan and tried their foie gras as well, their $30 course. I can't say their foiegras is THAT good compare to other fine dining places ie: Le Crocodile. As for the rest of the food, they are not bad. Pretty much like an upscaled HK tea cafe. Consider the price, you get what you pay for lor.
So if I want real French, great foie gras, I will pay $2X at a better place. But if I can't afford it and yet still want to have a taste of it, I go to hakkasan.

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-3-11 08:56

Peter236's favorite chinese method of cooking
[youtube]aOwrX2XKZLc[/youtube]

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-3-11 09:02

原帖由 zuesel 於 2009-3-11 07:11 AM 發表
I've been to hakkasan and tried their foie gras as well, their $30 course. I can't say their foiegras is THAT good compare to other fine dining places ie: Le Crocodile. As for the rest of the food, ...

I am not interested in trying their foie gras... sorry OT here...
So the only reason I want to try hakkasan would be for hakka style dishes...since you said they are more upscale HK style cafe like... I guess they are not my cup of tea then.
I haven't been to HK style cafe for over a year now.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-3-11 09:42

原帖由 布小熊 於 2009-3-11 09:02 發表

I am not interested in trying their foie gras... sorry OT here...
So the only reason I want to try hakkasan would be for hakka style dishes...since you said they are more upscale HK style cafe like. ...

I wouldn't say they are upscale HK cafe, as long as you stay away from any non-chinese dishes.
their 'western' dishes does give that HK style cafe feeling to me. And it isn't so much hakka cuisine, but more like just chinese cuisine.

And no point comparing Le Croc to this place..... it's more than double the price... 1 is French cuisine, which can be said to be famous for Foie Gras, the other is a Chinese restaurant....

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作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-3-11 10:11

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-3-11 09:42 AM 發表

I wouldn't say they are upscale HK cafe, as long as you stay away from any non-chinese dishes.
their 'western' dishes does give that HK style cafe feeling to me. And it isn't so much hakka cuisine, ...

May be I will try it for lunch.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 10:30 標題: 回復 28# 的帖子

So do they serve duck foie gras or French foie gras de Oie?
Yokohama advertises that they use premium French goose Foie Gras, but the place is
so filthy and got closed down many time by Richmond Health Dept, many people spotted rats in their porch( Same problem as Boston ), my GF refuses to go with me

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-3-11 10:36 標題: 回復 29# 的帖子

I am going to hakkasan for lunch some time in the near future but I won't order foie gras there.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 10:42

Post a review for us, will you?

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2009-3-11 10:44

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-3-10 18:08 發表
Do you guys even know how foie gras are farmed? You probably don't want to eat them if you know how cruely the animals are treated.

so? I know. but so what?
what's the difference from farming cow, pig, sheep, chicken , duck..etc Whether or not how we feed them, how good we treat them, at the end, we kill them, cook them and eat them.
as long as we eat meat, we have to accept the fact.

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-3-11 11:03

I used to love foie gras too. Yet I have a stronger and stronger feeling that eating this from a cruel treating make me feel bad, and hence I stop eating it for more than a year already. (cant' deny that it's very tasty)
Eating it or not, up to personal choice la.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-3-11 11:21 標題: 回復 1# 的帖子

I've  never been in love with Foie Gras,  however it is a popular  menu item.
Last time I ate it  in restaurant was in  Perigeux  back in 80's.
Good imported goose liver are hard to come by in Canada and tricky to work with,
and they are usually  frozen, not fresh, 1.5 Kg a piece, too big for average family.
And, expect to pay $500 a Kilo.  not too expensive compare with white truffle from Piemonte.
Most French restaurants use fresh duck foie gras from Quebec.
There are frozen duck fat in buckets available, $50 for 2 Litre. good for sauteeing  potatoes

作者: B2L2 時間: 2009-3-11 11:26

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-3-11 10:42 發表 And no point comparing Le Croc to this place..... it's more than double the price... 1 is French cuisine, which can be said to be famous for Foie Gras, the other is a Chinese restaurant

FYI, both starters,

Le Crocodile: Grilled Quail and Pan Seared Duck Foie Gras, Calvados Reduction $21.50
Hakkasan: Pan Seared Foie Gras $22

- Brian

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 11:27

原帖由 somewhereintime 於 2009-3-11 12:21 發表
I've  never been in love with Foie Gras,  however it is a popular  menu item.
Last time I ate it  in restaurant was in  Perigeux  back in 80's.
Good imported goose liver are hard to come by in Canada  ...

You don't know what you missed. Where can I buy the goose liver?????

作者: B2L2 時間: 2009-3-11 11:35

We never ate white truffle but he did. I guess somewhereintime is the person saying your line.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-3-11 11:44

原帖由 B2L2 於 2009-3-11 11:26 發表

FYI, both starters,

Le Crocodile: Grilled Quail and Pan Seared Duck Foie Gras, Calvados Reduction $21.50
Hakkasan: Pan Seared Foie Gras $22

- Brian

Never know it's such a deal for Foie Gras at Le Croc. I only remember bone marrows were $10! Seems all the starters at Le Croc is not too bad of a deal then!

But yeah, i was saying more than double the price in terms of a typical meal out of the restaurant. I guess it's correct to say that if your meal involves Foie Gras, don't even bother with Hakkasan. But in general, don't bother with Hakkasan's non-Chinese dishes....

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作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 12:01

原帖由 B2L2 於 2009-3-11 12:26 發表

FYI, both starters,

Le Crocodile: Grilled Quail and Pan Seared Duck Foie Gras, Calvados Reduction $21.50
Hakkasan: Pan Seared Foie Gras $22

- Brian

Why would anyone go to Chinese restaurant for Pan Seared Foie Gras?
Teppanyaki is alright, BBQ Foie Gras in Caul nest over real charcoal would be tasty, but pan seared????
and how fresh is their gooseliver? I could be young and naive, but not sucker

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作者: peter236 時間: 2009-3-11 12:08

Chinese cuisine is higher class than French cuisine, in general, so Chinese restaurants deserve higher prices.

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 12:10

原帖由 B2L2 於 2009-3-11 12:35 發表
We never ate white truffle but he did. I guess somewhereintime is the person saying your line.

Who is that old man??

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 12:12

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-3-11 13:08 發表
Chinese cuisine is higher class than French cuisine, in general, so Chinese restaurants deserve higher prices.

Any genuine High Class Chinese Restaurant in Richmond? Most of them sucks.
You care to name a few?

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-3-11 12:35

原帖由 peter236 於 2009-3-11 13:08 發表
Chinese cuisine is higher class than French cuisine, in general, so Chinese restaurants deserve higher prices.

hahahahahahhahahahahaha

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2009-3-11 12:46

原帖由 Hyde 於 2009-3-11 13:35 發表

hahahahahahhahahahahaha

actually, what he said is true too.
When you really compare the price, high class chinese food can be very expensive. The way Chinese cuisine prepares and cook is more complicated than western food. It can be very complicated and time consuming that not all chefs know how to do it correctly. sigh.. just like chinese medicine la.

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-3-11 12:53

you don't need to explain whats expensive and what is not to me. Comeon only eats at aberdeen, what does he know about fine dining LOL 釣魚台 is probably the most expensive chinese meal he can afford!

but comparing to that whatever hakkakakakaka to le crod is only some on9 ppl like comeon can think of.

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-3-11 13:03

原帖由 MAXIMUS 於 2009-3-11 13:12 發表

Any genuine High Class Chinese Restaurant in Richmond? Most of them sucks.
You care to name a few?

海港都算係嘅。。。

作者: cmmm 時間: 2009-3-11 13:04

原帖由 mibu 於 2009-3-10 19:48 發表
 http://www.goveg.com/factoryfarming_ducks_foie.asp

gosh, so scary...

already lost appetite after reading the article

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-3-11 13:10

原帖由 B仔於 2009-3-11 14:03 發表

海港都算係嘅。。。

not really.... we don't have anything in the same class as 福臨門，庸記 here at all

作者: MAXIMUS 時間: 2009-3-11 14:34

原帖由 Hyde 於 2009-3-11 14:10 發表

not really.... we don't have anything in the same class as 福臨門，庸記 here at all

You are a noble gentleman, Mr. Rich

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-3-11 14:41

原帖由 Hyde 於 2009-3-11 14:10 發表

not really.... we don't have anything in the same class as 福臨門，庸記 here at all

鬼唔知咩。
我地講緊VANCOUVER嘛～

作者: katamari 時間: 2009-3-11 18:06

原帖由 B仔於 2009-3-11 13:03 發表

海港都算係嘅。。。

海港Ｄ野差左好好好多呀講時講。上次飲完之後我估我短期內唔會再去喇

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-3-11 18:09

原帖由 MAXIMUS 於 2009-3-11 13:12 發表

Any genuine High Class Chinese Restaurant in Richmond? Most of them sucks.
You care to name a few?

Chinese and French cuisine are highly regarded around the world as among the best. All the others cuisine are just lower class.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-3-11 18:11

原帖由 Hyde 於 2009-3-11 13:53 發表
you don't need to explain whats expensive and what is not to me. Comeon only eats at aberdeen, what does he know about fine dining LOL 釣魚台 is probably the most expensive chinese meal he can afford ...

You moron, I didn't compare those two places.

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-3-11 19:46

原帖由 katamari 於 2009-3-11 06:06 PM 發表

海港Ｄ野差左好好好多呀講時講。上次飲完之後我估我短期內唔會再去喇

I think Sea Harbour is not so good... Last time I went, the squabs were dry and stir fried gai lan was oily.

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-3-12 07:53

嘩～～
咁我都唔好去海港住喇～
thnx for info!!

作者: zuesel 時間: 2009-3-12 09:19

原帖由 布小熊 於 2009-3-11 09:02 發表

I am not interested in trying their foie gras... sorry OT here...
So the only reason I want to try hakkasan would be for hakka style dishes...since you said they are more upscale HK style cafe like. ...

Yeah, I don't think I will go there again. Out of the 5 course meal, the quality is so so only. The most memorable is dessert (steamed red bean buns). Worst than dimsum restaurant. They make them look cute by shaping them like little hedgehogs but they were very dry...almost like microwaved heated up.
Also, the dishes in the 5 courses are not matching. eq: French/chinese style appies Western salad with Chinese / japanese curry porkchop and rice...

I compare to HK cafe coz the food mix and some dishes's quality is just soso.

作者: vitamin 時間: 2009-4-23 12:47

I think u can go to the place called Yokohama Japanese Restaurant which is in the fishman village in Richmond. Although it's a Japanese grille style foigras but it's still taste pretty good. I am a foigras lover :> Although the interior is really not as great, but they offer foigras and Japanese Kobe Beef there. I personally only like the food there, the interior and waitress really do need improvements. I'm not saying they have bad attitude, just that they can't provide the atmosphere and environment that I want. I am little picky on the cuttery, plates, and glasses also. I had a set dinner there with a friend, which is only $88 from appetizer, main course, desert and drink. Food includes, foigras on toast, kobe beef, salmon, fried rice, big prawns, grill veggies, a sushi roll, and a drink. The first time experience is good, and I will go back again (hope the food is still the same quality). http://www.yokohamabc.com/index.html
Food 4/5
Service 4/5
Interior 2.5/5

作者: vitamin 時間: 2009-4-23 12:53

ya..these are the food that makes me wanna go back.

Goose Foie Gras (4oz)
Goose foie gras grilled up teppan style with very tender and juicy meat.

Kobe Wagyu Beef From Japan A5 (1oz)
The Wagyu has excellent marbling that puts it among the world's top class. The wagyu melts in your mouth for a sensational burst of flavor from the very first bite.

作者: Lil'B 時間: 2009-4-23 22:02

本帖最後由 Lil'B 於 2009-4-23 22:06 編輯

ya..these are the food that makes me wanna go back.

Goose Foie Gras (4oz)
Goose foie gras grilled up teppan style with very tender and juicy meat.

Kobe Wagyu Beef From Japan A5 (1oz)
T ...
vitamin 發表於 2009-4-23 12:53 PM

The Foie Gras Assembly Line
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IWN8UGDyC0

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