標題: Please gives me some suggestion~ [打印本頁] 作者: moon 時間: 2007-12-19 06:28 標題: Please gives me some suggestion~
I am looking around for a camera to buy in boxing day
specs i look for:
* take good picture in the dark,
non blurry picture indoor (VERY IMPORTANT since i only go out at night)
* price below $500
* having 16:9 better
that should be a really nice one, the canon S-series has always been pretty decent. but a bit big if you are thinking of taking pictures while going out drinking or partying at night... at least that's what i think.作者: maanmo 時間: 2007-12-19 12:50
recently i have been checking out the sony w80
its advertized for sale for $200 at visions and one other place
it was $250 $230 a few months ago
it has optical image stabilizer and enhanced iso sensitiviy iso 3200
you could compare this with the Canon camera you mentioned above
this camera is pocket size , ideal for night life indoors
this review has some specific infor on the sony w80's low light performance
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My low light shots in the Gallery include a stick shift and auto interior taken at several ISO settings
..... http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/W80/W80A.HTM
this is not the best low light camera i know, in fact i dont know any,
its just a review for you to compare others camera with
you might think of the w80 as having the typical low light capability of recent
camera models作者: moon 時間: 2007-12-19 18:43
I have already got a Ricoh as a handy dc, so I hope to get a functionality one I won't have hard time shooting in any situation, bulky is okay. but my photog skill is not professional thats why I didn't consider buying a DSLR thinking I am going to wear a big hat.作者: maanmo 時間: 2007-12-19 20:09
i guess then, from your last post,
you are not a social photography, looking for a sleek cam hiding in your pocket
you want a bulky hobbyist camera,
then consider the olympus sp 550,
by boxing day, it should crash through the $300 barrier
or you can consider the two other 18x zoom camera's from panasonic and fujifilm
i think the fujifilm is about $400, the panasonic is more expasive
read up on the reviews of these cameras
you mentioned about lowlight sensitivity
the fujifilm FinePix S8000fd
has " ISO settings of up to ISO6400 (at 4MP resolution) " compared with canon s5 is 's iso1600
but after reading the reviews carefully, i would not say they are much better than the canon s5is
since you mainly shoot indoors the 18 x zoom models may not appeal to you
the only thing not quite satisfactory i feel about the canon s5is is its lens is not as wide angle as
the three 18 x zoom cameras
s5is lens...
6.0-72.0mm f/2.7-3.5 (35mm film equivalent: 36-432mm)作者: lerico 時間: 2007-12-19 20:32
Seriously, DSLR is really what you need. A Canon Rebel XT goes for around $500 now, and NO point and shoot camera can beat a DSLR in low light. A Rebel XT isn't much bigger than the S5 IS, and I always use my DSLRs when I am wearing hat.
Oh... and also... DSLR has a much wider wide angle lens, you will find yourself easier to take group pictures in a party or even picture of yourself and a friend.
My Rebel XT is now my compact, party camera, I found myself using it even more than my 30D for random shots
here is a shot with my XT in a very very dark restaurant (Hells Kitchen on 4th Ave), Hand Held, no flash, ISO1600, with 18-55mm lens
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NO point and shoot camera can beat a DSLR in low light
i doubt the above statement
2007 models of digital cameras such as the W80
has low light sensitivity matching older models of DSLRs such as the canon xt
about the need for wide angle lens, the wide angle lens found in 2007 digital
cameras are adequate, if you want wider angle , you can buy a lens for DSLR
, but the lens alone , cost twice as much as one of those 18x optical zoom digital cameras
in 2007, low light and wide angle photography are doable for a total of $400 or less作者: maanmo 時間: 2007-12-20 16:08
back to Canon s5is
the only bad side i can think of for this s5is, is just the zoom range
but compared to the 18x zoom cameras available now, this canon s5is is fast
look like the s5is is the best to buy for now
for any camera, one must be careful not to spend too much money,
because there are many upgrades coming soon,
here s the coming olympus sp 560
here s the one we might grab only if its price drops further
Agree with leico. No 傻瓜機 can even come close to DSLR when it comes to low light performance.
Even in the DSLR level, the 40D is no match to the 5D for low light performance. I don't know about the 1D level, b/c I don't have $$ to buy those...
Check the Aaron Kwok thread for some pics I took. No flash, no tripod, ISO1600/3200
edit: 傻瓜機 with ISO 1600 doesn't mean the picture quality is as good as DSLR ISO 1600....
a lot of people get DSLR , and then is seen no more
we need a missing DSLR task force to seen what happened to them作者: maanmo 時間: 2007-12-20 17:38
the canon S5 IS is $400 at London drugs right now ,
to high
may be we are expecting a $50 drop after christmas
a conon flyer specifically tells, low light performance is one of the outstanding features of its 2007
cameras
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Improved low light shooting at high ISO settings (up to ISO 1600) is assured through the combination of optical Image Stabilizer and DIGIC III’s advanced Noise Reduction Technology. A new Auto ISO Shift function prevents blur by giving users the option to boost the ISO setting – and consequently shutter speed – with a single button press whenever the camera predicts camera shake.
many pocket cameras are expected to have super low light ability
if you buy a DSLR, you cannot leave it at home. and buy a new compact, with the new improved iso technology
so you have to take DSLR out to shoot night life, even when a pocket camera is more appropriate
people are playing at night, and you show up with a DSLR, look, i am a pro at work,
who is the celebrity ??作者: hoshi 時間: 2007-12-20 17:39
I personally think the S5 IS should be a good choice.
Although some Fuji's might have less noise in low light shots,
Canon S5 IS has optical IS which is useful for shooting indoor.
In additional I always feel Canon's photos tend to retain more
details partly because of the less aggressive NR algorithms
(you can compare what Panasonic does to totally ruin low light shots).
Also for the S5 IS because it is not a card-sized camera
it is always easier to hold it more steady than other lighter cameras.
Just my $0.02 作者: lerico 時間: 2007-12-21 22:44
Check out futureshop boxing day sale. Canon Rebel XT will be on sale at $399 with lens. Worth the line up if you really want a nice camera.作者: maldini 時間: 2007-12-22 00:19
Which other cameras at FS will be on sale on Boxing Day?
steve 's review
Bottom Line - Once again, Sony has a very capable entry into the mega-zoom digicam market with the DSC-H7. Offering an 8 megapixel imaging sensor, a 15x image stabilized optical zoom and a slew of manual and automatic features, the H7 is a very versatile package that delivers excellent image quality. This is a great choice for someone trying to decide between a smaller digicam or a dSLR. With the ability of this camera to use the 15x optical zoom with image stabilization, and optional smart zoom (not available on a dSLR), this camera is thousands of dollars cheaper than the equivalent options on a dSLR and image stabilized lenses http://www.steves-digicams.com/2007_reviews/sony_h7.html
maanmo myself say... i personally prefer the H9 with the tiltable screen
it does not swing around like the canon s5is, but it should be fun to use
although this H7 has no tiltable screen, it has a wider angle lens than the
canon s5 is
in fact many days ago i saw a london drugs sales person talked a custom from
considering a DSLR to prefering a sony H9, this salesman says he likes the
H9 picture quality better,
in any case, the $400 canon xt is not a good buy, no body should buy the xt
any more, people who advise you to buy a xt, should be able to sell you one
second hand for $200,a useful lens included.
this xt is an stop gap product, designed for people going from a film SLR
not for a hobbyist being initailized into DSLR
