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作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-17 17:12     標題: Summer Tires, recommendation?

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-17 18:23 編輯

If I wanna upgrade my OEM tires, what should I upgrade to?

requirement:
作者: Lik    時間: 2009-4-17 17:48

That's 215/50/17, right?

Super affordable:
Falken ZE-912 (3 season tire) -- $120-ish

Affordable:
General Exclaim UHP (UHP all season) -- $165-ish
Kumho Ecsta ASX (UHP all season) -- $170-ish
Kumho Ecsta SPT (UHP summer) -- $170-ish

-Lik
作者: BarF1    時間: 2009-4-17 18:15

912 held their on own on the white stuff too.

You are asking too much for a single tire, good grip is inversely proportional to durability.
Its like Time/Cost/Quailty pick 2 out of the 3.

912 gets my vote.
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-17 21:09

本帖最後由 Derek128 於 2009-4-17 22:21 編輯

我對912o既感覺麻麻地
all season 入面可能算咬law

Kumho SPT 抵玩D

再唔係可以試下Yokohama S.drive

UHP 有人話係all season , 有人話係summer
  唔清楚佢係咩
作者: Lik    時間: 2009-4-17 23:10

Actually, the all seasons should all be changed to just 3-seasons.

-Lik
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-18 00:41

hee... really have not heard of any of them.  So those big brand (michelin / good year / bridgestone) ones le? no good?
作者: Lik    時間: 2009-4-18 00:50

Major brand means you pay a lot more for their advertising budget, not the tire itself. They have good tires, to be sure. But you'll be paying top dollars for them.

-Lik
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-18 00:52

Major brand means you pay a lot more for their advertising budget, not the tire itself. They have good tires, to be sure. But you'll be paying top dollars for them.

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2009-4-18 01:50

oh ya... that's true.

Can I get a set of slick like in F1?
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-18 02:44

Advan AD08, Bridgestone RE01-R
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-18 06:22

Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 is the most quiet:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=104

but most expensive as well...
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-18 06:56

nevermind, PE2 doesn't have my size
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-18 10:16

215/45R17 & 225/45R17 係好接近o既side

w/ 225/45R17
Speedometer Difference: 1.464% too slow
Diameter Difference: 1.45%
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-18 10:48

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-18 11:51 編輯

tirerack.com said my car can support P215/50-17 or P225/45-17, although the manual said P215/50-17 only...

Still don't know what type I need.  

High performance summer?
Ultra High performance summer?  
MAX performance summer?
or High Performance All-Season?

'cause... When I picked no snow + 1. noise, 2. handling, 3. Durability, it picked the High Performance All-season catagory for me... weird.
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-19 02:07

因為 summer 點都大聲過all season 少少

你睇下搵機會坐下d有summer tire o既車
睇睇自己接受到咩level o既tire 聲先啦
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-19 10:30

P215/50-17  --> P225/45-17

How will things be the diff?

Tirerack said both sizes are ok for my car...
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-19 21:44

Speedometer Difference: 1.958% too fast
Diameter Difference: -        Diameter Difference: 1.93%
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-19 22:10

would handling be any different?
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-19 22:57

本帖最後由 Derek128 於 2009-4-20 00:01 編輯

w/ 225 會再定D (特別係高速時)
但因為sidewall 冇咁厚 會"dun"少少
不過我覺得TSX 會ok
因為本身都幾軟下
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-20 00:57

Thanks everyone.  I guess I'll settle with Bridgetstone Potenza RE960AS ultra performance all-season, 'cause I really don't wanna go shop for rim and mount loi mount hui...  I think it will be a big upgrade from the oem tires in terms of traction, but still remain good ride quality and low noise.

Now... where should I buy them ho le?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-20 10:46

Bridgestone Turanza Serenity seems like a better choice for me.  Nice!
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-20 11:16

912 held their on own on the white stuff too.
BarF1 發表於 2009-4-17 19:15

Really?  How much better than 512?  512 was garbage on snow...
作者: BarF1    時間: 2009-4-20 12:41

本帖最後由 BarF1 於 2009-4-20 13:45 編輯

Hum ... I drove my old RWD car w/o LSD on 912 during a snow storm.   I had to get to a friend's house deep in residential area with un plowed 3 inch fresh snow.  I was able to get around okay, just have to understand they are all season and you will be fine. But they do have trouble going up moderate inclines ...

Great deal considering the price, I got my set of four 195/60/14 for $240 ...
作者: KK1    時間: 2009-4-20 15:52

本帖最後由 KK1 於 2009-4-20 16:55 編輯

i use michelin for both summer and snow tires but in different size
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2009-4-23 21:57

Is tirerack survey dependable? Last time I bought tires I was basing most of my decision on tirerack's surveys.

And don't go Michelin unless you have tons of $ to spare. They are always the most expensive... Afterall, French stuff....
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-23 22:39

Is tirerack survey dependable? Last time I bought tires I was basing most of my decision on tirerack's surveys.

And don't go Michelin unless you have tons of $ to spare. They are always the most expe ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2009-4-23 22:57

bridgestones are expensive too...
作者: KK1    時間: 2009-4-24 12:37

which brand name is the best in quality
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-24 13:19

bridgestone
作者: Lik    時間: 2009-4-24 13:42

bridgestone
Hyde 發表於 2009-4-24 13:19

LOL~

There is no such thing as "the best brand" in tires. Manufacturers are constantly doing new R&D and leap-frogging each other. When comparing their top of the line products, generally the manufacturer with the newest product out there wins the throne. But competition never stands still, so 3 or 6 months later another manufacturer comes to take over the crown.

Generally speaking, as long as you stick with a reputable manufacturer, their products are gonna be decent. Having said that, a lot of times you'd be paying too much, so to speak, for tires from certain manufacturers. IMO, Michelin is probably the worst offender out there because of their huge marketing, advertising, and sponsorship budget. Pirelli is also quite expensive for what they are. Continental and Goodyear are also on the expensive side.

Personally, I rather like Falken and Kumho because these guys don't blow as much $$ on marketing/advertising, and their products really speak for themselves. Their smaller marketing/advertising/sponsorship budgets means their tires are cheaper as well.

-Lik
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-24 14:26

u think kumho, toyo, all those smaller brands don't want to support F1?  its becuz they can't
even michelin can't provide good enough tires for F1 and now they switched to bridgestone primary
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-24 15:52

you sure you're not using bridgestone 'cause F1 only uses bridgestone?
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-24 16:19

i use RE050A and RE01R for my cars  
作者: Lik    時間: 2009-4-24 17:16

i use RE050A and RE01R for my cars  
Hyde 發表於 2009-4-24 16:19

Let's see how your RE-01R compares against other tires in the same class...
For the June 2009 issue. Just got my Grassroot motorsports where they did some Extreme tire testing. Tires were tested in 15 inch sizes on a hond civic.

Here is a summary of times from worst to first.

6th - Falken RT 615 Mean time: 35.302 Sec Quick time 35.125 Sec.
5th - Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec Mean time: 35.209 sec. Quick time 35.061
4th -Toyo Proxes R1R Mean time: 34.522 sec Quick Time 34.452 sec
3rd- Bridgestone RE-01R Mean time: 34.478 sec Quick Time 34.430 sec.
2nd- Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 Mean time: 34.266 Quick time 34.238 sec.
1st - Kumho ECSTA XS Mean time :34.170 Quick Time 34.030 sec.

I guess Kumho really does suck~

-Lik
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-24 20:46

Let's see how your RE-01R compares against other tires in the same class...

I guess Kumho really does suck~

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2009-4-24 18:16

curious...

Do u think if they test this on an exotic car, the result could be different?  The Civic might no be able to use the full potential of some tires?
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-25 01:53

32# Lik



i guess you didnt find out how quickly kumho over heats.....
作者: chobit    時間: 2009-4-29 20:23

I am currently using RE01-R which is AWESOME!  However, if money isn't factor, I would recommend Michelin PS2 which has awesome grip, and best in the rain + relatively light, which may make a huge difference for car with relatively low HP/Torque
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/ti ... del=Pilot+Sport+PS2



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