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作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-24 18:01     標題: 改車新手，尋高見

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-24 19:11 編輯

seems like everyone knows already.. but i'm driving TSX '05 AT.

4 yrs warranty will be gone soon, so I'm thinking maybe I can try fiddling around.. keke...

What are your comments on...


things I considers
- price
- better power
- keep about the same noise
- not super bad effect on durability.
作者: Mr.JPG    時間: 2009-4-24 18:17

Lighter wheel
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-24 18:24

你部車全stock
搞腦冇用
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-24 20:00

你部車全stock
搞腦冇用
Derek128 發表於 2009-4-24 19:24

really? but i thought the dyno on that page is from a tsx with everything stock as well.
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-24 20:32

大左torque 加速快左
但你廠用緊o既break 同suspension 應唔應付得到?
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-24 20:34

not 高手 but know some comments...

Didn't have time to go thru all the stuff said in the reflash.  Does it change vtec kick in?

Flashing ECU gains a lot BUT it will definitely cause more wear and tear on your engine/tranny/drivelines.  If that's OK with you, then go ahead; it's the best method for power.  Otherwise, just do intake and exhaust will gain you a few extra hp.

Lighter wheels will help if you go track day but for "street fun", some difference but not huge.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-24 21:11

intake and exhaust... will they make my car noisier?

what will I gain?

If I need to upgrade my brake, what kind of pads are good?
作者: Lik    時間: 2009-4-24 23:10

Best thing to do is to go sign up at a good North America-based 1st gen TSX forum, and see what other people are doing. Read a lot of old posts, find out what works, what doesn't, what is popular, etc., and then ask some intelligent questions.

But honestly, if you really want to mod, start out by getting yourself a good set of tires. At the very least, go for some UHP all season. Better yet, get a set of lightweight rims (while keeping the same rim diameter) and mount some (high / ultra high / max / extreme) performance summer tires on the car. Power is useless when you can't lay it on the ground, and braking will improve from the tire change as well.

-Lik
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-25 01:56

大左torque 加速快左
但你廠用緊o既break 同suspension 應唔應付得到?
Derek128 發表於 2009-4-24 21:32


a pulley and a flash add like what? 5HP on a honda K24???
i'm sure brakes and suspension wont even feel a difference.
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-25 01:58

not 高手 but know some comments...

Didn't have time to go thru all the stuff said in the reflash.  Does it change vtec kick in?

Flashing ECU gains a lot BUT it will definitely cause more wear and te ...
shutterbug 發表於 2009-4-24 21:34


how does an ecu upgrade cause more wear and tear?  your engine is running regardless, its just running more efficient timing, more like it won't pass emission with the more aggressive air fuel timing.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-25 11:18

你地自己改定俾人改？去邊改？

I thought the ECU flash is the easiest, seems like only a phone firmware flash... anyone tried flashing their car?  What's the experience?  How is it done?
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-25 12:21

你地自己改定俾人改？去邊改？

I thought the ECU flash is the easiest, seems like only a phone firmware flash... anyone tried flashing their car?  What's the experience?  How is it done? ...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-25 12:18


you send your ecu to the place that flash it and get it back the next day
作者: stevoo    時間: 2009-4-25 17:33

Tires & wheels first, suspension, brakes and then engine mod. Just my 2 cents
作者: prelude318is    時間: 2009-4-25 18:13

Hondata reflash is one of the most effective power mod for your car.  To maximize the gain, it is the best to get intake, exhaust and header.  Depending what you want to achieve,  I think it is not too cost effective to make an AT car to go fast.  so it is better to get tires and suspension first.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-25 21:27

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-25 22:31 編輯

Thank you all,

what kind of suspension?  Sporty suspension? Wouldn't that make the ride rough?  Why do i need an upgrade?  I thought the original suspension is quite good already. or.. do i need something different to handle the additional power?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-25 21:39

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-25 22:44 編輯
Lighter wheel
Mr.JPG 發表於 2009-4-24 19:17

any recommendation?  how do lighter wheels help?  acceleration?

Where do you get them?  It is hard to tell from a picture... anywhere I can look at them physically?

What's considered 'light' for a 17x7?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-25 22:32

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-25 23:57 編輯


Sport Edition D5 Wheels 17" - CA$179.99, what do you think?

Compare to the original rim...
Offset: 50mm  (same)
Backspacing: 6.02"  (? not sure)
Bolt Pattern: 5-114 (same)
Rec. Tire Size: 215/50-17 (same)
Weight: 18.6lbs. (-4.4 lb)
作者: pkphilip    時間: 2009-4-25 23:11

Cars these days are "computers on wheel", my recommendation is... if you want to mod a car, you better start learning to fix your own car first.

When you mod the car, you can't keep it to the same noise level either way. There will be some difference. My preferences are based on stability over power - caz you can have all the power you want, but if your tires, brake, suspension are not up the speed, there's no point having more power. What you are asking is very typical "newbie" question where more power is better, but that's not neccessary true.

My preference:
Wheel+tire, brake (pads+rotors), intake, exhaust, suspension (spring+shocks).

Keep this in mind, to gain another HP/Torque, you need to consider how much you are investing. You can easily spend thousands to gain additional 20HP, but with that you can probably buy another car that has more speed.

Philip
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-25 23:13

本帖最後由 Hyde 於 2009-4-26 00:25 編輯
http://www.1010tires.com//images/wheels/large/Sport-Edition_d5_lg_enlarge.jpg
Sport Edition D5 Wheels 17" - CA$179.99, what do you think?

Compare to the original rim...
Offset: 50mm  (same)
Backspaci ...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-25 23:32


i rather keep stock rims......

for street use, changing rims is more of a cosmetic thing.  if you want performance, you'd be using a much more aggressive setup and forged rims.  
you might as not change anything if you are gonna downgrade to some crap and using the same factory offset and specs.
作者: Hyde    時間: 2009-4-25 23:21

Thank you all,

what kind of suspension?  Sporty suspension? Wouldn't that make the ride rough?  Why do i need an upgrade?  I thought the original suspension is quite good already. or.. do i need s ...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-25 22:27


less body roll, more mechanical grip.  
if you want comfort, your trade off would be performance, if u want performance you'd have to trade off with comfort.  and really depends whats your tolerance level is at.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-25 23:40

Great, thanks Hyde & philip!
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 00:11

I gave it some thoughts...  I don't drive aggressively all the time like some of you guys.  I'm not planning to go on track.

So after all, I just want better straight line acceleration, low end torque, and better overall dry and wet traction.

So I guess i should focus on tires and wheel first... but I still think the hondata flash is cool
作者: Mr.JPG    時間: 2009-4-26 00:20

我都係自AT , 所以都係百份百樣行先
所以我都係換 suspension + wheel. 已經令我好滿足.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 01:09


from: most comprehensive guide to TSX performance parts...
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-26 01:57

本帖最後由 Derek128 於 2009-4-26 02:59 編輯

點解冇 reflashed but everything else  stock?

仲有係用咩intake 同header...............
出比honda 用o既 靚header一條 可以成千銀ga wor
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 02:11

點解冇 reflashed but everything else  stock?

仲有係用咩intake 同header...............
出比honda 用o既 靚header一條 可以成千銀ga wor
Derek128 發表於 2009-4-26 02:57

These three dyno runs tested the following:
- Comptech Headers
- Comptech Icebox
- Hondata TSX-Reflash
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 04:46

really interested...

Unorthodox Racing Pulleys - Pulley Set



What do you think of them generally?
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-26 13:01

你真係想要tq 一係 build 計,一係落S/C, 再唔係就換車啦
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 13:09

煩死咗Derek128
作者: 字典仔    時間: 2009-4-26 13:37

honestly mod car is something fun but if you only have $3000, u should consider where you should spend that $3000, instead of $1000 on wheels $1000 on exhaust $1000 on suspension, then afterall you dun even have tires / sway bar etc etc...

everyone has a need and everyone is diff than the other?! I think you should name a budget and name a goal, it will be achieved!
作者: 字典仔    時間: 2009-4-26 13:40

really interested...

Unorthodox Racing Pulleys - Pulley Set



What do you think of them generally?
ACC-HE 發表於 2009/4/26 04:46


as far as i concern honda factory's crank pulley is a harmonic balancer, i wouldn't use any cheap light weight pulley...period...
作者: 字典仔    時間: 2009-4-26 13:43

how does an ecu upgrade cause more wear and tear?  your engine is running regardless, its just running more efficient timing, more like it won't pass emission with the more aggressive air fuel timin ...
Hyde 發表於 2009/4/25 01:58


i dun agree, factory tune the ecu that way for a reason, reflash can make it smoother / responsive but engine does wear more in long run, you are maxing everything out ~ and that's IF it's a proper tune!
作者: MSN04    時間: 2009-4-26 13:54

based on exp.  hondata is best bang for the buck.  but check availability 4 05 model.
as i remember, only available to a portion of 05.

for light weight weight, u get look and performance, but easily translate to 4000 to 5000 dollars, unless getting 2nd hand.

For tsx, if i have to do it again, i would only mod the look lor.  pm me if u want more info la.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 13:59

thx 字典仔.

I'm looking for better accelerations and traction.

So do you think getting CAI + header + flash a good idea? how much will they cost?

Some said only modding the cat/exhaust make loud noises, is that true?

Thanks!
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 16:57

as far as i concern honda factory's crank pulley is a harmonic balancer, i wouldn't use any cheap light weight pulley...period...
字典仔 發表於 2009-4-26 14:40


I asked the original UR Pulley modder @ acurazine and he answers:
Some stock crank pulley might be a harmonic balancer such as those found on certain domestic engines, but it's not true from the TSX. The pulley itself is balanced as a rotating unit however.


So if it is not a harmonic balancer, any 'cons' of such mod?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 17:28

Results for Auto Transmission TSX
    * Green line - Completely stock low milage (300 miles) Auto TSX
    * Pink line - Completely stock low milage (300 miles) Auto TSX with Hondata Reflash



Still looks very interesting... for such a simple mod (with everything else stock)!
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 17:32

based on exp.  hondata is best bang for the buck.  but check availability 4 05 model.

did you flash yours? you drive TSX too? How much did it cost you?
作者: pkphilip    時間: 2009-4-26 22:08

本帖最後由 pkphilip 於 2009-4-26 23:09 編輯

If you drive around city, I would put more money down on shocks, springs, sway/tower bar and brakes. You will immediately see the effect when you can corner faster and harder. You will feel that the car is more lively. Then you can move on to intake and exhaust to give you slightly louder noise with about 10hp increase.

Things like crank pulley and ECU flashing is optional, and I don't think you would want to go that far.

Just the above can cost you about $3k or less, and will make your ride more interesting to drive.

Philip
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 22:33

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-26 23:35 編輯

any recommendation on shocks, springs, sway/tower bar and brakes?

Thank you all.
作者: prelude318is    時間: 2009-4-26 22:40

I'm looking for better accelerations and traction.

So do you think getting CAI + header + flash a good idea? how much will they cost?



2 questions I would love to know.

1. what is your budget?
2. Do you care the look at all?  Or you just want better accel and traction only?

Because to have better accel and traction, it is not necessary to make it look better.  Your car can look completely stock but overall performance is enhanced. If you dont really care about the look, your goal can be achieved much cheaper.

For the power, Hondata reflash + intake, exhaust , header.   K-series stock I/H/E is pretty restrictive.  So it makes noticible difference if you replaced all those.  One more thing to mention.  Hondata reflash is running more aggressive ignition timing to get the power, so it is recommended to use highest octane gas available all the time.

For the traction,  you dont really need suspension and rims to get it. Unless you want a set of bling bling wheels with less body roll and more bouncy ride. Stock TSX double wishbone suspension is very good.  All you need is a set of good rubbers on your stock rims.  I would recommend Bridgestone Re11 or RE01r,  falken azenis rt615, Kumho XS, Toyo R1R, Dunlop Z1 star spec.  They are the gripest street tires on the market.  You shouldn't be able to drive those tires to limit on the street given the high level of dry traction. They also performs very well on wet too if it is not bald.  Bad thing is you may need to get a set of winter tires because they don't run very good on snow.

hope this help
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 23:09

thx prelude318is.

Budget: $2000-$3000?  not sure.. depends, but somehow I really like Hondata flash and the pulley set mod.

I don't quite care about the look.  I'm looking for slightly better straight line acceleration.  Suspension and brake is not as important for now, since I don't like extra rough ride.
作者: prelude318is    時間: 2009-4-26 23:19

forget about the crank pulley,  it is not good for the car.   stock crank pulley is a harmonic damper.  you will shorten the motor life by a lot if you run them.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-26 23:26

forget about the crank pulley,  it is not good for the car.   stock crank pulley is a harmonic damper.  you will shorten the motor life by a lot if you run them.
prelude318is 發表於 2009-4-27 00:19

you and 字典仔 are the experts... if both of u think that's a bad idea, then I should forget about it. Thanks.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-27 10:05

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-27 11:08 編輯
you and 字典仔 are the experts... if both of u think that's a bad idea, then I should forget about it. Thanks.
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-27 00:26

but...
quoted from: http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/ ... 39&postcount=20
The stock crank pulley/damper is what is called an audible harmonic damper, in laymen’s terms that means control of harmonics you would hear in the occupant compartment. Similar example is the factory use of baffles and resonators in the intake manifold. These methods are used because of the factories fanaticism about quiet in the occupant compartment. They have nothing to do with engine longevity... association of the stock crank pulley being the primary damper is incorrect, it is the dual mass flywheel that accomplishes this task. But even replacing this dual mass damper with an aluminum flywheel would not cause long-term damage as long as the flywheel were properly balanced.

now I'm having 2nd thought...
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-27 14:26

but...
quoted from: http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/ ... 39&postcount=20

now I'm having 2nd thought...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-27 11:05

Just to be fair...字典仔 didn't say this...it was prelude318is

字典仔 knows what he's talking about ga
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-27 14:34

oh I know, shutterbug....

I'm not questioning 字典仔 or prelude318is's knowledge and expertise at all, I'm just having conflicting comments/suggestions on such mod...
作者: rainbow-davie    時間: 2009-4-27 14:38

Best thing to do is to go sign up at a good North America-based 1st gen TSX forum, and see what other people are doing. Read a lot of old posts, find out what works, what doesn't, what is popular, etc ...
Lik 發表於 2009-4-25 00:10


agree..
but. you have to watch your budget.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-27 14:47

agree..
but. you have to watch your budget.
rainbow-davie 發表於 2009-4-27 15:38

What's exactly what I did, and turned out the pulley set and hondata flash are the two most useful and popular mods.
作者: prelude318is    時間: 2009-4-27 17:43

本帖最後由 prelude318is 於 2009-4-27 18:48 編輯
but...
quoted from: http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/ ... 39&postcount=20

now I'm having 2nd thought...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-27 11:05



The link you post is the president of UR trying to argue some of the points that Steve Dinan made in his website.

Here is the link in case you have never read it before.
http://www.dinancars.com/bmw/technial-info/the-dangers-of-power-pulleys-and-understanding-the-harmonic-damper

The post of UR prez is long and it sounds like he is one of the young guy on RS.  I read half of it and I just couldn't read any longer because the points he made couldn't really convince me.

1. baffle plate and resonator is usually in the air intake but not intake manifold.
2. "we have over 250+ million owner driven miles out there with our product."  250+ million owner?   The number sounds a little too high to make me think he is making up the numbers.
3. I dont think it is crank pulley's job to reduce engine noise.

I just refuse to read any more after he said he got more than 250+ million owners.  I highly doubt the accuracy of this post.

Here is the reason why I dont' recommend crank pulley to you.

most of the engine mod is like risking your longevity of your motor for more power.   How I look at it is the risk and power gain ratio.

example: turbo the car will make 100hp gain which associate with higher chance of blown head gasket, broken con-rod, etc

but replacing crank pulley will make you 5hp gain in typical, now you are risking your crankshaft and main bearing for such a minimal gain.  It is up to you to think if the gain is worth the risk you are taking.

I put on UR lighten crank pulley on my EF race civic because I need the last drop of performance that the rulebook allowed me to do and i dont drive the car much on the street.  However, I will never put it on my daily driver cos i want my car to last a long time.

hope this help
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-27 17:46

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-27 18:51 編輯

thx prelude318is.

then.. what's your take on Hondata flash?  how is its risk-to-performance ratio?
作者: prelude318is    時間: 2009-4-27 17:55

hondata reflash is fairly safe.  Like I said before , the gain is done by aggressive fuel/ignition timing so it is recommended to have higest octane gas you can get all the time.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-27 18:05

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-27 19:08 編輯

51# prelude318is
thx for the blessing...

so I need like.. higher than 91?  I use 91 right now with stock, as it is the recommended octane level already.
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-27 22:46

本帖最後由 shutterbug 於 2009-4-27 23:53 編輯

I didn't read all the details cuz I don't have that much time...but one quick look revealed that the statement was about "250+ million owner driven MILES" and NOT 250+ million owners.

Anyway, who can confirm if TSX uses a harmonic balancer or just a regular type crack pulley?  The argument is that TSX's engine is internally balanced by counter shafts, and the rubber stuff on the crank pulley just serves the purpose for killing audible noises and that's it.

Also, looks like the alternator is not putting out enough charge after the pulley mod.  A/C unit will probably lose some juice too?
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2009-4-27 23:26

http://www.fluidampr.com/
http://www.atiracing.com/products/dampers/damper_dinan.htm

我自己都唔贊成用輕crank pulley，想轉數上得快，棍波車既朋友應該用輕flywheel，自動波車既朋友就咩都唔好做。除左d 真係玩幾場就打散黎rebuild 既賽車之外，街車唔應該用呢d 野，你唔會想到時磨損晒d 野要拎錢出黎rebuild，到時就真係得不償失。

部車應該換左d 會wear & tear，呔，brake 皮同碟趁機upgrade，air filter+fuel filter，pcv valve，火咀之類，做好晒tune up車頭本身都爽d。
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-27 23:40

部車應該換左d 會wear & tear，呔，brake 皮同碟趁機upgrade，air filter+fuel filter，pcv valve，火咀之類，做好晒tune up車頭本身都爽d。
spoonek4 發表於 2009-4-28 00:26

Thanks... Air filter & fuel filter just got replaced by dealer at my last service at 48k.

Looking into replacing Tires & Brake (pad only or pad & rotor?)

pcv valve?  火咀?  Hmm... are they important?  What difference do they make?

Really don't know much, 請各位大哥多多指教...
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-28 11:17

http://www.aj-racing.com/ vs http://www.garagefive.net/

what's your take?
作者: LOK    時間: 2009-4-28 11:39

http://www.aj-racing.com/ vs http://www.garagefive.net/

what's your take?
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-28 12:17

How about www.canadiantire.ca ?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-28 13:22

http://www.canadiantire.ca/ ? do they do hondata flash?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-28 16:32

where can I buy this and have it installed locally?  Or should I buy online and install locally?

Icebox Cold Air Intake (04-08 TSX)
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-29 15:32

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-29 16:34 編輯

Perfect! ordered my first part today!



http://www.ct-engineering.com/store/140145tsx.html

Thanks everyone for your input!
作者: chobit    時間: 2009-4-29 20:14

IMHO.  I would suggest you consider getting a car with stick shift, it would be alot more fun than AT.  I simply wouldn't invest too much on a AT car except for exhaust, intake, but not suspension, and other important performance parts.

1> Don't worry about the brake for now, brake pads don't always improve braking power, as braking system these days are calibrated very well.  It's usually the brake fading problems which requires upgrading your brakes, or maybe the rotors.
2> My #1 suggestion is get yourself some of the best summer tires.  Lighter wheels would also help you accelerate and brake faster

Have fun!!
作者: chobit    時間: 2009-4-29 20:31

I am lucky enough that the OEM STi suspension is very stiff, and my upgrade with KW V3 Coilover actually improve ride quality and performance at the same time.  Therefore, it's not true that you can't gain both comfort and performance.  It's matter of rather you are willing to invest into some high quality shocks/spring setup or not.

Also remember not to just go low.

less body roll, more mechanical grip.  
if you want comfort, your trade off would be performance, if u want performance you'd have to trade off with comfort.  and really depends whats your tolerance ...
Hyde 發表於 2009-4-25 23:21
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-29 23:38

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-30 00:44 編輯

Intake: possibly the icebox I posted last page
header: no good aftermarket header for TSX AT except from JDM... they all rattle at idle or require extra weilding / flex pipes... etc....
exhaust: don't want to sound too loud
tires: will put on some good high/ultra performance all-season, no summer tires 'cause I don't wanna invest extra rim and yet another set of winter tires...
light rims: they are so expensive.. Also, sexy rims don't look good w/o lowered.
Hondata flash: seems useless... it is hard to drive at high rpm to gain the additional power.....

I should limit myself to upgrade only 1 part per year max... haha... that's why I go with sway bar first, cheap and good for my car's handling.  Can't get addicted...

Thanks everyone, expecially Ah Lik + Derek!   Bugged them too much these days...
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-30 02:28

你有d咩parts想搵
去e 個website冇死錯人ga 喇
http://www.spoon.jp/









作者: LOK    時間: 2009-4-30 08:50

Intake: possibly the icebox I posted last page
header: no good aftermarket header for TSX AT except from JDM... they all rattle at idle or require extra weilding / flex pipes... etc....
exhaust: don't ...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-30 00:38

So you mean you are not going to 改車?  How about add some stickers? I heard that stickers add 10hp each.
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-30 08:52

你有d咩parts想搵
去e 個website冇死錯人ga 喇
http://www.spoon.jp/






http://spoon-mechanic ...
Derek128 發表於 2009-4-30 03:28

HOnestly, these modded TSXs are quite ugly...pretty bad taste...
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-30 08:57

These are nicer...

作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 08:57

So you mean you are not going to 改車?  How about add some stickers? I heard that stickers add 10hp each.
LOK 發表於 2009-4-30 09:50

lol... I already have 1x loyaukee.com sticker... but it is only on one side, so my car is not very balance...
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2009-4-30 09:05

67# shutterbug
but you cannot tell a lot of mod from outside. The car can look totally stock (except wheel/tires...) and all mod inside.
作者: Mr.JPG    時間: 2009-4-30 09:38

you can always buy Rota DTP wheel and put a volk sticker on them
lower then on spring. It should fit your modification budget.
作者: MSN04    時間: 2009-4-30 10:09

Intake: mugen CF box is pretty good in terms of fitment and quality (minimal gain tho)
header: i agree with u on this one.  JDM is the way to go.  top-notch quality
exhaust: mugen exhaust sounds just right.  not loud, very sporty
tires: all season really sucks on snow tho... may be buy cheap all seaon or cheap summer tire for summer setup, and buy winter tires to put on ur original tsx wheels?
light rims: they are so expensive.. Also, sexy rims don't look good w/o lowered.
Hondata flash: the flash make vtec comes at 3000 or 3500 rpm (i don't remember exactlyi) instead of 6000ish
作者: xelloss    時間: 2009-4-30 10:37

ha ha ha....you are killing ACC-HE


你有d咩parts想搵
去e 個website冇死錯人ga 喇
http://www.spoon.jp/






http://spoon-mechanic ...
Derek128 發表於 2009-4-30 03:28
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-30 11:20

67# shutterbug
but you cannot tell a lot of mod from outside. The car can look totally stock (except wheel/tires...) and all mod inside.
布小熊 發表於 2009-4-30 10:05

Yes I understand that.  I was just talking about the looks of those modded cars...so UGLY!  Even look worse than stock....they ruined the TSX!
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-30 11:36

本帖最後由 Derek128 於 2009-4-30 12:38 編輯
Yes I understand that.  I was just talking about the looks of those modded cars...so UGLY!  Even look worse than stock....they ruined the TSX!
shutterbug 發表於 2009-4-30 12:20

我冇叫佢改樣喎

佢自己個list亦冇話要搞樣

不過要搞樣o既話
搵無限啦
Mugen d kit 有風洞測試過ga








講樣o既話我覺得Spoon 同你post 出黎o既A spec?
2個樣都係唔靚 原廠Euro R靚d

spoon 都仲話落track咁樣散熱好D
a spec .............跟本就係出比d美國佬


anyways

Mugen 同Spoon d parts都係好野黎ga
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-30 11:40

ha ha ha....you are killing ACC-HE



xelloss 發表於 2009-4-30 11:37


邊有呢
作者: MSN04    時間: 2009-4-30 11:40

spoon 近年d野差左.  無限信得過.
不過無限 warranty 好難 claim.
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-30 11:43

post 埋無限個website先

http://www.mugen-power.com/past/accord/parts/index.html
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-4-30 12:39

我冇叫佢改樣喎

佢自己個list亦冇話要搞樣

不過要搞樣o既話
搵無限啦
Mugen d kit 有風洞測試過ga
Derek128 發表於 2009-4-30 12:36

I know ACC is not going to mod the looks.  I was just commenting about those ugly mods pictures.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 15:02

haha.. thanks everyone.

Nah, not going to touch Header/intake/exhaust anymore... doesn't worth it, after some research.

Those sites... in yen wor... how to buy?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 15:06

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-4-30 16:08 編輯

Dyno for the CT-engineering (Comptech) intake on TSX...
http://rapidshare.de/files/46973769/tsx_icebox.pdf.html

wow, that's pretty useless... worse than stock!?
作者: LOK    時間: 2009-4-30 15:10

everything seems useless for you... If I were you, I will just get a new car.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 15:22

everything seems useless for you... If I were you, I will just get a new car.
LOK 發表於 2009-4-30 16:10

Maybe 'cause TSX is already pretty nicely tuned, not much gain with cheap cheap after market parts... unless super-charged....
作者: chobit    時間: 2009-4-30 15:28

Seriously, if you are not going to get a diff car.  Just get yourself some good summer tires.  It will make a huge difference at every single corner you make fast or slow!  (Put in some swaybars as well)

For something fun to drive, but inexpensive + Potential (Get a 1st / 2nd generation Miata)
作者: LOK    時間: 2009-4-30 15:29

If you are planning to mod with "cheap cheap after market parts"... I think you better keep it stock.
From what I see, you don't know much about cars,  even you get your car super-charged, it's still useless.
作者: Mr.JPG    時間: 2009-4-30 15:32

Gotta pay to play. modification is not cheap hobby.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 15:37

Gotta pay to play. modification is not cheap hobby.
Mr.JPG 發表於 2009-4-30 16:32

Ya... I guess after the research... it is just not for me.

I'll be happy with at least one thing mod'ed.  That's why I got my sway bar.
作者: Mr.JPG    時間: 2009-4-30 15:38

for front and back?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 15:41

for front and back?
Mr.JPG 發表於 2009-4-30 16:38

back.
http://www.ct-engineering.com/store/140145tsx.html

ppl said front is pretty much useless for TSX...
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 15:45

If you are planning to mod with "cheap cheap after market parts"... I think you better keep it stock.
From what I see, you don't know much about cars,  even you get your car super-charged, it's still  ...
LOK 發表於 2009-4-30 16:29

Yes, it is a known fact that I don't know much about cars... that's why I'm here to ask for advices from you experts here.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 16:04

Exhaust Sound CLIPS for TSX...

http://tsxclub.com/forums/1st-ge ... ound-clips-tsx.html

none of them sound good to me... you?
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-30 19:10

haha.. thanks everyone.

Nah, not going to touch Header/intake/exhaust anymore... doesn't worth it, after some research.

Those sites... in yen wor... how to buy?
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-30 16:02


你真係要ge  
local 有shop 有
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-4-30 19:23

本帖最後由 Derek128 於 2009-4-30 20:30 編輯
Exhaust Sound CLIPS for TSX...

http://tsxclub.com/forums/1st-ge ... ound-clips-tsx.html

none of them sound good to me... you?
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-30 17:04

你可以睇下e個


Vtec Club 錄o既  好過你聽d用家唔知用部咩機錄o既聲
DC5  exhaust

你架TSX之應該會細聲返少少
[youtube]oVDlS5BW4x0[/youtube]
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 22:25

I'm fine with the first 2... they're pretty quiet... but then...

exhausts, intake, header... seems like Kut 1 But Hor... so once change = change all three? $$$...
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-4-30 23:04

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-5-1 00:11 編輯

Price list from a garage...

Hondata Flash.. $850 + tax
UR underdrive pulley set.. $475 + tax + ~$75 install
CT-Engineering Icebox intake.. $230 + tax + ~$100 install

$$$ $$$ $$$
作者: BarF1    時間: 2009-4-30 23:51

Underdrive pulley would cost more to install than the Intake box ...
作者: xelloss    時間: 2009-5-1 08:40

Header, intake and exhaust (cat back) do not need to be changed at once, your car still runs by just changing the muffler. however, have those 3 all changed, will have the best performance, according to the Dyno.  If you are just driving street, no need to replace all of them. A better air filter like K&N stock replacement, or if you want a little racing sounded, get a nice piece of muffler or the cat back (Tanabe Medalion Touring or Apexi World Sport II I suggest, nice and quite), that will do for Daily Driving already

I'm fine with the first 2... they're pretty quiet... but then...

exhausts, intake, header... seems like Kut 1 But Hor... so once change = change all three? $$$...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-30 23:25
作者: Mr.JPG    時間: 2009-5-1 08:49

I thought he already said it clear, he no long interested in modding his car because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.  
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-5-1 10:02

Mr. JPG, I think it has to do with... what gain those parts give me...

They seem to cost a lot but don't gain much, and does more harm than good.. (e.g. rattling header... loud...)

So factor in all the factors, if the cost is so high, rather get a new car la.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-5-1 10:04

96# xelloss

K&N stock replacement?  Do they really help at all?  or just superficial?  
作者: Derek128    時間: 2009-5-1 11:31

I'm fine with the first 2... they're pretty quiet... but then...

exhausts, intake, header... seems like Kut 1 But Hor... so once change = change all three? $$$...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-4-30 23:25

第一個係DC原廠

第二個係無限twins loop 好野黎ga



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