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作者: peter236 時間: 2009-6-7 01:04 標題: China highspeed railway

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-6-7 02:07 編輯

Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan HSR (Hebei and Shanxi Provinces)

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-6-7 08:48

You point being?

I don't know much about this high speed rail. But I certainly hope it isn't anything like the Shanghai magnetic high speed train...

-Lik

作者: yuusaku 時間: 2009-6-7 14:12

thx for sharing, but 時事區 might not be the most suitable section ...

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-6-7 14:19

JUST WANT to see who will take this train?

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-6-7 20:54

thx for sharing, but 時事區 might not be the most suitable section ...
yuusaku 發表於 2009-6-7 15:12

I was thinking about putting this in the "photo thread", but over there people put the photos that they took themselves, and I didn't take these photos.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-6-7 21:39

Highspeed trains at South Beijing Station

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-6-7 21:45

will it explode?

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-6-7 21:58

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-6-7 23:00 編輯

Trains on the Beijing-Tianjin line

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-6-7 22:26

is it fast?

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2009-6-7 23:54

嘩~~~~~
我見到河蟹號呀~~~~

作者: news 時間: 2009-6-8 07:13

for some reason..i keep thinking either the train will explode or the trace will get fuked at some point

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-6-10 00:18

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-6-10 01:21 編輯

Beijing-Tianjin railway

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-8-16 21:44

Qingdao railway station

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-8-16 21:47

Construction of Qingzhou rail, Shandong Province

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-8-16 21:51

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-8-16 21:55

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-8-16 23:02 編輯

New Guangzhou station under construction

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-10 21:51

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-9-10 22:03

你冇野呀嗎
末起好就post
到起好咪X長?

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-20 04:00

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-20 05:01 編輯

Highspeed railway near Beijing

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-9-20 10:10

wao
guys, what do you think?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-9-20 15:59

wao
guys, what do you think?
tiffiant 發表於 2009-9-20 11:10

Ha ha ..

It is good to see the PICTURE ONLY gei ..

Since I dont think I will try that in my life anyway .... LOL

作者: yoursecret 時間: 2009-9-20 16:11

I think it makes sense to invest in high speed rail as oppose to ariports and highways, more efficient, economical and good for the environment. This is one of the things Beijing done right and we should support it.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-9-20 17:55

coz it will break down anytime
..........catpiano

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-9-21 04:34

成曰死火嘅和諧号！

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-21 23:51

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 00:58 編輯

I think it makes sense to invest in high speed rail as oppose to ariports and highways, more efficient, economical and good for the environment. This is one of the things Beijing done right and we sho ...
yoursecret 發表於 2009-9-20 17:11

They are building the largest highspeed railway system in the world. It is going to help them reduce the use of cars, unlike those gasoline wasting people in North America.

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-9-22 00:01

毛主席嘅理想----超英趕美---很快就会实現！

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2009-9-22 00:26

唉，咩都要爭第一
但日日都仲係咁多窮人無書讀無飯食

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-22 00:49

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 01:54 編輯

唉，咩都要爭第一
但日日都仲係咁多窮人無書讀無飯食
嘉嘉發表於 2009-9-22 01:26

The construction of the railway helps to solve exactly those problems. The building of the railway system creates a lot of jobs for the people. China has the largest population in the world, of course they need a large railway network to move 1.3 billion people around. The efficient railway network will reduce transportation bottlenecks and promote economic growth and so that all people will benefit.

作者: ricrick 時間: 2009-9-22 04:03

本帖最後由 ricrick 於 2009-9-22 05:07 編輯

peter仔，你有份起架？甘hard sell o既？
係吾係全靠中三之後，入建造業訓練學院學野？出路好收入高，仲好威tim
[youtube]BVk_c6PudRs[/youtube]

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2009-9-22 09:04

it is not something bad, hope people in china will benefit from it....

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-9-22 09:51

They are building the largest highspeed railway system in the world. It is going to help them reduce the use of cars, unlike those gasoline wasting people in North America.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-21 23:51

Funny how you are saying this because China has already become the largest automotive market in the world, and recently, in the wake of the global recession, the Central Government was strongly encouraging its citizens to adopt the "gasoline-wasting and environmentally unfriendly ways of North America" by buying more cars.

It is pointless to compare methods of travel between North America and China. With its sparse population density and vast expanses of land, it is illogical for many places in NA to invest in mass transit infrastructure in the same way China does. In China where the population density is high, however, trains as a form of mass transit make a lot of sense.

The problem is, I can't help but wonder whether a lot of these are simply 面子工程 or not. The Maglev train in Shanghai is a prime example of 面子工程 because the track spans a mere 30km and has been a complete commercial failure. People rarely use it, so the train is operating nowhere close to its carrying capacity. And while it can reach over 500km/h, the track is so short that the moment it approaches its maximum speeds, it really had to start decelerating again.

China has indeed been expanding its mass transit systems (train) for the past few years, and in the wake of the global recession, the government has accelerated a lot of the projects to both re-employ hundreds of thousands of laid off workers and stabilize the economy. By and large, those are some very good deeds, but the 面子工程 aspect of the construction cannot be ignored. Unfortunately, the only thing ignorant idiots know and go around boasting about are those very same 面子工程...

-Lik

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-9-22 11:42

I guess it's good to upgrade the train system in China. A lot of people take the train in China, lot more than you'd imagine. At many times trains are so full (during holidays) that you'd need to wait a long time to get on one.

Besides, a train system is a much more efficient system to move mass people and mass goods across a vast land. It's better to upgrade the train system to attract the population to continue their habit of using train, rather than to encourage an increase in the per capital car ownership rate (even tho that'd definately continue to increase anyways).

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-22 11:59

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 13:28 編輯

I don't think the highspeed railway system is a 面子工程, like the maglev. They studied the highspeed train systems in Japan and Europe. It is clear that highspeed trains promote economic growth and efficiency. When I took the maglev train in Shanghai, there were quite a lot of people. So the travellers were using it. The problem is the high cost of construction per km compared with conventional highspeed train which can already travel at 350km/h.

A side note is that even Japan is planning the Chuo Shinkansen (中央新幹線) maglev line which connects Tokyo, Nagoya, and Osaka. So is this Japanese maglev a 面子工程?
President Obama proposed a highpseed train linking the North Eastern corridor of the US and from Seattle to LA on the west coast. So some people actually see a need for highspeed trains in North America.

For those who have never visited China, you should go there with an open mind, rather than with a preconceived impression.
When I took the highspeed train from Shanghai south station, it was full of people. It felt like tens of thousands of people in the station around me. So the system is well-used. The government wants to solve the bottleneck problem that reduces the mobility of hundreds of millions of people.
While hundreds of millions of people will use trains, still hundreds of millions will drive their own cars as they become more prosperous. Chinese cities are crowded so that requires the construction more subways and inter-city highspeed railway. At the same time, China also has a vast landscape, unlike Japan, so some people will still drive their own cars. But it is still better to have highpseed railway to divert the people to railway rather than having a billion cars on the road.

A side note is that, while the Chinese government gives subsidy to car buyers during this economic crisis, they do have measures to encourage the production of more hybrid and electric cars.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-9-22 12:04

I have this question for a long time ..

is Peter boy living in GREAT CHINA now? or living in sucky north america???

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-9-22 12:47

First of all, I think it is quite obvious that whoever wrote this last reply is not the same usual 50 cent Peter we're used to seeing. This writer behind the keyboard is far too civil and sophisticated compared to the normal idiot that monitors this site.

If I have to fathom a guess, there is at least one usual idiot 50 cent party member logging in at Peter to LYK. For the most part, he does a good job of humiliating himself and exposing the irony and illogical thinking so common in the Motherland. When the limits of his capabilities run out, however, he can resort to his superior(s) and ask them to log in using the same account to actually write something that is intelligent.

A side note is that, while the Chinese government gives subsidy to car buyers during this economic crisis, they do have measures to encourage the production of more hybrid and electric cars.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-22 11:59

For China, R&D-ing hybrid and EV's are really out of necessity because the Central Government is vividly aware that no amount of oil and foreign country bribing (oh, I think that's called international diplomacy...) is enough to satisfy 1.3 billion people's consumption. Again, this is a smart move and some extremely good foresights on the Central Government's part. With all its rivers throughout the land, China has great potential for hydroelectric power production, making hybrids and EVs a totally reasonable solution. Additionally, China has a good amount of lithium reserves that could be mined as well, and that'll also give it a massive advantage as it doesn't have to beg too many other countries to provide the electric power storage solutions.

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-22 12:49

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 14:02 編輯

First of all, I think it is quite obvious that whoever wrote this last reply is not the same usual 50 cent Peter we're used to seeing. This writer behind the keyboard is far too civil and sophisticate ...
Lik 發表於 2009-9-22 13:47

hahaha, Lik, What are you thinking about? I don't need to call you a moron in every post. You are so funny, as a British secret agent.
Why do you embarrass yourself every time? Whenever I give you facts to prove you wrong, you just ignore them.

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-9-22 20:08

yes, peter always starts with his posts, "you moron..."...

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-9-22 20:21

yes, peter always starts with his posts, "you moron..."...
myversa 發表於 2009-9-22 21:08

Childhood "shadow" again??

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 01:18

Highspeed rail in Tianjing

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2009-9-24 08:59

本帖最後由嘉嘉於 2009-9-24 10:02 編輯

yes, peter always starts with his posts, "you moron..."...
myversa 發表於 2009-9-22 21:08

已經留意到好耐
係就話人moron，唔係就話人spy
一o的manner都無
好明顯佢一定係大陸失敗教育o既受害者啦, poor guy

所以都話，大陸有咁多錢整依樣整o個樣，都唔用o的錢o黎教育下o的人民，真係失禮街坊

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 11:36

已經留意到好耐
係就話人moron，唔係就話人spy
一o的manner都無
好明顯佢一定係大陸失敗教育o既受害者啦, poor guy

所以都話，大陸有咁多錢整依樣整o個樣，都唔用o的錢o黎教育下o的人民，真係失禮街坊 ...
嘉嘉發表於 2009-9-24 09:59

I guess you got it incorrectly. Does it mean anyone who disagree with you is from mainland China?

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-9-24 11:40

I guess you got it incorrectly. Does it mean anyone who disagree with you is from mainland China?
peter236 發表於 2009-9-24 12:36

Please re-read her post. She did not agree nor disagree with you on any of your point. She is just saying that it's impolite to call people "moron". She only assumed you are from mainland China because you keep on calling people "moron".

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 11:49

Please re-read her post. She did not agree nor disagree with you on any of your point. She is just saying that it's impolite to call people "moron". She only assumed you are from mainland China b ...
myversa 發表於 2009-9-24 12:40

That is why she is incorrect. She claimed that I am from mainland China based on a wrong assumption and a misinformed impression of China.
BTW, people like Lik or Moi are far from polite.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2009-9-24 11:52

之但係我的確係呢個論壇既爛仔黎喎~

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-9-24 12:29

面對住斯文人我會禮數周全，同啲蠻不講理嘅人我絕對唔介意扯到盡咁去串佢同打爛仔交。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 13:03

面對住斯文人我會禮數周全，同啲蠻不講理嘅人我絕對唔介意扯到盡咁去串佢同打爛仔交。

-力
Lik 發表於 2009-9-24 13:29

hahaha, how come you make excuses to be rude? You yourself have no manners at all. Every time I rebuked your false claims with facts, you just ignored them. Again and again you got embarrassed.

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2009-9-24 22:32

That is why she is incorrect. She claimed that I am from mainland China based on a wrong assumption and a misinformed impression of China.
BTW, people like Lik or Moi are far from polite.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-24 12:49

你真係無論中文定英文o既理解能力都有問題喎.....

請問我邊一句句子話過你係大陸o黎？
唔該一隻一隻字睇清楚，唔好懶醒叻唔切make any assumption, please

Lik and Moi are far more understandable than you because they did not begin by calling people moron

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2009-9-24 22:35

hahaha, how come you make excuses to be rude? You yourself have no manners at all. Every time I rebuked your false claims with facts, you just ignored them. Again and again you got embarrassed.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-24 14:03

is there anything wrong with ignoring your posts?
people just want to avoid wasting time with you

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-9-24 22:55

ignoring posts does not mean he/she does not have manners but calling people moron or other similar stuff is. You are the one really twist the fact here.

For two people debating, of course they can pick whatever support their believes. Personally I think Lik is a good debater.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 23:22

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-25 00:31 編輯

ignoring posts does not mean he/she does not have manners but calling people moron or other similar stuff is. You are the one really twist the fact here.

For two people debating, of course they can ...
myversa 發表於 2009-9-24 23:55

I didn't say he ignored the posts. I didn't say ignoring posts means not having manners. Why are you twisting what I said here?

When Lik makes his false claims, I then rebuked him with facts. Very often he just pretends he didn't see my points and then he would repeat his points again in the reply. That is his way of evasion.
Of course, Lik is rude too, as he admitted himself another post.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 23:27

is there anything wrong with ignoring your posts?
people just want to avoid wasting time with you
嘉嘉發表於 2009-9-24 23:35

I didn't say he ignored my posts. Lik would reply to my posts, but then he ignored my arguments when I rebuked him. This is his way of evasion. Please upgrade your reading ability.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 23:29

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-25 00:32 編輯

你真係無論中文定英文o既理解能力都有問題喎.....

請問我邊一句句子話過你係大陸o黎？
唔該一隻一隻字睇清楚，唔好懶醒叻唔切make any assumption, please

嘉嘉發表於 2009-9-24 23:32

Oh you said "好明顯佢一定係大陸失敗教育o既受害者啦". Okay if I misinterpreted you then myversa also misinterpret you.

Maybe you yourself is a victim of failure of the Canadian education system.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-24 23:34

Highspeed rail in Tianjing

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-9-25 06:58

N E X T !!!

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-9-25 09:19

When Lik makes his false claims, I then rebuked him with facts. Very often he just pretends he didn't see my points and then he would repeat his points again in the reply. That is his way of evasion.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-24 23:22

笑咗～

對啲五毛仔來講，阿爺講嘅說話咪係金科玉律囉。你可以繼續叫呢啲做 fact，但我只會當佢地係狗屁不如嘅廢話。

好多時其他網友已經道破咗你啲廢話，咁我又使乜再講咁多？

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-25 09:31

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-25 10:44 編輯

笑咗～

對啲五毛仔來講，阿爺講嘅說話咪係金科玉律囉。你可以繼續叫呢啲做 fact，但我只會當佢地係狗屁不如嘅廢話。

好多時其他網友已經道破咗你啲廢話，咁我又使乜再講咁多？

-力 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-9-25 10:19

wahahaha, another baseless claim from you. All these facts are not from your so-called 阿爺. These are publicly available information. You claim that highspeed railway are not needed but in fact the demand is very high in China, Europe and Japan. The railway stations in China are crowded. Of course you don't know since you have never been to China.

You claimed that North America does not need highpeed railway, but President Obama and the Americans are doing some planning. You claimed that maglev in China is not useful when you have never been to China, and also the Japanese are planning their Chuo shinkansen as a maglev line.

I am just posting photos in this thread, if you don't like it, you need not reply.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-9-25 09:52

It never fails to amaze me how hard 50 cents idiots try to distort the facts, even when they are in plain sight:

It is pointless to compare methods of travel between North America and China. With its sparse population density and vast expanses of land, it is illogical for many places in NA to invest in mass transit infrastructure in the same way China does. In China where the population density is high, however, trains as a form of mass transit make a lot of sense.

The problem is, I can't help but wonder whether a lot of these are simply 面子工程 or not. The Maglev train in Shanghai is a prime example of 面子工程 because the track spans a mere 30km and has been a complete commercial failure. People rarely use it, so the train is operating nowhere close to its carrying capacity. And while it can reach over 500km/h, the track is so short that the moment it approaches its maximum speeds, it really had to start decelerating again.

China has indeed been expanding its mass transit systems (train) for the past few years, and in the wake of the global recession, the government has accelerated a lot of the projects to both re-employ hundreds of thousands of laid off workers and stabilize the economy. By and large, those are some very good deeds, but the 面子工程 aspect of the construction cannot be ignored. Unfortunately, the only thing ignorant idiots know and go around boasting about are those very same 面子工程...
Lik 發表於 2009-9-22 09:51

Remember the time when you said I supported the HST, and how I quote my complain letter to Gordie and Hansen?

So who is the idiot here?

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-25 10:05

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-25 11:11 編輯

It never fails to amaze me how hard 50 cents idiots try to distort the facts, even when they are in plain sight:

Remember the time when you said I supported the HST, and how I quote my complain lett ...
Lik 發表於 2009-9-25 10:52

Of course you are the idiot here. I can't believe you reposted your previous post in which you clearly said the "面子工程 aspect cannot be ignored". Clearly, these highpseed railway are necessary for the hundreds of millions of people in China, so there is no such thing as "面子工程 aspect".

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-9-25 10:08

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-25 11:10 編輯

It never fails to amaze me how hard 50 cents idiots try to distort the facts, even when they are in plain sight:

Remember the time when you said I supported the HST, and how I quote my complain lett ...
Lik 發表於 2009-9-25 10:52

作者: zoids 時間: 2009-9-25 23:32

Hahaha, you mad.

you all mad.

LOL.

/me go grab some popcorn.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-10-1 02:15

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-10-1 03:20 編輯

Beijing south station

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-11-26 21:25

Hong Kong highspeed railway development.

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作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-3 06:34

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-12-3 07:37 編輯

Hong Kong highspeed railway development.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-13 21:45

海峡两岸京台铁路 Beijing-Taipei Railway 前期工程启动 Stage I Began

[youtube]i5-lWqaC3zk[/youtube]

[youtube]OScgG1Cqt5w[/youtube]

作者: kmb3asv141 時間: 2009-12-14 20:33

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[视频]武广高铁今起试运行跑出世界铁路最高速
http://news.cctv.com/china/20091209/104346.shtml

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-5 01:04

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-1-5 02:12 編輯

Total:1068km, Wuhan-Guangzhou(350km/h)

Yueyang Railway Station(CRH) 新岳阳站

Miluo Railway Station(CRH) 新汨罗站

Changsha Railway Station(CRH) 新长沙站/长沙南站

Zhuzhou Railway Station(CRH) 新株洲站/株洲西站

Hengshan Railway Station(CRH) 新衡山站

Hengyang Railway Station(CRH) 新衡阳站/衡阳东站

Chenzhou Railway Station(CRH) 新郴州站

Leiyang Railway Staion(CRH) 新耒阳站

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-5 01:06

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Wuhan Railway Station(CRH) 武汉站

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-5 03:05

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Xianning Railway Station(CRH) 咸宁站

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-5 03:10

Yueyang Railway Station(CRH) 岳阳站

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-12 01:18

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Changsha Rail Station(CRH) 长沙站/长沙南站

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-12 01:21

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Zhuzhou Railway Station(Zhuzhou West Railway Station)

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-12 01:25

Hengyang East Railway Station(CRH) 衡阳东站

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-1-13 21:25

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事件發生經過: 大陸阿嬸同一班人在欣澳地鐵站(去完廸士尼)上東涌線向九龍, 大陸阿嬸坐在我右方, 同行一班人坐在我左手邊, 全部都在講普通話, 以上影片發生在過完青馬橋路程

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作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-1-14 01:55

反對極權資本主義！

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-30 02:18

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Qingyuan Railway Station 清远站

作者: kipposhi 時間: 2010-1-30 12:06

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-2-4 01:31

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Wuhan Railway Station, 武汉站

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-2-4 01:42

作者: chobit 時間: 2010-2-4 17:50

Personally, I think this is amazing! And I am so looking forward..! I love driving. .but not driving in the traffic..! I took the Canada line quite a few times when I pay my visit in Vancouver, and I think that awesome other than the fact that the lag carpool lot..!!

I would really wish such high speed train is avaible to connect west to east in the US, and north to south including Seattle to Vancouver...! Think about you guys can just drop by a station, then come to Seattle at 300km/h, or to the outlet..! It's gonna be much better than wasting 2/3 hrs at the border during long weekend...! and think about how much polution coming from those cars.. sitting not doing anything hours and hours at the border...!

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