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其實d人成日問:
1. 駛唔駛warm車架? warm, 又要warm幾耐呢?
2. 入87定89/91/94好呀? 91/94好貴喎, 廠都話唔駛~~~
3. 幾耐換一次油好呢? synthetic聽人講可以用耐d/舊車用左會漏油
4. 係唔係真係要整/換架?唔整/唔換得唔得?
5. etc etc

其實今時今日所生產既汽車已經達到一定既水平, 唔warm其實架車係真係行得, 不過當中試問有幾位覺得架車唔到warm左 (水溫錶指住一半)之前架車其實行得好rough? 尤其係開車果3幾分鐘? 我知有d渣開新車既人或者會講"冇分別", 果d只不過係新d既車d野仲係緊d所以分別細d? 又或者好似我一d朋友講 "我不嬲都唔知架車唔順, 都feel唔到架車有問題", 問題可能係同出一轍?

其實要點做上個網search一下一百幾十個答案都有, 點解會仲問呢? 因為好多人講既都唔同, 想睇下比較之下更多既人係點做? 咁萬一做左之後架車都係成日壞呢?

又試問大家有邊幾位會渣一架車十幾廿年, 廿幾三十萬公里都唔賣? 小弟就真係有幸可以睇住d人點樣去到四十幾五十萬, 保養得好既同保養得唔好既又係唔係真係可以差好遠? 有人會諗, 四十幾萬既車仲行唔行得架? 我只可以講, 五萬公里差到貼地既我都見過, 係架車既問題定係車主既問題, 老實講, 車問題多多少少一定有, 至於幾大鑊/有幾差就真係視乎車主喇...

試問有幾多人渣開一d保養得宜既舊車又會覺得新車好渣呢? 我不幸今年四月比人飲醉酒撞, 架車total loss左. 半年時間我先終於搵到一架合心水既舊車, 原來都諗住出架新車 (其實我冇特別去搵, 有朋友早前回流問我要唔要佢架車, 只可惜因為前車主保養得唔好佢買番黎都執左幾樣野, 到我睇既時侯我連offer都費時比佢, 誰知個新車主買左唔夠兩個月就又有問題, 試問買到架咁既車 ~ 又或者自己擁有一架咁既車, 又會唔會攪到你成日想換車呢?

早前返港得知一個朋友既朋友賣車, 我心諗:"佢保養個外表保養得咁好, 都唔知副engine點既", 好話唔好聽: "金玉其外, 敗絮其中"既好多, 盡管同佢出黎傾兩句睇下點啦; 誰知一傾簡直係搵到個知音人, 似乎佢都keep得架車唔錯, 返黎一驗便知係龍係鳳! 點知一驗, 識我既人都預左我一定買, 係價錢問題!

視問一架六年半先得三萬二千公里既車, 除左每星期洗車(就算冇渣過), 每月打蠟, 每半年換油, 每兩年全換油! 一架咁低里數既車自然無論係compression test, leakdown test, 都係我整過之中reading係最好既! 當然, 其他一d例如warm車呀, 入94呀, 之類既野都係原因之一?!

就好似之前我幫個老友記睇過架車一樣: 03車行左64400公里, 換左油行左400公里左右, d油係可以黑過一架同年同款不過行左112700km, d油仲要換左行左成4700km (車主返左香港佢細佬冇準時4000公里幫佢換油) ~ 其實新車到十萬佢都係5000 (原廠叫8000, 而另外果架就係8000), 係十萬左右d油比以前污衊d所以4000換, 換幾次! 好多時候對比之下一架保養得好既車無論係做compression test / leakdown test都唔驚啦!

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23# puZZle


you are welcome...

其實一架車如果保養得好, 要賣都容易d...

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myversa: 想問下, 渣左十五年不過幾多公里? 保養得好既話好似琴日一架92年既車, 186000km, 真係新車一樣, 比起好多2000年既車可能仲要新!

其實年份係其次, 一位朋友有架1991年civic, 460,000km, 左除左小小生鏽外架車咁多年黎都好似未拖過車 (最多好似一至兩次)...真係冇野壞!

咁多年黎好多人問佢, 架車都唔值錢做咩要放咁多錢去保養佢, 不過對於佢黎講點都平過買過架?

CP: 1-2 min is not enough for turbo car, not even enough for a NA car wor...

(same as car manufactory, they dont want you to keep a car fo so long, which is actually bad for Enviroment)

完全同意呀!!! give me five!!!

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myversa: what do you have before?

honestly, i have many friends doing their own oil change too. but when a car gets older and older, it needs more and more attention. I have had friends who used to bring me their cars only every 2 years or 25k to do all the fluid and they will take care their own oil and filter change / tire rotation...

example: friend's in-laws has a 05 corolla, he takes care of it for them till 80k and knows that the car is seriously in needed for a tune up; after we got all the rest of the stuff done it makes a dramatic diff and now his in-law knows, even a new car with only about 80k, not only oil change is needed

i am sure if you take care of your car better, it could have lasted much longer and you might not need a new car soooo soon, but just keep in mind, take good care of this one now!

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33# shutterbug


this is what i did:

transmission fluid (was very dirty)
brake fluid (very dirty)
coolant
power steering fluid (customer requested)
clean and adjusted rear brakes
air filter
pollen filter
drive belt
spark plugs

i know it's not much, but more than you think; more significantly is the car is soooo much smoother afterwards

and i dunno what you meant by maintenance free, that can be pretty mis-leading, like those car manufacturers...i have seen someone who bought a Malibu, was advestised it doesn't need its first tune up until 160k...turned out he toasted his engine at 25k without not even one oil change...

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to be honest taking it back to the dealership is not necessary as it depends on the mechanic himself, not the dealership / general shop etc...

i am sure there are some good places out there, you might have to try them before you know if they are any good (same thing for dealer, I could easily tell you if they do a great job or if they did a ****ty one)?!

the most important thing is to know your ride better then you can probably make it last much longer

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37# shutterbug

冇錯而家d coolant話就話係long life, 不過如果你八萬公里都冇換過就會好似我個朋友咁, 想claim個warranty又要搵呢個果個黎睇下係唔係真係會cover, 又話dealership好去decline 佢, 一睇就知佢保養得唔好啦...

係, 八萬公里有問題係唔常見, 咁冇耐就會過左保養期, 到最好塞水箱之類既問題唔知會唔會貴過換水箱水呢?

軑油係個朋友叫換既, 咪換囉 (不過都真係幾污衊)

火咀, 好多人都會覺得架車涷車易著左, 又會慳油d ~ 好似我個朋友咁, 平均一架corolla都渣到50 to 60km一tank, not bad; 最重要都係架車順左...

brake油, 係應該每兩年(或我會每兩萬五)換一次, 等得整brake黎都最少四萬幾公里, 如果好似我有個朋友咁, 八萬幾先第一次整brake咁咪四/五年都唔駛換?

pollen filter去會令driveability 好d既, 試問如果個司機成日都吸入一d唔乾淨既空氣:



老實講, 個司機都好重要架!

現今既車可以調較既野係唔多, 所以一架保養得唔好既車往往都會百病纏身, 得閒又有check engine light, 再唔係又漏油又漏水, 總之三兩萬已經可以見到小分別, 十萬八萬已經會幾明顯架喇 (不過, 架車好多時候都仲渣得, 睇下幾時死d咩咁?!

好似別一個老友記講, 你保養得咁好將來邊有人買新車? 邊到有人會講"祝我既下一手車主好運"?

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disagree, a friend just blew up his radiator last week when it's minus, coolant has never been changed by just over 100k and he was lucky to have noticed the temp goes up even on a freezing day, as soon as he stopped he saw smoke coming out from the engine bay...radiator is cracked...same for another friend who has bought an used car and cheap out from doing coolant flush, both thought they have to do timing belt soon "yet they still dun have it done yet because the radiator replacement has costed them extra in their budget and xmas is coming up, blah blah blah"...

yeah maybe car nowadays always come with bad quality rad in the first place, and it's designed can't really take overheating; if the coolant has never been change, how can it be wrong (i know, some time body shop uses the wrong type of coolant etc, have seen that many times)? radiator looks fine when it's taken out (no sign of overheated) or any sort of impact...

So you didn't notice any diff in cranking or gas mileage when replacing by 160k? I dunno how you mean by plugs that came out still look fine, did you measure the gap? maybe you should keep using them then...

have done cars that didn't have their plugs replaced regularly and overheated the ignition coil; of course, if the 160k you have has quite a bit of hwy mileage, then it will be better than a lot of ppl with mostly city stop and go driving; have you looked thru the spark plug holes and see how much carbon gets built up on the piston? Showed my friend the other day, replacing his plugs at 153k (we thinks it's the possibly the first time, used car), lots of carbon gets build up on the piston and I have told him to keep it up better otherwise it will be a nightmare later; he noticed easily cranking up and better gas mileage too?! what type of plugs did you put in? also he has used some Motul fuel system cleaner after all the service was done and again, car feels significantly better...

it's always your choice for doing pollen filter or not, there are always thing that you don't have to do, like my friend's yaris at 53k i can pull over 10 clicks on his e-brake and even tho with 90% front pad the stopping distance on that car is just bad! after a simple clean and adjust on the rear brake again it makes a huge diff too, who says rear brake has to adjust "regularly" (only when it needs to, just like this case, so worse!)....

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41# fibbi

depends on make and which dealer he goes to, some time the coolant has never been flushed, such like a friend's mazda 3 and he tried to get warranty, a pain in the a$$...

lots of the time it could be saved by simply doing a coolant flush (besides it boils or frozen that can cause radiator blowing up, deposit in the cooling system can clog the radiator too)

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43# fibbi

well 1992 325i, 12 years (so 2004?) and only 80k, there is a big chance coolant hasn't been flushed for awhile and some cheap shop / dealership use regular water to top it up thru out the years, that brings the freezing point lower and lower...

I know a lot of shop, especially body shop, will just use regular green coolant into almost any type of cars, even toyota / vw / audi / bmw / mini / volvo etc that needs specified coolant:

1. that's probably all they stock
2. not that they care nor educated for, coolant is coolant, they think they are all the same
3. as long as your car runs fine upon delivery, good luck claiming them later...

十二年車咩都可能發生, 可能中間攞過去一d唔負責任既body shop, 可能dealer冇叫你個ex換, 可能dealer叫左你個ex換不過佢果次唔想等所以冇換之後亦都冇左件事...太多可能性喇, 不過有時候如果有人長氣d提醒一d人, 咁可能可以減少到一d不必要既damage...

CP: 盡可能就唔好加水, 方便係好不過舊年我地呢到我就知有一間dealer有一批新車係落大雪果排班新車主個個爆washer fluid既野, hose / tank / pump etc cuz they iced up...