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it was a fun day, too bad i think we overheated derek's tires and couldn't get any faster...plus he can use a better setup too...

henry's car ain't oversteer a lot, it's understeering and i made it to oversteer with throttle control, made the good use of the rear sway bar ar ma....even with dunno what tire pressure, dunno what alignment (just know it needs one), and 1st time auto-x a car with stock suspension...his car was actually quite impressive (needs sth that he can pick up the rpm faster, ie better throttle response)...
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本帖最後由 字典仔 於 2009-5-25 11:28 編輯
"made it to oversteer with throttle control" how? when to use oversteer to your advantage?

"dunno what alignment (just know it needs one)" how to find out?

"his car was actually quite impressive",  in what way?

"needs sth that he can pick up the rpm faster", Underdrive Pulley!!??

"better throttle response", drive by wire electronic system, can't do much...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009/5/25 10:13


when you are coming into a corner kinda hot, your car will start under-steering then if you lift the throttle (depends on setup, some can only lift partially some u have to lift it all plus might even need to trail brake) to make the rear kicks out.

get ur alignment done then you will know how bad it was and what can be improved

like what i told you yesterday, first one and i got it 2 sec slower than derek's car with additional mod, i think derek's car can do better if we get chance to cool down the tire; and we have gone thru what he might have to "adjust" for his setup...as for yours, like i said, better tires, proper alignment, decent suspension will turn your car into a diff world, when one doesn't have to slow down that much around the corner, it helps the car to pick up in straight...

honda's crank pulley is harmonic balancer, i won't recommend aftermarket's...

better air filter and maybe something additional for rpm to go up faster (AT can't really benefits from intake system), high flow cat with smaller or no resonator or even decent cat back exhaust...

jackie's fit is also drive by wire, but with his setup i dun feel the "sluggish"...if he practices more i am sure he can do better...just see how his FiT can get so close to my time in derek's SiR...it's supposed to have a much smaller engine, less power, not as good suspension geometry, similar performance summer tires (even tho derek's is much newer) etc...maybe he is now doing even better than i do, my driving is going backwards lol...but after some pointers derek and jackie both got relatively decent result thru out the day and i am sure with some more practice they will soon go pass what i can do and have fun with those senior drivers...

like derek says, i think my skill gets rusty after no auto-x events for 5 years and no track days for 2 years+...one gotta know his own car better than anyone else ~ like Manesa can do so much better than Barry in her miata for a reason
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haha ACC, if 字典仔 and you drove the same car and the time came out the same....who would be uglier?
Don't think like that la... as newbies got lots to learn. That's call "room for improvement". ...
布小熊 發表於 2009/5/25 17:04


honestly, i think i get rusty after so many years and my brain doesn't progress as fast as i want; practice helps to make perfect, no one born to be a perfect individual. I still wanna try out the echo and see how well it does in SM, but at least we see no formula yesterday; years ago when i had my civic in SM, i was only competiting with formula that's why i haven't been there for soooo long...

but if Henry's TSX can get 47.316 second for my first run and I only got 45.829 for my first one on derek's, that's only 1.5 second diff between a DSP and a ST car that i am new to both!? even tho i shaved off another 1.6 second for my 2nd run on derek's, i bet it will be only be a 2 to 2.5 second diff between a stock car and a light mod car...with some work (like i said, u need tires + alignment regardless), i am sure the diff will only be within 2 second that's why i am thinking if my friend really wants to trade for mine then i might as well get a ST ready ride (now it's stiff to make that 6 second to catch up with james!)

i think u just need some pointers, derek improved a lot thru out the day, and the most important part for auto-x is to have clean runs before u start taking any risk to hit any cones!
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IF i can make my echo more quiet or IF i can jump into someone's car again
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ACC-HE: the type of muffler can't add silencer, and i am already running two resonators (one ultra quiet resonator) and a high flow cat...

yoshi86: just found out Megan actually makes the type of muffler i want, just dunno if MFRT or Revspot has it in stock...

spoonek4: we need R compounds to co-drive....
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but i dun like their course and their setup, not as pro as VCMC and even worse than UBCSCC years ago (yet now i heard UBCSCC improved)...

12 runs, and without much competition, can still compete with oneself gei....
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VCMC Series #1 - June 21st
http://www.vcmc.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=64815#post64815

Who's going??
ACC-HE 發表於 2009/6/4 13:50


i am in!


good to have lots of events, but there are too many clubs
too many membership fee....  and hard to keep check....
yoshi86 發表於 2009/6/6 18:02


that's why i only go to VCMC's, might consider UBCSCC's, but not BCMA's lor
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唔知, 到時先算, 試下架echo過唔過db test先, 再唔係咪jackie / derek果架
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maybe we should just get new rims for re-using either the 048 or the 032...
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有冇course map?! 今時唔同往日喇...
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