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原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-2-2 11:55 發表

May I say, you don't quite understand what I was saying too? (hehe....)
I was not comparing the technical issue between film and digital cameras la. I was saying the "feeling" and stuff like that mah ...

Well...., I can't denial the feeling of shooting films can be so awesome, the part where you don't get to see what you have shot until hours or days later, make you so looking forward to the results.  But then again, for a beginner, digital is the way to go, and I am sure they can learn as well, if not better than shooting films.  There are more Pro with digital than Con if given the person already know some computers stuffs..!

PS:  I suppose 1 of the feeling people have toward driving stick over AT, is the extra degree of control you can have over the car  (what about u?)  Well, I don't see how film cameras has such benefit over digital.  I can see that any SLR/DSLR has such benefit over point & shoots.  You do see my posts about how I usually not recommend p&s or advance p&s over SLR/DSLR for serious learners.

CB

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Oh yeah..no kidding..!  My 1DsM2 冰山一角 when comparing to how much more I have spent on my other camera stuffs..!  Sad.., but true.. =(

原帖由 AmericanBeauty 於 2008-2-2 08:50 發表
Even thought digital photographer does not require film, other equipment can still be expensive. >_<  All the lights and lesns I have add up to a lot of money!  Light stands, reflectors, power pack, g ...

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Don't get me wrong.  Like I said, I am not trying to get into the digital vs film war.  I am looking at this in a small area.  Photography for beginner, who has little experience with SLR.  Then DSLR seems to have more beneifit over film at this time.

If we are starting to look into other area of photography such as B&W, Slides or darkroom, then there will be much more to look at as well.

Here are what some photographers think years ago about the changes

Go medium of large format, 35mm is a joke

Auto Focus cameras are for amateur photographers, but not for the pro/experience photographers

Spot meter is a must.  Flash shouldn't be use in TTL mode, but Manual

If you think about it, many of above help photographers to think more before they shoot, but it wouldn't mean we have to go back to such manual way to shoot, non does it make us less photographer than the past..!

Photography is an art which has been evolve quite a bit, but for us the photographer.  It's the matter of capturing what we want to some kind of media... rather it is digital form or ... other...



I honestly, I don't think there are many beginner (including those that go to school for photograph) would start out with slides or b&w slides or darkroom.  There is enough to learn on getting correct exposure, using filters, shutter/aperture effects, focal length, composition, etc..!  Then one who manage this well can start looking into doing other photography related stuffs such as IR.  Then, they can always buy a cheap SLR+some IR film.

While I wouldn't say IR & B&W  

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-2-2 15:42 發表

In film photography, you can play with various of media such as color slide, b/w slide, color negative, b/w negative, IR film... and more; use various shooting skills such as multiple exposure; toget ...

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Case close haha =D

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-2-2 19:31 發表

Hey, I think actually we agree in some points.
And what you said this time is truly correct! Which is the point I keep pointing out..... all those "inconvenience" in film photography is exactly the  ...

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I can't agree about DSLR is only for the old school SLR photographer..!  Digital p&s has it's place, but not comparable to dSLR.

Optical viewfinder is so much better
Auto focus is fast with the right lens
Tracking subject with fast auto focus with action shots
Far better optic (lens)
small sensor = too much depth of field

CB

原帖由 maanmo 於 2008-2-2 17:21 發表
i remember looking at the vancouver community college photography course calender about 2 years ago
most of their courses are on film technolgoy

however , we are going through a revolution in photog ...