rockypath

For me, the bottom line is whether there is a creation and whether there is a God (whoever He/She might be). My choice is there is creation and there is a God.  

The next step is to find which religion will give you (or me) the answer who is the creator (God).  

And this book -- 《宗教與現代人生》, I don't think it worths my time reading it.

rockypath

Your points are well presented. Do you mind to answer my questions?

1) Do you believe in creation? Why do you believe or not believe?
2) Do you accept there is God? Why do you accept or not accept?

I totally undersand religions have been and continue to be munipulated or used by people in powers. My questions is totally relating to personal choice only. Just want to have inputs from different people.

rockypath

I believe there are many immature Chritians arround and every single Chritian is not perfect. However, does it deny there is a God and there is a creator?

Maybe you dislike all Chritians, but it shouldn't be the reason you deny creation. It should be two seperate issues and should be dealt with seperately.

[ 本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2009-1-6 02:17 編輯 ]

rockypath

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-6 02:28 發表

How to prove the Christian God is the true and only creator? Only because of He said so?

For me, I first believe there must be a creator. Then I try to look for the creator (including Chritian God).

Believing in "No God" is also a relgion in my opinion. Poeple become the God of themselves.

rockypath

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-6 14:26 發表


against? this is more like a "stating the fact" sentence, while the fact is true or not is another issue



well, where do we know about christian god? its from certain believers

You seems to be loosing your objective mind. that is a "fact"?

rockypath

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-1-6 16:09 發表


I stated objective reasons why I see science as a much more logical way in explaining the world and form opinions and decision in my life than religion. Instead of attacking me, my mom and also my d ...

Science has never and I doubt it would ever be able to disapprove the existence of God. To prove that, scientists must elimiate all the possibilities which is impossible and not doable.

Human being invents and products automobiles, computers and other very advanced equipments. Can we believe and accept those equipments somehow came to existence by itself and by chance? The human being and the universe is much more complex that that. Can it come to existence by itself and by chance?

rockypath

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-1-6 18:40 發表


You bring up another very interesting aspect, and that is the ability to perform independant verification. Using back the somewhat offensive example. If the birth certificate is faked, I can go test ...

You should be aware that in science, independent verification is impossible in many areas. Many areas and process cannot be reproduced. Therefore, they are just theories and many scientists use generally accepted theories (many of them cannot be proved to be the facts) to explains other phenomena. For example, the “Big Bang” theory and the theory of evolution.

Both “big bang” and “evolution” are theories, not facts. Scientists are still studying them and trying to prove them till they are generally accepted or till some other theories having better explanations arise from other studies.  

I have also seen many people “blindly” believe in sciences and take those theories as facts.

rockypath

回復 383# somewhereintime

You are talking very strange here.

You used to claim yourself a faithful Christian (even though I certainly do not agree with that). Will you still claim yourself a Christina now?

I guess you have given up your Christian title.

rockypath

I would not do anything that would disgrace the God,(this apply to
any religions)
吾平生未負一人, 無愧於心...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-18 06:47

Telling this to your God if you still believe in Him.

Just show the evidence that I ever attacked you about your coffee shop in Richmond. At least that can show you did not making false statements to accuse me. That would disgrace your God if you cannot show the evidence.

rockypath

so peterxxx = rockyxxx = davidxxx = ??
why you have so much time to switch your characters? you ...
samsung 發表於 2010-9-18 20:19

Before he can making the statement that I am a “3 in 1”, he should at least be abele to provide the evidence showing he is not making false statements accusing me about his coffee shop in Richmond.

Why should people care about his false statements?